[Serious] Bring back the anachronistic diagnosis of "autistic psychopathy"

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Us autistic celibates need every status halo that we can get, and I posit that if we are properly understood as being psychopathic again, rather than effeminate soys who "stim" to consumer trinkets by jumping up and down (or even worse: trannies who cut off our own dicks), then people will fear us and thus respect us, and foids will naturally fuck us.

We must stop the mental health establishment, as guided by the desires of the preening mothers of autistic children, from promoting the myth that "autistic men are no more likely to commit crimes than neurotypical men, and are even less likely to commit them." This stigmatizes us as high-inhib pussies who are not even good enough for betabuxxing. Because anybody who lives an autistic life and does not give thought to crime must therefore be a masochistic slave worthy only of contempt, and if it's said that this is true of most autists, then we are consequently degraded as a whole in the popular consciousness.

The related myth that "there are just as many autistic women as autistic men" must also be stopped for similar reasons.


This is our culture:

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Executing one's mother and then going lone wolf is what it means to be autistic; not becoming a eunuch tranny, nor stimming to Star Wars action figures or anime figurines. And don't forget it, normgroids!
 
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i get what you mean but "autistic psychopathy" is an oxymoron, those two concepts are diametrically opposed
 
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i get what you mean but "autistic psychopathy" is an oxymoron, those two concepts are diametrically opposed
They need not be.

The term psychopathy merely suggests that one's psyche is pathological, and if there is no chance of establishing a eugenics program in which contemporaneously-understood psychopathic traits alone are eliminated (i.e. frat Chads and thug Tyrones), as enforced by an autistic aristocracy, which is my ideal, then we might as well join sides with the most brutish and tactless sorts of psychopaths ngl.
 
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Darktriadmaxx only work for chad. The rest just rot in prison and get ass raped every other day.
 
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Darktriadmaxx only work for chad. The rest just rot in prison and get ass raped every other day.
Cope. Dark triad maxxing is the only way for low-tier normies to slay, and the category of low-tier normie is what an autistic male subjected to the worst cruelties of the world (not a NEET) is necessarily reduced to.

Low-tier normies are substance abuser types who commit property crimes and molest their underage female relatives, who then become cockslaves to them for the rest of their lives (it's not necessarily incestuous because of divorce culture). This is a viable evolutionary strategy that we are all but being forced to adopt tbh.
 
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Most autistic males are passive and beta, even more than normies, i guess it comes with a certain innocence due to the brain being wired differently and experiencing/seeing the world in a different way than NT normies. Going ER wouldn't change a thing, we would just make more inkwell = bad in the news.
 
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This is what people should associate autism with:

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Also, all women with “autism” are only attention whores. Just ignore them.
 
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Most autistic males are passive and beta, even more than normies, i guess it comes with a certain innocence due to the brain being wired differently and experiencing/seeing the world in a different way than NT normies. Going ER wouldn't change a thing, we would just make more inkwell = bad in the news.
When I was a young child and playing in my backyard, the neighbor's little dog would bark at me, so I would throw pebbles at it in response, and might have escalated this tendency to throwing larger rocks at it and ultimately killing it and then mutilating it.

That is, if not for the intervention of the neighbors, two women (perhaps a lesbian couple), who notified my father. I was severely disciplined by my father for my budding, alpha, autistic psychopathy, and this doubtlessly contributed to my avoidant behaviors.

All for whose benefit? I certainly can't get laid and pass on his genes after he helped make me into a pussy.
 
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I was severely disciplined by my father
Incel fathers cucking their own sons, while chad gets raised by a single mother harlot who encourages his destructive tendencies and provides him with her hole as a reward for his psychopathy.
 
