Serious Does liberalism cause the downfall of society?

[Pitar62]

I mean, conservatism puts some very clear boundaries on what people are allowed and aren't allowed to do. Notice islam, or old communist countries from the eastern blocc. People were educated, monogamous, everybody wanted to have a family and have kids. Now foids and men are all on a contest to see who can have more sex.

Liberalism basically wants to push the boundaries of society. Let me give you some examples. They want to normalize dressing like a whore, and sexual education in school. This will obviously lead to degeneracy in future generations. Now, future generations will push the boundaries even more. They will want to have sex in public, and pornography viewed in school, for education purposes. Next, we will have huge bdsm cults on the street (it's already happening), and huge orgies.

Feminists are gonna say "What's wrong with dressing like a whore, sweetie? It's my body, can't you handle it?" They are gaslighting us, imposing themselves without thinking of the long-term effects this will have on society.

This is how I view liberalism, I think people will keep bending the rules of society, until we will have anarchy or something. People need rules, they need to fear something. That's how humanity worked for millenia. If humans are allowed to have their way, we will be nothing but animals.

I simply don't like the direction in which our society is headed and it depresses me very badly.

 

[IncelCream]

No, Classical Liberalism doesn't

It allows you to:
Free speech
Gun laws
Make money

What ruins society is Neo-Liberalism, this happened from 1980s - present, this is normally the transition to a service economy, meaning no factory jobs and high rents

Culturally you need some Conservatism and Liberalism, you need to flexibility or society gets to rigid

 

[Therapywasaaste]

Does liberalism cause the downfall of society?​

yes

 

[tulasdanslos]

It does. Fuck liberalism.

 

[Pitar62]

Culturally you need some Conservatism and Liberalism, you need to flexibility or society gets to rigid

You're right, but why has our society leaned so far to the left in the past decades? I don't think people will ever lean to the right too soon

 

[ReconElement]

YES. If you go by cis, poly, mono and all sorts of BSs passed on as some sort of liberal ideas and not to mention how much these unemployable shitseller racists leech off of whatever country they're in.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Liberalism only works if what is good in the world truly wins in this world.
Clearly it doesn't.

 

[grondilu]

I refuse to call liberal a society that prohibits prostitution.

 

[Deleted member 31122]

Yes, we didn't have any *progressive" shit for thousands years and that was healthy society now we are going back to primal times, where most of the males don't reproduce

 

[JuikoTheo]

Yes, cattle needs to be tamed

 

[IncelCream]

You're right, but why has our society leaned so far to the left in the past decades? I don't think people will ever lean to the right too soon

Because Gov/Companies can get more money if they promote women to work and consume

 

[Lebensmüder]

Yes. Freedom is nothing that benefits most people. Limitless freedom was never a desirable goal or something that could/should be achieved. Freedom without responsibilities is the root cause of societal downfall. Freedom in economy leads to monopolies, complete freedom in society leads to chads (=wealthy elite) accumulating all the social capital and degeneration because there is no shame anymore for despicable acts. Freedom needs its limits.

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

I mean, conservatism puts some very clear boundaries on what people are allowed and aren't allowed to do. Notice islam, or old communist countries from the eastern blocc. People were educated, monogamous, everybody wanted to have a family and have kids. Now foids and men are all on a contest to see who can have more sex.

Liberalism basically wants to push the boundaries of society. Let me give you some examples. They want to normalize dressing like a whore, and sexual education in school. This will obviously lead to degeneracy in future generations. Now, future generations will push the boundaries even more. They will want to have sex in public, and pornography viewed in school, for education purposes. Next, we will have huge bdsm cults on the street (it's already happening), and huge orgies.

Feminists are gonna say "What's wrong with dressing like a whore, sweetie? It's my body, can't you handle it?" They are gaslighting us, imposing themselves without thinking of the long-term effects this will have on society.

This is how I view liberalism, I think people will keep bending the rules of society, until we will have anarchy or something. People need rules, they need to fear something. That's how humanity worked for millenia. If humans are allowed to have their way, we will be nothing but animals.

I simply don't like the direction in which our society is headed and it depresses me very badly.

its worse
the liberalism has no moral base, it is purely based on the survival of the sexiest and thats it a free for all overcommercialized free for all where the top sexual predators win and the world is contrived whereby everyone is beholden to the more attractive person in an archaic like structure.

this structure is almost identical in shape and construction as all other hierarchical systems, they have just changed the dynamic so it is based on aesthetics for both sexes not race or wealth its literally the same game just with a different method of winning, its pathetic.

Also the only reason the game is constructed in this way is because women are the aesthetic sex and these women also only want the top 20% (now 10%) of aesthetically gifted men including height to be at the top of the pyramid. Literally everything rolls off this hierarchical structure all the bells and whistles of society, The media, the way the Law is interpreted and operates, the culture, religion, people's value system, everything is infected and affected in a neural network way.

