[SuicideFuel] 3rd escort visit - Numbness and inferiority complex

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It takes more than two months. People say a reboot takes three months in the very least and even moreso during an extreme version of PIED.
on average it's three but the extremities of the addiction will usuall last longer
 
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You sound extremely depressed.
 
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Yep for me it will last a lifetime.
well I'm on the extreme end myself considering I have said I done it 10 times in a day and constantly getting worse with the type of stuff I watched, but all of that just dwindled away in the span of 5 months.
 
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No, hooker sex is just sex, "mutually consensual" sex is just glorified sex
Cope. Why do you think normies would rather have consensual sex with a 4/10 than paying to fuck a 9/10? It's not because they think its expensive (they spend a lot more money on dumber shit)

Even men I know who say they would not mind paying for sex never do it.
 
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Cope. Why do you think normies would rather have consensual sex with a 4/10 than paying to fuck a 9/10? It's not because they think its expensive (they spend a lot more money on dumber shit)

Even men I know who say they would not mind paying for sex never do it.
Circular logic, most men are raised to value these concepts today, fucking whores was a shameless norm hundreds of years ago

Most men don't rape today because we are aware of the social ostracization and legal consequences of rape

You take your average guy and put him on a deserted island, with a 10/10 white blonde 16 year old female and if she rejects him, within a month he will rape her (and that's if he's an extreme moralfag, the less of a moralfag the shorter the time span)

You guys need to stop confusing modern cultural norms with biology, there is no biological urge for "mutual affection", as men we just want to touch and be inside a woman's warm soft body PERIOD (regardless of her attraction to us). Physical sexual stimulation feels good regardless of consent or not, the problem is men are raised today to detest and feel disgust with these innate urges, so its like you were rewired to hate what you are biologically inclined to do

Cope, you guys speak like this is biological but its socialized, if it was biological men wouldn't be so prone to rape, the men of the past would never have claimed wives from raiding parties or conquering other lands, they would be physically incapable of enjoying sex like OP is, but that's 100% false, a lot of marriages in the past were arranged marriages too and its mostly only the women that would have hated their pairings as men have realistic standards, so how did those men "cope" with the lack of "mutual affection"?, it must have been horrible for those men, THEY HAD IT WORSE THAN US (how hard it must have been to force yourself to fuck a woman that doesn't think you're hot, my goodness the thought is unbearable) JFL

Men today are just raised with a cucked mindset, with cultural values tailored specifically TO NEUTER MEN AS THREATS AND MAKE THEM FEEL BAD ABOUT THEIR NATURAL URGES

Its just that guys like you CHOOSE TO REMAIN MENTALLY CUCKED AND USE RHETORIC THAT ITS "MUH BIOLOGY" TO JUSTIFY IT TO YOURSELF

Your ancestors didn't give one fuck about "mutual attraction" or "affection", if nature intended something as you claim, were the men of the past just SUFFERING and forcing themselves to "resist their nature" to seek out "love"

Were they PSYCHOLOGICALLY TORMENTING THEMSELVES everytime they penetrated a woman that resisted or showed signs of disgust or discomfort?

"Gooooooolllllly, maaaaan its hard to rape all these women and force them to be my wives, ITS JUST KILLING ME ON THE INSIDE to fuck these beautiful women WITHOUT THEM WANTING ME TOO :cryfeels:"
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You guys sound like retards everytime you make the argument that men's obsession love and affection today is biological, it clearly isn't, its like you are pretending HISTORY DOES NOT EXIST

 
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Just got back from an escort.
She was nice, always smiling, she kissed me without complaining, did most of the things I was asking for.
And I still feel like shit.

I already made a thread about my first ever visit in October
Back then, I was surprised how empty most of the sexual acts felt.
They felt good physically, but not as awesome as I always expected them to be.

These things happen again and again with each visit.
Blowjobs feel okay, but I can hardly cum. It took me 45 minutes to cum just once.
I can hardly penetrate her in any position, because I cannot even find the right angle or something like this.
When I finally can, my dick goes soft, or if it doesn't, I don't enjoy the actual fucking. Neither physically, nor emotionally. Neither does she of course, but at least she's pretending.
The whole thing just feels so unnatural.
The only thing that I can say I enjoy is kissing and boob sucking.