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i get what you mean but "autistic psychopathy" is an oxymoron, those two concepts are diametrically opposed
Exactly,

Normal = has empathy, shows empathy (not necessarily showing what they have ,they may fake empathy and hide the real empathy).
Sociopath = neither has nor can fake empathy. Turn into killers at worst and are just unlikable at best. Kind of on our side kind of not because not their fault and they're not dishonest assholes like normals (they can't be).
Autist = Has empathy, can't show it. This is fucking torture for so many reasons.
Psychopath = Has no empathy, can show it. Good fakers and very dangerous, even more so than normals. Fucking hate autists and abuse them a lot because psychos are the strongest and autists the weakest.

I used to mix up the definitions for psycho and socio by the way. Also many autists who have become cold due to mistreatment think they are socio but they still have empathy.

OP, while I agree with your sentiment the truth is autistic people are not psychopaths nor sociopaths. We can't really kill for shit, same as any incel, we're weak and emotional and easily turned off or overpowered. To deny this is to deny reality, but I don't want to become another bluepill beta either.

There's no point trying to status max as psycho chad because part of chad's qualities are chad behaviours (redpill shit which is allowed and enchanced by good looks). No autists has chad behaviour and most of us don't have looks too - hell there's probably a genetic reason why, some thread here says autism shows in the face. I'm not good looking but I'm good enough to get random girls to give me a look - but the moment they smell the weird they run the fuck away - even if I do a great job hiding it they can still tell just as most people can except maybe other weirdos. So chad personality is legit from my experience.

It would be better if we were simply socially accepted, but normies are stuck in their ways socially, they are the shit-tier of neurodiversity. (Akin to "Jews", "blacks" "women" and "boomers" but I don't go by these slurs). Normies will not change for us, and that is why we have no hope unless we can somehow change them directly ourselves or convince big powers to do so (not gonna happen either way). They also have the gall and attitude to think they have the right to not be changed when they actively discriminate against us, and to be who they are as is (bigoted and exclusionary). Bigots don't have rights beyond a right to life and basic needs until they change their ways. Let's see how long it takes normies to change for autists versus all those other groups I just listed - boomers are turning out to be a struggle.
 
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Incel fathers cucking their own sons, while chad gets raised by a single mother harlot who encourages his destructive tendencies and provides him with her hole as a reward for his psychopathy.
The bad childhoods that autistic males inevitably experience as a consequence of estrangement from their peers should naturally be conducive to the development of antisocial ("alpha") personalities, if not for the pernicious interventions of paternal figures, who act not in the interests of the children, but in the interests of soyciety at large, which wants to pacify and subdue them.

Here's a case study which demonstrates this:

Jack’s early history was very tumultuous. He lived in a family with alcoholic parents and four older siblings. Incidents of abuse and neglect were reported to child protective services by neighbors and school authorities. Jack’s older brother was removed from the home when Jack was 3 years old, something that troubled him greatly. Shortly after that, his father left the family. When he was 3.5 years of age, Jack ended up being placed in a series of foster homes. During the 2 years that Jack was in foster care, his mother received intensive therapy to help her with her alcohol and drug addiction, support for her underlying depression, and guidance on how to parent her children in healthier ways. During the time that Jack was in foster care, he was shuttled between three different homes because his foster parents could not manage his aggressive behavior. He lashed out at the other foster children, biting and hitting them, and frequently roamed the house, pulling things from drawers and cabinets. Sometimes he regressed to rocking behavior on the floor, humming and grabbing his cheeks to self-soothe.

By the time Jack was 6 years old, he returned to his biological mother and began individual psychotherapy. His therapist noticed that he had very little eye contact and had a very flat, but hostile affect. Attempts to engage him in conversation were met with monosyllabic responses. Sometimes he engaged in inappropriate laughter and thrilled on stories about terrorism and violence. He was consumed with play and drawing pictures about people getting killed or blown up. He played these aggressive stories obsessively and delighted in the violent deaths that he depicted in play or drawings. His therapist found it extremely difficult to tolerate his aggressive discharge, but more so his inability to process any feelings for the victims in his storylines. His aloof, hostile, and aggressive presentation seemed to be his way to prevent connection with others.

