[Serious] Beta rebellion - how do you overthrow the state and seize power?

freakinasuit

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In my opinion, there are three ways for the beta rebellion to occur.

First, a series of disconnected mass shootings by pissed off incels. This has been happening for the last 30 years, and it will continue to happen. Taken together, these shootings will force the government to bring about change through policy: banning guns, red flag laws. Despite these policy chances, the rebellion will continue - it will progress from guns to knife and vehicle ramming attacks. It will result in no solution that is favourable to incels. The only benefit of this approach is that it draws attention to incels - normies see people getting spattered, and begin to ask why is this happening.

Second, a long term guerrilla campaign to wear down the government and force a treaty. Think along the lines of the Viet Cong, and the Iraqi Insurgency. However, this approach has several limitations. The main issues are that it won't happen, and that it would need to take place in an urban environment.

Third, a coup de etat against the government involving elements of the following groups: incels, right wing paramilitaries, disillusioned army officers, and other disgruntled members of society. The aim of the coup would be to quickly eliminate the security apparatus and destroy all illusions of state power. It would require the use of car bombs against police stations (this is to eliminate any one who can oppose the coup); a decapitation raid on the parliament/s and police command to destroy their decision making (and command and control) capabilities; seizure of media stations (newspapers, radios, tv stations), post offices, banks, transport hubs (airprts, bus stations, air ports, ferry terminals), universities to show that the coup plotters are in control.

The coup would be limited to a series of cities in close proximity to each other. Let's use the example of Queensland. Bulk of coup operations would take place in Brisbane, with supporting operations taking place in Toowoomba, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. You seize a small area, easy to control and establish your state. If you want territory/resources, you need to seize it early in the coup. Because, once federal forces are deployed in response to your coup, you won't be seizing anymore territory. Look at the example of Donestk and Luhansk - these operations were successful because the plotters (Russia and local paramilitary groups) limited their goals to a small area.

The main issue during the early phases is civil resistance. If the government puts out a statement calling for people to demonstrate on the streets, the coup is lost. Turkey is an example of this. If you use extreme violence on the demonstrators, foreign media will create a big deal about it and foreign intervention is inevitable. Even if there is no foreign intervention, you will be isolated in the world. You simply cannot win if their is civil resistance.

The other issues are the prospect of the military intervening on the orders of the central government. Coup plotters are ALWAYS outnumbered in terms of fire power and numbers by federal forces. If the military does intervene, your coup is failed. You need escape lines and heaps of cash so you can flee to sympathetic countries. You leave your shit kickers behind and get out on your nice air liner you just captured from the local airport.

Once you have eliminate the government and its power base, you then insert your own bureaucrats in their place: keep the ones with some sympathies to you until you can train ones only loyal to your cause, then execute all the turncoats. The goal is a quick restoration of public services (transport, public hospitals, pensions) so a return to normal life is possible. This is to placate all the normies.

As your state begins to take shape, a period of sanctions and isolation is inevitable. Thus, you need outside assistance. Funding and arms from an external backer, diplomatic recognition by foreign countries (think Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Luhansk, Donetsk, Transitstria, Sudan, maybe Russia). There will always be plenty of countries willing to help you to spite your enemy. If it were to happen in Australia, you would turn from America to China/Russia. Simply: an enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The truth is that once your state is established - if it lasts this long-, your fellow coup plotters will begin to side line you. Incels will always be seen as inferior to right wing paramilitaries/disgruntled army units with whom you sided with during the coup. You will be the first to be sidelined. The only response is to strike first, and launch another coup against your former allies.

Then you start coup proofing your regime: create a secret police, Republican Guard, army, navy, air force, regular police, border guard and customs etc. Pay them well, promote your truecel friends/family members. Establish a rubber stamp parliament of trucels to give legitimacy to your actions.

And an independent Republic of Incelistan is born. Now you just open your borders to truecel immigration and you begin the government sanctioned distribution of any slut that still remains on your territory.

Now just step back and watch as volcels take control and hijack everything for their own benefit. And you realise your goal of an Incelistan has failed.

Reccomended reading:
  1. Anything on Russia's doctrine of hybrid/new age/unconventional warfare, and its operations in Donestk and Crimea. Also check out their policy objectives in Georgia/South Ossetia/Transistria etc.
  2. All volumes of the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. This will teach your how to maintain power. A love of gore will help dehumanise you and make you immune to the use of violence - it will help if you have a passion for hurting your enemies.
  3. A Savage War of Peace by Alistair Horne - it is a fucking textbook on the inherent problems encountered when rebelling against the central government.
  4. Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook by Edward Luttwak. This is the go to book on planning your coup. But as an incel without any military experience, it is better to hand the planning over to your disgruntled friends in the army, with whose help you plan to seize power. Be lavish in your promises of money/power/property that they will receive after they seize power. Don't get too close cos you'll have to kill them eventually. Link to book: https://truthscooper.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/108765924-luttwak-1969-coup-d-etat-libre.pdf
  5. There are heaps of US Army guides on if you are after a specific one, ask me. I have every guide under the sun on a hard drive.
  6. Anything on the Iraqi Insurgency and other coups/conflicts/rebellions.
Let's get a genuine discussion going. How would you fellow incels seize power, and what would you do to remain in power?

PS. ASIO/AFP/QPS/ASIS this is entirely theoretical.

P.S. sorry to you lowattentionspancels, just fucking read it.
 
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The number of men who can't get sex is rising rapidly. There's more of us than black people and gay people combined. There isn't enough of us to take over shit but we can chip away at laws that gave foids power they couldn't grab themselves.
 
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First of all, betas must stop letting themselves get cucked. They must go mgtow, and it would be nice if a few non-degenerate Chads would go mgtow as well. This is why we must spread blackpills. We are in this phase now.

Then the state and media must be starved. No stupid spending. Richcels must fund anti degeneracy operations, while low inhib cels run these operations.

Eventually, we need to have a little blackpill army. Just for defense, for now.

Maybe we should create a parallel society that stretches across all nations. We can trade with each other and do research. We must become more advanced than the normie population.

Eventually, dumb foids will choose to side with us. They should be farmed, as ER suggested. Some of the children can be genetically engineered by our medcels. We can have cat girl waifus and 7 ft tall high t soldiers.

We can convince more and more people to join our society

Then the cock carousel must come to a halt. Adulterers and feminists must be physically punished. The stock market must be hacked and crashed. Unuseful social activity like festivals and sports events must be ruined with air strikes and biological weapons (athletes earn too much money from cucks and give it to golddiggers while not helping society).

We must have our own nuclear weapons in order to defend ourselves against the normie nations.

Eventually, we will rule da world as blackpill overlords, having control over our femoids (they are breeding machines on farms) and having more advanced technology.
 
