[Discussion] Sexual trafficking is the real incel rebellion / beta uprising.

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(cucked disclaimer: everything below is just theoretical rambling, I’m a good boy who respects women, I promise)

TL;DR: The real incel rebellion is the constantly increasing sexual trafficking.


When I first heard of the concept of the incel rebellion my mind was immediately filled with apocalyptical scenes:

Gun wielding manlets would roam the streets, shooting everything that is female or cucked.
Communication and infrastructure would collapse, destroyed by disgruntled STEM- and wage´cels.
Emotionally dead gymcels would hunt down and strangle the life out of their former bullies and hoist the bodies from bridges and lamp poles while the bully’s former girlfriends tremble in fear and submissive arousal.
Army and Law Enforcement would be totally apathetic, unwilling to risk their lives just to defend the ungrateful masses who hate them anyway unless they need protection.

(side note: I’m writing this in the same room with my boss who is having a job interview with my next possible coworker, he thinks I’m working hard on our next medical software tool, this arouses me)

However, as cathartic and amusing such scenes would be (in Minecraft), as unlikely are they to actually happen, at least for now. The number of incels that actually realize their situation is yet too small. Too high is the inhibition. Too comfortable are the copes. And incels are too socially stunted to develop the necessary pack-mentality to coordinate such an endeavor.

For the foreseeable future, the incel rebellion will have to be content with small singular acts of hERoic resistance (which shall also only ever be realized in Minecraft).

But there is another way in which the consequences of rampant hypergamy and whoredome manifest themselves: …sexual trafficking.

About 70% of trafficking victims are female.
https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-human-trafficking

Human trafficking is taking on “horrific dimensions”, despite growing efforts, awareness and attention by government, human rights and feminist groups.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/01/1029912

Sexual trafficking, as an expression of the incel/beta rebellion, has several key differences in comparison to the scenario above:

-incredible difficult to counter
-no concerted effort necessary, just a hand full of low inhibit-individuals (don’t even have to be incels)
-social life and infrastructure stays intact, our copes are save
-low public awareness, no panicking normies

A textbook example of this scenario unfolding would be china, where the high gender imbalance leads to an ever increasing demand for sex slaves. And since such activity does not disturb the highly conformist society of china, this trend will only continue. I am willing to bet that the Chinese government is actually fine with sexual trafficking for the benefit of the countless supernumerary men as it keeps (the most aggressive of) them docile and averts the demographic crisis the country is heading into.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_China#Sex_Trafficking

(To be fair, the Chinese situation was mainly caused by the retarded one child policy but the result is the same as with female hypergamy: Men with no girlfriend/relationship/marriage/family prospects)


Some people, especially the fine gentlepeople at IT, might argue that women should be able to behave as they want (within the bounds of the law) without suffering the thread of sexual slavery.
For those people I would like to lay out the basic facts:

Men want sex/offspring. Women can provide this. Men are stronger than women. Harming something is way easier than defending something.

The rest is just social negotiation.
 
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If women really cared about stopping sexual trafficking then they would spread their legs for incels
 
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(cucked disclaimer: everything below is just theoretical rambling, I’m a good boy who respects women, I promise)

TL;DR: The real incel rebellion is the constantly increasing sexual trafficking.

About 70% of trafficking victims are female.
https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-human-trafficking
Where you err OP is that most "sex trafficking" is actually women voluntarily coming here to be whores, and then they just cry victim to avoid accountability for their actions to get preferential treatment.

Even though they were never kidnapped/enslaved, by falsely accusing their helpful pimps of doing this, they interfere with further influx of prostitutes to compete in their market.

You are just white-knighting for them OP. :soy:
 
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Hmm....why do I get a feeling you are another FBIcel? On top of that you have like 6 posts. Hmmm.....:feelswhere:

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If women really cared about stopping sexual trafficking then they would spread their legs for incels

What is more attractive to women:

A well behaved boring incel?
A low-inhibit darktriad criminal?

A lot of female oriented romance novels have a common theme: Being kidnapped/dominated by the pirate-viking-vampire-criminal.



