[Serious] Coping With Being Genetic Trash

RageAgainstTDL

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You lost the genetic lottery. If you're here, your problems are likely some combo of the following:
  • Short
  • Ethnic
  • Ugly
  • Autistic
  • Incurably depressed/anxious/schizo
  • Dumb
  • Poor
Women are genetic filters. Eugenic filters. Their entire evolutionary purpose is to sift through the men, find the high quality ones, and bear their babies. How much can you really fault them for doing exactly what nature designed them for? They're running on a primordial operating system that is bigger and older than any of our pain.

So what can you? I don't have any particularly unique solutions, but it's been something I've been thinking about a lot. I took some time off from the forum because I wanted to bury myself in some of these strategies and see how things could go. In my experience, you can definitely cope if you work hard enough.

Antidepressants
These will take a lot of the edge off. I've said on here many times I like St. John's Wort. Equally effective as prescription meds in studies but with fewer side effects and no prescription needed. I take 300 mg and I usually just take 2-3 tablets the days I feel very low. I find it works pretty quick and gets me out of those deep tunnels of despair you can fall into where you don't even want to move or get up and just wish you would die. It brightens things up and I find I can enjoy things with it despite the lows. Nowadays I only take it maybe 10-15% of my days because I'm pretty good. Strongly recommended and a legit cope.

The absolute meaning of life can be defined as one of two things: In a broad sense, reproduction, if you think the continuation of the species is primary. If you believe your personal experience of life is primary, then the meaning of life is your happiness, however you get it. If a tablet can give it to you, and you feel it truly, then it is no less real than happiness from any other source and it is winning. Don't be afraid to make your life easier in this way if you are struggling. It really can help.

Looksmaxing
Part of the reason I also took some time off is surgery has improved my appearance to perhaps a low tier normie level, from previously a gutter tier level. This has given me an immense amount of peace which is indescribable. There is no feeling like improving your appearance if your appearance is your limiting factor. Everything just gets easier. You feel more relaxed. Less self conscious. People smile at you more. They trust you more. They are happy to interact with you. Looks make such a huge difference in how people treat you. If you have something obvious you can fix and don't do it, you are sabotaging everything.

In my opinion the most legit surgeries are generally: jaw surgery, nose jobs, hair surgery, jaw implants, chin implants and genio, infraorbital rim implants, New Eyes Laser eye color change. Some things simply aren't fixable by surgery. Eg. narrow spaced eyes. I have many unfixable features so I can never be handsome. But even just rising to a 4/10 or so will change your life completely if you are starting much lower than that. One major defect fixed can bump you 1-2 points. The most important thing to be sure of is that it truly is a defect and not just an autistic obsession with 1-2 mm asymmetry or something stupid like that. If it's really something wrong with your face, and you can fix it without complications, you will consider it one of the best things to ever happen to you.

Building muscles and having nice clothes/style are the other obvious looksmaxes. I still struggle with muscle building but I am continuously trying. Very few men have six packs in 2019. If you can get one it will undeniably help.

Work/Hobbies
Men have coped forever with stress and bad lives by burying themselves in their work. eg. Even normal guys with families frequently stay at the office until 8 PM because they don't want to go home to their nagging wives and bratty kids. Some of the greatest scientists have been smart spergs like Tesla who ignored humanity and focused on their pursuits instead.

It is not actually important that you be excellent at it. If you actually don't care about impressing anyone, because you realize you never will, or it does not matter, then being good is actually irrelevant. All that matters is passing the time in a way that engages you until your life expires. I have a capacity to bury myself in projects and ideas for entire days and weeks at a time constantly. If you can do this, it really takes your mind off everything else, and suddenly weeks or months pass. Maybe you even get some pleasure out of setting a target and meeting it. Or if it's work, you may enjoy having more money disposable for your usage.

VR Porn
In 2019 we have by far the best porn experiences ever known to mankind. VR porn, eg. Samsung Gear, is so immersive you can almost see and hear everything a Chad would on his best day, despite being a subhuman. If anything it's almost too immersive. While it's wonderful to get a taste for that life and understand what you're missing, on the other hand, it can also be kind of sad when the goggles come off and you just realized what you're missing. You will wish you can live in the goggles forever. This is thus a double edged sword, but I think every incel or late life virgin ought to try this at least 10-20 times. It changes your perspective completely, because it almost feels like you have partly lived the experiences you've seen.