That's ridiculous.
I cannot even fuck properly.
And when I think about how 15 year old chads, chadlites or normies fuck females without experiencing any of these hardships, I feel extremely inferior and worthless.

I always believed (and heard from others) that fucking an escort would be very advantegous, because it relieves you of the emotional stress of virginity, and it gives you the confidence to talk to women and all that shit. It didn't help in that regard either. In terms of communication and social skills, I'm just as bad as I used to be.

I'm not regretting that I started escortcelling, but the truth is that I was somewhat happier when I was still a complete virgin and could fantasize about fucking without realizing that in reality, I cannot properly fuck a female.
Because fucking takes skills (physical and mental), and I don't even have those skills.
I will probably be tempted to escortcel soon again, but I already know that my next experience will be far from successful again.

I know that this thread is a little bit incoherent, but this is how I could gather my thoughts.
brother A 100% this.. Are you me?
 
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well I'm on the extreme end myself considering I have said I done it 10 times in a day and constantly getting worse with the type of stuff I watched, but all of that just dwindled away in the span of 5 months.
So does that mean you have been really able to get rid of it in five months time only? How did you do it? Did you watch porn too during, or on accident when somebody posted something?
 
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So does that mean you have been really able to get rid of it in five months time only? How did you do it? Did you watch porn too during, or on accident when somebody posted something?
Just placed a routine where I specifically had to meditate and watch some motivational video (this was when I didnt know about incels properly and such but knew about some blackpill stuff but kept myself to bluepill ideas most of the time), there were days I didn't end up doing it but I just went through it. It was a pain to do it however, as I had numerous situations of intense emotions and the like but I still kept moving forward.

I didn't watch the stuff either because it was either not watching it entirely or quit doing the whole thing but there were videos that were accidental which popped up most of the time, but I still didn't end up doing it.

However, during this time I stopped playing vidya and watching anime but now I realised that the issue wasn't porn, vidya nor anime but me as a whole and showing that I was actually the type of person to use anything as a cope (I ended up binging on motivational films instead during the time which lead to full on movie binge). I pretty much knew that I had to learn self control and maintenance of interests and desires otherwise, I would pretty much be consumed by them again.

So now I could say I feel better (still addicted to porno but trying to simmer it down and ending up letting semen cycles occur or just getting escorts but only based on my own free will instead of some nudge) because I don't play games and pull all nighters like I did during school days nor do I eat a lot of junk food. I pretty much just have time to do both the stuff that helps my self (exercise, education, meditation) and stuff that are of interests (escorts, vidya, anime, chess, books)
 
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You sound extremely depressed.
I may sound so, but I've had way worse days than yesterday.
Plus it was a learning experience, as many others said in this thread, I need to decrease (or eliminate) my fapping routine and let go of my idealistic fantasies of sex.
 
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I may sound so, but I've had way worse days than yesterday.
Plus it was a learning experience, as many others said in this thread, I need to decrease (or eliminate) my fapping routine and let go of my idealistic fantasies of sex.
I believe it was an amazing mind blowing experince for Chad or Tyrone to lose their virginity at a young age, fucking many girls who wanted them, etc...

But we are not Chadrones... all we can have is shitty sex with someone who is disgusted by us. And to be fair, that is so shitty compared to the real thing that I question whether escortcelling is even worth it.

I absolutely despise being judged negatively by people, since I was a child... I would love to be able to fuck a cheap sexdoll... but they are expensive as fuck.
 
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Just placed a routine where I specifically had to meditate and watch some motivational video (this was when I didnt know about incels properly and such but knew about some blackpill stuff but kept myself to bluepill ideas most of the time), there were days I didn't end up doing it but I just went through it. It was a pain to do it however, as I had numerous situations of intense emotions and the like but I still kept moving forward.

I didn't watch the stuff either because it was either not watching it entirely or quit doing the whole thing but there were videos that were accidental which popped up most of the time, but I still didn't end up doing it.