Lol, I have been noticed by a certain Brazilian for the first time^^
 
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What is more attractive to women:

A well behaved boring incel?
A low-inhibit darktriad criminal?

A lot of female oriented romance novels have a common theme: Being kidnapped/dominated by the pirate-viking-vampire-criminal.

Lol, I have been noticed by a certain Brazilian for the first time^^
Do you think those human traffikking victims like it?
 
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Hmm....why do I get a feeling you are another FBIcel? On top of that you have like 6 posts. Hmmm.....:feelswhere:
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Yeah, odds are pretty fucking sky high that this is a provocateur. Not sure, if LE. Could some be reddit cuck looking for damning posts.

Who the fuck actually argues that sex trafficking is a good thing? And using the argument that the Chinese would do it, so it should be fine? GTFO here, faggot.
 
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Do you think those human traffikking victims like it?
(I am of course talking about the female portion of the trafficking victims)

I think they like the general idea until the reality of their situation hits them.

Getting attention and sex from a confident/dominant chad-“boyfriend” with criminal connections is certainly enjoyable for them. However they probably don’t enjoy it when the same “boyfriend” forces them to go with those strange men who just gave him a bundle of cash.

So no, they don’t enjoy it but they contribute to it with hypergamy and retarded preferences.

Men with no chance for female attention are infinitely more likely to engage in sexual trafficking be it as seller or buyer.
 
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(I am of course talking about the female portion of the trafficking victims)

I think they like the general idea until the reality of their situation hits them.

Getting attention and sex from a confident/dominant chad-“boyfriend” with criminal connections is certainly enjoyable for them. However they probably don’t enjoy it when the same “boyfriend” forces them to go with those strange men who just gave him a bundle of cash.

So no, they don’t enjoy it but they contribute to it with hypergamy and retarded preferences.

Men with no chance for female attention are infinitely more likely to engage in sexual trafficking be it as seller or buyer.
Exactly, so women who cry about prostitution because its human trafficking are contributing to the problem
 
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Where you err OP is that most "sex trafficking" is actually women voluntarily coming here to be whores, and then they just cry victim to avoid accountability for their actions to get preferential treatment.
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yeah but how many incels have connections to hardened gangs of foid kidnappers? just how would one get in touch with such an organization? :waitwhat: (hypothetically speaking :feelsokman:)
 
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Yeah, odds are pretty fucking sky high that this is a provocateur. Not sure, if LE. Could some be reddit cuck looking for damning posts.

Who the fuck actually argues that sex trafficking is a good thing? And using the argument that the Chinese would do it, so it should be fine? GTFO here, faggot.
My argument is that human trafficking (of women) is in huge part fueled by the short sighted choices that women make. It is a consequence of the broken societal contract.

Recognizing that is not an endorsement of it.
Exactly, so women who cry about prostitution because its human trafficking are contributing to the problem
If those women refuse to date their looksmatch, then I agree.
 
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Yeah, odds are pretty fucking sky high that this is a provocateur. Not sure, if LE. Could some be reddit cuck looking for damning posts.

Who the fuck actually argues that sex trafficking is a good thing? And using the argument that the Chinese would do it, so it should be fine? GTFO here, faggot.
Who is LE now?

Yeah it makes no sense that a incel is supporting trafficking. Also it's not like your average incel has mad connections with mafia who will provide you fresh whores we are shut-ins and autists lmao

Not to forget trafficking is something which is universally hated. Getting incels associated to trafficking means you could get everyone hating us. Why would we care about Chinese? This post doesn't even makes sense. It's not like trafficking is giving us a looksmatched virgin wife who loves us for who we are.

And what's with incel rebellion? No one is picking up guns or starting an underground crime network.

What is happening I think is this isn't false flag but they are seeing how much "radical" we can get. They can false flag way better than this. They are seeing how far are we ready to support illegal stuff. This seems like some sort of assessment to me. They want to know in future what are the chances we will turn violent or become criminals.

Imagine discord groups discussing how to smuggle yo yo :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek:
My argument is that human trafficking (of women) is in huge part fueled by the short sighted choices that women make. It is a consequence of the broken societal contract.

