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I've seen it boyos. Does it live up to it's hype? Yes. Should you go see it. Right away. I have never seen a film with as much BALLS as Joker. A timeless classic 10/10.
My mind is racing right now because I have so much to say about it. As for what I want to immediately roll off my tongue, I will try to limit it to incel-perspective related aspects of it. One aspect that might give some incels hesitation in viewing at previews of the film, is that Joker seems to have a girlfriend in the movie. I can confirm this girlfriend is a hallucination. Although Joker is 100% incel, he is not POLITICALLY an incel in this movie. He does not murder like ER, in that he feels slighted at women for being denied sex. He definitely keeps a psycho porn journal, and delusionally tries to journal about how to act more normal, but that's how incel he gets. There is nothing overtly political about Joker's motivations. Joker was depicted as an extremely mentally ill person. He is not only a paranoid schizophrenic, but he was victim of extreme childhood abuse, and he just gradually snapped as financial, medical, and emotional support that kept him sane fell like dominoes. Almost all incels are not only more sane, but have had much better lives than Joker. I feel almost greatful that I have copes, and I hope other incels feel that way. This film is incredibly introspective about realistic origins of violence, even moreso than taxi driver.
Joaquin Pheonix was destined for this role. Yet, I felt he took nothing away from Heath Ledger's performance, because these are different movies, and completely different Jokers. Joaquin is a bit luckier in that as the lead, and with a hard 'R' rating, he has so much more meat to work with. He is absolutely terrifying, yet relatable in the role. His lashing out was absolutely heart wrenching. He has such an incredible ability to make you feel how he feels, and you'll be in for an emotional roller coaster.
Although the style and pace of his murders are more in line with the style in the 70s (think Zodiac killer, or Summer of Sam), his pathology is frighteningly realistic, timeless, and relatable. I've never seen a murderer in film depicted in a way where it comes out of absolute fear and self-loathing. That's what makes it terrifyingly realistic, It's not this stupid macho Scarface thing. He involuntarily laughs when he means to cry. The experience Joker goes thru is NO power fantasy. Yet, when Joker murders a few asshole wall-streeters over a legally over retaliatory act of self-defense, the economic tensions of 70s Gotham induce a spirit where, for the downtrodden, Joker IS the hero. If Joker is problematic, the film asserts, we are ALL problematic, to an extent. There is no finger pointing in this film. There is a sense that the film is aware that everything is to blame.
There is no reason why an SJW should be mad at Joker, or at incels for watching Joker because they see him as some kind of incel figurehead. The film cleverly skirts a fine line making it relatable to almost anyone, save for law enforcement or other authoritarian figures. If anything the film is brilliantly meta, in that it almost critiques, not directly incels, but all of those types of people who latch onto violent extremists, and just lump in their own political grievances to justify their own crimes. It does this critique so compassionately, that I didn't feel insulted, in fact, I came away from that film feeling more peaceful and listened to.
The film was just a great surprise. I came expecting an incel power fantasy, and walked away seeing a truthful swan song about the cycle of this certain type of violence. The film made me feel greatful, that although I am an incel on the level of posting here, I am FAR away from feeling as low as the Joker felt. I liked the film, I think, for all the right reasons. And that's why you should see it.
I've seen it boyos. Does it live up to it's hype? Yes. Should you go see it. Right away. I have never seen a film with as much BALLS as Joker. A timeless classic 10/10.
My mind is racing right now because I have so much to say about it. As for what I want to immediately roll off my tongue, I will try to limit it to incel-perspective related aspects of it. One aspect that might give some incels hesitation in viewing at previews of the film, is that Joker seems to have a girlfriend in the movie. I can confirm this girlfriend is a hallucination. Although Joker is 100% incel, he is not POLITICALLY an incel in this movie. He does not murder like ER, in that he feels slighted at women for being denied sex. He definitely keeps a psycho porn journal, and delusionally tries to journal about how to act more normal, but that's how incel he gets. There is nothing overtly political about Joker's motivations. Joker was depicted as an extremely mentally ill person. He is not only a paranoid schizophrenic, but he was victim of extreme childhood abuse, and he just gradually snapped as financial, medical, and emotional support that kept him sane fell like dominoes. Almost all incels are not only more sane, but have had much better lives than Joker. I feel almost greatful that I have copes, and I hope other incels feel that way. This film is incredibly introspective about realistic origins of violence, even moreso than taxi driver.
Joaquin Pheonix was destined for this role. Yet, I felt he took nothing away from Heath Ledger's performance, because these are different movies, and completely different Jokers. Joaquin is a bit luckier in that as the lead, and with a hard 'R' rating, he has so much more meat to work with. He is absolutely terrifying, yet relatable in the role. His lashing out was absolutely heart wrenching. He has such an incredible ability to make you feel how he feels, and you'll be in for an emotional roller coaster.
Although the style and pace of his murders are more in line with the style in the 70s (think Zodiac killer, or Summer of Sam), his pathology is frighteningly realistic, timeless, and relatable. I've never seen a murderer in film depicted in a way where it comes out of absolute fear and self-loathing. That's what makes it terrifyingly realistic, It's not this stupid macho Scarface thing. He involuntarily laughs when he means to cry. The experience Joker goes thru is NO power fantasy. Yet, when Joker murders a few asshole wall-streeters over a legally over retaliatory act of self-defense, the economic tensions of 70s Gotham induce a spirit where, for the downtrodden, Joker IS the hero. If Joker is problematic, the film asserts, we are ALL problematic, to an extent. There is no finger pointing in this film. There is a sense that the film is aware that everything is to blame.
There is no reason why an SJW should be mad at Joker, or at incels for watching Joker because they see him as some kind of incel figurehead. The film cleverly skirts a fine line making it relatable to almost anyone, save for law enforcement or other authoritarian figures. If anything the film is brilliantly meta, in that it almost critiques, not directly incels, but all of those types of people who latch onto violent extremists, and just lump in their own political grievances to justify their own crimes. It does this critique so compassionately, that I didn't feel insulted, in fact, I came away from that film feeling more peaceful and listened to.
The film was just a great surprise. I came expecting an incel power fantasy, and walked away seeing a truthful swan song about the cycle of this certain type of violence. The film made me feel greatful, that although I am an incel on the level of posting here, I am FAR away from feeling as low as the Joker felt. I liked the film, I think, for all the right reasons. And that's why you should see it.
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