[Serious] An ""incel"" who's never approached literally fails to meet the definition of inceldom

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I myself approached a lot before giving up and I'm all for approaching (with caution, of course - don't do things like RSD's "plowing" or caveman), especially if you're young and not really that bad-looking, but I think if you've tried at least some warm approaching and online dating and still failed you can be considered an incel (if you're sub5, that is).

Cold approaching is brutal, not all guys can endure that.
 
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interesting discussion here
 
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this is a really low IQ thread, you can tell whether a female is attracted to you or not based on IOIs (Indicators Of Interest), or lack thereof. If a foid is attracted to you, she'll give you the signal and thats when you approach. If you never got the signal to approach, then you know that foids didnt want you without having to approach them in order to come to that realization
take this redpill garbage somewhere else
 
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but I think if you've tried at least some warm approaching and online dating and still failed you can be considered an incel (if you're sub5, that is).
I agree with this.
Cold approaching is brutal, not all guys can endure that.
This is the only fair point so far against what I've said. Some of the rejections I've gotten have pushed me a few centimeters away from suicide.
 
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@Angry_runt aren't you an old freelancer programmer with money? You seem like a prime candidate for SEAmaxxing.
There is no ascension in Thailand, only escortmaxxing in one form of another. How it works: you go out on a date with your Thai girlfriend (who possibly got literally shat on in the previous 24 hours), she takes you to restaurants and bars she has deals with and gets a percentage for everything you order. You use a taxi she has deals with and gets a percentage of the fare. Then you go to a hotel she has a deal with and she gets a percentage of what you paid for the room. Then you fly home and think you didn't just fuck a whore for money. It's why western guys love Thailand so much.
If I wanted to escortmaxx, I can afford to do it in a civilized country rather than some SEA shit hole.
I've been to Bangkok for a layover and from what I could tell foids weren't attracted to me any more than they were in Europe or US. This was before dating apps, but the way they worked out everywhere else, I doubt they would have made me more attractive to Thai foids.
A cab driver did give me a menu with pics of whores, because that's what they assume you want every time they see a guy who's not with a woman. That's what that country is about and that's what SEAmaxxing effectively is.


I was referring to @Angry_runt who was mentioning how alphadesitny had a 12-16% success rate (as a chadlite).
Not alphadestiny, Mystery... once the world's most famous pickup artist by far.
 
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I've tried approaching a bunch of times. But imagine if you see a sandwich made of shit on the street. You take a bite and hates it. There is no point in having to eat it all to argue that it's not going to turn into a big mac at some point.
Same thing with approaching. Trying and trying after some rejections is just pointless self afliction.
 
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I've tried approaching a bunch of times. But imagine if you see a sandwich made of shit on the street. You take a bite and hates it. There is no point in having to eat it all to argue that it's not going to turn into a big mac at some point.
Same thing with approaching. Trying and trying after some rejections is just pointless self afliction.
Never said anything against this
 
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I don't even know where to meet women. No, I will not hit on women at the workplace for obvious reasons.
 
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I haven't done cold approaches irl.Thats cringe and retarded.
I try online and trough friend groups.
 
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Low iq thread. Say that to my deformed face.
 
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An incel is someone unable to be in a romantic relationship despite trying.

You know... despite trying

tbh, if you've never approached, you don't belong here yet
Finally someone said it, fakecels who havn't tried GTFO
 
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Finally someone said it, fakecels who havn't tried GTFO
Bluepill Cope. Approaching as an ugly non-NT male gets you in prison & sexual assault/harassment accusations. You are a cuck if you are willing to go to prison/ruin your life for a hole. However, never trying anything online is a different story.

This shouldnt have to be explained.
 
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Bluepill Cope. Approaching as an ugly non-NT male gets you in prison & sexual assault/harassment accusations. You are a cuck if you are willing to go to prison/ruin your life for a hole. However, never trying anything online is a different story.

