I was arguing with a guy on my reddit post (fishing for rape porn) about rape and morality, etc and It led to what I would say is one of my best posts yet, I really just sat back and read it over after posting and thought "man, how true is this shit, it can be applied to anything, food, water, rights, etc". The guy asked me what are "the right circumstances" and it got me thinking, and I narrowed it down to 4 primary criteria.
> I love my ex to bits.
There's a thin line between love and hate, the hate I'm talking about is more subconscious, the irony of a sadist not contemplating where their sadism stems from.
>I was just checking. Because if you don't care that rape is immoral, what's stopping you from doing it?
Nothing, there was never anything stopping anyone from doing anything other than OTHER PEOPLE lol, welcome to reality mate. Thieves steal, murderers murder, rapists rape, etc because man made laws aren't like the laws of physics.
I often laugh to myself thinking that laws can be looked at in a different perspective, you see the jail time that you get isn't based on the seriousness of the crime, you can look at it another way, the jail time you serve is for getting caught, and the crime itself is just another variable by which the "getting caught" constant is multiplied against to determine your sentence lol.
You don't do jail time for the crime itself, you do jail time for getting caught, if I jump off a tall building the laws of physics can impose their will on me regardless of whether someone sees or not, if I kill or rape someone I actually have to "be caught" for said laws to impose their will on me, so essentially they don't really exist, my jail time is not for the act committed, its more like for committing the egregious act of being caught doing it.
>"People think rape is naughty! Censorship!"
>What on earth are "the right circumstances"?
Lol, I just think the whole "its just a fantasy" shtick is just plain lying to yourself, its half assing your inner desires, a lot of the guys who say its "just a fantasy" would likely rape if they were sex starved, with no future prospects of getting laid, and there was a drunk passed out woman you found on a bench at a park in the middle of the night.
That's what I mean by "right circumstances"
1. Your physical needs must no longer be met for an extended duration that makes the need seem unbearable
2. You must be almost constantly (if not constantly) "bombarded" by various stimulus that will sexually arouse you (modern society takes care of that part, sex sells and is used in advertising ad nauseum, also in these times people flaunt their sex lives)
3. The perceived possibility that said need will be met at some point in the future (hope) has to be completely destroyed. This is when your morality will start to waver, you won't care about it much anymore if even at all
4. An opportunity to have said need satisfied must present itself and in most cases be low risk
Take any of your so called larping "its just a rape fantasy" males, leave him sex starved for years or even months, make it clear to him that he will never have sex ever again, sporadically stimulate him sexually with visuals, then the final piece is merely to have an opportunity to rape with low risk of getting caught present itself, and boom, your so called "its just a fantasy" guy is now a rapist, because here's the common sense thing about fantasies you forgot - PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE OUT THEIR FANTASIES lol.
The reason why guys like you speak of it as "just a fantasy" is because you have various "checks" in place to keep you in a state of mind where you feel no need to ever really take it to its final conclusion.
1. Morality
2. Satisfaction
3. Opportunity
So long as your morality isn't weakened, your needs are being met and an opportunity never presents itself, you'll get to exist in that comfy little bubble where you don't have to feel like "a bad person".
You can take the 4 criteria i listed and apply it to anything, in fact lets apply it to food.
1. You are hungry and starving (its been two days since you last ate)
2. You can see and smell food, being eaten by everyone else around you
3. You are homeless and without a job in a poor area of a city, you likely won't receive any help or handouts, you don't see a meal coming your way anytime soon. You don't like the thought of stealing but at this point you're so hungry you don't really care, you just want the hunger to stop.
4. You happen upon a street food vendor who seems occupied serving customers and distracted laughing and talking to his regulars. Lets say its sandwiches, you have a clear and easy chance to just snatch one and run off
Under these circumstances, who the fuck wouldn't steal the sandwich?
There you go, something that nobody can logically argue against, but I'm sure you will try anyways, morality is simply the difference between those four criteria being met, that's really it, we live in modern times where its easier to have your needs met so it seems like were more "morally superior" to the humans of the past, but we aren't, were actually more hedonistic and immoral, we just have to tools and resources to more easily provide for ourselves than the people of the past.
If we woke up tomorrow, and all porn dvds were destroyed, all porn videos and images online were deleted, all private personal archives of porn were erased, do you know how much rape would take place within a month relative to what would take place with all these "outlets" in place.
https://journalistsresource.org/stu...ustice/legal-prostitution-reduce-rape-holland
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault
As long as people, have outlets to have their needs met they "appear to be moral", humans aren't moral, morality is an illusion, were just content right now, were just satisfied, take away food, water, entertainment, etc from the masses and watch anarchy become the dominant mindset before I could even say "I told you so".