Recognizing that is not an endorsement of it.
Then what's up with that rebellion stuff? :waitwhat:
 
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My argument is that human trafficking (of women) is in huge part fueled by the short sighted choices that women make. It is a consequence of the broken societal contract.

Recognizing that is not an endorsement of it.
You see, this is where I call bullshit:

However, as cathartic and amusing such scenes would be (in Minecraft), as unlikely are they to actually happen, at least for now. The number of incels that actually realize their situation is yet too small. Too high is the inhibition. Too comfortable are the copes. And incels are too socially stunted to develop the necessary pack-mentality to coordinate such an endeavor.

For the foreseeable future, the incel rebellion will have to be content with small singular acts of hERoic resistance (which shall also only ever be realized in Minecraft)

But there is another way in which the consequences of rampant hypergamy and whoredome manifest themselves: …sexual trafficking.
So you're either trying to argue and say that sex trafficking is a form of rebellion, and thus, somehow justified, or you're trying to backpedal and not trip over your own bullshit by saying it's some symptom of inceldom.

Neither are true. Sex trafficking as a problem has absolutely nothing to do with inceldom. Inceldom is an emergent phenomenon of cultural changes supported by technological changes in the way communication and socio-sexual dynamics occur. In the age of Tinder, the human, as a potential for romantic interest, is completely disposble. Add in female nature and the rest is the Absolute State of Western Civilization.

Sex trafficking has to do with basic economics of sexual demand. Put that together with extremely rich and powerful people wanting to diddle kids and underage teenagers, and you have scumbags like Epstein who fill in a void in the black market.

You must be at least smart enough to realize that your provocations are as transparent as purified, filtered water. Oh wait, you must want hits for your blog.

tl;dr:
-Kill yourself.
 
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People against it even admit this... https://humantraffickinghotline.org/what-human-trafficking/myths-misconceptions

Myth: It’s always or usually a violent crime

  • Reality: By far the most pervasive myth about human trafficking is that it always - or often - involves kidnapping or otherwise physically forcing someone into a situation. In reality, most human traffickers use psychological means such as tricking, defrauding, manipulating or threatening victims into providing commercial sex or exploitative labor.
Large font for emphasis. In many (most?) cases, I expect there aren't any threats/trickery/fraud at all.

"Manipulation" is basically foid code-speak for "I want to avoid accountability for my choices".

IE they were "manipulated into sex" or "manipulated into murder" or "seduced" or "groomed", etc.
 
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You see, this is where I call bullshit:



So you're either trying to argue and say that sex trafficking is a form of rebellion, and thus, somehow justified, or you're trying to backpedal and not trip over your own bullshit by saying it's some symptom of inceldom.

Neither are true. Sex trafficking as a problem has absolutely nothing to do with inceldom. Inceldom is an emergent phenomenon of cultural changes supported by technological changes in the way communication and socio-sexual dynamics occur. In the age of Tinder, the human, as a potential for romantic interest, is completely disposble. Add in female nature and the rest is the Absolute State of Western Civilization.

Sex trafficking has to do with basic economics of sexual demand. Put that together with extremely rich and powerful people wanting to diddle kids and underage teenagers, and you have scumbags like Epstein who fill in a void in the black market.

You must be at least smart enough to realize that your provocations are as transparent as purified, filtered water. Oh wait, you must want hits for your blog.

tl;dr:
-Kill yourself.
Also notice that he heard the word beta uprising and the first thing that came in his mind exactly matches that of memey /r9k/ posts that I am pretty sure came much after the word "Beta uprising" or "Incel rebellion".
 
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Also notice that he heard the word beta uprising and the first thing that came in his mind exactly matches that of memey /r9k/ posts that I am pretty sure came much after the word "Beta uprising" or "Incel rebellion".
Good eye.
Who is LE now?
I meant that I'm not sure if OP is LE or IT or whatever.
 
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So you're either trying to argue and say that sex trafficking is a form of rebellion, and thus, somehow justified, or you're trying to backpedal and not trip over your own bullshit by saying it's some symptom of inceldom.
Both.