However, during this time I stopped playing vidya and watching anime but now I realised that the issue wasn't porn, vidya nor anime but me as a whole and showing that I was actually the type of person to use anything as a cope (I ended up binging on motivational films instead during the time which lead to full on movie binge). I pretty much knew that I had to learn self control and maintenance of interests and desires otherwise, I would pretty much be consumed by them again.

So now I could say I feel better (still addicted to porno but trying to simmer it down and ending up letting semen cycles occur or just getting escorts but only based on my own free will instead of some nudge) because I don't play games and pull all nighters like I did during school days nor do I eat a lot of junk food. I pretty much just have time to do both the stuff that helps my self (exercise, education, meditation) and stuff that are of interests (escorts, vidya, anime, chess, books)
I see, so during those five months, you essentially swallowed the blackpill? This was before you found out about it. Makes sense, you started it as a form of self-improvement but also deluding yourself like thinking women would be attracted to you; realized they didn't, ended up swallowing the blackpill but kept the streak going on? Also, so you did watch some porn from time to time, just not as much as you normally would have done, say, instead of half an hour, you'd maybe watch it for five minutes whenever you wanted to or felt the need to? In my humble opinion, I think it's only the porn that's actively harming me, not the movies I watch or the music I listen to. Sounds like you're trying to better yourself now, which is good. I have been cutting severely on unhealthy food, a few months ago I would eat a lot, at least two bag of chips a day, couple of rolls, dinner, more candy, etc. Then nearly two months ago, I started cutting and I ended up losing 10kg in a month, now I am below 60kg and trying to maintain it. I do have cheat days but I manage not to stay down that path. For instance, I ate a lot of things yesterday, tons of ice cream, ice, more sweet stuff, french fries, lots of chicken, then rice with chicken, drank a ton of soda. But today I only ate two scopes of coconut ice cream and I had brown rice with goat meat. Not too much or anything. I also go out on daily walks so that I can eat more that way since I end up losing around 500 or 600 calories during a walk, which takes me a little bit over 2 hours.
 
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I see, so during those five months, you essentially swallowed the blackpill? This was before you found out about it. Makes sense, you started it as a form of self-improvement but also deluding yourself like thinking women would be attracted to you; realized they didn't, ended up swallowing the blackpill but kept the streak going on? Also, so you did watch some porn from time to time, just not as much as you normally would have done, say, instead of half an hour, you'd maybe watch it for five minutes whenever you wanted to or felt the need to? In my humble opinion, I think it's only the porn that's actively harming me, not the movies I watch or the music I listen to. Sounds like you're trying to better yourself now, which is good. I have been cutting severely on unhealthy food, a few months ago I would eat a lot, at least two bag of chips a day, couple of rolls, dinner, more candy, etc. Then nearly two months ago, I started cutting and I ended up losing 10kg in a month, now I am below 60kg and trying to maintain it. I do have cheat days but I manage not to stay down that path. For instance, I ate a lot of things yesterday, tons of ice cream, ice, more sweet stuff, french fries, lots of chicken, then rice with chicken, drank a ton of soda. But today I only ate two scopes of coconut ice cream and I had brown rice with goat meat. Not too much or anything. I also go out on daily walks so that I can eat more that way since I end up losing around 500 or 600 calories during a walk, which takes me a little bit over 2 hours.
The blackpill was swallowed two years ago, after realising I was lied to by this whore that was tricking me into thinking that she was into me, the 5 month streak was in 2017 though I started nofap in 2015, and yes pretty much since there was other benefits from nofap that actually made me realise I was missing out, one being the clear mind I had because I was completely fried by excessive porn consumption. It usually ends up being based on the user on how they can control, for example, american indians are known to be prone to being alcoholics, mainly due to some genetic aspect towards it, whilst others can control alcohol pretty well, so it makes sense why those who quit their addictive habits end up abstaining from them in total.

Also well done on maintaining your diet :feelsokman:
 
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No, hooker sex is just sex, "mutually consensual" sex is just glorified sex
There is a big difference between sex that is done to satisfy both participants compared to sex that ends when the client is satisfied. I think that if I ever have real sex, the most exciting thing is the prospect that the woman could get satisfaction, enjoyment and orgasm(s) FROM ME/BECAUSE OF ME. I would be more interested what she feels compared to what I feel. I want to be loved.
OP, just fast forward for a moment and imagine you are 50 years old.
You have "fucked" hundreds of whores and spend a little fortune while doing it.
You will feel even worse, because every single time you visited the bitch you hoped that this time it would the marvelous sex you've always wanted.
But it only was average, sometimes just plain bad.
Every time you return to your room you are still lonely and incel as fuck.

but besides feeling like shit, you also lost a considerable amount of money.
Imagine all the copes you could buy with that money?
Or even traveling to SEA? Or maybe even plastic surgery?

