[Discussion] Can you be an incel if you're just fat?

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Like if that's the only thing holding you back? I'm trying to understand fatcels, but I'm drawing a blank if that's the only ailment they have, if they are truly incel. I'm a chubbo, but not obese. Even if I lost weight, I have a ton of other irredeemable shit wrong with me.
 
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You're a fakecel if the cause of your inceldom is something you can change.
 
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Unless you're obese then its highest form of volcel. I'm fat but I don't really care about losing it because I'd still have deep structural problems, it'd only raise me like 1/2 a point.
 
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I fat only in past years, and that is result of inceldom, not cause. Was skinnyy in teen years, not fat later too
 
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Your genes determine your weight and metabolism, if you are fat or skinny, there is nothing you can do about it, I eat a lot and still am a skinny subhuman, I also know fat guys who do not eat a lot and are still fat. It's all in the genes.
 
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just eat less theory
It's not even less, you can be vegan and eat more, and you would lose weight.

It's sugar, oil, salt, meat, diary what's causing Westerners to gain so much weight.
 
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Why would you allow yourself to be fat if you want a girlfriend? It’s hyper competitive out there, you should be improving everything about yourself that you can. If you are short or ugly, then it’s over. If you are just fat, it’s time to looksmax.
 
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fatcel = volcel
under fat can be great bones
 
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Here's my official stance on the fatcel issue: If you have never, at least once in your adult life, been below 15% body fat -- preferably closer to 10-12% -- you don't truly know how your body or face look at an optimal level of leanness, and you don't have the clearest picture of what your facial bone structure is like, so you can't say with absolute certainty that you're subhuman and it's over for you. So if this is the case for you, and you don't have a severe deformity like sub 66-inch height, you're volcel in all due practicality, and you should put the fork down before you start complaining about how bad you have it.

Your genes determine your weight and metabolism, if you are fat or skinny, there is nothing you can do about it, I eat a lot and still am a skinny subhuman, I also know fat guys who do not eat a lot and are still fat. It's all in the genes.
A lot of fat guys eat in private because they're afraid to eat in front of other people but are still addicted to food. Just because you don't see them eat like pigs doesn't mean they don't eat like pigs.
 
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Why would you allow yourself to be fat if you want a girlfriend? It’s hyper competitive out there, you should be improving everything about yourself that you can. If you are short or ugly, then it’s over. If you are just fat, it’s time to looksmax.
Competing so hard for a whore just to be cucked is one of the most self-degrading things you can do as a man
 
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Competing so hard for a whore just to be cucked is one of the most self-degrading things you can do as a man
I agree, but you can’t really claim you are incel if you aren’t trying.
 
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I've talked to women and gotten rejected and I've noticed that they usually dont want to talk to me, must be my bad personality.
Well, if you are short and fat, I imagine they don’t want to talk to you.
 
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Lose fat to see what you look like, not every fat guy has Chad bones under his blubber, I mean Jarren from subway would be a fucking incel, but we all know he had sex with a prime jb girl.
 
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If losing weight were as easy as you make it sound, nobody would be fat
 
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No, unless you were trying to get girls when you were skinny and you failed horribly at it.
 
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Fatcel = volcel. This has been discussed many times
 
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no, unless you know that you have subhuman face under all that fat
 
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Your genes determine your weight and metabolism, if you are fat or skinny, there is nothing you can do about it, I eat a lot and still am a skinny subhuman, I also know fat guys who do not eat a lot and are still fat. It's all in the genes.
Basically this, except that those genetic factors are mostly hormone levels which being fat affects in a feedback loop. Many fatcels are in a negative pattern of excess fapping, bad diet, and what you said about lack of motivation:

Competing so hard for a whore just to be cucked is one of the most self-degrading things you can do as a man
The problem isn't so much fat men, it's that there's too many fat foids. Only about 25% of women under 30 are of a healthy weight. Since the range of men who pursue women under 30 extend at least up to men aged 40, and assuming demographics numbers that are roughly the same at each age bracket, there's at step one a 2-to-1 gender imbalance giving women twice as many options as men their same age. The considering the weight problem of 75% of women under 30, you're looking at a slim 20-something having an 8-to-1 advantage in choosing a mate.