It is a form of rebellion insofar that the men who buy those women have stopped giving a shit about jestering for the consent of those women (the juice is no longer worth the squeeze) and instead go for Plan B.

I don’t give a shit if anyone thinks this is justified or not.

And the current exponential rise in sexual trafficking is 1000% connected to the rise of inceldom.
 
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People against it even admit this... https://humantraffickinghotline.org/what-human-trafficking/myths-misconceptions



Large font for emphasis. In many (most?) cases, I expect there aren't any threats/trickery/fraud at all.

"Manipulation" is basically foid code-speak for "I want to avoid accountability for my choices".

IE they were "manipulated into sex" or "manipulated into murder" or "seduced" or "groomed", etc.
Very based and correct. Foids avoid responsibility like they avoid ugly men.
 
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Is LE some like smegma or some another group?
Come on, brocel. It stands for law enforcement.
People against it even admit this... https://humantraffickinghotline.org/what-human-trafficking/myths-misconceptions



Large font for emphasis. In many (most?) cases, I expect there aren't any threats/trickery/fraud at all.

"Manipulation" is basically foid code-speak for "I want to avoid accountability for my choices".

IE they were "manipulated into sex" or "manipulated into murder" or "seduced" or "groomed", etc.
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Not to forget trafficking is something which is universally hated. Getting incels associated to trafficking means you could get everyone hating us. Why would we care about Chinese? This post doesn't even makes sense. It's not like trafficking is giving us a looksmatched virgin wife who loves us for who we are.
Yea, we should totally be careful to stay in the good graces of society….

The Chinese situation is a good example for the connection between inceldom and sexual trafficking.

No, trafficking will not give us what we want. Neither will sexbots, escorts, money or a STEM-Degree or anything other except for surgery.

I never made the point that sexual trafficking is a solution to inceldom. But I argue that it is (in large parts) a consequence of it.


And what's with incel rebellion? No one is picking up guns or starting an underground crime network.
People-smugglers do exactly that. But there is only profit in it because there is a growing number of men who cannot attract women the normal way.
 
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Both.

It is a form of rebellion insofar that the men who buy those women have stopped giving a shit about jestering for the consent of those women (the juice is no longer worth the squeeze) and instead go for Plan B.

I don’t give a shit if anyone thinks this is justified or not.
Buying sex is a form of rebellion against the modern state of women?

It's the "world's oldest profession," dumbass. Even the most brainwashed lefitist cuck knows this. It exists solely because of high demand that continues to stay high, thanks to the urge to reproduce, and the fact that women are, by nature, highly selective and sexually discriminatory against all but the genetic top 20% (arguably higher) of men.

And the current exponential rise in sexual trafficking is 1000% connected to the rise of inceldom.
I literally JUST argued for why it isn't in this post and in the previous one.
 
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So you're either trying to argue and say that sex trafficking is a form of rebellion, and thus, somehow justified, or you're trying to backpedal and not trip over your own bullshit by saying it's some symptom of inceldom.

Neither are true. Sex trafficking as a problem has absolutely nothing to do with inceldom. Inceldom is an emergent phenomenon of cultural changes supported by technological changes in the way communication and socio-sexual dynamics occur. In the age of Tinder, the human, as a potential for romantic interest, is completely disposble. Add in female nature and the rest is the Absolute State of Western Civilization.

Sex trafficking has to do with basic economics of sexual demand. Put that together with extremely rich and powerful people wanting to diddle kids and underage teenagers, and you have scumbags like Epstein who fill in a void in the black market.
You said it much better.
 
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Yea, we should totally be careful to stay in the good graces of society….

The Chinese situation is a good example for the connection between inceldom and sexual trafficking.

No, trafficking will not give us what we want. Neither will sexbots, escorts, money or a STEM-Degree or anything other except for surgery.

I never made the point that sexual trafficking is a solution to inceldom. But I argue that it is (in large parts) a consequence of it.