This shouldnt have to be explained.
The problem with this is that you can't rate your own looks. My rating of my looks comes from my countless of rejections.
I've been in situations where women view me as either confident or NT and they STILL don't find me attractive whatsoever, hence i can call myself a truecel.
How many of those who approach gets in jail? Like 1 out of 100000000
Like saying you can't leave the house without getting stabbed or robbed, jail for approaching is meme
 
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The problem with this is that you can't rate your own looks. My rating of my looks comes from my countless of rejections.
I've been in situations where women view me as either confident or NT and they STILL don't find me attractive whatsoever, hence i can call myself a truecel.
How many of those who approach gets in jail? Like 1 out of 100000000
Like saying you can't leave the house without getting stabbed or robbed, jail for approaching is meme
Still bluepilled because looks are everything. If you dont already get attention or hints from foids, approaching is cope. Remeber that it takes less than a second to decide if someone is attracted to someone or not.
 
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An incel is someone unable to be in a romantic relationship despite trying.

You know... despite trying

tbh, if you've never approached, you don't belong here yet
This. Needed to be said.
 
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Yeah sure with those stats you don't need to approach to know you're incel, but thats if your self rated rating is true, which it might not be.
Our problem is will alot of guys who just randomly rate themselves really low, without ever talking to a female ever.
Like i said before, my rating comes from experience with women. What they think of me.
I wouldn't know if i never talked to one ever.

Alot of normies would be incel if they never put in any effort, you can't deny this. This is also the gap between truecels and normies. A normie can get laid with good effort, while an incel can't get laid with insane amount of effort.
You think normies have females approaching them? LOL no!
 
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Yeah sure with those stats you don't need to approach to know you're incel, but thats if your self rated rating is true, which it might not be.
Our problem is will alot of guys who just randomly rate themselves really low, without ever talking to a female ever.
Like i said before, my rating comes from experience with women. What they think of me.
I wouldn't know if i never talked to one ever.

Alot of normies would be incel if they never put in any effort, you can't deny this. This is also the gap between truecels and normies. A normie can get laid with good effort, while an incel can't get laid with insane amount of effort.
You think normies have females approaching them? LOL no!
This comment makes you smarter than all the deniers in this thread combined.
 
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Yeah sure with those stats you don't need to approach to know you're incel, but thats if your self rated rating is true, which it might not be.
Our problem is will alot of guys who just randomly rate themselves really low, without ever talking to a female ever.
Like i said before, my rating comes from experience with women. What they think of me.
I wouldn't know if i never talked to one ever.

Alot of normies would be incel if they never put in any effort, you can't deny this. This is also the gap between truecels and normies. A normie can get laid with good effort, while an incel can't get laid with insane amount of effort.
You think normies have females approaching them? LOL no!
I've measured my height many times by myself & doctors. I am definitely 5'8". I've had my autism diagnosis multiple times from age 1-5 (based on what my parents said). 3/10 face is subjective but I'm still ugly.
 
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You have to make the opportunity by approaching. I never had "opportunities to take" but I still tried several times. Girls won't approach you unless you're literally Chad.
Cold approach wont work unless you're literally chad either, and a good way to get yourself in trouble.
 
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take this redpill garbage somewhere else
i cant tell if you're trolling or if you're actually retarded.

Briffault's law maintains “the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.”

Therefore if a female is interested in you, she will give you the signal to approach, and then you can approach and try to win her over with your "game." If she's uninterested in you however, and you approach even when she doesn't give you any signal to approach, you will just get rejected straight away.

Women are the primary selectors when it comes to sexual reproduction. This is literally part of the blackpill

It's ironic that you label what i said as being "redpilled" when you clearly dont even know the differences between redpill, blackpill or bluepill. Not surprising considering your join date, you're probably just a normie larper or IT infiltrator, keep posting bluepilled BS and you'll get your rightful ban soon enough.
 
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Cold approach wont work unless you're literally chad either, and a good way to get yourself in trouble.
As @Ropemaxx said, you can't know your actual looks tier without actual confirmation from outside sources. You only have to spend a couple days on incel sites to see high tier normies rating themselves as truecel tier, and admitting to having never tried.
 
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As @Ropemaxx said, you can't know your actual looks tier without actual confirmation from outside sources. You only have to spend a couple days on incel sites to see high tier normies rating themselves as truecel tier, and admitting to having never tried.
I think it's quite easy to determine your looks tier. Looks are very much objective and certain features are pretty much universally considered attractive, so if you don't have them it's easy to tell you're unattractive. Plus if women don't have friendly to you in general, or give you any signals they're interested in you and just ignore you/act hostile towards you, it's pretty obvious you're not attractive.