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the only way a fatcel who is only fat could be incel is if he had some legit medical reason for not loosing weight (with the rare exception of legit extreme binge eating disorder though the amount of fatasses with this is very few, though even then he could hypothetically get treatment for this such as pills). If its just because he eats too much its pretty much just volceldom.
Your genes determine your weight and metabolism, if you are fat or skinny, there is nothing you can do about it, I eat a lot and still am a skinny subhuman, I also know fat guys who do not eat a lot and are still fat. It's all in the genes.
a lot of fat fucks don't eat a lot but eat high calorie foods. They do things like cover it in gravies or drink a lot of alcohol or soda. While weight is somewhat genetic you can always control it by eating less calorie heavy foods or just less food in general. I can assure you if they anorexiamaxxed they would be thin. Also, it really depends on how much heavier. Some people genetically are prone to being like 5 to 10 lbs heavier than average but they wont be 50 or 60lbs heavier without some type of shit diet.
 
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a lot of fat fucks don't eat a lot but eat high calorie foods. They do things like cover it in gravies or drink a lot of alcohol or soda.
I know a guy who keeps a normal weight just by making water the only beverage he consumes. I'm fat in part because I like 1 tablespoon of sugar in my 3 cups of coffee a day. That's the equivalent sugar of drinking a can of regular Coca Cola every day. I also like fruit juices, which contain a lot of sugar. That means I have about 200 excess calories of sugar a day. If I just stopped consuming those and did nothing else, I'd drop a pound, 3500 calories, every 18 days. Meaning I could lose 20lbs in a year just by drinking my coffee black and plain.

But like truthpill said, Idgf enough about foids to do even that (and I have other problems anyway).
 
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Like if that's the only thing holding you back? I'm trying to understand fatcels, but I'm drawing a blank if that's the only ailment they have, if they are truly incel. I'm a chubbo, but not obese. Even if I lost weight, I have a ton of other irredeemable shit wrong with me.
I wouldn’t say so. I know tons of overweight people with incredible genetics or height that still look decent.
 
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I know a guy who keeps a normal weight just by making water the only beverage he consumes. I'm fat in part because I like 1 tablespoon of sugar in my 3 cups of coffee a day. That's the equivalent sugar of drinking a can of regular Coca Cola every day. I also like fruit juices, which contain a lot of sugar. That means I have about 200 excess calories of sugar a day. If I just stopped consuming those and did nothing else, I'd drop a pound, 3500 calories, every 18 days. Meaning I could lose 20lbs in a year just by drinking my coffee black and plain.

But like truthpill said, Idgf enough about foids to do even that (and I have other problems anyway).

Shit man, I have about 9 cups of tea or coffee a day with 1/2 teaspoon of sugar and milk. My milk go's down quick (like 1 litre a day nearly).

Should I just cut this out my diet and lose weight without needing to do heavy weight sessions?
 
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Shit man, I have about 9 cups of tea or coffee a day with 1/2 teaspoon of sugar and milk. My milk go's down quick (like 1 litre a day nearly).

Should I just cut this out my diet and lose weight without needing to do heavy weight sessions?
Cutting back would help you lose fat faster. The weight training will raise your testosterone levels over time, which will improve your calorie burning at rest (I think this is called your "MET" or "metabolic equivalent of task").

I know that sometimes it's hard to have the energy to work out without caffeine though. When I was gymaxxing I used ECA (ephedra, caffine, aspirin) to get a "boost" to be able to lift hard.
 
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People who are genetically thin think they have all the answers because they are thin. So whatever they are doing must be right.

People who are genetically fat must be doing the wrong things because they are fat.

Trying to convince someone who is thin that they aren't In control of their body is basically an ego hit to them. They want to think they work harder than anyone else so they are rewarded for it. It comes easy to them and they can't understand what it like to be fat. So they just assume fat people are secretly eating themselves fat when nobody is looking.

We've known for decades body weight is heritable from parents. That is why you see fat families and thin families.

But Arch doesn't that mean they teach each other their eating habits?

When a baby is adopted into a family, they have tracked the weight of their birth parents and compared it to the weight of their adopted parents. Lo and behold the baby grows up to have a greater correlation of body weight to their birth parents and not their adoptive parents.