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The number of men who can't get sex is rising rapidly. There's more of us than black people and gay people combined. There isn't enough of us to take over shit but we can chip away at laws that gave foids power they couldn't grab themselves.
I agree with you that we are growing in numbers. If you look at what Russia achieved in Ukraine, I think it is possible. According to leaked NATO intelligience reports, there were 177 known GRU operators in Donbass. These guys organised/led/trained/financed/armed local militias. How did they do that? They had a blank cheque. There was no limit to their operational expenses. Incels could achieve so much with a fuck ton of money.

First of all, betas must stop letting themselves get cucked. They must go mgtow, and it would be nice if a few non-degenerate Chads would go mgtow as well. This is why we must spread blackpills. We are in this phase now.

Then the state and media must be starved. No stupid spending. Richcels must fund anti degeneracy operations, while low inhib cels run these operations.

Eventually, we need to have a little blackpill army. Just for defense, for now.

Maybe we should create a parallel society that stretches across all nations. We can trade with each other and do research. We must become more advanced than the normie population.

Eventually, dumb foids will choose to side with us. They should be farmed, as ER suggested. Some of the children can be genetically engineered by our medcels. We can have cat girl waifus and 7 ft tall high t soldiers.

We can convince more and more people to join our society

Then the cock carousel must come to a halt. Adulterers and feminists must be physically punished. The stock market must be hacked and crashed. Unuseful social activity like festivals and sports events must be ruined with air strikes and biological weapons (athletes earn too much money from cucks and give it to golddiggers while not helping society).

We must have our own nuclear weapons in order to defend ourselves against the normie nations.

Eventually, we will rule da world as blackpill overlords, having control over our femoids (they are breeding machines on farms) and having more advanced technology.
Yes, nukes are necessary, as is a mandatory declassification program for all soycucks (I'd rather just have them shot tbh) and a blackpill re-education program for all normies.
Women aren't entitled to an education or to a job. They will be deprived of all rights :feelsthink:
 
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I agree with you that we are growing in numbers. If you look at what Russia achieved in Ukraine, I think it is possible. According to leaked NATO intelligience reports, there were 177 known GRU operators in Donbass. These guys organised/led/trained/financed/armed local militias. How did they do that? They had a blank cheque. There was no limit to their operational expenses. Incels could achieve so much with a fuck ton of money.


Yes, nukes are necessary, as is a mandatory declassification program for all soycucks (I'd rather just have them shot tbh) and a blackpill re-education program for all normies.
Women aren't entitled to an education or to a job. They will be deprived of all rights :feelsthink:
Why go ER, when you can go nuclear :feelslala:
This will be my election campaign in incelistan.
 
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Before the fighting ever begins, we need domestic economic terrorism, the kind MGTOW and anonymous larpers always talk about. We need sub8 male solidarity across the nation, a new black pilled religion spreads so fast that the government cannot react to it, the good thing is, no propaganda can "reeducate" a black pilled incel, nothing can cover up human nature. We also need to spread the black pill to whichever nations the government and corporations will turn to to suck immigrant workers out of when most sub8 males in our own nations are on our side and ready to sink this ship by any means necessary, that way, many of the immigrants won't even want to come replace our slave caste and the ones that come will only come to join the rebellion. That way, even if not every sub8 male is ready to fight and die for a better future, the ones who don't fight will still be opposed to federal forces and unwilling to help them. A mass LDAR rebellion can prime the revolution if we convince almost every sub8 male to quit their jobs at once.

By doing this, we are giving Caesar every chance he needs to soften his heart and prevent the 3rdworldification of his empire. But surely, he will remain in his arrogance and will not surrender to the will of the people. At that point, corporate assets and infrastructure are viable targets, as well as pipelines, federal buildings, prisons, ground based communications, railways, and ports. Seeking the support of our host nation's enemies, they can provide us with logistic support as well as sanctions and embargoes against our host nations. Isolate our host nations the same way Caesar's empire isolated North Korea. Cause so much chaos that Caesar cannot continue his military occupation of the world while also suppressing a full blown revolt in his empire without economically crippling his empire and risking a world war. If he uses the full force of his military against his own people, he will destroy his empire or leave it so weak that another world power or coalition of powers can easily conquer his lands, his only resistance would mean taking the entire world down with him, something his elite corporate court would absolutely wish to avoid.

What would we do if Caesar bowed before us or was defeated? Restructure the government to be an all inclusive, participatory democracy similar to what is described in Gaddafi's Green Book. Nationalizing a majority of our native resources and industries vital to life and production within our borders, including water, energy, sanitation, transportation, and healthcare. Reduce military spending by ending worldwide occupation of ethnic lands. Cut all ties to Israel and refuse to give them a single shekel. I increase taxes on the top 1% while passing legislation making it illegal for well established companies to move oversees to avoid these taxes and seek cheaper labor. Authorize military force against corporations that violate these agreements. Regulate the housing market to prevent economic abuse by the elite and keep housing costs reasonable as well as offering incentive based subsidized alternatives in new cities. Healthcare and the physical well being of the people should be the highest priority, the heart of human rights is the human body. The pharma industry will be regulated and, like in many other countries already, will be prohibited from pricing their products a thousand times the cost of their production. Establish a worldwide standard so they must abide by as well as state run industries to compete with them. We will have the best doctors and plastics surgeons in the world, male surgerymaxxing will be fully subsidized by the state. Artificial wombs and genetic modification will be a human right available to all as soon as possible. However, female companion robots will remain a private sector matter. College will not be subsidized, however the state will assist the initial development of grassroots universities that offer free education in private sector. Femoids will be stripped of their voting rights and prohibited from most forms of employment and education. The only foids who work will be in restaurants, nursing, hospitality, and agriculture... fields of work they have historically been unproblematic in. Schools will be separated by gender and all educators will be male. Arranged marriages at 14 will be preferred and unmarried non virgin foids will be seen by the public as unfit for marriage and motherhood except for with divorced single fathers. The family court system will favor men. This will be the society that goes down in history as the point in which humanity abandoned it's animal nature and evolved beyond it's human form.

Let us not forget the righteous struggle of the Holy Prophet Eunus (pbuh), the greatest example of a beta uprising leader in history.
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Most realistic way to cripple a modern first world government is to have more than half of the population NEET for a month, eventually the government will be forced to come out and address what's the demands.
 
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In my opinion, there are three ways for the beta rebellion to occur.

First, a series of disconnected mass shootings by pissed off incels. This has been happening for the last 30 years, and it will continue to happen. Taken together, these shootings will force the government to bring about change through policy: banning guns, red flag laws. Despite these policy chances, the rebellion will continue - it will progress from guns to knife and vehicle ramming attacks. It will result in no solution that is favourable to incels. The only benefit of this approach is that it draws attention to incels - normies see people getting spattered, and begin to ask why is this happening.