After about a year of Jack being in individual therapy, he joined a social skills group that I led. His individual therapist hoped that this might help Jack to build connections with peers and to learn more prosocial behaviors. Jack preferred to play alone in the group setting and often remained on the outskirts of the group. It was very difficult to woo him into group activities. I frequently designed activities that required the boys to work in teams to do things like build a city out of found objects, or construct a story with props about aliens and earthlings. Jack usually stood off by himself, hummed, and remained quiet unless facilitated to join the play. The other kids in the group were quite put off by Jack’s violent talk and hostile demeanor. One boy in particular would confront him by saying things like, “What is the matter with you?! Don’t you care about anybody in this world?!” We did a share time in the group each week when children would bring in an interesting story to report, or would show something they had created. During the share times, Jack would look blankly at the boys. When it was his turn to share, he would reply, “I have nothing to share” even if facilitated with interesting questions to prompt him.

Jack always had a sour look on his face and was very negative about everything, even positive, fun activities. He remained isolated at home and school, preferring to be by himself. He had little sense of humor and remained preoccupied with violence through the school years. When the terrorist attacks of September 11th occurred, he said, “I wish I could have done that—been the one who blew up those buildings.” When his mother or other kids approached him to play, he would respond with “I don’t care if you play with me,” or “I hate you.” The only time that others could engage him in play was when the activities were very concrete and involved watching or enacting crashing of airplanes or cars, or building something and demolishing it at the end.

OP, while I agree with your sentiment the truth is autistic people are not psychopaths nor sociopaths. We can't really kill for shit, same as any incel, we're weak and emotional and easily turned off or overpowered. To deny this is to deny reality, but I don't want to become another bluepill beta either.

Autistic males are very capable of narcissism and thus sadism and violence -- although rooted in neuroticism and repressed masochism, and not extroversion and grandiosity like with psychopathic Chads.
 
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Autistic males are very capable of narcissism and thus sadism and violence -- although rooted in neuroticism and repressed masochism, and not extroversion and grandiosity like with psychopathic Chads.
Masochism is the desire to hurt yourself for pleasure. Autists typically feel the desire to hurt themselves because society makes them think they're worthless.
 
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This is what people should associate autism with:

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This actually used to be what autism was associated with. Ded srs:

In the past, autists were considered dark and handsome Chads relative to those with childhood schizophrenia, who were considered pale uggos who lacked jawlines:

Rimland describes autistic children as “almost invariably in excellent health, beautiful and well formed, and usually of dark complexion” (as opposed to those with childhood schizophrenia, whom he portrays as having blond hair and blue eyes, translucent skin, a receding chin, and “an almost foetus-like appearance”).
Coincidence? I think not. Being perceived as psychopathic and being perceived as Chad correlates.
 
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The media already pushes non-stop that all incels are cold blooded murderers and rapists but we still get no respect.
What makes you think that the media pushing that autists are psychos will do them any better?
 
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The media already pushes non-stop that all incels are cold blooded murderers and rapists but we still get no respect.
What makes you think that the media pushing that autists are psychos will do them any better?
Cope. Incels are only in the popular consciousness to begin with because of the stigma of violence that's been attached to us.

Indeed, IncelTears only cares so much about us because they project the qualities of psychopathic and narcissistic Chads onto us. If we were mere "loveshys," nobody would give a single shit.

You have things backwards, and it reminds me of a recent thread:


If we tie things together with the recent BBC riots, the "synthesis" that's clearly required for respect is a combination between violence and sympathy, as encapsulated by the idea that criminal thugs like Mike Brown and George Floyd were "gentle giants" (JFL).

I have written about this dynamic myself:

What enabled the Russian Revolution to succeed so spectacularly? All the terrorist actions/assassinations of the revolutionary left, or its closely coordinated strikes and coups? It was both, of course, but ultimately the latter, and you need to lay solid groundwork in order to reach a stage where social transformation through collective action is possible.
 
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You are coping with Dark Triad theory.

Women only like dark triad men who are already good looking, if they find out some ugly ass incel they know is a psychopath, they will find it "creepy". It's only "hot" when you look like Richard Ramirez.
 