 

[Deleted member 24876]

I would argue that sexual liberalism did, because it enabled sexual freedom which gave foids more power in soyciety.

 

[Deleted member 20195]

Everything that is subjective will ultimately lead to degeneracy of the human nature. In the United Cuckdom for example conservatism is not like US conservatism, it's pro choice and pro gay marriage. Where is the rulebook for conservatism? Who decides what's conservative and what's not? The only choice is a theocracy governed by the rules of a holy book as it's basis.

 

[ElliotRodgerGod]

Political stance of the ideal person:

Spoiler

Patriarchist quasi-neoreactionary libertarian pedohebephebocestuous rapecel

 

[Deleted member 24272]

Yes
Something both left and right wing cels can aggre on.

 

[Mainländer]

Yes bro.

 

[Unhappy-Man]

Go to the source, subversive Jews cause the downfall of society

 

[TallCelFag]

Depends on which branch of liberalism we’re talking. Classical liberalism is more based than neoliberalism, for instance.

 

[Deleted member 28148]

It does. Fuck liberalism.

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[ElliotRodgerHere]

View: https://youtu.be/nNE2lSnS58s

I refuse to call liberal a society that prohibits prostitution.

What about a society that allows transvestites to read books to kids sitting on their lap?

 

[Deleted member 14805]

I honestly don't even know at this point. It seems like no matter what systems, laws, economical system etc. we have it's going to get hijacked by psychopaths who'll exploit it for their own gain at the expense of everyone else, so you tell me if we lived in a conservative or liberal society and see if they don't cause the downfall of society, as far as I'm concerned humanity causes the downfall of society due to psychos who want all for themselves and not care about the long term consequences.

 

[incelerated]

No, radicalism does. Radicalism in anything causes the downfall of society.

 

[Deleted member 24272]

Liberalism is a mental disease

 

[Neggr]

its latestage capitalism which rapes our society, power and money hungry (((merchants))) are destroying this world.

 

[Deleted member 23712]

I mean, conservatism puts some very clear boundaries on what people are allowed and aren't allowed to do. Notice islam, or old communist countries from the eastern blocc. People were educated, monogamous, everybody wanted to have a family and have kids. Now foids and men are all on a contest to see who can have more sex.

Liberalism basically wants to push the boundaries of society. Let me give you some examples. They want to normalize dressing like a whore, and sexual education in school. This will obviously lead to degeneracy in future generations. Now, future generations will push the boundaries even more. They will want to have sex in public, and pornography viewed in school, for education purposes. Next, we will have huge bdsm cults on the street (it's already happening), and huge orgies.

Feminists are gonna say "What's wrong with dressing like a whore, sweetie? It's my body, can't you handle it?" They are gaslighting us, imposing themselves without thinking of the long-term effects this will have on society.

This is how I view liberalism, I think people will keep bending the rules of society, until we will have anarchy or something. People need rules, they need to fear something. That's how humanity worked for millenia. If humans are allowed to have their way, we will be nothing but animals.

I simply don't like the direction in which our society is headed and it depresses me very badly.

Liberalism is a mental disorder

 

[Deleted member 27204]

I refuse to call liberal a society that prohibits prostitution.

 

[Deleted member 28304]

yes

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

See my signature.

 

[Linesnap99]

yes

It does. Fuck liberalism.

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indeed.

 

[ConservativeCel]

No, Classical Liberalism doesn't

It allows you to:
Free speech
Gun laws
Make money

What ruins society is Neo-Liberalism, this happened from 1980s - present, this is normally the transition to a service economy, meaning no factory jobs and high rents

Culturally you need some Conservatism and Liberalism, you need to flexibility or society gets to rigid

I disagree. Classical liberalism, too, is a danger. Some of its ideas may be fine but the core of liberalism - that an individual's personal choices and whims come before the society's interests, is simply a misguided belief.

 

[Deleted member 28148]

Yes

 

[Deleted member 16390]

No, diseases, premature death/ bad health, and lack of productivity causes downfall of civilizations.

 

[SchrodingersDick]

No, Classical Liberalism doesn't

It allows you to:
Free speech
Gun laws
Make money

What ruins society is Neo-Liberalism, this happened from 1980s - present, this is normally the transition to a service economy, meaning no factory jobs and high rents

Culturally you need some Conservatism and Liberalism, you need to flexibility or society gets to rigid

I disagree. Classical liberalism, too, is a danger. Some of its ideas may be fine but the core of liberalism - that an individual's personal choices and whims come before the society's interests, is simply a misguided belief.

But the ones that do come before a society’s interests are explicitly codified in the constitution. Everything else must be weighed against the society’s interests.

 

[Blackpill Rage]

Liberalism is just a symptom. Jews are the disease.

 

[PPEcel]

Put money in my wallet and I won't complain.