Does anyone else daydream about being a self-employed businessman?

[Deleted member 7448]

My mind hates the idea of being a wageslave paid peanuts so much that it keeps throwing the daydream of being a businessman at me. Used to be programmer but I understood that ship has sailed and it's nor for me anyway.

I know I won't ever be a businessman, my personality is completely opposite of what's required to succeed there. Every time I'd try to make money in games I'd just lose it. Or I'd be too impatient, too anxious about the risk and I'd give up right away. So I always resorted to the dumbest and simplest ways of farming, making like 5k an hour while smart people were making 100k, and even the average was like 10k.

But I guess my brain needs to dream. I just hate the idea of wageslaving for years so much. I hate it so much.

But business is just not my thing. For example, every book or online guide or video or forum/community, it has the totally different ways of teaching than what I need. I need direction, I need specific ideas and a focus. But everything related to business/entrepreneurship resource out there is vague and tells you to find your own thing. Vague shit that doesn't help me. My brain is fucking inverted, everything that comes easy for others is hard for me, and yet many things that they require to be told are obvious to me.

Seriously, I'd browse through entreprenurship/business books and I'd think "THIS SHIT IS OBVIOUS MOTHER FUCKER". And yet the fucking things that I need and don't understand are simply not told, even when I ask on forums and shit, they just give you vague platitudes or tell you to think of those things yourself. It's like it's all a scam.. Jesus, nowadays I can predict the replies on forums/reddit before I post the question. It's like a hivemind.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Lmao no not really.

I probably would kill myself if I ended up as a salary man

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Lmao no not really.

I probably would kill myself if I ended up as a salary man

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I meant the exact opposite, an entrepreneur, a self-employed businessman with his own company.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

it's really hard, i've been trying at it probably since the college days, it's always been on the backburner

it needs to be executed properly and without rushing into it, or in the short run it will make you a lot more dependent on others, when you want independence the most, delaying the 'be my own boss' phase even more

 

[Caesercel]

Lol at reading books and guides to learn how to business. Its not as simple as following some cookbook recipe with specific steps(even cooking is not that simple)

Of course you think the advice is shit. Because it is.

business is not for me too. I am too paranoid and anxious for that. I need surity and security

 

[CrackingYs]

I've been trying to entrepreneurmax for years without success. It's basically destroyed me. It's really hard to build a business, and it's even harder if you're an ugly introvert with social retardation, no friends, and no help.

The most brutal thing I've realized is absolutely nobody will help you or be interested in what you're doing until after you're already successful. People will say shit like "well I'll wait after you're already making lots of money then I'll invest in your business and help it grow 10X". Like, no motherfuckers that sounds a lot more like you want me to help you.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

it's really hard, i've been trying at it probably since the college days, it's always been on the backburner

it needs to be executed properly and without rushing into it, or in the short run it will make you a lot more dependent on others, when you want independence the most, delaying the 'be my own boss' phase even more

Yeah I imagined it would be like this. Damn, reality is so shitty and cruel.

Lol at reading books and guides to learn how to business. Its not as simple as following some cookbook recipe with specific steps(even cooking is not that simple)

Of course you think the advice is shit. Because it is.

business is not for me too. I am too paranoid and anxious for that. I need surity and security

Yep, being a businessman with an anxious personality really is impossible.

And the advice is indeed shit. Even the most recommended books are shit, damn.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

I meant the exact opposite, an entrepreneur, a self-employed businessman with his own company.

In that case yes. Imagine having people making money for you while you manage other shit.

Only way to become self employed is to either have a talent, be lucky, or have a great idea and actually act on it

 

[Caesercel]

Yeah I imagined it would be like this. Damn, reality is so shitty and cruel.

Yep, being a businessman with an anxious personality really is impossible.

And the advice is indeed shit. Even the most recommended books are shit, damn.

In my idea, to really succeed you need capital, connections and the best "education" you can get is an expert experienced mentor in the sector. Not bs books about business.

Infact the only thing businessy about those books is the money they are earning from you

 

[Deleted member 17719]

I just want to be NEET forever, I would sacrifice all the luxeries just to be NEET

 

[Deleted member 7448]

In my idea, to really succeed you need capital, connections and the best "education" you can get is an expert experienced mentor in the sector. Not bs books about business.

Infact the only thing businessy about those books is the money they are earning from you

Unfortunately you hit the nail on the head. Tbh missing just one of those 3 things decreases the chance of succeeding considerably. Ironically capital is the one thing you can kinda do without, but the other 2 are absolutely essential.

I just want to be NEET forever, I would sacrifice all the luxeries just to be NEET

Ohh of course, believe me, I'd live frugally as a NEET till I die if I could. But it's so unrealistic I don't even dare think about it. It's just not possible in most countries.