But no, the only person who actually got better of this ordeal is the whore. She now rides a fancy car and lives in a penthouse.
And she got it thanks to you and probably hundreds of other delusional males.
Been there done that, and I've come to the conclusion that it was a pretty bad deal for me.
So despite your signature, you have fucked lots of prostitutes? And given them lots of money? I agree with you. But that is easy to say after those experiences. Would you say to me to never hire a prostitute?
 
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So despite your signature, you have fucked lots of prostitutes? And given them lots of money? I agree with you. But that is easy to say after those experiences. Would you say to me to never hire a prostitute?
Pretty ironic tbh, why would anyone who supposedly hates something keep doing it over and over?
 
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Pretty ironic tbh, why would anyone who supposedly hates something keep doing it over and over?
No, after he made the realisation he stopped doing it completely.
 
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the most exciting thing is the prospect that the woman could get satisfaction, enjoyment and orgasm(s) FROM ME/BECAUSE OF ME.
You can do that with a whore too, she won't like it though JFL

Do you really think orgasms only happen if a woman is attracted to you, female sexuality is complicated, that's exactly why a lot of women statistically have a rape fetishes (look it up)

Feelings like disgust, fear, discomfort, along with sexual stimulation can make a woman orgasm, so you can in fact make a whore orgasm unless she's pushing your hand away or trying to push you off her when she's getting close, in that case I'd request you just force yourself on her lol (fuck that shit, I paid to fuck)

Would you say to me to never hire a prostitute?
I would never tell anybody that
 
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You can do that with a whore too, she won't like it though JFL

Do you really think orgasms only happen if a woman is attracted to you, female sexuality is complicated, that's exactly why a lot of women statistically have a rape fetishes (look it up)

Feelings like disgust, fear, discomfort, along with sexual stimulation can make a woman orgasm, so you can in fact make a whore orgasm unless she's pushing your hand away or trying to push you off her when she's getting close, in that case I'd request you just force yourself on her lol (fuck that shit, I paid to fuck)



I would never tell anybody that
The question was for @tanfeo of course. I already know what you would advice. It's easy for tanfeo to say that he values pussy at 0 dollars AFTER experiencing hundreds of pussies. While I've yet to see one.

I want to try cause the prostitute to orgasm, but many have all kinds of limits and they can call a police etc. Refuse service, end the meeting and still take the money. I understand that they have 10-20 customers a day when on tour like the Czech prostitutes on tour in Finland. They stay only day or two in one town. So it's painful to orgasm with everybody.

I've known a very long time that big proportion of women have secret rape fantasies. But the raper is usually a man they are attracted to and they want him to just come take what he wants.

There is also genuinely small amount of usually old prostitutes that really like what they do. They can genuinely enjoy sex and orgasm naturally with clients, but of course not with every client.
 
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There is a big difference between sex that is done to satisfy both participants compared to sex that ends when the client is satisfied. I think that if I ever have real sex, the most exciting thing is the prospect that the woman could get satisfaction, enjoyment and orgasm(s) FROM ME/BECAUSE OF ME. I would be more interested what she feels compared to what I feel. I want to be loved.


So despite your signature, you have fucked lots of prostitutes? And given them lots of money? I agree with you. But that is easy to say after those experiences. Would you say to me to never hire a prostitute?
It's not that I feel like having had my share of whores so now I can be critical about it because I lived it, no.
It's more like regret of having spent a huge amount of money that otherwise would have bought me a house, study, decent health service and what else (copes).
At the end I'm still alone and have never been genuinely loved by a foid.
So for me it wasn't worth it, the only ones that got better were the whores themselves.
It was my bluepilled mindset at the time that tricked me into believing I could get more or better sex than others, or that I was "special" for them.
You really have to wake up, foids in general are cruel monsters. Whores are even more of a psychopath.