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We can't really kill for shit, same as any incel, we're weak and emotional and easily turned off or overpowered. To deny this is to deny reality, but I don't want to become another bluepill beta either.
To be fair i would be 100% able to go ER on foids who don't respect low status men and brag about that
I'm not good looking but I'm good enough to get random girls to give me a look - but the moment they smell the weird they run the fuck away - even if I do a great job hiding it they can still tell just as most people can except maybe other weirdos.
100% same for me
 
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You are coping with Dark Triad theory.

Women only like dark triad men who are already good looking, if they find out some ugly ass incel they know is a psychopath, they will find it "creepy". It's only "hot" when you look like Richard Ramirez.
This simply isn't true. Violence halos anyone.

Although good looks always have a multiplier effect, it's not like ugly/autistic men who go ER, for example, don't receive a significant increase in SMV:

It's true that psychopathy and narcissism are typically correlates of being good-looking, but they do raise SMV by themselves.

Consider the case of Elliot Rodger. He was a nice guy with zero SMV, but his ensuant narcissism led to an explosion of rage which posthumously raised his SMV. He had fangirls obsessing over his corpse, which is more than any of us can boast about.

The Fragile-X Goblin, Nikolas Cruz, has received mountains of love letters in prison. Even the truecel David Berkowitz, the Son of Sam, received his share of love letters after serial killing women. And his quotes could've come out of Elliot Rodger's manifesto:

"I must slay women for revenge purposes to get back at them for all the suffering they have caused me."
"The tension, the desire to kill a woman had built up in such explosive proportions that when I finally pulled the trigger, all the pressures, all the tensions, all the hatred, had just vanished, dissipated, but only for a short time."

The personalitypill is real, and the trick for an incel is to leverage his "bad personality" in such a way that he can enjoy its fruits.
It's just a matter of being violent without getting into major trouble and compromising your own intentions for status/attention.

One clearly need a combination between tact and violence, aggression and sympathy, in order to succeed, whether individually or organizationally.

If you're too sympathetic, out of meekness, then people will not care about you.

If you're too violent, out of anger, then people will oppose you.

But it's easier said than done to achieve an "ideal balance," and with regard to rioting BBCs, it's the positive propaganda, or "advertising," of the (((media-industrial complex))) which lays the groundwork of making Black thugs seem sympathetic.

On the other hand, while negative propaganda, or "slander," against people (such as Trump) sometimes backfires, this isn't reliable as a strategy, and you need clout to begin with in order for it to work.
 
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This simply isn't true. Violence halos anyone.

Although good looks always have a multiplier effect, it's not like ugly/autistic men who go ER, for example, don't receive a significant increase in SMV:



It's just a matter of being violent without getting into major trouble and compromising your own intentions for status/attention.

One clearly need a combination between tact and violence, aggression and sympathy, in order to succeed, whether individually or organizationally.

If you're too sympathetic, out of meekness, then people will not care about you.

If you're too violent, out of anger, then people will oppose you.

But it's easier said than done to achieve an "ideal balance," and with regard to rioting BBCs, it's the positive propaganda, or "advertising," of the (((media-industrial complex))) which does the footwork of making Black thugs seem sympathetic.

On the other hand, while negative propaganda, or "slander," against people (such as Trump) sometimes backfires, this isn't a reliable strategy, and you need clout to begin with in order for it to work.
ER didn't get fangirls because he was a murderer, he did it because he got status, he became notorious and everyone knows these things make girls want to fuck, not because they are attracted to the man himself, but because they want the spotlight, its for the same reason they want to fuck popular singers, actors, etc.

If you want girls to fuck you for your status, then that does not mean you need to get it by becoming a criminal.
 
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ER didn't get fangirls because he was a murderer, he did it because he got status, he became notorious and everyone knows these things make girls want to fuck, not because they are attracted to the man himself, but because they want the spotlight, its for the same reason they want to fuck popular singers, actors, etc.