Hookers would be the obvious next step up but I never personally have done this due to fear of disease, disdain for the concept of giving women hundreds of dollars just to tolerate me for 15 minutes, illegality, and knowing that I will not enjoy watching them try to pretend they're not repulsed by me. But if you can enjoy it, go for it.

Not Necessarily Giving Up
Lastly, if you don't want to quite give up, there are some logical reasons to continue trying basically forever. Men are eliminated from contention with women through progressive cuts. Some women reject you for your height. Some more reject you for your race. Some more for your autism. Some more for being poor. As you go down through all the cuts, you eventually see you might only have 1% of women or less who might EVER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE consider dating or having sex with you. But no matter what, as low as it goes, it is likely not 0%.

We all exist on a spectrum of attractiveness and it is not fully black and white. Unless you are a legit 0/10 (ie. half your face missing), there is likely some girl out there who would date you. Unfortunately, she might be fat and ugly too. Maybe you're lucky and she's average looking. Either way, she probably does exist somewhere. Chad will find 80% of women want to fuck him (the last 20% being too intimidated). But for you it might be 1% or 0.1% or 0.01% or 0.001%. Chad can then hit on 2 girls to get laid. You might have to hit on 100. Or 1000. Or 10000.

If you are basically a mentalcel with a decent face, your best approach is online dating. You can sit there morning to night swiping and spamming every girl on every site within driving range for months or years on end. If you are an uglycel with a decent personality, your best approach is cold approach. Cold approach is hard as fuck but at least it forces people to talk to you which might allow you to demonstrate personality. If you are both ugly and mental, either approach is fine because both are going to be equally hard for you.

This is not intended to be a sugar coated perspective. It is a simple realization that rejection or acceptance by women is a game of probabilities. The probability is set by your total SMV. The lower your SMV, the more number of approaches you have to do to have any chance of success. A lower probability can theoretically be offset by a higher number of attempts. This only becomes false once you are spending every minute of your day approaching or you have approached all the women in your city and can simply do no more.

We have all encountered cherry picked photos of decent seeming women dating gutter tier men. Some of these men have no legs/arms or are dwarves, etc. but some women still fuck them. How does this happen? Reflect back to what I said about women being genetic filters. Just like some of us get designed wrong to end up this way, some women are born with faulty filters. They are not repulsed by short men. They don't notice facial asymmetries. They aren't racist. They don't mind quiet guys who don't talk much. etc.

This is not a "virtue" of these women. They are quite honestly defective, just as we are. They just happen to be defective in a way that suits our problems. This is rare in the same way as being incel has traditionally been rare. Nature has to really fuck up to create a woman like that just like it has to fuck up to create a man like us. The challenge is, in addition to the fact that these women are rare, you would still be competing against normal men for these women, because for example, if a woman does not hate short men, she will be able to date both short and tall men, and thus have an even bigger dating pool than an average woman.

The existence of these filterless women implies that if you truly want to succeed, it may be possible through sufficient numbers. You will just need massive endurance and dedication with a realistic assessment of your odds and what it will take. So if you're not the type to give up, don't. Keep trying if it suits you. Personally I'm not the type to give up. I always have some scheme. Eg. Right now, I'm gonna try to gain another 10 lb and then try again.

At this point I understand that what I want is likely unattainable for me (thin attractive girl), but I also understand that even if I just have the delusion of hope, and that keeps me going, then I am winning, because if it keeps me happy and productive, either way, I am always getting older and closer to death. One day it will simply be over, and if I have enjoyed my copes and pursuing the things I dream of, I don't see how I could look back and wish I had done different or tried harder.

For my own part, I likely won't be posting here much longer, though I had to come back now as I missed so many things about this place and the people here. I also want to complete some work on summarizing the blackpill for the wiki which I've been negligent on. But in the long run, I have decided I will spend the rest of my days pursuing some combo of the above, as that is the only hope I have of a decent life that suits me. It's not been too bad the last few months. I hope whatever you're looking for, you can find a way to get some version of that too. Or some sense of peace and purpose at least.
 