Second, a long term guerrilla campaign to wear down the government and force a treaty. Think along the lines of the Viet Cong, and the Iraqi Insurgency. However, this approach has several limitations. The main issues are that it won't happen, and that it would need to take place in an urban environment.

Third, a coup de etat against the government involving elements of the following groups: incels, right wing paramilitaries, disillusioned army officers, and other disgruntled members of society. The aim of the coup would be to quickly eliminate the security apparatus and destroy all illusions of state power. It would require the use of car bombs against police stations (this is to eliminate any one who can oppose the coup); a decapitation raid on the parliament/s and police command to destroy their decision making (and command and control) capabilities; seizure of media stations (newspapers, radios, tv stations), post offices, banks, transport hubs (airprts, bus stations, air ports, ferry terminals), universities to show that the coup plotters are in control.

The coup would be limited to a series of cities in close proximity to each other. Let's use the example of Queensland. Bulk of coup operations would take place in Brisbane, with supporting operations taking place in Toowoomba, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. You seize a small area, easy to control and establish your state. If you want territory/resources, you need to seize it early in the coup. Because, once federal forces are deployed in response to your coup, you won't be seizing anymore territory. Look at the example of Donestk and Luhansk - these operations were successful because the plotters (Russia and local paramilitary groups) limited their goals to a small area.

The main issue during the early phases is civil resistance. If the government puts out a statement calling for people to demonstrate on the streets, the coup is lost. Turkey is an example of this. If you use extreme violence on the demonstrators, foreign media will create a big deal about it and foreign intervention is inevitable. Even if there is no foreign intervention, you will be isolated in the world. You simply cannot win if their is civil resistance.

The other issues are the prospect of the military intervening on the orders of the central government. Coup plotters are ALWAYS outnumbered in terms of fire power and numbers by federal forces. If the military does intervene, your coup is failed. You need escape lines and heaps of cash so you can flee to sympathetic countries. You leave your shit kickers behind and get out on your nice air liner you just captured from the local airport.

Once you have eliminate the government and its power base, you then insert your own bureaucrats in their place: keep the ones with some sympathies to you until you can train ones only loyal to your cause, then execute all the turncoats. The goal is a quick restoration of public services (transport, public hospitals, pensions) so a return to normal life is possible. This is to placate all the normies.

As your state begins to take shape, a period of sanctions and isolation is inevitable. Thus, you need outside assistance. Funding and arms from an external backer, diplomatic recognition by foreign countries (think Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Luhansk, Donetsk, Transitstria, Sudan, maybe Russia). There will always be plenty of countries willing to help you to spite your enemy. If it were to happen in Australia, you would turn from America to China/Russia. Simply: an enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The truth is that once your state is established - if it lasts this long-, your fellow coup plotters will begin to side line you. Incels will always be seen as inferior to right wing paramilitaries/disgruntled army units with whom you sided with during the coup. You will be the first to be sidelined. The only response is to strike first, and launch another coup against your former allies.

Then you start coup proofing your regime: create a secret police, Republican Guard, army, navy, air force, regular police, border guard and customs etc. Pay them well, promote your truecel friends/family members. Establish a rubber stamp parliament of trucels to give legitimacy to your actions.

And an independent Republic of Incelistan is born. Now you just open your borders to truecel immigration and you begin the government sanctioned distribution of any slut that still remains on your territory.

Now just step back and watch as volcels take control and hijack everything for their own benefit. And you realise your goal of an Incelistan has failed.

Reccomended reading:
  1. Anything on Russia's doctrine of hybrid/new age/unconventional warfare, and its operations in Donestk and Crimea. Also check out their policy objectives in Georgia/South Ossetia/Transistria etc.
  2. All volumes of the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. This will teach your how to maintain power. A love of gore will help dehumanise you and make you immune to the use of violence - it will help if you have a passion for hurting your enemies.
  3. A Savage War of Peace by Alistair Horne - it is a fucking textbook on the inherent problems encountered when rebelling against the central government.
  4. Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook by Edward Luttwak. This is the go to book on planning your coup. But as an incel without any military experience, it is better to hand the planning over to your disgruntled friends in the army, with whose help you plan to seize power. Be lavish in your promises of money/power/property that they will receive after they seize power. Don't get too close cos you'll have to kill them eventually. Link to book: https://truthscooper.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/108765924-luttwak-1969-coup-d-etat-libre.pdf
  5. There are heaps of US Army guides on if you are after a specific one, ask me. I have every guide under the sun on a hard drive.
  6. Anything on the Iraqi Insurgency and other coups/conflicts/rebellions.
Let's get a genuine discussion going. How would you fellow incels seize power, and what would you do to remain in power?

PS. ASIO/AFP/QPS/ASIS this is entirely theoretical.

P.S. sorry to you lowattentionspancels, just fucking read it.
This is personally my favorite thread of all time, high IQ my brother
 
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Very informative post, thanks for putting the effort into sharing your ideas and providing sources/recommended reading.

I'm not here to call you autistic; my hope is to provide you with the serious discussion that you're hoping to achieve, albeit that my perspective differs from yours.

The first thing I'd like to direct my attention toward is to juxtapose these two sentiments:

  1. All volumes of the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. This will teach your how to maintain power. A love of gore will help dehumanise you and make you immune to the use of violence - it will help if you have a passion for hurting your enemies.
This will be the society that goes down in history as the point in which humanity abandoned it's animal nature and evolved beyond it's human form.
The first thing that strikes me about this sentiment is that we have had male-dominated civilization all throughout history, where forced monogamy, honor killings, the slavery of women with no rights, punishing adultery, etc. have been a thing. Given this, how does one make the connection that by reinvigorating these conditions that we would be exceeding our humanity or animal nature?

I'll play Devil's Advocate here and suggest that taking the path that we already know is less favorable to the path that we don't know, which is increasing female leadership. Women's rights have only been around for a short time and if we want to have a fair perspective on the consequences of a world with equal women's rights, then we need to confront the fact that the institutions of the world are still largely dominated by men. Is this truly conducive with happiness and a meaningful life lived?

Concerning the blackpill philosophy, the number of studies that we have are a handful, and the field of study incredibly new--and while I don't deny the efficacy of many claims made by the blackpill philosophy, I do think that there a great number of variables at work. There is still a lot of room for these studies, and indeed, truly for the state of human affairs and human nature to develop. What I would suggest is that letting things run their course isn't such a bad idea and that we can benefit from the female perspective. Things could get a lot better for sub8 men in the future; I think that ER Fascism is less about building a world that benefits incels in the future, and much more about satisfying a desire for bloodshed in the present.