If you want girls to fuck you for your status, then that does not mean you need to get it by becoming a criminal.
Violence is the most primitive and thus the most effective way of obtaining status.

Sex itself is a violent act, and the sexual moans of women are evolutionarily meant to alert nearby males to intervene and fight each other for the right of insemination (sperm competition).

My point is that violence can either make you famous or infamous, and if you're too infamous, like a mass-shooter in prison or in a coffin, your status will do nothing for you and simply work against you. This has implications for social movements and collectives as a whole.
 
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Violence is the most primitive and thus the most effective way of obtaining status.

Sex itself is a violent act, and the sexual moans of women are evolutionarily meant to alert nearby males to intervene and fight each other for the right of insemination (sperm competition).

My point is that violence can either make you famous or infamous, and if you're too infamous, like a mass-shooter in prison or in a coffin, your status will do nothing for you and simply work against you. This has implications for social movements and collectives as a whole.
Violence is the most messy and unreliable way of getting status. And could backfire in a million different ways.
 
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Violence is the most messy and unreliable way of getting status. And could backfire in a million different ways.
Again, tell that to the BBCs who are rioting yet have the entire (((media-industrial complex))) apologizing for them.

Even the right-wing media does not dare to blame BBCs, and are scapegoating antifa for Black violence just as the Blacks themselves scapegoat the police :feelskek:
 
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Again, tell that to the BBCs who are rioting yet have the entire (((media-industrial complex))) apologizing for them.

Even the right-wing media does not dare to blame BBCs, and are scapegoating antifa for Black violence just as the Blacks themselves scapegoat the police :feelskek:
Go behave like a nigger, then. Put things on fire, punch people. etc. enjoy Chad life.
Tyrones never had to throw a single punch
 
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Go behave like a nigger, then. Put things on fire, punch people. etc. enjoy Chad life.
Tyrones never had to throw a single punch
Complete cope. Tyrones are fashioned and molded by violence from the time of their early childhoods.

What I'm attempting to communicate to you is that violence is not this prohibitory thing that's completely ineffectual. Clearly, it is necessary ingredient for change, but cannot be overdone.

Gandhi could not have succeeded if he were not based in the violent context of WWII, which brought down the British Empire.

Martin Luther King, for his part, was a psychopath following in the tradition of Father Divine, who enjoyed rape and sexual promiscuity (these things are related, and the rape or "violation" of a woman as such is rooted in "violence").
 
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When I was a young child and playing in my backyard, the neighbor's little dog would bark at me, so I would throw pebbles at it in response, and might have escalated this tendency to throwing larger rocks at it and ultimately killing it and then mutilating it.

That is, if not for the intervention of the neighbors, two women (perhaps a lesbian couple), who notified my father. I was severely disciplined by my father for my budding, alpha, autistic psychopathy, and this doubtlessly contributed to my avoidant behaviors.

All for whose benefit? I certainly can't get laid and pass on his genes after he helped make me into a pussy.
Your posts are good material.

Exactly,

Normal = has empathy, shows empathy (not necessarily showing what they have ,they may fake empathy and hide the real empathy).
Sociopath = neither has nor can fake empathy. Turn into killers at worst and are just unlikable at best. Kind of on our side kind of not because not their fault and they're not dishonest assholes like normals (they can't be).
Autist = Has empathy, can't show it. This is fucking torture for so many reasons.
Psychopath = Has no empathy, can show it. Good fakers and very dangerous, even more so than normals. Fucking hate autists and abuse them a lot because psychos are the strongest and autists the weakest.

I used to mix up the definitions for psycho and socio by the way. Also many autists who have become cold due to mistreatment think they are socio but they still have empathy.

OP, while I agree with your sentiment the truth is autistic people are not psychopaths nor sociopaths. We can't really kill for shit, same as any incel, we're weak and emotional and easily turned off or overpowered. To deny this is to deny reality, but I don't want to become another bluepill beta either.