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Emergency Manual

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Hitler should have won and made sure all of our families were genetically purged. It’s too cruel to allow us subhumans to live and compete in a capitalistic dating market.
 
LiterallyASoyboy

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One day it will simply be over, and if I have enjoyed my copes and pursuing the things I dream of, I don't see how I could look back and wish I had done different or tried harder.
That's probably a good way of looking at it. Another thing is, I don't believe looking back and thinking "if only I had done things this way" makes sense, nor is it fair to yourself. If things could've turned out differently, they would've, hindsight is a retrospective delusion.
 
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AsiaCel

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Wow you're back, I haven't seen you so long man.
 
VirginAutistManlet

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How is VR porn? I has tons of autismbux saved with nothing to spend it on
 
LittleBoy

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Welcome back OP. Always good to read your threads.
 
HarvesterOfInceldom

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You lost the genetic lottery. If you're here, your problems are likely some combo of the following:
  • Short
  • Ethnic
  • Ugly
  • Autistic
  • Incurably depressed/anxious/schizo
  • Dumb
  • Poor
Women are genetic filters. Eugenic filters. Their entire evolutionary purpose is to sift through the men, find the high quality ones, and bear their babies. How much can you really fault them for doing exactly what nature designed them for? They're running on a primordial operating system that is bigger and older than any of our pain.

So what can you? I don't have any particularly unique solutions, but it's been something I've been thinking about a lot. I took some time off from the forum because I wanted to bury myself in some of these strategies and see how things could go. In my experience, you can definitely cope if you work hard enough.

Antidepressants
These will take a lot of the edge off. I've said on here many times I like St. John's Wort. Equally effective as prescription meds in studies but with fewer side effects and no prescription needed. I take 300 mg and I usually just take 2-3 tablets the days I feel very low. I find it works pretty quick and gets me out of those deep tunnels of despair you can fall into where you don't even want to move or get up and just wish you would die. It brightens things up and I find I can enjoy things with it despite the lows. Nowadays I only take it maybe 10-15% of my days because I'm pretty good. Strongly recommended and a legit cope.

The absolute meaning of life can be defined as one of two things: In a broad sense, reproduction, if you think the continuation of the species is primary. If you believe your personal experience of life is primary, then the meaning of life is your happiness, however you get it. If a tablet can give it to you, and you feel it truly, then it is no less real than happiness from any other source and it is winning. Don't be afraid to make your life easier in this way if you are struggling. It really can help.

Looksmaxing
Part of the reason I also took some time off is surgery has improved my appearance to perhaps a low tier normie level, from previously a gutter tier level. This has given me an immense amount of peace which is indescribable. There is no feeling like improving your appearance if your appearance is your limiting factor. Everything just gets easier. You feel more relaxed. Less self conscious. People smile at you more. They trust you more. They are happy to interact with you. Looks make such a huge difference in how people treat you. If you have something obvious you can fix and don't do it, you are sabotaging everything.

In my opinion the most legit surgeries are generally: jaw surgery, nose jobs, hair surgery, jaw implants, chin implants and genio, infraorbital rim implants, New Eyes Laser eye color change. Some things simply aren't fixable by surgery. Eg. narrow spaced eyes. I have many unfixable features so I can never be handsome. But even just rising to a 4/10 or so will change your life completely if you are starting much lower than that. One major defect fixed can bump you 1-2 points. The most important thing to be sure of is that it truly is a defect and not just an autistic obsession with 1-2 mm asymmetry or something stupid like that. If it's really something wrong with your face, and you can fix it without complications, you will consider it one of the best things to ever happen to you.

Building muscles and having nice clothes/style are the other obvious looksmaxes. I still struggle with muscle building but I am continuously trying. Very few men have six packs in 2019. If you can get one it will undeniably help.

Work/Hobbies
Men have coped forever with stress and bad lives by burying themselves in their work. eg. Even normal guys with families frequently stay at the office until 8 PM because they don't want to go home to their nagging wives and bratty kids. Some of the greatest scientists have been smart spergs like Tesla who ignored humanity and focused on their pursuits instead.