They also track identical twins who weren't raised together from birth. They always end up looking like each other, weight included.

People just like feeling Superior to other people.

Body weight is not in control as much as people claim it is.

Science has proven it, but there is a billion dollar industry trying to convince you otherwise.
 
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Yes, if you’re the usual things too - ugly, short etc

A lot of fatcels are just truecels who gave up on being healthy.
 
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I'm obese but I have a round face, narrow mandible, melting eye area, and I'm bald.

I look extremely intimidating/scary and almost undead.

Most people avoid me like the plague and visibly fear me in public

No going back from this
 
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People who are genetically thin think they have all the answers because they are thin. So whatever they are doing must be right.

People who are genetically fat must be doing the wrong things because they are fat.

Trying to convince someone who is thin that they aren't In control of their body is basically an ego hit to them. They want to think they work harder than anyone else so they are rewarded for it. It comes easy to them and they can't understand what it like to be fat. So they just assume fat people are secretly eating themselves fat when nobody is looking.

We've known for decades body weight is heritable from parents. That is why you see fat families and thin families.

But Arch doesn't that mean they teach each other their eating habits?

When a baby is adopted into a family, they have tracked the weight of their birth parents and compared it to the weight of their adopted parents. Lo and behold the baby grows up to have a greater correlation of body weight to their birth parents and not their adoptive parents.

They also track identical twins who weren't raised together from birth. They always end up looking like each other, weight included.

People just like feeling Superior to other people.

Body weight is not in control as much as people claim it is.

Science has proven it, but there is a billion dollar industry trying to convince you otherwise.
All my family is obese but me. I was fat since child for all the trash food i got. Only when i went low calories food i got skinny.

Being fat for genetics is a meme, just don't eat trash and you will be fine.
 
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I know a guy who keeps a normal weight just by making water the only beverage he consumes. I'm fat in part because I like 1 tablespoon of sugar in my 3 cups of coffee a day. That's the equivalent sugar of drinking a can of regular Coca Cola every day. I also like fruit juices, which contain a lot of sugar. That means I have about 200 excess calories of sugar a day. If I just stopped consuming those and did nothing else, I'd drop a pound, 3500 calories, every 18 days. Meaning I could lose 20lbs in a year just by drinking my coffee black and plain.

But like truthpill said, Idgf enough about foids to do even that (and I have other problems anyway).
Zero-calorie sweeteners are a lifesaver. I toss them in everything. Oatmeal, tea, coffee, a ton of things, and my waist is tiny. If I used an equivalent amount of table sugar, I'd looks like the Pillsbury dough boy.
 
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You're a fakecel if the cause of your inceldom is something you can change.
Just improve yourself for a fat landwhale theory, if you are not chad in 2019 its over, you are coping too hard boyo
 
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Not by itself. If you're fat on topic of being autistic, manlet, ethnic, then losing weight won't increase your smv by much. Also if you're tall and fat, your height will make you look thinner than you are. I'm an example of it. You won't know I'm fat unless you see me shirtless.

Nonetheless, foids aren't worth losing weight over, I just cope. Also the fact that men have to lose weight while foids can be landwhales shows how skewed the sexual marketplace is.
 
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Fatcel = Volcel, Fatcel = Volcel, Fatcel = Volcel, Fatcel = Volcel, Fatcel = Volcel, Fatcel = Volcel.
 
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People who are genetically thin think they have all the answers because they are thin. So whatever they are doing must be right.

People who are genetically fat must be doing the wrong things because they are fat.

Trying to convince someone who is thin that they aren't In control of their body is basically an ego hit to them. They want to think they work harder than anyone else so they are rewarded for it. It comes easy to them and they can't understand what it like to be fat. So they just assume fat people are secretly eating themselves fat when nobody is looking.

We've known for decades body weight is heritable from parents. That is why you see fat families and thin families.

But Arch doesn't that mean they teach each other their eating habits?

When a baby is adopted into a family, they have tracked the weight of their birth parents and compared it to the weight of their adopted parents. Lo and behold the baby grows up to have a greater correlation of body weight to their birth parents and not their adoptive parents.

They also track identical twins who weren't raised together from birth. They always end up looking like each other, weight included.

People just like feeling Superior to other people.

