Discussion Did the Celts really live in swamps?

[Deleted member 30682]

Today I found this meme:

It seems like Roman historian Cassius Dio claimed that the Celts of northern Britain lived off roots and bark, and were capable of surviving for days on end in swamps with only their heads above water.

Is this true? I find it hard to believe tbh

Tagging history buffs: @Lebensmüder @BummerDrummer @Copexodius Maximus @HidekiTojota (it seems like you're more interested in the military aspects of history but maybe you can add a sarcastic comment or something)

 

[Deleted member 23712]

I wouldn’t know

 

[Darkenzo]

They probably had some kind of Druidic ritual where they would swim around in the swamp to renew their lifeforce or something and the Romans saw that and assumed that's how they live all the time.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

They probably had some kind of Druidic ritual where they would swim around in the swamp to renew their lifeforce or something and the Romans saw that and assumed that's how they live all the time.

Makes sense

 

[Lebensmüder]

Today I found this meme:
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It seems like Roman historian Cassius Dio claimed that the Celts of northern Britain lived off roots and bark, and were capable of surviving for days on end in swamps with only their heads above water.

Is this true? I find it hard to believe tbh

Tagging history buffs: @Lebensmüder @BummerDrummer @Copexodius Maximus @HidekiTojota (it seems like you're more interested in the military aspects of history but maybe you can add a sarcastic comment or something)

Sounds very hard to believe. But the Romans very often told that about people who they wanted to subjugate. It should always be taken with a grain of salt especially when it's overtly negative or positive, for example Tacitus idealized Germania once, because he wanted Romans to adopt their "customs" which were probably exaggerated in virtue and whitewashed to give the Romans whose virtues were in decay at that time a positive example, Caesar however introduced us to a figure like Critognatus in De Bello Gallico who was a living reminder for the need for imperialism (he deliberately gave him a speech about the evils of Roman Imperialism where suggested that they should cannibalize each other just to remain free therefore automatically refuting the prior critique points just by guilt by association). Romans and the people they conquered always had a very difficult relationship (a mixture of admiration, but also a notion of cultural superiority), but at that time the Mediterranean culture was indeed most likely superior to that of Northerners when it comes to known historical advancements. Not a life in the swamps or a life in the own shit, but still no comparison to Rome (at least judging from historical findings).

 

[Deleted member 21752]

They probably had some kind of Druidic ritual where they would swim around in the swamp to renew their lifeforce or something and the Romans saw that and assumed that's how they live all the time.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Sounds very hard to believe. But the Romans very often told that about people who they wanted to subjugate. It should always be taken with a grain of salt especially when it's overtly negative or positive, for example Tacitus idealized Germania once, because he wanted Romans to adopt their "customs" which were probably exaggerated in virtue and whitewashed to give the Romans whose virtues were in decay at that time a positive example, Caesar however introduced us to a figure like Critognatus in De Bello Gallico who was a living reminder for the need for imperialism (he deliberately gave him a speech about the evils of Roman Imperialism where suggested that they should cannibalize each other just to remain free therefore automatically refuting the prior critique points just by guilt by association). Romans and the people they conquered always had a very difficult relationship (a mixture of admiration, but also a notion of cultural superiority), but at that time the Mediterranean culture was indeed most likely superior to that of Northerners when it comes to known historical advancements. Not a life in the swamps or a life in the own shit, but still no comparison to Rome (at least judging from historical findings).

Good reply ngl

 

[Deleted member 20139]

Swamps are very rare in the British isles

 

[Darkenzo]

Makes sense

Or it could have been they stuck people in the swamp as a form of execution and they didn't particularly want to be in there. That's the kind of thing people did. The Celts didn't write anything so we don't really know what they were up to.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ORjD1iX8g

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Or it could have been they stuck people in the swamp as a form of execution and they didn't particularly want to be in there. That's the kind of thing people did. The Celts didn't write anything so we don't really know what they were up to.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ORjD1iX8g

I think there's no historical records from the middle east about scaphism being used as a form of execution by the Persian empire but I'm sure that it has happened somewhere since there's no way of torture imaginable that hasn't taken place in this hellish world

Btw poor eunuch

 

[Lebensmüder]

Good reply ngl

Roman history is most of the time not really discernible from fiction, most of the time fiction/facts merge with each other. Roman history texts have the accuracy of a modern movie like 300. Somewhere there is truth in it, but it was twisted for sensationalist purposes until it was unrecognizable.