I can't tell you what to do and what not. But I can share my experiences.
If you wanna know how it feels, well go and try it a couple of times.
But don't lose your head, and it doesn't matter how much they satisfy your needs, you're still a walking ATM for them.
The money is better spend on other things.
 
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It's not that I feel like having had my share of whores so now I can be critical about it because I lived it, no.
It's more like regret of having spent a huge amount of money that otherwise would have bought me a house, study, decent health service and what else (copes).
At the end I'm still alone and have never been genuinely loved by a foid.
So for me it wasn't worth it, the only ones that got better were the whores themselves.
It was my bluepilled mindset at the time that tricked me into believing I could get more or better sex than others, or that I was "special" for them.
You really have to wake up, foids in general are cruel monsters. Whores are even more of a psychopath.

I can't tell you what to do and what not. But I can share my experiences.
If you wanna know how it feels, well go and try it a couple of times.
But don't lose your head, and it doesn't matter how much they satisfy your needs, you're still a walking ATM for them.
The money is better spend on other things.
Did you enjoy the sex?

Or did you only enjoyed the idea of being genuinely liked by them?

If you enjoyed the sex, then how can you say it was not worth it? You made the decision because you wanted it, not because someone told you to do it.
 
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Did you enjoy the sex?

Or did you only enjoyed the idea of being genuinely liked by them?

If you enjoyed the sex, then how can you say it was not worth it? You made the decision because you wanted it, not because someone told you to do it.
You get the same feeling jerking off. Five minutes of joy don't compensate the amount of money spend.
It's an illusion, once you're out on the street you regret it already. It's more the "idea of getting sex" that you enjoy, not the act itself.
 
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You get the same feeling jerking off. Five minutes of joy don't compensate the amount of money spend.
It's an illusion, once you're out on the street you regret it already. It's more the "idea of getting sex" that you enjoy, not the act itself.
Damn that's disturbing
 
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You get the same feeling jerking off. Five minutes of joy don't compensate the amount of money spend.
It's an illusion, once you're out on the street you regret it already. It's more the "idea of getting sex" that you enjoy, not the act itself.
Wow. There's just no way to win is there. I'll still try escorting a couple of times to lose the virgin tag and see how it feels. But I get the same feeling that its too much money for not enough satisfaction.
 
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It seems to me that these kinds of experiences really don't mean much when you're too fucked up in the mind. I personally can remember a few things I didn't use to enjoy when I was depressed and once I got myself some medication and they felt great.

I mean I'm not saying that fucking whores will give you the same joy as having sex with your oneitis, but you're not supposed to feel numb and bad about it. It should feel good anyways.
 
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Wow. There's just no way to win is there. I'll still try escorting a couple of times to lose the virgin tag and see how it feels. But I get the same feeling that its too much money for not enough satisfaction.
Yeah that should be ok as long as you not go broke over it.
There was something they called "Girlfriend Experience" (GFE) that all escortcels were after.
It's still whoring but with the exception that the foid gives you a true "girlfriend experience".
This can be an exception to the rule, but sadly few whores are in to this and you can't tell before you visit it.
 
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Circular logic, most men are raised to value these concepts today, fucking whores was a shameless norm hundreds of years ago

Most men don't rape today because we are aware of the social ostracization and legal consequences of rape

You take your average guy and put him on a deserted island, with a 10/10 white blonde 16 year old female and if she rejects him, within a month he will rape her (and that's if he's an extreme moralfag, the less of a moralfag the shorter the time span)

You guys need to stop confusing modern cultural norms with biology, there is no biological urge for "mutual affection", as men we just want to touch and be inside a woman's warm soft body PERIOD (regardless of her attraction to us). Physical sexual stimulation feels good regardless of consent or not, the problem is men are raised today to detest and feel disgust with these innate urges, so its like you were rewired to hate what you are biologically inclined to do
You know, you are right on one aspect, but you don't see the full picture here.

Yes, from a purely sexual perspective, biologically speaking the only thing that matters is creampieing a pussy, regardless if the foid enjoys it or not.