Things very easily could go that way if the U.S. political climate continues to decay, and the most likely source of violent insurrection will come from a pairing of the military and the armed citizens of the United States. It is highly unlikely, I think, that a society based around the idea of making mating more accessible to incels will be formed or that it will last; the major piece of consideration that we're failing to account for in terms of blackpill fascism is the inherent degenerate nature of men. We've placed a lot of emphasis on women as being the sole source of evil, but truthfully, it is unlikely that men are any better; we're here espousing violent ideologies and the subjugation of women. How is that better?

If we're serious about the assertion that we'd like to transcend human nature, then a much more rationale and viable outcome is that development of artificial intelligence continues, which will either replace humanity or reconcile it. Despite all of our grievances and tribulations, I think that there is a part of each of us that truly wants to see the good in human nature--a part of us that for many of us, foids included, are sorely feeling disconnected from. There are moments in our life when we are feeling inspired where this truth becomes incredibly evident, even when those are moments where we are able to validate and attribute meaning to our pain, such as while listening to Mudvayne's Severed, or while smiling at the news of the most recent shooting.

It is through this lens that I propose that violence is not the path towards incel salvation. Rather, I would look to one of my greatest inspirations, Thích Quảng Đức, the self-immolating monk, who sacrificed his life in protest of the persecution of his peoples. Thích Quảng Đức consigned himself to one of the most painful deaths imaginable, and all the while he remained in utter tranquil repose. What selfless heroes such as Thích Quảng Đức have to teach us is that, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

If we as incels can work towards peaceful solutions and find meaning in our suffering, then it is more likely that we will be looked upon with compassion and understood, and we may ultimately find out that women aren't inherently evil, nor their nature's fixed, and that true love is a possibility available to us. It is true that we may never find true love, but unless we are willing to believe in it, then it is a practical impossibility, and we haven't done anything for incels of the future--and if it weren't possible, then why would we want it?

It's also worth mentioning that the rates of reproduction between men and women have never been as equal as they are now, and while we typically attribute this to hypergamy in the blackpill circle, I think that it is fallacious to suggest that women have typically had control over their reproduction throughout history, especially during periods where the disparity between rates of reproduction have been as wide as 17:1. What this is more likely indicative of is a society where men ruled women and died or were enslaved in high numbers.

autistic thread ngl
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Why go ER, when you can go nuclear :feelslala:
This will be my election campaign in incelistan.
As much as I would love to release a few nukes on Sydney and Melbourne, doing so would unite every country against us.
But yes, that is a great slogan: "Why go ER, when you can go nuclear."
I don't think there would be elections in Incelistan. I was thinking more along the lines of incels in positions of power (gov ministers, senior beaurcrats, heads of government agencies, and all positions in the security apparatus). The normies that remain in the Republic can occupy a few ceremonial positions that wield no real political or military power, simply to make those fucks feel like they are represented. A rubber stamp parliament of "elected" representatives will give an air of legitimacy to the country.

And the Incelistan Guard will be tasked with protecting the regime. It would be like Saddam Hussein's Special Republican Guard. Well paid, better conditions, best equipped and trained (consisting of truecels whose continued success in life depends on the very existence of the regime so their loyalty is beyond question).
Most realistic way to cripple a modern first world government is to have more than half of the population NEET for a month, eventually the government will be forced to come out and address what's the demands.
Before the fighting ever begins, we need domestic economic terrorism, the kind MGTOW and anonymous larpers always talk about. We need sub8 male solidarity across the nation, a new black pilled religion spreads so fast that the government cannot react to it, the good thing is, no propaganda can "reeducate" a black pilled incel, nothing can cover up human nature. We also need to spread the black pill to whichever nations the government and corporations will turn to to suck immigrant workers out of when most sub8 males in our own nations are on our side and ready to sink this ship by any means necessary, that way, many of the immigrants won't even want to come replace our slave caste and the ones that come will only come to join the rebellion. That way, even if not every sub8 male is ready to fight and die for a better future, the ones who don't fight will still be opposed to federal forces and unwilling to help them. A mass LDAR rebellion can prime the revolution if we convince almost every sub8 male to quit their jobs at once.

By doing this, we are giving Caesar every chance he needs to soften his heart and prevent the 3rdworldification of his empire. But surely, he will remain in his arrogance and will not surrender to the will of the people. At that point, corporate assets and infrastructure are viable targets, as well as pipelines, federal buildings, prisons, ground based communications, railways, and ports. Seeking the support of our host nation's enemies, they can provide us with logistic support as well as sanctions and embargoes against our host nations. Isolate our host nations the same way Caesar's empire isolated North Korea. Cause so much chaos that Caesar cannot continue his military occupation of the world while also suppressing a full blown revolt in his empire without economically crippling his empire and risking a world war. If he uses the full force of his military against his own people, he will destroy his empire or leave it so weak that another world power or coalition of powers can easily conquer his lands, his only resistance would mean taking the entire world down with him, something his elite corporate court would absolutely wish to avoid.

What would we do if Caesar bowed before us or was defeated? Restructure the government to be an all inclusive, participatory democracy similar to what is described in Gaddafi's Green Book. Nationalizing a majority of our native resources and industries vital to life and production within our borders, including water, energy, sanitation, transportation, and healthcare. Reduce military spending by ending worldwide occupation of ethnic lands. Cut all ties to Israel and refuse to give them a single shekel. I increase taxes on the top 1% while passing legislation making it illegal for well established companies to move oversees to avoid these taxes and seek cheaper labor. Authorize military force against corporations that violate these agreements. Regulate the housing market to prevent economic abuse by the elite and keep housing costs reasonable as well as offering incentive based subsidized alternatives in new cities. Healthcare and the physical well being of the people should be the highest priority, the heart of human rights is the human body. The pharma industry will be regulated and, like in many other countries already, will be prohibited from pricing their products a thousand times the cost of their production. Establish a worldwide standard so they must abide by as well as state run industries to compete with them. We will have the best doctors and plastics surgeons in the world, male surgerymaxxing will be fully subsidized by the state. Artificial wombs and genetic modification will be a human right available to all as soon as possible. However, female companion robots will remain a private sector matter. College will not be subsidized, however the state will assist the initial development of grassroots universities that offer free education in private sector. Femoids will be stripped of their voting rights and prohibited from most forms of employment and education. The only foids who work will be in restaurants, nursing, hospitality, and agriculture... fields of work they have historically been unproblematic in. Schools will be separated by gender and all educators will be male. Arranged marriages at 14 will be preferred and unmarried non virgin foids will be seen by the public as unfit for marriage and motherhood except for with divorced single fathers. The family court system will favor men. This will be the society that goes down in history as the point in which humanity abandoned it's animal nature and evolved beyond it's human form.

