This is a thought experiment I've been contemplating that'd I'd like help with.
Background:
Inceldom and the sexual marketplace dynamics in general are all related to the conception of sexual selection, which is the reproductive process in which species' females select mates based on their the way certain traits excite females in that population. There is a correlation between the level of "flamboyance" of these exciting traits have in a species relative to the difficulty of survival in a type of natural environment. For example, an elk's temperate zone environment is makes his antler a strong signifier of genetic strength in an environment that requires that. The peafowl male's feathers are also a symbolic feature of genetic strength, but they are a greater handicap than antlers. A peacock's ridiculous feathers don't hinder his individual survival, which is possible because the peafowl's environment is a subtropic land of abundance. The male can "afford" that type of ridiculous feather display.
Beyond simple displays are full "lekking" species that use displays like dances to excite females.
This "bird of paradise" from the tropical island of New Guinea is so entrenched in using displays that excite the female that they have extravagant feathers AND a dance display. None of this particularly helps a 'bird of paradise' survive, but survival traits are not really of great concern in a paradise. We can assume that the development of this sexual selection behavior developed AFTER the natural environment selected for traits that allowed the bird to survive, such as its beak shape.
Sexual selection is not entirely separate from natural selection, but depending on the how comfortable the environment is, sexual selection is a typical successor to natural selection. After a species has adapted to survival in an environment, THEN are females free to be choosy. This is the modern human dynamic is developed environment. Our "birds" are in a paradise, the reasons for which have been much discussed; technology and legal frameworks making survival an afterthought. This relates to the ability to leverage citizens or residency in a developed environment for sexual success.
Main thesis
A fundamental problem of the modern world is that fertile women are comfortable with the current dynamics, but the males of the species are still pushing science that changes our world. Also, people in underdeveloped environments reproduce at a high rate and migrate, making their own and even developed environments constantly in flux. With that in mind, one wonders if we even should be at the "sexual selection" stage or if we should be reproducing to better adapt to the modern environment. Well, what is the modern environment? Let's consider a few points.
Most developed world homes in (the U.S. at least) are designed with about 7 foot (215 cm) door ways that are about 2.5-3 three feet wide (90 cm). This is already creating problems for people who are too wide because of obesity. We can assume that if female sexual selection desires for tall men were to continue, modern domiciles would all become inhospitable.
Nearly all consumer products that exist in the world today were built post-WW2 for Western European type physiques, which means generally for 5'2" to 6'2" (160-185cm) range range of white male and female heights. So being comfortable in a chair or having a table be the correct height would be easier at that height range.
Climate change is making it so that the functional value of light skin, to absorb sunlight to convert to vitamin d, would be outweighed by the risk of sun causing cancers.
Most developed country work environments require sitting, which makes short legs and a large buttocks facilitators in sitting down comfortably.
Widespread dairy products make it so lactose intolerance is probably a disadvantage.
Body hair, a secondary sex display that also acts to trap scent, is probably of no value.
The aforementioned technological environment would necessitates a high enough IQ to adopt to coming changes like smart cars and virtual reality, and the ability to understand the background technology to varying degrees.
Conclusion
All of this makes me think that the "ideal" male for the present developed world may be a chubby Mongolian or other northern Chinese, who has a less-than-fairest complexion, height range similar to boomer Americans, can digest lactose, has little body hair and scent, has a high IQ, and has a body adapted to sitting on a horse which translates to modern offices.
It goes without saying that modern female sexual selection is not creating that type of man. One of the problems that will confound the developed world in the future is making the environment adapt to the Chad offspring they've created for a "paradise" that won't exist in as we know it.
Background:
Inceldom and the sexual marketplace dynamics in general are all related to the conception of sexual selection, which is the reproductive process in which species' females select mates based on their the way certain traits excite females in that population. There is a correlation between the level of "flamboyance" of these exciting traits have in a species relative to the difficulty of survival in a type of natural environment. For example, an elk's temperate zone environment is makes his antler a strong signifier of genetic strength in an environment that requires that. The peafowl male's feathers are also a symbolic feature of genetic strength, but they are a greater handicap than antlers. A peacock's ridiculous feathers don't hinder his individual survival, which is possible because the peafowl's environment is a subtropic land of abundance. The male can "afford" that type of ridiculous feather display.
Beyond simple displays are full "lekking" species that use displays like dances to excite females.
This "bird of paradise" from the tropical island of New Guinea is so entrenched in using displays that excite the female that they have extravagant feathers AND a dance display. None of this particularly helps a 'bird of paradise' survive, but survival traits are not really of great concern in a paradise. We can assume that the development of this sexual selection behavior developed AFTER the natural environment selected for traits that allowed the bird to survive, such as its beak shape.
Sexual selection is not entirely separate from natural selection, but depending on the how comfortable the environment is, sexual selection is a typical successor to natural selection. After a species has adapted to survival in an environment, THEN are females free to be choosy. This is the modern human dynamic is developed environment. Our "birds" are in a paradise, the reasons for which have been much discussed; technology and legal frameworks making survival an afterthought. This relates to the ability to leverage citizens or residency in a developed environment for sexual success.
Main thesis
A fundamental problem of the modern world is that fertile women are comfortable with the current dynamics, but the males of the species are still pushing science that changes our world. Also, people in underdeveloped environments reproduce at a high rate and migrate, making their own and even developed environments constantly in flux. With that in mind, one wonders if we even should be at the "sexual selection" stage or if we should be reproducing to better adapt to the modern environment. Well, what is the modern environment? Let's consider a few points.
Most developed world homes in (the U.S. at least) are designed with about 7 foot (215 cm) door ways that are about 2.5-3 three feet wide (90 cm). This is already creating problems for people who are too wide because of obesity. We can assume that if female sexual selection desires for tall men were to continue, modern domiciles would all become inhospitable.
Nearly all consumer products that exist in the world today were built post-WW2 for Western European type physiques, which means generally for 5'2" to 6'2" (160-185cm) range range of white male and female heights. So being comfortable in a chair or having a table be the correct height would be easier at that height range.
Climate change is making it so that the functional value of light skin, to absorb sunlight to convert to vitamin d, would be outweighed by the risk of sun causing cancers.
Most developed country work environments require sitting, which makes short legs and a large buttocks facilitators in sitting down comfortably.
Widespread dairy products make it so lactose intolerance is probably a disadvantage.
Body hair, a secondary sex display that also acts to trap scent, is probably of no value.
The aforementioned technological environment would necessitates a high enough IQ to adopt to coming changes like smart cars and virtual reality, and the ability to understand the background technology to varying degrees.
Conclusion
All of this makes me think that the "ideal" male for the present developed world may be a chubby Mongolian or other northern Chinese, who has a less-than-fairest complexion, height range similar to boomer Americans, can digest lactose, has little body hair and scent, has a high IQ, and has a body adapted to sitting on a horse which translates to modern offices.
It goes without saying that modern female sexual selection is not creating that type of man. One of the problems that will confound the developed world in the future is making the environment adapt to the Chad offspring they've created for a "paradise" that won't exist in as we know it.
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