 

[MentalistKebab]

Nigga I just want free money enough to cover my surgeries and living in an apartment near beach

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Nigga I just want free money enough to cover my surgeries and living in an apartment near beach

... well shit, everybody wants that man. I don't actually want to be a businessman, I want the rewards of it, of course. I'd rather rot altogether but I'll be forced to wageslave regardless of my desires.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

There are pretty much 3 different business models in my opinion


Physical businesses - (Brick and mortar businesses)
Need an upfront capital to start off
Need to truly have a unique 'edge' (product/idea) otherwise you'll face a lot of competition
Need good social skills to deal with employees, customers - have to be a 'peoples person'
eg - cafes, restaurants, gyms, hotels, casinos, salons etc
Very scalable (can open several locations / franchises)

Service Based Businesses
Providing a service- lawyers, architects, dentists, personal trainers, accountants, doctors etc
Extensive schooling required to qualify
Success is completely based on your net working abilities/ social skills - this is how you acquire clients
For extreme extroverts in my opinion

Online Businesses
More suitable for introverts, people who can grind and put their head down and focus on building step by step
Might need upfront capital in some cases
Very scalable (no physical limitations)
Location independent
Eg- trading, dropshipping/ecommerce, affiliate marketing, consulting, poker etc

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

My mind hates the idea of being a wageslave paid peanuts so much that it keeps throwing the daydream of being a businessman at me. Used to be programmer but I understood that ship has sailed and it's nor for me anyway.

I know I won't ever be a businessman, my personality is completely opposite of what's required to succeed there. Every time I'd try to make money in games I'd just lose it. Or I'd be too impatient, too anxious about the risk and I'd give up right away. So I always resorted to the dumbest and simplest ways of farming, making like 5k an hour while smart people were making 100k, and even the average was like 10k.

But I guess my brain needs to dream. I just hate the idea of wageslaving for years so much. I hate it so much.

But business is just not my thing. For example, every book or online guide or video or forum/community, it has the totally different ways of teaching than what I need. I need direction, I need specific ideas and a focus. But everything related to business/entrepreneurship resource out there is vague and tells you to find your own thing. Vague shit that doesn't help me. My brain is fucking inverted, everything that comes easy for others is hard for me, and yet many things that they require to be told are obvious to me.

Seriously, I'd browse through entreprenurship/business books and I'd think "THIS SHIT IS OBVIOUS MOTHER FUCKER". And yet the fucking things that I need and don't understand are simply not told, even when I ask on forums and shit, they just give you vague platitudes or tell you to think of those things yourself. It's like it's all a scam.. Jesus, nowadays I can predict the replies on forums/reddit before I post the question. It's like a hivemind.

Yes. I'd never want to spend my life employed forced to go up early in the morning and spend the entire day in a factory/office/some place 5 days a week for 45 years with 50% of my salary going to a feminist government that works against me.

If I had a gf, if the state was fair and I had a stake in society then yes I would actually comply to be a wage slave. But even then I'd think working all that time is too much. I'd like 6 hour work days with a flexible schedule.

 

[Deleted member 17883]

Yea. We're not so different from npcs tbh.

Uncertainty makes us anxious and unproductive. And thus we hesitate until the opportunity is long gone.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Online Businesses
More suitable for introverts, people who can grind and put their head down and focus on building step by step
Might need upfront capital in some cases
Very scalable (no physical limitations)
Location independent
Eg- trading, dropshipping/ecommerce, affiliate marketing, consulting, poker etc

You are indeed wise my friend. I actually looked into all of those online businesses you mentioned before. Unfortunately for most of them the ship has sailed, in my opinion. Or they require you to get lucky, to invest capital, time and effort, and there's still just a tiny chance you'd even make your investment back. The luck part can't be understated either.

 

[Caesercel]

Yea. We're not so different from npcs tbh.

Uncertainty makes us anxious and unproductive. And thus we hesitate until the opportunity is long gone.

BRUTAL

 

[Deleted member 17883]

Lmao no not really.

I probably would kill myself if I ended up as a salary man

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What I'll give to be a animal...

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

What I'll give to be a animal...

Trust me bud its not all its cracked up to be. I don't have the ability to go to a doctor when i get hurt

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Yea. We're not so different from npcs tbh.

Uncertainty makes us anxious and unproductive. And thus we hesitate until the opportunity is long gone.

Tell me about it. I agonize over every decision for a long time and I still make the wrong choice.

 

[Joelossus]

Not really. My daydreams are mostly about finding a girl who genuinely loves me, and wants to spend time with me.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Trust me bud its not all its cracked up to be. I don't have the ability to go to a doctor when i get hurt

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EStdvjd_8

 

[Deleted member 17883]

Tell me about it. I agonize over every decision for a long time and I still make the wrong choice.