Also, you are right about cultural/societal norms who put female validation and being with a woman on the pedestal and ingraining it into the minds of males growing up.

However, to say that it's all just psychological cuckoldry to go for female validation is not right. Validation and conformity is a biological function in order to be accepted into groups who, back then, enhanced your living chances greatly.

Group belonging and validation is a biological need as well. And since current society is shaped to see woman and validations from them as a status symbol, it becomes a biological need to be validated and be interesting to females.

In a society where it would be cool to be a virgin and woman don't matter, what you say would be true - but that's not the society we find ourselves in, so it really is a deep innate need to be wanted by foids and you just forced a mental shift upon you to be content and happy with just sex.

Dont act however like this is the truth and incels are deluded or stupid for wanting anything more than sex. They are not.
 
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You get the same feeling jerking off. Five minutes of joy don't compensate the amount of money spend.
It's an illusion, once you're out on the street you regret it already. It's more the "idea of getting sex" that you enjoy, not the act itself.
Maybe it's better to just fap whenever you get the urge, and to simply nuke the desire as quickly as possible. If by some miracle I ever fix my life, I'll probably try escortcelling once, but I doubt I'd go for anything more than that.
 
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You know, you are right on one aspect, but you don't see the full picture here.

Yes, from a purely sexual perspective, biologically speaking the only thing that matters is creampieing a pussy, regardless if the foid enjoys it or not.

Also, you are right about cultural/societal norms who put female validation and being with a woman on the pedestal and ingraining it into the minds of males growing up.

However, to say that it's all just psychological cuckoldry to go for female validation is not right. Validation and conformity is a biological function in order to be accepted into groups who, back then, enhanced your living chances greatly.

Group belonging and validation is a biological need as well. And since current society is shaped to see woman and validations from them as a status symbol, it becomes a biological need to be validated and be interesting to females.

In a society where it would be cool to be a virgin and woman don't matter, what you say would be true - but that's not the society we find ourselves in, so it really is a deep innate need to be wanted by foids and you just forced a mental shift upon you to be content and happy with just sex.

Dont act however like this is the truth and incels are deluded or stupid for wanting anything more than sex. They are not.
I believe wanting female validation is genetic, some men don't give a shit and some men do. I've noticed that there are some races who are less likely to give a shit (blacks, indians) while others care a lot about pleasing women (whites)

But this is all just a theory of mine.
 
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Group belonging and validation is a biological need as well.
It isn't a need, its "beneficial" for a functioning society, but nobody needs a "society" to survive, therefore it isn't a need, its just an "upgrade" that humans can take advantage of

Its like a Windows 10 installation with 8GBs of RAM on your computer, you can get 16GB if you want but you don't NEED it, things will just run smoother if you have it, don't conflate benefit with necessity

Just because you've gotten used to have electricity, shopping at gorcery stores, etc doesn't mean you now BIOLOGICALLY NEED THESE THINGS, and "belonging" and "validation" are "social advancements" in the same sense that the things I mentioned are "technological advancements"

They aren't "needed" they are "useful and beneficial", they are "advancements", but YOU NEVER NEEDED IT AND YOU NEVER WILL NEED IT, that's your indoctrination talking
 
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It isn't a need, its "beneficial" for a functioning society, but nobody needs a "society" to survive, therefore it isn't a need, its just an "upgrade" that humans can take advantage of

Its like a Windows 10 installation with 8GBs of RAM on your computer, you can get 16GB if you want but you don't NEED it, things will just run smoother if you have it, don't conflate benefit with necessity

Just because you've gotten used to have electricity, shopping at gorcery stores, etc doesn't mean you now BIOLOGICALLY NEED THESE THINGS, and "belonging" and "validation" are "social advancements" in the same sense that the things I mentioned are "technological advancements"

They aren't "needed" they are "useful and beneficial", they are "advancements", but YOU NEVER NEEDED IT AND YOU NEVER WILL NEED IT, that's your indoctrination talking
I believe you're totally wrong on this. Back then, thousands of years ago, where our current drives and needs developed, humans who had no one died in the wilderness. Whereas humans in a groups, who had belonging and validation, reveived additional survival success because of additional safety and protection.