 

[Darkenzo]

I think there's no historical records from the middle east about scaphism being used as a form of execution by the Persian empire but I'm sure that it has happened somewhere since there's no way of torture imaginable that hasn't taken place in this hellish world

Btw poor eunuch

An example of what I thinking may have been going on if he only saw their heads above the water and they seemed to stay in there trying to eat what they could.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

An example of what I thinking may have been going on if he only saw their heads above the water and they seemed to stay in there trying to eat what they could.

Maybe. Tho it looks like too much unecesary work for tribal people.

 

[Darkenzo]

Maybe. Tho it looks like too much unecesary work for tribal people.

Well that's Flash Gordon but they could weave a net or make a small wooden cage tied to the bottom of the swamp with rope. After a few weeks they will be looking for roots and bits of bark to eat. Romans see them and think that's a lifestyle choice.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Well that's Flash Gordon but they could weave a net or make a small wooden cage tied to the bottom of the swamp with rope. After a few weeks they will be looking for roots and bits of bark to eat. Romans see them and think that's a lifestyle choice.

Yeah it makes sense.

 

[Emba]

Swamps are very rare in the British isles

I sell swamp by seashore! Y buy swamp? Good price! Yes!

 

[Darkenzo]

Swamps were common in the British isles before they all got drained.

Naturally some of the Celtic tribes living near those areas would do a Flash Gordon.

 

[TheReaper]

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Swamps were common in the British isles before they all got drained.

Naturally some of the Celtic tribes living near those areas would do a Flash Gordon.

@hikicel

 

[Deleted member 19971]

It seems like Roman historian Cassius Dio claimed that the Celts of northern Britain lived off roots and bark, and were capable of surviving for days on end in swamps with only their heads above water.

I’m not knowledge at all about this period but i’ve seen the meme before and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true. Compare Med civilizations to Celtic, Frankish and Germanic civilizations at that time, it’s comparable to when the Europeans first met the Sub Saharan African tribes

 

[VindalooCell]

Roman history is most of the time not really discernible from fiction, most of the time fiction/facts merge with each other. Roman history texts have the accuracy of a modern movie like 300. Somewhere there is truth in it, but it was twisted for sensationalist purposes until it was unrecognizable.

It is hard enough to separate fact from fiction for events that happened last week in the political cycle, never mind events of circa 2000 years ago.

A good article on this for your reading please, runs at 7,000 words

How Fake is Roman Antiquity?

This is the first of a series of three articles challenging the conventional historical framework of the Mediterranean world from the Roman Empire to the Crusades. It is a collective contribution to an old debate that has gained new momentum in recent decades in the fringe of the academic world...

www.unz.com

 

[Deleted member 30682]

I’m not knowledge at all about this period but i’ve seen the meme before and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true. Compare Med civilizations to Celtic, Frankish and Germanic civilizations at that time, it’s comparable to when the Europeans first met the Sub Saharan African tribes

Yeah, but the idea of them being capable of spending days in swamps like that as if it was something normal seems too incredible imo. They would evolve into frogs or something

It is hard enough to separate fact from fiction for events that happened last week in the political cycle, never mind events of circa 2000 years ago.

A good article on this for your reading please, runs at 7,000 words

How Fake is Roman Antiquity?

This is the first of a series of three articles challenging the conventional historical framework of the Mediterranean world from the Roman Empire to the Crusades. It is a collective contribution to an old debate that has gained new momentum in recent decades in the fringe of the academic world...

www.unz.com

Thanks, I'll read it.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

I saw that meme the other day and found this

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/7nun0x/they_are_the_most_ignorant_people_i_have_ever/

So basically some nigger made it up to make themselves feel better about being a nigger and to hate on YT

Well the fact remains that the romans saw the celtic britons as barbarian savages. Also they didn't have a written language, and were one of the most isolated groups of people in europe, so they were indeed illiterate and and ignorant.