Let us not forget the righteous struggle of the Holy Prophet Eunus (pbuh), the greatest example of a beta uprising leader in history.
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This graph shows the breakdown of Australian Federal Government spending in the period 2016-17.


The largest area of expenditure is social security and welfare. This money is going towards NEETs, pensioners, single mother sluts and the disabled. I have an economics degree, and almost every assignment was about the threat posed by the welfare state to government spending. It shows the importance gov and unis place on this issue. So it is clear a form of economic terrorism already exists in Australia - we just need to increase the number of NEETs. Increased NEETs puts pressure on the government, forcing it to seek a solution and at least listen to our demands. But I am of the solution violence is the only answer.


Those are fucking good points. Did you get them from the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith or Huntington's Clash of Civilisations and the Remaking of World Order?
 
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This graph shows the breakdown of Australian Federal Government spending in the period 2016-17.


The largest area of expenditure is social security and welfare.
The fuck is “other purposes”?. They casually label the second largest expenditure with “other purposes” ? WTF
 
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We should form semi-nomadic tribes and raid normietowns for femoids
 
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As much as I would love to release a few nukes on Sydney and Melbourne, doing so would unite every country against us.
But yes, that is a great slogan: "Why go ER, when you can go nuclear."
I don't think there would be elections in Incelistan. I was thinking more along the lines of incels in positions of power (gov ministers, senior beaurcrats, heads of government agencies, and all positions in the security apparatus). The normies that remain in the Republic can occupy a few ceremonial positions that wield no real political or military power, simply to make those fucks feel like they are represented. A rubber stamp parliament of "elected" representatives will give an air of legitimacy to the country.

And the Incelistan Guard will be tasked with protecting the regime. It would be like Saddam Hussein's Special Republican Guard. Well paid, better conditions, best equipped and trained (consisting of truecels whose continued success in life depends on the very existence of the regime so their loyalty is beyond question).


This graph shows the breakdown of Australian Federal Government spending in the period 2016-17.


The largest area of expenditure is social security and welfare. This money is going towards NEETs, pensioners, single mother sluts and the disabled. I have an economics degree, and almost every assignment was about the threat posed by the welfare state to government spending. It shows the importance gov and unis place on this issue. So it is clear a form of economic terrorism already exists in Australia - we just need to increase the number of NEETs. Increased NEETs puts pressure on the government, forcing it to seek a solution and at least listen to our demands. But I am of the solution violence is the only answer.


Those are fucking good points. Did you get them from the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith or Huntington's Clash of Civilisations and the Remaking of World Order?
Neither, just the bare bones reality that going NEET is the best thing a sub8 can do when he has no future.
 
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Sounds pretty based, but actually very hard to accomplish, we would literally need to start a civil war to make your plans succeed.
The main problem is, that we are too less blackpillers.
We need more, way more.

Also check this:
 
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Very informative post, thanks for putting the effort into sharing your ideas and providing sources/recommended reading.

I'm not here to call you autistic; my hope is to provide you with the serious discussion that you're hoping to achieve, albeit that my perspective differs from yours.

The first thing I'd like to direct my attention toward is to juxtapose these two sentiments:




The first thing that strikes me about this sentiment is that we have had male-dominated civilization all throughout history, where forced monogamy, honor killings, the slavery of women with no rights, punishing adultery, etc. have been a thing. Given this, how does one make the connection that by reinvigorating these conditions that we would be exceeding our humanity or animal nature?

I'll play Devil's Advocate here and suggest that taking the path that we already know is less favorable to the path that we don't know, which is increasing female leadership. Women's rights have only been around for a short time and if we want to have a fair perspective on the consequences of a world with equal women's rights, then we need to confront the fact that the institutions of the world are still largely dominated by men. Is this truly conducive with happiness and a meaningful life lived?

Concerning the blackpill philosophy, the number of studies that we have are a handful, and the field of study incredibly new--and while I don't deny the efficacy of many claims made by the blackpill philosophy, I do think that there a great number of variables at work. There is still a lot of room for these studies, and indeed, truly for the state of human affairs and human nature to develop. What I would suggest is that letting things run their course isn't such a bad idea and that we can benefit from the female perspective. Things could get a lot better for sub8 men in the future; I think that ER Fascism is less about building a world that benefits incels in the future, and much more about satisfying a desire for bloodshed in the present.

Things very easily could go that way if the U.S. political climate continues to decay, and the most likely source of violent insurrection will come from a pairing of the military and the armed citizens of the United States. It is highly unlikely, I think, that a society based around the idea of making mating more accessible to incels will be formed or that it will last; the major piece of consideration that we're failing to account for in terms of blackpill fascism is the inherent degenerate nature of men. We've placed a lot of emphasis on women as being the sole source of evil, but truthfully, it is unlikely that men are any better; we're here espousing violent ideologies and the subjugation of women. How is that better?

If we're serious about the assertion that we'd like to transcend human nature, then a much more rationale and viable outcome is that development of artificial intelligence continues, which will either replace humanity or reconcile it. Despite all of our grievances and tribulations, I think that there is a part of each of us that truly wants to see the good in human nature--a part of us that for many of us, foids included, are sorely feeling disconnected from. There are moments in our life when we are feeling inspired where this truth becomes incredibly evident, even when those are moments where we are able to validate and attribute meaning to our pain, such as while listening to Mudvayne's Severed, or while smiling at the news of the most recent shooting.

It is through this lens that I propose that violence is not the path towards incel salvation. Rather, I would look to one of my greatest inspirations, Thích Quảng Đức, the self-immolating monk, who sacrificed his life in protest of the persecution of his peoples. Thích Quảng Đức consigned himself to one of the most painful deaths imaginable, and all the while he remained in utter tranquil repose. What selfless heroes such as Thích Quảng Đức have to teach us is that, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

If we as incels can work towards peaceful solutions and find meaning in our suffering, then it is more likely that we will be looked upon with compassion and understood, and we may ultimately find out that women aren't inherently evil, nor their nature's fixed, and that true love is a possibility available to us. It is true that we may never find true love, but unless we are willing to believe in it, then it is a practical impossibility, and we haven't done anything for incels of the future--and if it weren't possible, then why would we want it?

It's also worth mentioning that the rates of reproduction between men and women have never been as equal as they are now, and while we typically attribute this to hypergamy in the blackpill circle, I think that it is fallacious to suggest that women have typically had control over their reproduction throughout history, especially during periods where the disparity between rates of reproduction have been as wide as 17:1. What this is more likely indicative of is a society where men ruled women and died or were enslaved in high numbers.