Thanks to advancements in society and technology this isn't that needed anymore, we can survive alone just fine, but it still is ingrained in us, just like sexual reproduction.

Having sex and wanting to belong/liked/loved both are evolutionary desires that are ingrained in all of us. We don't need it to survive, but we need it for our mental health.
 
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humans who had no one died in the wilderness
Wrong, humans who didn't know how to surive died, more people equals more mouths to food, less food for you, less water for you, etc, having other people around is more about not being bored or "finding meaning" in life, it has nothing to do with survival

Having sex and wanting to belong/liked/loved both are evolutionary desires that are ingrained in all of us. We don't need it to survive, but we need it for our mental health.
You need sex for mental health because its a physical craving, there is no physical craving for being "liked", its all psychological
 
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Wrong, humans who didn't know how to surive died, more people equals more mouths to food, less food for you, less water for you, etc, having other people around is more about not being bored or "finding meaning" in life, it has nothing to do with survival
So you seriously believe that people who had peers and friends who protected them and helped them didn't have an evolutionary advantage compared to loners who were completely by themselves?! Ok then. Cba to search for evolutionary biology papers atm, but I suggest you give it a try and check whether there was selection pressure for likeability and ability to make friends.
 
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So you seriously believe that people who had peers and friends who protected them and helped them didn't have an evolutionary advantage compared to loners who were completely by themselves?!
Again that only applies to those without the skills to survive on their own, really and truly having people you care about is a liability (blackmail)

If you are alone, you only have to look out for yourself, and its much easier to survive on your own really and truly, your argument is as stupid as saying lone animals don't hunt and kill alone, are the only animals you know of wolves?, obviously not, and most animals hunt on their own and survive pretty much on their own

So your argument only applies to someone who lacks the know how to survive alone, but once you know how to hunt, find proper shelter, avoid large groups, etc, you will survive better than any small group that bands together to survive

Cba to search for evolutionary biology papers atm, but I suggest you give it a try and check whether there was selection pressure for likeability and ability to make friends.
Circular logic, you are bascially stating the obvious - "We evolved to be social", yeah no shit, it allows me to message you across the internet, but you don't NEED to be social to SURVIVE

Again, key words are NEED and SURVIVE:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkZoUuAqRhk

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxM9FYSs8V4

If you have the know how, its easier to survive on your own

Seriously think about it, a hunter in a hunter gatherer community has to hunt for the entire village to eat, one guy can kill the same single deer that hunter killed and have all of the meat to himself
 
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Again that only applies to those without the skills to survive on their own, really and truly having people you care about is a liability (blackmail)

If you are alone, you only have to look out for yourself, and its much easier to survive on your own really and truly, your argument is as stupid as saying lone animals don't hunt and kill alone, are the only animals you know of wolves?, obviously not, and most animals hunt on their own and survive pretty much on their own

So your argument only applies to someone who lacks the know how to survive alone, but once you know how to hunt, find proper shelter, avoid large groups, etc, you will survive better than any small group that bands together to survive



Circular logic, you are bascially stating the obvious - "We evolved to be social", yeah no shit, it allows me to message you across the internet, but you don't NEED to be social to SURVIVE

Again, key words are NEED and SURVIVE:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkZoUuAqRhk

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxM9FYSs8V4

If you have the know how, its easier to survive on your own

Seriously think about it, a hunter in a hunter gatherer community has to hunt for the entire village to eat, one guy can kill the same single deer that hunter killed and have all of the meat to himself
Stop with these dumb copes, ALL primates are social creatures, no exception.
 
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its because you know that u are still not getting true and real validation from a cuntoid
 
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foreplay > sex
I am a virgin so I can't say this with 100% certainty, but this is the impression I have.

Foreplay seems much more fun, kissing her lips, neck, sucking her tits, grabbing her ass and thighs... etc

The fucking itself is mostly pleasurable only in the dick
 
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I am a virgin so I can't say this with 100% certainty, but this is the impression I have.

Foreplay seems much more fun, kissing her lips, neck, sucking her tits, grabbing her ass and thighs... etc

The fucking itself is mostly pleasurable only in the dick
It is.

Obviously you can still do some of the above while you're fucking in certain positions.

But think of whores as an interactive cum rag
 
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