There's no point trying to status max as psycho chad because part of chad's qualities are chad behaviours (redpill shit which is allowed and enchanced by good looks). No autists has chad behaviour and most of us don't have looks too - hell there's probably a genetic reason why, some thread here says autism shows in the face. I'm not good looking but I'm good enough to get random girls to give me a look - but the moment they smell the weird they run the fuck away - even if I do a great job hiding it they can still tell just as most people can except maybe other weirdos. So chad personality is legit from my experience.

It would be better if we were simply socially accepted, but normies are stuck in their ways socially, they are the shit-tier of neurodiversity. (Akin to "Jews", "blacks" "women" and "boomers" but I don't go by these slurs). Normies will not change for us, and that is why we have no hope unless we can somehow change them directly ourselves or convince big powers to do so (not gonna happen either way). They also have the gall and attitude to think they have the right to not be changed when they actively discriminate against us, and to be who they are as is (bigoted and exclusionary). Bigots don't have rights beyond a right to life and basic needs until they change their ways. Let's see how long it takes normies to change for autists versus all those other groups I just listed - boomers are turning out to be a struggle.
You're also a good poster.
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Complete cope. Tyrones are fashioned and molded by violence from the time of their early childhoods.

What I'm attempting to communicate to you is that violence is not this prohibitory thing that's completely ineffectual. Clearly, it is necessary ingredient for change, but cannot be overdone.

Gandhi could not have succeeded if he were not based in the violent context of WWII, which brought down the British Empire.

Martin Luther King, for his part, was a psychopath following in the tradition of Father Divine, who enjoyed rape and sexual promiscuity (these things are related, and the rape or "violation" of a woman as such is rooted in "violence").
Like I already said, if your theory about being violent brings pussy to incels is true, then just go be violent and then come back here to show us how wrong we are at thinking inceldom is about genetics.
 
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The media already pushes non-stop that all incels are cold blooded murderers and rapists but we still get no respect.
What makes you think that the media pushing that autists are psychos will do them any better?
That we are *ugly* *short* or *limp-dicked* cold blooded murderers and rapists.
Their equality by birth is applied selectively and not to those three groups.
Those kinds are laughable and scary, not enthralling and new. Everyone has an ugly friend, they're just either a liability or a toy.
If we were known only as dangerous, maybe. But that's not the case and with every passing sassy-ass person calling us limp-dick or other grade-school insults, we aren't getting anywhere. These people are too primitive to reason with, leave alone change emotionally.
 
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That we are *ugly* *short* or *limp-dicked* cold blooded murderers and rapists.
Their equality by birth is applied selectively and not to those three groups.
Those kinds are laughable and scary, not enthralling and new. Everyone has an ugly friend, they're just either a liability or a toy.
If we were known only as dangerous, maybe. But that's not the case and with every passing sassy-ass person calling us limp-dick or other grade-school insults, we aren't getting anywhere. These people are too primitive to reason with, leave alone change emotionally.
Exactly. There is no point being seen as violent if you are also seen as short, ugly and having a small dick.

This is what Dark Triad copers don't understand, that being GL is a requisite to being taken seriously, even if you murder someone else.
 
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Exactly. There is no point being seen as violent if you are also seen as short, ugly and having a small dick.
Tell that to this guy:

This is what Dark Triad copers don't understand, that being GL is a requisite to being taken seriously, even if you murder someone else.
Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in a basement for 24 years, received hundreds of love letters from women following his arrest. He is not good looking. Sadly for him, Austria does not allow conjugal visits, so he can't meet any of them.

Women only like dark triad men who are already good looking, if they find out some ugly ass incel they know is a psychopath, they will find it "creepy". It's only "hot" when you look like Richard Ramirez.
There is evidence that criminals are more sexually successful on average than non-criminals. Most criminals are average looking at best, so it's not necessarily their looks that are causing them to be more successful with women.

Violent criminals tend to have personality traits that women have evolved to value in men. Psychopathy and other dark-triad personality traits can compensate for bad looks to some extent. Women with hybristophilia have an especially strong preference for dark triad men and will often date them even if they're not good looking.
 
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