The quote by Cassius Dio wasn't made up.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

Yes celts were brain dead retards. The Irish comes from moorish Iberians (blacks) which is why an Irishman and a black persons skull is similar, and also why Irish people weren’t considered white until very recently

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Today I found this meme:
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It seems like Roman historian Cassius Dio claimed that the Celts of northern Britain lived off roots and bark, and were capable of surviving for days on end in swamps with only their heads above water.

Is this true? I find it hard to believe tbh

Tagging history buffs: @Lebensmüder @BummerDrummer @Copexodius Maximus @HidekiTojota (it seems like you're more interested in the military aspects of history but maybe you can add a sarcastic comment or something)

Little did they know that the anglos would conquer the world in 2000 years.

 

[wasted12years]

I like the Gauls/Celts. They were cool and more based than the romans.

 

[Pitar62]

and were capable of surviving for days on end in swamps with only their heads above water.

How did they sleep?

 

[Deleted member 24081]

Yes celts were brain dead retards. The Irish comes from moorish Iberians (blacks) which is why an Irishman and a black persons skull is similar, and also why Irish people weren’t considered white until very recently

No they don’t, they come from Dutch Bell Beaker folk, the same as the Britons. Genetically, the Irish cluster together with other Northern European peoples.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

No they don’t, they come from Dutch Bell Beaker folk, the same as the Britons. Genetically, the Irish cluster together with other Northern European peoples.

 

[Deleted member 24081]

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Anglo propaganda. I’ve never met an Irishman who looks like that.

 

[Over_this_Life]

Sounds very hard to believe. But the Romans very often told that about people who they wanted to subjugate. It should always be taken with a grain of salt especially when it's overtly negative or positive, for example Tacitus idealized Germania once, because he wanted Romans to adopt their "customs" which were probably exaggerated in virtue and whitewashed to give the Romans whose virtues were in decay at that time a positive example, Caesar however introduced us to a figure like Critognatus in De Bello Gallico who was a living reminder for the need for imperialism (he deliberately gave him a speech about the evils of Roman Imperialism where suggested that they should cannibalize each other just to remain free therefore automatically refuting the prior critique points just by guilt by association). Romans and the people they conquered always had a very difficult relationship (a mixture of admiration, but also a notion of cultural superiority), but at that time the Mediterranean culture was indeed most likely superior to that of Northerners when it comes to known historical advancements. Not a life in the swamps or a life in the own shit, but still no comparison to Rome (at least judging from historical findings).

Aristotle on shrooms iq

 

[Deleted member 30682]

The Irish comes from moorish Iberians (blacks) which is why an Irishman and a black persons skull is similar

Sources?

I like the Gauls/Celts. They were cool and more based than the romans.

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Anyone that has the balls (literally) to fight in an ancient battle completely naked has my respect and admiration ngl

How did they sleep?

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Anglo propaganda. I’ve never met an Irishman who looks like that.

Irish versus English strife has been very real and goes back generations tbh

 

[Darkenzo]

I like the Gauls/Celts. They were cool and more based than the romans.

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King Arthur was a Celt as well even though he's 99.9% mythological.

Or he may have been a Romano British Celt.

 

[Deleted member 24081]

Irish versus English strife has been very real and goes back generations tbh

800+ years, although it’s sort of died down now. English people have no right to be in Ireland, and I’m English (though part Irish as well).

 

[Emba]

Drains me

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Yes celts were brain dead retards. The Irish comes from moorish Iberians (blacks) which is why an Irishman and a black persons skull is similar, and also why Irish people weren’t considered white until very recently

More than a few Irish people have also illegally come to live in the US tbh

Undocumented Irish in America: ‘Come in legit or stay at home’

US immigration officials begin a sweep on thousands of undocumented immigrants

www.irishtimes.com

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

More than a few Irish people have also illegally come to live in the US tbh

Undocumented Irish in America: ‘Come in legit or stay at home’

US immigration officials begin a sweep on thousands of undocumented immigrants

www.irishtimes.com

Yeah they are called the nigs of white people for a reason

 

[Deleted member 32431]

shrek was irish so yeah