> I love my ex to bits.
There's a thin line between love and hate, the hate I'm talking about is more subconscious, the irony of a sadist not contemplating where their sadism stems from.
>I was just checking. Because if you don't care that rape is immoral, what's stopping you from doing it?
Nothing, there was never anything stopping anyone from doing anything other than OTHER PEOPLE lol, welcome to reality mate. Thieves steal, murderers murder, rapists rape, etc because man made laws aren't like the laws of physics.
I often laugh to myself thinking that laws can be looked at in a different perspective, you see the jail time that you get isn't based on the seriousness of the crime, you can look at it another way, the jail time you serve is for getting caught, and the crime itself is just another variable by which the "getting caught" constant is multiplied against to determine your sentence lol.
You don't do jail time for the crime itself, you do jail time for getting caught, if I jump off a tall building the laws of physics can impose their will on me regardless of whether someone sees or not, if I kill or rape someone I actually have to "be caught" for said laws to impose their will on me, so essentially they don't really exist, my jail time is not for the act committed, its more like for committing the egregious act of being caught doing it.
>"People think rape is naughty! Censorship!"
>What on earth are "the right circumstances"?
Lol, I just think the whole "its just a fantasy" shtick is just plain lying to yourself, its half assing your inner desires, a lot of the guys who say its "just a fantasy" would likely rape if they were sex starved, with no future prospects of getting laid, and there was a drunk passed out woman you found on a bench at a park in the middle of the night.
That's what I mean by "right circumstances"
1. Your physical needs must no longer be met for an extended duration that makes the need seem unbearable
2. You must be almost constantly (if not constantly) "bombarded" by various stimulus that will sexually arouse you (modern society takes care of that part, sex sells and is used in advertising ad nauseum, also in these times people flaunt their sex lives)
3. The perceived possibility that said need will be met at some point in the future (hope) has to be completely destroyed. This is when your morality will start to waver, you won't care about it much anymore if even at all
4. An opportunity to have said need satisfied must present itself and in most cases be low risk
Take any of your so called larping "its just a rape fantasy" males, leave him sex starved for years or even months, make it clear to him that he will never have sex ever again, sporadically stimulate him sexually with visuals, then the final piece is merely to have an opportunity to rape with low risk of getting caught present itself, and boom, your so called "its just a fantasy" guy is now a rapist, because here's the common sense thing about fantasies you forgot - PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE OUT THEIR FANTASIES lol.
The reason why guys like you speak of it as "just a fantasy" is because you have various "checks" in place to keep you in a state of mind where you feel no need to ever really take it to its final conclusion.
1. Morality
2. Satisfaction
3. Opportunity
So long as your morality isn't weakened, your needs are being met and an opportunity never presents itself, you'll get to exist in that comfy little bubble where you don't have to feel like "a bad person".
You can take the 4 criteria i listed and apply it to anything, in fact lets apply it to food.
1. You are hungry and starving (its been two days since you last ate)
2. You can see and smell food, being eaten by everyone else around you
3. You are homeless and without a job in a poor area of a city, you likely won't receive any help or handouts, you don't see a meal coming your way anytime soon. You don't like the thought of stealing but at this point you're so hungry you don't really care, you just want the hunger to stop.
4. You happen upon a street food vendor who seems occupied serving customers and distracted laughing and talking to his regulars. Lets say its sandwiches, you have a clear and easy chance to just snatch one and run off
Under these circumstances, who the fuck wouldn't steal the sandwich?
There you go, something that nobody can logically argue against, but I'm sure you will try anyways, morality is simply the difference between those four criteria being met, that's really it, we live in modern times where its easier to have your needs met so it seems like were more "morally superior" to the humans of the past, but we aren't, were actually more hedonistic and immoral, we just have to tools and resources to more easily provide for ourselves than the people of the past.
If we woke up tomorrow, and all porn dvds were destroyed, all porn videos and images online were deleted, all private personal archives of porn were erased, do you know how much rape would take place within a month relative to what would take place with all these "outlets" in place.
https://journalistsresource.org/stu...ustice/legal-prostitution-reduce-rape-holland
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault
As long as people, have outlets to have their needs met they "appear to be moral", humans aren't moral, morality is an illusion, were just content right now, were just satisfied, take away food, water, entertainment, etc from the masses and watch anarchy become the dominant mindset before I could even say "I told you so".
(especially any uncensored).