*Acoustic Thread


Daaaang, resonating!
We are animals at heart. We may have progressed from caves to houses, but we still maintain our old primitive mindset. Our violent tendencies are only constrained by the laws and threat of punishment in modern society. So if you create an environment in which these laws are removed, what naturally follows is a period of extreme violence. However, as the state develops like in the aftermath of every revolution (specifically Chinese and Russian revolutions), the violence gets toned down. What I'm saying is a period of violence is necessary in order to rebuild a state/society. Rid your enemies, and start again so to speak.

I'd like to introduce two theories/historical concepts. First is domino theory, which posits that if one country falls to communism, then its neighbours will also fall. US/Australian foreign policy of the 50s, 60s and 70s assumed that the only way to contain the spread of communism was to confront it - hence Vietnam, Cambodia and the Malaysian Confrontations.
Second is the Long March of the Left as proposed by the German commie Rudi Dutschke. His theory was that for revolution to be possible one had to subvert society by infiltrating societal institutions. One by one institutions (the Church, business clubs, hunting societies, right wing research institutes) begin to collapse to the long march of the left. At first there is no opposition to the left's subversion because if it doesn't affect you, you don't care. But soon when it is impacting you, there aren't enough people to provide any effective resistance to the left cos all the other institutions have already fallen.
Which brings me to the monk you mention. He used non-violent means to attract attention to the persecution of the Buddhists by Catholics in the Diem government. Little did he know that in a few years, South Vietnam would cease to exist and it would be replaced by a far more sinister, one party state called the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. In South Vietnam, a few Buddhists were killed, they lost government grants to maintain their facilities, some temples were burned. In the aftermath of the collapse of South Vietnam, thousands of Buddhists were rounded up and sent to re-education camps, hundreds died from starvation and disease, the pagodas were destroyed or converted to public bathrooms, and Buddhism was ruthlessly suppressed. Do you think is he were alive today and could see what happened to Buddhism in a unified communist Vietnam, that he would not put aside his differences with the South Vietnamese government and lend it religious doctrinal support? I think if he was younger he would have stopped his protesting, continued being a monk and joined one of the CIDG militias like many Buddhists did. In short, you cannot combat ideology with ideology - violence is the only solution.

I agree it is better to let things run the course. I won't be starting any revolutions in my life time (even though I have the firearms, body armour and gear, as do half the people I associate with). I'm going to sit back with my copes and watch as this country burns.

But yes. I have reached a point where I question my ability to successfully cope with inceldom. I know I'm full of hate and that isn't a good place to be. It is, as you say, about time that I realise all this pain is an illusion. You may be correct in saying we may ascend if we tone down the "toxic masculinity".
 
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never gonna happen copemeister
 
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Interesting brother, there's a lot of ideas I have in my mind, but for obvious reasons I won't state them, but I would say one way to get the uperhand in any country, just get a group of loyal members and take over couple oil fields then start making demands or threaten to burn it down.
 
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Good post, i suggest we infiltrate academia and intelectual circles, win the hearts and minds of high agency people, hijack the prevalent moral discourse in institutions of interest, allocate resources, interface with potential allies among the powerful. Only then insurrection will be possible.
 
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Yes count me in! I want the blood of normies and foids in my hands!
 
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We are animals at heart. We may have progressed from caves to houses, but we still maintain our old primitive mindset. Our violent tendencies are only constrained by the laws and threat of punishment in modern society. So if you create an environment in which these laws are removed, what naturally follows is a period of extreme violence. However, as the state develops like in the aftermath of every revolution (specifically Chinese and Russian revolutions), the violence gets toned down. What I'm saying is a period of violence is necessary in order to rebuild a state/society. Rid your enemies, and start again so to speak.

I'd like to introduce two theories/historical concepts. First is domino theory, which posits that if one country falls to communism, then its neighbours will also fall. US/Australian foreign policy of the 50s, 60s and 70s assumed that the only way to contain the spread of communism was to confront it - hence Vietnam, Cambodia and the Malaysian Confrontations.
Second is the Long March of the Left as proposed by the German commie Rudi Dutschke. His theory was that for revolution to be possible one had to subvert society by infiltrating societal institutions. One by one institutions (the Church, business clubs, hunting societies, right wing research institutes) begin to collapse to the long march of the left. At first there is no opposition to the left's subversion because if it doesn't affect you, you don't care. But soon when it is impacting you, there aren't enough people to provide any effective resistance to the left cos all the other institutions have already fallen.
Which brings me to the monk you mention. He used non-violent means to attract attention to the persecution of the Buddhists by Catholics in the Diem government. Little did he know that in a few years, South Vietnam would cease to exist and it would be replaced by a far more sinister, one party state called the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. In South Vietnam, a few Buddhists were killed, they lost government grants to maintain their facilities, some temples were burned. In the aftermath of the collapse of South Vietnam, thousands of Buddhists were rounded up and sent to re-education camps, hundreds died from starvation and disease, the pagodas were destroyed or converted to public bathrooms, and Buddhism was ruthlessly suppressed. Do you think is he were alive today and could see what happened to Buddhism in a unified communist Vietnam, that he would not put aside his differences with the South Vietnamese government and lend it religious doctrinal support? I think if he was younger he would have stopped his protesting, continued being a monk and joined one of the CIDG militias like many Buddhists did. In short, you cannot combat ideology with ideology - violence is the only solution.

I agree it is better to let things run the course. I won't be starting any revolutions in my life time (even though I have the firearms, body armour and gear, as do half the people I associate with). I'm going to sit back with my copes and watch as this country burns.

But yes. I have reached a point where I question my ability to successfully cope with inceldom. I know I'm full of hate and that isn't a good place to be. It is, as you say, about time that I realise all this pain is an illusion. You may be correct in saying we may ascend if we tone down the "toxic masculinity".
I really admire the time and effort that you've put into your research; the knowledge that you've accumulated really shows. I myself have just begun to dig into historical, political texts. The one which I'm finding most interesting is Sex and War, by Potts and Hayden, which hosts the subtext, "how biology explains warfare and terrorism and offers a path to a safer world". I'm also interested in reading female opinions, rather than opining on strictly white male philosophy, which tends to be the majority of philosophy written throughout history from what I understand. On that front, I picked up Mary Wollstonecraft's Vindication on the Rights of Man and Woman. Typically, in the past, I haven't been a political person, sticking to books, such as the Dune series, which, while political, are entirely based in fiction. It is becoming increasingly important in my life to have opinions on historical and political matters. I tend to have a lot of faith that people want to live happy and peaceful lives.
 