It is not actually important that you be excellent at it. If you actually don't care about impressing anyone, because you realize you never will, or it does not matter, then being good is actually irrelevant. All that matters is passing the time in a way that engages you until your life expires. I have a capacity to bury myself in projects and ideas for entire days and weeks at a time constantly. If you can do this, it really takes your mind off everything else, and suddenly weeks or months pass. Maybe you even get some pleasure out of setting a target and meeting it. Or if it's work, you may enjoy having more money disposable for your usage.

VR Porn
In 2019 we have by far the best porn experiences ever known to mankind. VR porn, eg. Samsung Gear, is so immersive you can almost see and hear everything a Chad would on his best day, despite being a subhuman. If anything it's almost too immersive. While it's wonderful to get a taste for that life and understand what you're missing, on the other hand, it can also be kind of sad when the goggles come off and you just realized what you're missing. You will wish you can live in the goggles forever. This is thus a double edged sword, but I think every incel or late life virgin ought to try this at least 10-20 times. It changes your perspective completely, because it almost feels like you have partly lived the experiences you've seen.

Hookers would be the obvious next step up but I never personally have done this due to fear of disease, disdain for the concept of giving women hundreds of dollars just to tolerate me for 15 minutes, illegality, and knowing that I will not enjoy watching them try to pretend they're not repulsed by me. But if you can enjoy it, go for it.

Not Necessarily Giving Up
Lastly, if you don't want to quite give up, there are some logical reasons to continue trying basically forever. Men are eliminated from contention with women through progressive cuts. Some women reject you for your height. Some more reject you for your race. Some more for your autism. Some more for being poor. As you go down through all the cuts, you eventually see you might only have 1% of women or less who might EVER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE consider dating or having sex with you. But no matter what, as low as it goes, it is likely not 0%.

We all exist on a spectrum of attractiveness and it is not fully black and white. Unless you are a legit 0/10 (ie. half your face missing), there is likely some girl out there who would date you. Unfortunately, she might be fat and ugly too. Maybe you're lucky and she's average looking. Either way, she probably does exist somewhere. Chad will find 80% of women want to fuck him (the last 20% being too intimidated). But for you it might be 1% or 0.1% or 0.01% or 0.001%. Chad can then hit on 2 girls to get laid. You might have to hit on 100. Or 1000. Or 10000.

If you are basically a mentalcel with a decent face, your best approach is online dating. You can sit there morning to night swiping and spamming every girl on every site within driving range for months or years on end. If you are an uglycel with a decent personality, your best approach is cold approach. Cold approach is hard as fuck but at least it forces people to talk to you which might allow you to demonstrate personality. If you are both ugly and mental, either approach is fine because both are going to be equally hard for you.

This is not intended to be a sugar coated perspective. It is a simple realization that rejection or acceptance by women is a game of probabilities. The probability is set by your total SMV. The lower your SMV, the more number of approaches you have to do to have any chance of success. A lower probability can theoretically be offset by a higher number of attempts. This only becomes false once you are spending every minute of your day approaching or you have approached all the women in your city and can simply do no more.

We have all encountered cherry picked photos of decent seeming women dating gutter tier men. Some of these men have no legs/arms or are dwarves, etc. but some women still fuck them. How does this happen? Reflect back to what I said about women being genetic filters. Just like some of us get designed wrong to end up this way, some women are born with faulty filters. They are not repulsed by short men. They don't notice facial asymmetries. They aren't racist. They don't mind quiet guys who don't talk much. etc.

This is not a "virtue" of these women. They are quite honestly defective, just as we are. They just happen to be defective in a way that suits our problems. This is rare in the same way as being incel has traditionally been rare. Nature has to really fuck up to create a woman like that just like it has to fuck up to create a man like us. The challenge is, in addition to the fact that these women are rare, you would still be competing against normal men for these women, because for example, if a woman does not hate short men, she will be able to date both short and tall men, and thus have an even bigger dating pool than an average woman.

The existence of these filterless women implies that if you truly want to succeed, it may be possible through sufficient numbers. You will just need massive endurance and dedication with a realistic assessment of your odds and what it will take. So if you're not the type to give up, don't. Keep trying if it suits you. Personally I'm not the type to give up. I always have some scheme. Eg. Right now, I'm gonna try to gain another 10 lb and then try again.