I don't think you actually need to approach to find that out.
 
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I think it's quite easy to determine your looks tier. Looks are very much objective and certain features are pretty much universally considered attractive, so if you don't have them it's easy to tell you're unattractive. Plus if women don't have friendly to you in general, or give you any signals they're interested in you and just ignore you/act hostile towards you, it's pretty obvious you're not attractive.

I don't think you actually need to approach to find that out.
I have to disagree. It's really easy to convince yourself of things, and it's been demonstrated time and time again.
 
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I have to disagree. It's really easy to convince yourself of things, and it's been demonstrated time and time again.
I'd say a clear lack of interest from women leaves very little doubt really. If women are into you they'll usually let you know. They won't straight up pursue you, but they will do things to let you subtly know they're into you. If they pretty much just ignore you you're definitely not good looking.
 
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I'd say a clear lack of interest from women leaves very little doubt really. If women are into you they'll usually let you know. They won't straight up pursue you, but they will do things to let you subtly know they're into you. If they pretty much just ignore you you're definitely not good looking.
You're talking about chads again, up until the last line.
 
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Incels who don't approach are just ahead of the curve.
 
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An incel is someone unable to be in a romantic relationship despite trying.
This is kind of like saying you're not suicidal unless you've actually tried to kill yourself.
 
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If you're not chad they won't give you the time of day, particularly not in cold approaches.
This is cope tbh, it's not easy or likely but normies do get laid and have relationships. Sub8 is a meme
 
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You have to try quite a bit of approaches. Even good looking guys strike out most of the time when cold approaching. If you're a 8/10 guy, you're nothing special to a 7/10 girl. That PUA Mystery said his success rate for getting dates from cold approaches was 12-16% and he's 6'4" and chadlite tier for sure.
Mystery was so good looking that he could have just approached girls like a normal guy instead of constructing an aspie method like he did.

 
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This is cope tbh, it's not easy or likely but normies do get laid and have relationships. Sub8 is a meme
Normies do get laid and have relationships, but not from cold approaches especially not the retarded street "day game". Normies meet foids through their social circles or at their job. Propinquity is an advantage.

Mystery was so good looking that he could have just approached girls like a normal guy instead of constructing an aspie method like he did.
That's what I told him once and he replied "Thanks for the compliment, man" rather than address what I was saying.
 
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Incels are getting rejected before they approach. Like my women customers with disgusted look on their face when they look at me. When my women customers use formal language after years of meeting me and talking to me, or women my age. They don´t even want to be friendly with me, because this incel might think for a second he has a chance in life.

:feelsree: :feelsree: :feelsree:
 
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There is zero point in approaching if she shows zero signs of interest
I have never once in my life had a chick ever show signs she was into me
 
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There is zero point in approaching if she shows zero signs of interest
I have never once in my life had a chick ever show signs she was into me
You can't know what the signs are with 100% accuracy or even 50%, there's always gonna be a margin of error with us that's why we have fakecels
 
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You can't know what the signs are with 100% accuracy or even 50%, there's always gonna be a margin of error with us that's why we have fakecels
Girls make it obvious when they're super into a guy, you have to be a super sperg to not be able to see that
 
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Girls make it obvious when they're super into a guy, you have to be a super sperg to not be able to see that
Yeah when they're super into a guy, but normie and beta relationships exist. Sub8 is a meme. And it's not as obvious with these.

Also there are super spergs on here
 
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Yeah when they're super into a guy, but normie and beta relationships exist. Sub8 is a meme. And it's not as obvious with these.

Also there are super spergs on here
Normie and beta relationships are becoming less and less common
 
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Normie and beta relationships are becoming less and less common
They're still a thing though. So you have no excuse not to try a few times
 
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They're still a thing though. So you have no excuse not to try a few times
I have tried and have struck out
Rejection just hurts too much
 
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I'd say around 10

tbh I don't feel comfortable asking girls I don't know well
Okay this thread isn't really talking about you

Were all the rejections pretty much the same but you were different on different times?
 
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Okay this thread isn't really talking about you

Were all the rejections pretty much the same but you were different on different times?
I don't remember, dude

There were times where I've had feelings for female coworkers at my job, too but my lack of self-esteem prevented me from asking
 
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