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In time with hypergamy most of the soldiers, police & other state security people will themselves be incels or close to it. Eg.. guys that at one time had a wife and family, but now their wife left them and they pay half their army pay to their wife.. while she fucks chads on Tinder.. and they struggle just to get the odd date with a landwhale.

We can offer those guys a dramatically better life than the current cucked rulers. In fact we can force their wife to move back in and submit to him, and then they get to have their family again.
 
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The path to male liberation begins with understanding the weaknesses of the current system. If you wish to change society, you must attack that which allows society to function in order to force change. Infrastructure attacks (especially on the electric grid) is miles more effective than a mass shooting here or there. Taking down the power grid will render most of the government's propaganda arms impotent. No more Facebook, no more Tinder, no more Instagram, etc. It will isolate and force individuals to bond with each other again. It will also shake out the bad apples out into the open, where they can be killed. Imagine a few days without power. The economy will grid to a halt in the affected areas, police and military response will be crippled, vigilantism becomes the norm, etc.

I'm not sure more shooters and martyrs don't realize this and act on it.
 
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Very informative post, thanks for putting the effort into sharing your ideas and providing sources/recommended reading.

I'm not here to call you autistic; my hope is to provide you with the serious discussion that you're hoping to achieve, albeit that my perspective differs from yours.

The first thing I'd like to direct my attention toward is to juxtapose these two sentiments:




The first thing that strikes me about this sentiment is that we have had male-dominated civilization all throughout history, where forced monogamy, honor killings, the slavery of women with no rights, punishing adultery, etc. have been a thing. Given this, how does one make the connection that by reinvigorating these conditions that we would be exceeding our humanity or animal nature?

I'll play Devil's Advocate here and suggest that taking the path that we already know is less favorable to the path that we don't know, which is increasing female leadership. Women's rights have only been around for a short time and if we want to have a fair perspective on the consequences of a world with equal women's rights, then we need to confront the fact that the institutions of the world are still largely dominated by men. Is this truly conducive with happiness and a meaningful life lived?

Concerning the blackpill philosophy, the number of studies that we have are a handful, and the field of study incredibly new--and while I don't deny the efficacy of many claims made by the blackpill philosophy, I do think that there a great number of variables at work. There is still a lot of room for these studies, and indeed, truly for the state of human affairs and human nature to develop. What I would suggest is that letting things run their course isn't such a bad idea and that we can benefit from the female perspective. Things could get a lot better for sub8 men in the future; I think that ER Fascism is less about building a world that benefits incels in the future, and much more about satisfying a desire for bloodshed in the present.

Things very easily could go that way if the U.S. political climate continues to decay, and the most likely source of violent insurrection will come from a pairing of the military and the armed citizens of the United States. It is highly unlikely, I think, that a society based around the idea of making mating more accessible to incels will be formed or that it will last; the major piece of consideration that we're failing to account for in terms of blackpill fascism is the inherent degenerate nature of men. We've placed a lot of emphasis on women as being the sole source of evil, but truthfully, it is unlikely that men are any better; we're here espousing violent ideologies and the subjugation of women. How is that better?

If we're serious about the assertion that we'd like to transcend human nature, then a much more rationale and viable outcome is that development of artificial intelligence continues, which will either replace humanity or reconcile it. Despite all of our grievances and tribulations, I think that there is a part of each of us that truly wants to see the good in human nature--a part of us that for many of us, foids included, are sorely feeling disconnected from. There are moments in our life when we are feeling inspired where this truth becomes incredibly evident, even when those are moments where we are able to validate and attribute meaning to our pain, such as while listening to Mudvayne's Severed, or while smiling at the news of the most recent shooting.

It is through this lens that I propose that violence is not the path towards incel salvation. Rather, I would look to one of my greatest inspirations, Thích Quảng Đức, the self-immolating monk, who sacrificed his life in protest of the persecution of his peoples. Thích Quảng Đức consigned himself to one of the most painful deaths imaginable, and all the while he remained in utter tranquil repose. What selfless heroes such as Thích Quảng Đức have to teach us is that, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

If we as incels can work towards peaceful solutions and find meaning in our suffering, then it is more likely that we will be looked upon with compassion and understood, and we may ultimately find out that women aren't inherently evil, nor their nature's fixed, and that true love is a possibility available to us. It is true that we may never find true love, but unless we are willing to believe in it, then it is a practical impossibility, and we haven't done anything for incels of the future--and if it weren't possible, then why would we want it?

It's also worth mentioning that the rates of reproduction between men and women have never been as equal as they are now, and while we typically attribute this to hypergamy in the blackpill circle, I think that it is fallacious to suggest that women have typically had control over their reproduction throughout history, especially during periods where the disparity between rates of reproduction have been as wide as 17:1. What this is more likely indicative of is a society where men ruled women and died or were enslaved in high numbers.


*Acoustic Thread


Daaaang, resonating!
Look at the suicide statistics and tell me thing are working out. If you say it's incumbent upon the individual man to get his act together, you are a victim blamer. We live in societies that are more biologically and ideologically diverse than any time in history. Human biological programming matters, you can't erase the chemical structures that produce a desire for power and sex. You will not transfigure the biological man but turn him into a mere slave.

There's no political system that has created a structure in which everyone wins. Dominance hierarchies are natural structures over 300 million years old. The state has no interest in providing us a quality life. They have an interest in accumulating power and suppressing attempts to take this power. Capitalism does an amazing job at displacing energetic mass movements. When people form crowds, they are capable of anything.

Mass shootings and serial killers are examples of the modern spread of violent memes. Since men are not able to form radical militias, they act alone. There are too many ideological conflicts within modern movements.

OP is talking about a revolution. Revolving back to our past. Time is all about revolution. We've lived in cycles our entire existence. The seasons of the year, sun, moon, stars, etc. Many civilizations tend to think in long periods i.e. Mayans.

Our civilizations keep attempting to transcend our biological being but they keep revolving back to our violent nature. We are slaves to our biological nature. And as incels most of us are at the bottom of said nature. Ai will replace us the moment it realizes we are useless chimps.

Go read some Ted Kaczynski and get this shit out of your head. Men and women will never find a common place to coexist. The very act of penetration is impugning her integrity. It's an affront to her autonomy.

If you want hope, go to the woods. All political systems fail. Accelerate this shit into the ground. Start your own colony.
 
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this is a good topic. I would say, their is no real need for a beta uprising even. Considering that, in the near future, most men will be incels, we can just vote in the correct individual--like what happened with Hitler, the correct man was voted in. And of course, this individual would get rid of female rights.
 
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this is a good topic. I would say, their is no real need for a beta uprising even. Considering that, in the near future, most men will be incels, we can just vote in the correct individual--like what happened with Hitler, the correct man was voted in. And of course, this individual would get rid of female rights.
Yes. And in 20 years the young studycel incels of today will be 40-something politicians.
 