People-smugglers do exactly that. But there is only profit in it because there is a growing number of men who cannot attract women the normal way.
Look I believe there is truth in what you are saying. Increasing percentage of inceldom is causing an increase in demand of prostitutes. It can be argued to fill in this demand human trafficking has begun. Similar to those illegal sand mining which began due to increasing demand due to increasing infrastructural demand.

But the fact is you mentioning "Incel rebellion" and connecting it to human trafficking is pretty sketchy.

Look "Incel rebellion" or "Beta uprising" is a meme. It is about how a rise in number of men with nothing to live for or no family, this loneliness will drive men to demand abolishment of Women's Rights and restoration of extreme patriarchy similar or way stronger than that of Saudi Arabia for example.

Human trafficking is just an extension albeit illegal of "Escortmaxxing" which some users say is cucked. This has absolutely nothing to do with some rebellion.
 
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Sex traffic bad
 
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Buying sex is a form of rebellion against the modern state of women?
No, kidnapping+enslaving+selling them is. That is what I mean when is speak of sexual trafficking.


I literally JUST argued for why it isn't in this post and in the previous one.
I think your argument is flawed.

Inceldom has always existed, it is not an “emergent phenomenon”. I don’t have it on me but wasn’t there a study that argued that for the longest time, 17 Women reproduced for every one man?

But Tinder and such certainly contribute to the problem.

And is it really so hard to imagine that the growing number of incels is fueling sex trafficking?
Look I believe there is truth in what you are saying. Increasing percentage of inceldom is causing an increase in demand of prostitutes. It can be argued to fill in this demand human trafficking has begun. Similar to those illegal sand mining which began due to increasing demand due to increasing infrastructural demand.

But the fact is you mentioning "Incel rebellion" and connecting it to human trafficking is pretty sketchy.

Look "Incel rebellion" or "Beta uprising" is a meme. It is about how a rise in number of men with nothing to live for or no family, this loneliness will drive men to demand abolishment of Women's Rights and restoration of extreme patriarchy similar or way stronger than that of Saudi Arabia for example.

Human trafficking is just an extension albeit illegal of "Escortmaxxing" which some users say is cucked. This has absolutely nothing to do with some rebellion.
First: Thank you for understanding what I’m actually trying to say.

Second: Yea the connection is quit far flung, but the similarity is that in both cases the men involved stop treating women as equals and more as property, which I would consider a form of rebellion against the current state.
 
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No, kidnapping+enslaving+selling them is. That is what I mean when is speak of sexual trafficking.
Are you seriously trying to argue that inceldom in the modern day has significantly contributed to a rise in increased sexual demand, so much so that it's affecting the black market efforts to traffic sex slaves?

That's a highly specious argument, and in fact quite an asinine one to make.

I think your argument is flawed.

Inceldom has always existed, it is not an “emergent phenomenon”. I don’t have it on me but wasn’t there a study that argued that for the longest time, 17 Women reproduced for every one man?

But Tinder and such certainly contribute to the problem.
Yes, in the caveman days, hypergamy was running its natural course. Inceldom has always existed, but it's a phenomenon as a modern day concept. That's what I meant. It wasn't to say that it's something new, but something that is a lot more visible, thanks to technology.

Incels in the old days just died off and nobody gave a single fuck. Today, they have a voice through technology and they're refusing to go quietly without being heard. People only give a fuck, because of the potential threat of lashing out violently. Modern society would love it if we all just piss off and quietly kill ourselves. That's why I'm so against roping. It's what today's caveman society dressed up with iPads and brand clothing wants.

And is it really so hard to imagine that the growing number of incels is fueling sex trafficking?
Yes. The argument is stretching further than a porn star's asshole in an anal gangbang.

There isn't any data showing a direct link between the rising number of single, sexless, unwanted men in societies and any non-marginal inreased demand in sexual services that has directly influenced an increase in sex trafficking.

All you have are arguments, which, I like I said, are highly specious.
 