You don't see this shit with chads or high tier normies.

They act so swiftly and fast it's like they know exactly what to do.when to do it and how to do it...Even when saying this. I have to stutter and take back what I said to make it look like I'm not saying something retarded.

Things like this remind me that even when I can see reality clearly better than any other human. I'm still an absolute subhuman retard.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

These communities mostly suffer from survivorshipbias. Don't feel like they actually have a clue. They just got lucky (Genes, environment). Also you need to have a scammy narcissistic approach to make it. Most business people are not respectable greedy self centered cutthroats whose only "skill" is to manage other peoples labor for their own profit.

 

[InMyCellInHell]

It'd be nice but like everything I've tried to do in the past, it would just end up with me failing and having less money than I did before. Being a low-iq ugly person with autism is such a death sentence.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

These communities mostly suffer from survivorshipbias. Don't feel like they actually have a clue. They just got lucky (Genes, environment). Also you need to have a scammy narcissistic approach to make it. Most business people are not respectable greedy self centered cutthroats whose only "skill" is to manage other peoples labor for their own profit.

Well said, both points. And I hate how they don't understand that it's impossible for some people to find an idea that would actually work in their circumstances. They just keep throwing around the same pointless advice and tell you to work harder.

 

[Deleted member 19546]

I daydream of homesteading

 

[Deleted member 25707]

I daydream of my future high paying job, fucking hookers, sleeping 10hours on weekends.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

You are indeed wise my friend. I actually looked into all of those online businesses you mentioned before. Unfortunately for most of them the ship has sailed, in my opinion. Or they require you to get lucky, to invest capital, time and effort, and there's still just a tiny chance you'd even make your investment back. The luck part can't be understated either.

Yes they will require you to put in a lot of time, effort, energy and you will need capital as well, and itll probably take a few years to become consistently profitable and establish your 'edge/niche' , but once you do it mogs wage cucking any day of the year

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Yes they will require you to put in a lot of time, effort, energy and you will need capital as well, and itll probably take a few years to become consistently profitable and establish your 'edge/niche' , but once you do it mogs wage cucking any day of the year

The main problem is the uncertainty and volatility of such endeavors. All that effort, time, money can be entirely wasted. There's no guarantee, in fact the chance is actually pretty small.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

The main problem is the uncertainty and volatility of such endeavors. All that effort, time, money can be entirely wasted. There's no guarantee, in fact the chance is actually pretty small.

That uncertainty and volatility exists in all business endeavors

And what is the other option anyway, wagecucking?

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

My mind hates the idea of being a wageslave paid peanuts so much that it keeps throwing the daydream of being a businessman at me. Used to be programmer but I understood that ship has sailed and it's nor for me anyway.

I know I won't ever be a businessman, my personality is completely opposite of what's required to succeed there. Every time I'd try to make money in games I'd just lose it. Or I'd be too impatient, too anxious about the risk and I'd give up right away. So I always resorted to the dumbest and simplest ways of farming, making like 5k an hour while smart people were making 100k, and even the average was like 10k.

But I guess my brain needs to dream. I just hate the idea of wageslaving for years so much. I hate it so much.

But business is just not my thing. For example, every book or online guide or video or forum/community, it has the totally different ways of teaching than what I need. I need direction, I need specific ideas and a focus. But everything related to business/entrepreneurship resource out there is vague and tells you to find your own thing. Vague shit that doesn't help me. My brain is fucking inverted, everything that comes easy for others is hard for me, and yet many things that they require to be told are obvious to me.

Seriously, I'd browse through entreprenurship/business books and I'd think "THIS SHIT IS OBVIOUS MOTHER FUCKER". And yet the fucking things that I need and don't understand are simply not told, even when I ask on forums and shit, they just give you vague platitudes or tell you to think of those things yourself. It's like it's all a scam.. Jesus, nowadays I can predict the replies on forums/reddit before I post the question. It's like a hivemind.

you misunderstand

the whole memee of just have your own business bro, anyone can be an entrepreneur bro, just start a business yourself bro

there are no fundamentals you need to know outside of the books and business basic premises
the trick is the whole deal is the nepotism the extended client list for the business based on NETWORKING EG FROM SCHOOL UNIVERSITY COLLEGE FAMILY FRIENDS ETC WITHOUT THIS YOUR FUCKED, The halo effect is huge for building cntacts INCELS ARE FROZEN OUT OF SELF E,EMPLOYMENT
NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH INCELS PROVIDING A SERVICE, YOU WILL GET SHAT ON EVERY DAY BY JOE BLOW PUBLIC DUE TO FAILO

THERE IS NO NETWORKING FOR YOUR FACE= number one rule of business, secret harvard course material

