[Serious] As many as 50 million are unemployed in the USA due to the quarantine.

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Yet we still let curries and wetbacks steal our jobs
 
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Yet we still let curries and wetbacks steal our jobs
Nobody is stealing any of your jobs. There is a shortage for skilled STEM jobs that you're not fulfilling locally, so the demand is met by international imported skilled labor.

And the wetbacks are getting the jobs because your companies are willing to undercut the local labor by paying the Mexicans a fraction of the cost for the same (or greater) labor. Failing that, they relocate their manufacturing to a country with cheap labor, like what GM did and many others do.

If you want to point a finger and place blame anywhere, it should be pointed at your own CEOs. But no, it's easier to blame foreigners for your problems, like those boomers who blame every American problem on communism.
 
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Nobody is stealing any of your jobs. There is a shortage for skilled STEM jobs that you're not fulfilling locally, so the demand is met by international imported skilled labor.

And the wetbacks are getting the jobs because your companies are willing to undercut the local labor by paying the Mexicans a fraction of the cost for the same (or greater) labor. Failing that, they relocate their manufacturing to a country with cheap labor, like what GM did and many others do.

If you want to point a finger and place blame anywhere, it should be pointed at your own CEOs. But no, it's easier to blame foreigners for your problems, like those boomers who blame every American problem on communism.
There is no shortage. The companies are just not willing to pay the fair price so they import curries who are willing to work for $0.02/hr instead of $0.01 in Mumbai

Someone with 10+ years of experience? Sure. But importing entry level college students to be CRUD javashit web copy paste developers is bullshit

The jews are behind everything
 
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There is no shortage. The companies are just not willing to pay the fair price so they import curries who are willing to work for $0.02/hr instead of $0.01 in Mumbai

Someone with 10+ years of experience? Sure. But importing entry level college students to be CRUD javashit web copy paste developers is bullshit

The jews are behind everything
I said SKILLED jobs.
 
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I said SKILLED jobs.
Grinding those shitty coding puzzles doesnt make you skilled

Trump should just suspend immigration for the remainder of his term until this situation solves itself
 
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Grinding those shitty coding puzzles doesnt make you skilled

Trump should just suspend immigration for the remainder of his term until this situation solves itself
I didn't say what skilled labor is. You haven't even defined the scope, yet you've already shoehorned what you think I mean by it.

Stop strawmanning.

Your own labor bureau says there's a shortage. According to this, the shortages are mostly not in jobs requiring doctorates. The shortages are also field-dependent at the bachelor level, like computer and software engineering - what I'm talking about.

 
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I hope a lot of men decide not to go back to work and either get on NEETbux or turn to crime. Fuck America. As long as men's (facial) HEALTH issues are ignored, men need to cause damage to society and drop out.
 
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Nobody is stealing any of your jobs. There is a shortage for skilled STEM jobs that you're not fulfilling locally, so the demand is met by international imported skilled labor.

And the wetbacks are getting the jobs because your companies are willing to undercut the local labor by paying the Mexicans a fraction of the cost for the same (or greater) labor. Failing that, they relocate their manufacturing to a country with cheap labor, like what GM did and many others do.

If you want to point a finger and place blame anywhere, it should be pointed at your own CEOs. But no, it's easier to blame foreigners for your problems, like those boomers who blame every American problem on communism.
It's a fucking joke, those oppressed immigrants are making way more money being underpaid in the west & living like an army barracks, sending the money home so a decade later they can go back to their country & become middle class, their education cost a fraction of what it would to get qualified in a western university & the money slowly seeps out of the country but it's all good man, some CEO gets to buy more houses & ferraris while silver spoon up the ass middle to upper middle class yuppies sit in their pointless cushy number thanks to social connections or opportunities free of malice early in life.
 
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If you want to point a finger and place blame anywhere, it should be pointed at your own CEOs. But no, it's easier to blame foreigners for your problems, like those boomers who blame every American problem on communism.
Both need to be blamed in order to form an effective political strategy against those in power.

The false dialectic of defending CEOs while being insincerely racist on the one hand (conservativism) vs. being anti-racist while insincerely blaming CEOs on the other (liberalism) accomplishes absolutely nothing and nullifies all political activism, just as intended.