At this point I understand that what I want is likely unattainable for me (thin attractive girl), but I also understand that even if I just have the delusion of hope, and that keeps me going, then I am winning, because if it keeps me happy and productive, either way, I am always getting older and closer to death. One day it will simply be over, and if I have enjoyed my copes and pursuing the things I dream of, I don't see how I could look back and wish I had done different or tried harder.

For my own part, I likely won't be posting here much longer, though I had to come back now as I missed so many things about this place and the people here. I also want to complete some work on summarizing the blackpill for the wiki which I've been negligent on. But in the long run, I have decided I will spend the rest of my days pursuing some combo of the above, as that is the only hope I have of a decent life that suits me. It's not been too bad the last few months. I hope whatever you're looking for, you can find a way to get some version of that too. Or some sense of peace and purpose at least.
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Damo the incel

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Welcome back, @angrycurrycel missed you
 
EyesAreSoCold

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Women are genetic filters. Eugenic filters. Their entire evolutionary purpose is to sift through the men, find the high quality ones, and bear their babies. How much can you really fault them for doing exactly what nature designed them for? They're running on a primordial operating system that is bigger and older than any of our pain.
One of your first premises of your lengthy treatise is IMO wrong, I think it's wrong to let women be as uncivilized as they feel like but for some reason just expect men to be some supportive upholder of society. It's just the same as if we all would go out on a rape and killing spree in accordance to our primordial operating system and just expect society to be okay with it.

I know that I could never turn away from that injustice and completely submerge myself in cope, but all in all it's a fair list and I also think it's good to always try to live life to its fullest even for us, good luck with it.
 
investigatorcel

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I like this copeMAXX post
 
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One of your first premises of your lengthy treatise is IMO wrong, I think it's wrong to let women be as uncivilized as they feel like but for some reason just expect men to be some supportive upholder of society. It's just the same as if we all would go out on a rape and killing spree in accordance to our primordial operating system and just expect society to be okay with it.

I know that I could never turn away from that injustice and completely submerge myself in cope, but all in all it's a fair list and I also think it's good to always try to live life to its fullest even for us, good luck with it.
Lol even if we could go out kill and rape, its not worth it, I refuse to have to constantly look over my back, some men might kill me or brutally injure me at anytime to take my foid.
Not worth it.

I think women who slut around all their life live unfulfilling lives in the end, whats unfair is that foid could cheat on their husbands and divorce him and take half his shit.

Other than that they are already ruining themselves by sleeping around, I just dont see how a foid could live a fulfilling life by just sucking chads dick until shes 50yo...sucking one mens dick is awful enough, sucking multiple d would eventually fuck them up in the head. Eventually them sleeping around corrupts their physical and mental health. They would never be truly happy.

Sex to foid isnt like what it is to us. Eventually the fact that chad keep fucking and dumping them will scar them.
 
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ReasonableResolver

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Lastly, if you don't want to quite give up, there are some logical reasons to continue trying basically forever. Men are eliminated from contention with women through progressive cuts. Some women reject you for your height. Some more reject you for your race. Some more for your autism. Some more for being poor. As you go down through all the cuts, you eventually see you might only have 1% of women or less who might EVER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE consider dating or having sex with you. But no matter what, as low as it goes, it is likely not 0%.
When the coping is too strong
 
Napoleon de Geso

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Femoids shitty filters. Dumb but good looking fuckboy has big worth for them , while he really is biggest genetic trash
 
Hikikomori

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I only wish there was a good cope for schizophrenia. Haven't really found any yet, other then hiding in my bedroom and taking my meds on time. :feelsbadman:
 
GeneticDysfunction

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One of your first premises of your lengthy treatise is IMO wrong, I think it's wrong to let women be as uncivilized as they feel like but for some reason just expect men to be some supportive upholder of society. It's just the same as if we all would go out on a rape and killing spree in accordance to our primordial operating system and just expect society to be okay with it.

I know that I could never turn away from that injustice and completely submerge myself in cope, but all in all it's a fair list and I also think it's good to always try to live life to its fullest even for us, good luck with it.
Nope, women are goddesses, men are slaves. Fucking entire society is cucked.
 
Emba

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Brutal hopium pill.
 
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