This is why most "businessmen" are retarded, CEO of virgin Billionaire richard Branson cant add and is dislexic, Jobs couldnt code it a was all bullshit and charm and charisma for the first 2 years while WOZ the actual genius did 99% of all work, steve ballmer = Microsoft cant spell his own name

IT IS A MEME

 

[Deleted member 7448]

you misunderstand

the whole memee of just have your own business bro, anyone can be an entrepreneur bro, just start a business yourself bro

there are no fundamentals you need to know outside of the books and business basic premises
the trick is the whole deal is the nepotism the extended client list for the business based on NETWORKING EG FROM SCHOOL UNIVERSITY COLLEGE FAMILY FRIENDS ETC WITHOUT THIS YOUR FUCKED, The halo effect is huge for building cntacts INCELS ARE FROZEN OUT OF SELF E,EMPLOYMENT
NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH INCELS PROVIDING A SERVICE, YOU WILL GET SHAT ON EVERY DAY BY JOE BLOW PUBLIC DUE TO FAILO

THERE IS NO NETWORKING FOR YOUR FACE= number one rule of business, secret harvard course material

This is why most "businessmen" are retarded, CEO of virgin Billionaire richard Branson cant add and is dislexic, Jobs couldnt code it a was all bullshit and charm and charisma for the first 2 years while WOZ the actual genius did 99% of all work, steve ballmer = Microsoft cant spell his own name

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What you said will sound crazy to most but unfortunately it's true. It's all about connections, networking, socializing, interacting with people. Things that are much more difficult or even inaccessible to incels. Especially those autistic and avoidant like me.

 

[Deleted member 26923]

I've been trying to entrepreneurmax for years without success. It's basically destroyed me. It's really hard to build a business, and it's even harder if you're an ugly introvert with social retardation, no friends, and no help.

The most brutal thing I've realized is absolutely nobody will help you or be interested in what you're doing until after you're already successful. People will say shit like "well I'll wait after you're already making lots of money then I'll invest in your business and help it grow 10X". Like, no motherfuckers that sounds a lot more like you want me to help you.

you misunderstand

the whole memee of just have your own business bro, anyone can be an entrepreneur bro, just start a business yourself bro

there are no fundamentals you need to know outside of the books and business basic premises
the trick is the whole deal is the nepotism the extended client list for the business based on NETWORKING EG FROM SCHOOL UNIVERSITY COLLEGE FAMILY FRIENDS ETC WITHOUT THIS YOUR FUCKED, The halo effect is huge for building cntacts INCELS ARE FROZEN OUT OF SELF E,EMPLOYMENT
NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH INCELS PROVIDING A SERVICE, YOU WILL GET SHAT ON EVERY DAY BY JOE BLOW PUBLIC DUE TO FAILO

THERE IS NO NETWORKING FOR YOUR FACE= number one rule of business, secret harvard course material

This is why most "businessmen" are retarded, CEO of virgin Billionaire richard Branson cant add and is dislexic, Jobs couldnt code it a was all bullshit and charm and charisma for the first 2 years while WOZ the actual genius did 99% of all work, steve ballmer = Microsoft cant spell his own name

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[Simulacrasimulation]

y

What you said will sound crazy to most but unfortunately it's true. It's all about connections, networking, socializing, interacting with people. Things that are much more difficult or even inaccessible to incels. Especially those autistic and avoidant like me.

You and many on here including myself, seem autistic and avoidant in my opinion purely because your treated like shit socially

if you are slapped are you going to do the same activity that got you slapped
the brain is smart it minimises pain, avoids(flight or fight) dangerous or perceived danger eg you have been attacked psychologically before

example if in a shop you got shit service and the cashier an asshole, how many times do you go back to the same shop, you can count this on ZERO fingers because you aint going back.
same difference you avoid environments where you have been fucked before
however the problem is with INCELS IS ITS FUCKING EVERYWHERE ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IS OUTSIDE MAYBE YOUR FAMILY (AT A STRETCH)

 

[Deleted member 29704]

agriculture is a good business especially in countries where land is cheap

 

[Deleted member 6329]

I daydream about winning the megamillions and spending the rest of my years making porn.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

agriculture is a good business especially in countries where land is cheap

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Only way to become self employed is to either have a talent, be lucky, or have a great idea and actually act on it

Only great ideas people come up with here are to cope.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Only great ideas people come up with here are to cope.

I agree with you

 

[Deleted member 26358]

My go-to daydream is winning the lottery and building an underground mansion into the mountains where I can just chill on my own with literally no obligations.

 

[Deleted member 236]

Think of something original and that utilises technology.

Or just wage slave part time, live modestly and enjoy yourself and/or pursue your dreams/interests with the rest of your life. Men usually only need to start earning when they have a child. Unless you're unlucky enough to be born in the US.