Body weight is not in control as much as people claim it is.

Science has proven it, but there is a billion dollar industry trying to convince you otherwise.
Half-truth!

If you've been born with more fat cells and your body can produce fat cells easier than thin people, yes, it will be easier to get fat, but you still need a caloric surplus to fill those fat cells and even more calories to create more!

Also, in a caloric deficit, you will lose fat no matter what, you can say that these fat people will be more hungry all the time and thin people will not, and that is true, so, yes, genetics can play a major role but anyone with enough willpower can become thin!
 
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Zero-calorie sweeteners are a lifesaver. I toss them in everything. Oatmeal, tea, coffee, a ton of things, and my waist is tiny. If I used an equivalent amount of table sugar, I'd looks like the Pillsbury dough boy.
just get a cancer theory
 
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Half-truth!

If you've been born with more fat cells and your body can produce fat cells easier than thin people, yes, it will be easier to get fat, but you still need a caloric surplus to fill those fat cells and even more calories to create more!

Also, in a caloric deficit, you will lose fat no matter what, you can say that these fat people will be more hungry all the time and thin people will not, and that is true, so, yes, genetics can play a major role but anyone with enough willpower can become thin!
Absolutely. The body is an energy system that needs a certain continuous energy intake to maintain mass. Lower energy intake means lower maintainable mass. To say otherwise would be to deny basic science.

just get a cancer theory
The studies haven't shown a definitive link between artificial sweeteners and cancer, but they have shown definitive links between obesity and hypertension, stroke, coronary heart disease, and type 2 diabetes. I'll take a "might but probably won't kill you in the long run" over "most definitely will kill you in the long run and make your life even more shitty now than it already is" any day of the week.
 
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Absolutely. The body is an energy system that needs a certain continuous energy intake to maintain mass. Lower energy intake means lower maintainable mass. To say otherwise would be to deny basic science.


The studies haven't shown a definitive link between artificial sweeteners and cancer, but they have shown definitive links between obesity and hypertension, stroke, coronary heart disease, and type 2 diabetes. I'll take a "might but probably won't kill you in the long run" over "most definitely will kill you in the long run and make your life even more shitty now than it already is" any day of the week.
From what i've found Inositol may be better than both sugar and artificial sweeteners since it's made by body every day it's about 50% sweet compared to sugar/sweeteners it does improves insulin resistance, lowers cholesterol, lowers anxiety, ocd and depression. So ideal stuff for boarmaxxxed fatcel incel who wants to lose/keep stable weight and still want to eat something sweet.
 
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Half-truth!

If you've been born with more fat cells and your body can produce fat cells easier than thin people, yes, it will be easier to get fat, but you still need a caloric surplus to fill those fat cells and even more calories to create more!

Also, in a caloric deficit, you will lose fat no matter what, you can say that these fat people will be more hungry all the time and thin people will not, and that is true, so, yes, genetics can play a major role but anyone with enough willpower can become thin!
So how come the adoption studies don't show this?
If losing weight were as easy as you make it sound, nobody would be fat
Exactly. It would be the dumbest choice ever.

Nobody loves food that much.
 
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So how come the adoption studies don't show this?
Never heard of this adoption study but I could swear it is methodological flawed!

Take a look how asians can get fat fast in the US and how anyone on Auschwitz or in a Gulag was thin as fuck! You need calories to get fat, dense caloric foods are ready-available and cheap today, that's why most people will not tolerate to be hungry for months to come just to be thin. It takes time to burn that fat and your brain wants to release dopamine with super dense caloric foods, your reward circuit will try to sabotage your diet many times during the day!

Obese people, after a month or two, they will be hungry all the time because of leptin and other hormones, so their brains will go nuts, but if they manage to persevere, they will lose a lot of weight, but once again, with so much bad food available, most people will never endure this kind of torture, you need willpower and discipline.
 
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I'm trying to understand fatcels, but I'm drawing a blank if that's the only ailment they have
Many incels will go fat after realizing they have no chance. It is not that they are incel because they are fat but they are fat because they are incel. Some of those are the truest of truecels.
 
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You're a fakecel if the cause of your inceldom is something you can change.
Hence why I made a post stating the majority of "incels" are fakecels because you can change just about anything.
 
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