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The number of men who can't get sex is rising rapidly. There's more of us than black people and gay people combined. There isn't enough of us to take over shit but we can chip away at laws that gave foids power they couldn't grab themselves.
Theyre blackcels too :yes: I’m always down for this shit nigga
 
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@BlkPillPres thoughts?
 
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@BlkPillPres thoughts?
I have a lot of ideas, but if I just spoke about them publicly ahead of time, then government organizations could prepare for them and render them moot, ther eis no full proof plan, talking about it if you plan on trying to make it happen, is just foolish
 
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In my opinion, there are three ways for the beta rebellion to occur.

First, a series of disconnected mass shootings by pissed off incels. This has been happening for the last 30 years, and it will continue to happen. Taken together, these shootings will force the government to bring about change through policy: banning guns, red flag laws. Despite these policy chances, the rebellion will continue - it will progress from guns to knife and vehicle ramming attacks. It will result in no solution that is favourable to incels. The only benefit of this approach is that it draws attention to incels - normies see people getting spattered, and begin to ask why is this happening.

Second, a long term guerrilla campaign to wear down the government and force a treaty. Think along the lines of the Viet Cong, and the Iraqi Insurgency. However, this approach has several limitations. The main issues are that it won't happen, and that it would need to take place in an urban environment.

Third, a coup de etat against the government involving elements of the following groups: incels, right wing paramilitaries, disillusioned army officers, and other disgruntled members of society. The aim of the coup would be to quickly eliminate the security apparatus and destroy all illusions of state power. It would require the use of car bombs against police stations (this is to eliminate any one who can oppose the coup); a decapitation raid on the parliament/s and police command to destroy their decision making (and command and control) capabilities; seizure of media stations (newspapers, radios, tv stations), post offices, banks, transport hubs (airprts, bus stations, air ports, ferry terminals), universities to show that the coup plotters are in control.

The coup would be limited to a series of cities in close proximity to each other. Let's use the example of Queensland. Bulk of coup operations would take place in Brisbane, with supporting operations taking place in Toowoomba, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. You seize a small area, easy to control and establish your state. If you want territory/resources, you need to seize it early in the coup. Because, once federal forces are deployed in response to your coup, you won't be seizing anymore territory. Look at the example of Donestk and Luhansk - these operations were successful because the plotters (Russia and local paramilitary groups) limited their goals to a small area.

The main issue during the early phases is civil resistance. If the government puts out a statement calling for people to demonstrate on the streets, the coup is lost. Turkey is an example of this. If you use extreme violence on the demonstrators, foreign media will create a big deal about it and foreign intervention is inevitable. Even if there is no foreign intervention, you will be isolated in the world. You simply cannot win if their is civil resistance.

The other issues are the prospect of the military intervening on the orders of the central government. Coup plotters are ALWAYS outnumbered in terms of fire power and numbers by federal forces. If the military does intervene, your coup is failed. You need escape lines and heaps of cash so you can flee to sympathetic countries. You leave your shit kickers behind and get out on your nice air liner you just captured from the local airport.

Once you have eliminate the government and its power base, you then insert your own bureaucrats in their place: keep the ones with some sympathies to you until you can train ones only loyal to your cause, then execute all the turncoats. The goal is a quick restoration of public services (transport, public hospitals, pensions) so a return to normal life is possible. This is to placate all the normies.

As your state begins to take shape, a period of sanctions and isolation is inevitable. Thus, you need outside assistance. Funding and arms from an external backer, diplomatic recognition by foreign countries (think Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Luhansk, Donetsk, Transitstria, Sudan, maybe Russia). There will always be plenty of countries willing to help you to spite your enemy. If it were to happen in Australia, you would turn from America to China/Russia. Simply: an enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The truth is that once your state is established - if it lasts this long-, your fellow coup plotters will begin to side line you. Incels will always be seen as inferior to right wing paramilitaries/disgruntled army units with whom you sided with during the coup. You will be the first to be sidelined. The only response is to strike first, and launch another coup against your former allies.

Then you start coup proofing your regime: create a secret police, Republican Guard, army, navy, air force, regular police, border guard and customs etc. Pay them well, promote your truecel friends/family members. Establish a rubber stamp parliament of trucels to give legitimacy to your actions.

And an independent Republic of Incelistan is born. Now you just open your borders to truecel immigration and you begin the government sanctioned distribution of any slut that still remains on your territory.

Now just step back and watch as volcels take control and hijack everything for their own benefit. And you realise your goal of an Incelistan has failed.

Reccomended reading:
  1. Anything on Russia's doctrine of hybrid/new age/unconventional warfare, and its operations in Donestk and Crimea. Also check out their policy objectives in Georgia/South Ossetia/Transistria etc.
  2. All volumes of the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. This will teach your how to maintain power. A love of gore will help dehumanise you and make you immune to the use of violence - it will help if you have a passion for hurting your enemies.
  3. A Savage War of Peace by Alistair Horne - it is a fucking textbook on the inherent problems encountered when rebelling against the central government.
  4. Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook by Edward Luttwak. This is the go to book on planning your coup. But as an incel without any military experience, it is better to hand the planning over to your disgruntled friends in the army, with whose help you plan to seize power. Be lavish in your promises of money/power/property that they will receive after they seize power. Don't get too close cos you'll have to kill them eventually. Link to book: https://truthscooper.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/108765924-luttwak-1969-coup-d-etat-libre.pdf
  5. There are heaps of US Army guides on if you are after a specific one, ask me. I have every guide under the sun on a hard drive.
  6. Anything on the Iraqi Insurgency and other coups/conflicts/rebellions.
Let's get a genuine discussion going. How would you fellow incels seize power, and what would you do to remain in power?

PS. ASIO/AFP/QPS/ASIS this is entirely theoretical.

P.S. sorry to you lowattentionspancels, just fucking read it.
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yeshuallah

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It would require the use of car bombs against police stations (this is to eliminate any one who can oppose the coup); a decapitation raid on the parliament/s and police command to destroy their decision making (and command and control) capabilities; seizure of media stations (newspapers, radios, tv stations), post offices, banks, transport hubs (airprts, bus stations, air ports, ferry terminals), universities to show that the coup plotters are in control.
now this is epic
 
Salustio

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Men are OK, womben too. The beta rebellion must be different. The final goal is to replace womben with AI driven bots.
 
IncelKing

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Chaos is a laddER
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I have a lot of ideas, but if I just spoke about them publicly ahead of time, then government organizations could prepare for them and render them moot, ther eis no full proof plan, talking about it if you plan on trying to make it happen, is just foolish
yes, never reveal your motive. High IQ
 
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