Nobody is stealing any of your jobs. There is a shortage for skilled STEM jobs that you're not fulfilling locally, so the demand is met by international imported skilled labor.
"Shortage of skilled labor" is just bloodsucker speak for "we want immigrant curries to work for cheap, instead of raising wages to attract domestic laborers."

It's the exact same dynamic as with unskilled labor. The idea that skilled, curry immigration is somehow better than unskilled, Mexican immigration is another false political dialectic which serves to nullify effective opposition to those in power, promoted by the likes of Drumpf/Kushner. If anything, skilled immigration is far worse than unskilled immigration, in that it denies many native-born Americans the chance for upward mobility.
 
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Both need to be blamed in order to form an effective political strategy against those in power.

The false dialectic of defending CEOs while being insincerely racist on the one hand (conservativism) vs. being anti-racist while insincerely blaming CEOs on the other (liberalism) accomplishes nothing and nullifies all political activism, just as intended.
What do you propose?

"Shortage of skilled jobs" is bloodsucker speak for "we want immigrant curries to work for cheap, instead of raising wages to attract domestic laborers."

It's the exact same dynamic as with unskilled labor.
That is happening to some degree.

But there is an actual surplus of real work that needs to be done by businesses that teams of coding boot camp curries from Mumbai just aren't trained to do. A shortsighted business decision is to hire that cheap labor, have them build a "minimum viable product," which will soon break down or be outdated, then you have to pay some specialist to come in and fix your bad product, or double down and hire a fresh batch to build a brand new product and roll that out.
 
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Im a mid level developer with decades experience. Applied to thousands of jobs. Big tech intentonally rejects qualified natives to get h1b status so they can outsource to curries for lower pay. Theyll sit on and repost the same jobs for years and then claim they cant find qualified candidates. They dont want to pay.

Startups are worse with the oversaturation of community college bootcampers willing to work minimum wage for a mid level position. Its both curries and hyper greedy capitalist CEOs that have ruined the west.
 
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What do you propose?

That is happening to some degree.

But there is an actual surplus of real work that needs to be done by businesses that teams of coding boot camp curries from Mumbai just aren't trained to do. A shortsighted business decision is to hire that cheap labor, have them build a "minimum viable product," which will soon break down or be outdated, then you have to pay some specialist to come in and fix your bad product, or double down and hire a fresh batch to build a brand new product and roll that out.
They are just completely disinclined to raise wages. Notice how all social trends regarding STEM are about over-saturating the market with substandard laborers, whether they are curries or females (who are encouraged to enter into STEM simply for the short-term profits of the bosses, JFL).
 
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Thanks. Will look into this later.

They are just completely disinclined to raise wages. Notice how all social trends regarding STEM are about over-saturating the market with substandard laborers, whether they are curries or females (who are encouraged to enter into STEM simply for the short-term profits of the bosses, JFL).
You're right. There does seem to be a concerted effort - collusion even (hard to prove) - to drive down wages, because the kind of specialized skills they really need is costly in the free job market. It wouldn't surprise me at all if FANG companies conspired to do this.

Sadly, all businesses will always seek to cut corners where it matters most: labor and production. I still can't fault the curries who are willing to do more for less. Yes, they're driving the value of the labor in the market down for the rest of us, but to them it's always an upgrade. From their point of view, the correct and logical decision is in fact to undercut your own value and take a pay hit, since that lowered wage is still much higher than what they would be getting in curryland.
 
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I can see it in my paycheck
 
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Thank you for killing normie jobs Corona-chan!
 
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i've only been employed for 1 week and got fired
in that time i was laughed at by other workers and the supervisor called me a baby
i have come to accept the realities of my unemployability and my ascension to eternal neetdom. now i am hoping the situation will deteriorate to a point where the government will keep my NEETbux high and raised so i can continue to drivemaxx and 2Dmaxx
 
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Better buy the basics before the collapse: Medical supplies, gold, ammo, non-perishable food, clothes I suppose as well before bailouts cause hyper-inflation and ruin savers' life savings for good.
 
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They need to give us all another stimulus payment, and a check each month for the next year:feelsautistic:
 
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Yet we still let curries and wetbacks steal our jobs
There is no shortage. The companies are just not willing to pay the fair price so they import curries who are willing to work for $0.02/hr instead of $0.01 in Mumbai

Someone with 10+ years of experience? Sure. But importing entry level college students to be CRUD javashit web copy paste developers is bullshit

The jews are behind everything
 
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