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Gun wielding manlets would roam the streets, shooting everything that is female or cucked.
Communication and infrastructure would collapse, destroyed by disgruntled STEM- and wage´cels.
Emotionally dead gymcels would hunt down and strangle the life out of their former bullies and hoist the bodies from bridges and lamp poles while the bully’s former girlfriends tremble in fear and submissive arousal.
Army and Law Enforcement would be totally apathetic, unwilling to risk their lives just to defend the ungrateful masses who hate them anyway unless they need protection.
This is beautiful, utopia
 
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Yes, in the caveman days, hypergamy was running its natural course. Inceldom has always existed, but it's a phenomenon as a modern day concept. That's what I meant. It wasn't to say that it's something new, but something that is a lot more visible, thanks to technology.

Incels in the old days just died off and nobody gave a single fuck. Today, they have a voice through technology and they're refusing to go quietly without being heard. People only give a fuck, because of the potential threat of lashing out violently. Modern society would love it if we all just piss off and quietly kill ourselves. That's why I'm so against roping. It's what today's caveman society dressed up with iPads and brand clothing wants.
At least there is something we agree on.


There isn't any data showing a direct link between the rising number of single, sexless, unwanted men in societies and any non-marginal inreased demand in sexual services that has directly influenced an increase in sex trafficking.
Look, I know it is annoying, but I have to refer to the situation in China:

This country is a major hub for human trafficking (of which about 70% is sex-related).
The situation is explained by the huge gender ration, leading to a huge “number of single, sexless, unwanted men”.

Here is an example of what I’m talking about:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/11/03/bride-trafficking-china-spreads-across-asia

If this is not at least clue for the validity of my assertion, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Female hypergamy will lead to similar situations in western countries, with the same response: increased sex trafficking.
 
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Sexual trafficking = natural selection. Females being sold as sex slaves is just nature taking its course, since they have not been able to earn the right of sexual freedom by might.

When you put it that way, escortcels are based.
Hiring an escort is not comparable to buying a sex slave. If you hire an escort, you only pursue the female’s sexual freedom even further by letting her to exploit your libido in exchange of your monetary resources. If you buy a sex slave, you can have fun doing what you want with her.
 
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At least there is something we agree on.




Look, I know it is annoying, but I have to refer to the situation in China:

This country is a major hub for human trafficking (of which about 70% is sex-related).
The situation is explained by the huge gender ration, leading to a huge “number of single, sexless, unwanted men”.

Here is an example of what I’m talking about:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/11/03/bride-trafficking-china-spreads-across-asia

If this is not at least clue for the validity of my assertion, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Female hypergamy will lead to similar situations in western countries, with the same response: increased sex trafficking.
Suppose I grant you this and say that inceldom increases sex trafficking.

What do you want to do about it? What CAN you do about it. Why should we even care? This isn't our problem. It's a far-reaching consequence of feminism in society and the result of rampant hypergamy.

Why even bother trying to make this argument?
 
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Human trafficking in the west doesn’t exist.
 
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Suppose I grant you this and say that inceldom increases sex trafficking.

What do you want to do about it? What CAN you do about it. Why should we even care? This isn't our problem. It's a far-reaching consequence of feminism in society and the result of rampant hypergamy.

Why even bother trying to make this argument?
Since when do I have to present a fucking five-year-plan to solve a global problem before I point it out?

Here is my solution: Women should be content do date their equal. Hypergamy is for stupid animals.

I made this argument because it shows ironically how allowing female freedom leads to their enslavement. And yea maybe there is some grim satisfaction on my part in it too, sue me.
 
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Sex Trafficking kind of doesn't make sense for us in the first place since it is Sex Havers that are doing the Sex Trafficking. Sex Trafficking kind of needs a person to have had sexual experience enough to manipulate someone into doing your bidding. You think a walking womb would do an Ugly Ogres bidding or a Chads bidding? Whose to say that it isn't a Weinstein situation too, that their sexual trafficker got old or ugly and they just decide that they were trafficked one day? Naturally Chads could get whores to do anything they want, so it would be correct to believe that Sex Traffickers are Sex Having Chads, NOT INCELS.
 
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Same here, I respect women too.

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Naturally Chads could get whores to do anything they want, so it would be correct to believe that Sex Traffickers are Sex Having Chads, NOT INCELS.
But an increasing (through hypergamy) number of incels will increase the demand.
 
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