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Go back hundreds of thousands of years, when every femoid reproduced and only one out of seventeen men reproduced, when sixteen out of seventeen men either spent their lives hunting and gathering to feed cave chad, his harem, and his offspring while being bullied, intimidated, and killed in the heartless bloodbath of sexual competition and the only other option was to wander the earth alone until you die... These cavecels didn't have ropes, you could eat some poison berries or poison plant, you could force a venomous snake to bite you, maybe a few were smart enough to slash their wrists with obsidian but I doubt it, and if you knew where a high cliff was there was that option.

So how does a non chad man perform the art of suicide where there is no high cliffs? How does he set himself free if he lacks the knowledge of rope making or poison plants? What if he's not smart enough to slash his wrist? How do animals perform suicide? I remember when my dog was terminally ill and it knew that there was no pint in suffering a meaningless existence, it stopped eating and hid in under a table with it's face in the corner. We had to take it to the vet and shoot it up with the pink juice. Animals know that starvation can kill them. Starvation must therefore be, the primordial incel suicide method. It requires nothing, you don't need anything to do it.

If you choose to die by starvation alone, without dehydrating yourself, it can be painless and euphoric... it just takes awhile... If you start with less than ten percent body fat, you end it in a month. In India it's ritualized and often involves a slow gradual reduction of food over a period of several months to several years until they choose to stop eating completely and barely drink water, some abandoning water when they feel death is near to hasten the process.

In Hinduism this is called Prayopavesa:
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(From Wikipedia)
Prayopavesa (Sanskrit: प्रायोपवेशनम्, literally resolving to die through fasting) is a practice in Hinduism that denotes the suicide by fasting of a person, who has no desire or ambition left, and no responsibilities remaining in life . Committing Prayopavesa is bound by very strict regulations. Only a person who has no desire or ambition left, and no responsibilities remaining in life is entitled to perform it . The decision to do so must be publicly declared well in advance. Ancient lawmakers stipulated the conditions that allow Prayopavesa. They are one's inability to perform normal bodily purification, death appears imminent or the condition is so bad that life's pleasures are nil and the action is done under community regulation.

As you can see, prayopavesa is taking LDAR to the extreme, it is the ultimate LDAR. Fuck community regulation, everyone is bluepilled and cucked in current times.

In Jainism it is called Sallekhana:
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Sallekhana , also known as samlehna, santhara, samadhi-marana or sanyasana-marana, is a supplementary vow to the ethical code of conduct of Jainism. It is the religious practice of voluntarily fasting to death by gradually reducing the intake of food and liquids. It is viewed in Jainism as the thinning of human passions and the body, and another means of destroying rebirth-influencing karma by withdrawing all physical and mental activities. It is not considered as a suicide by Jain scholars because it is not an act of passion, nor does it deploy poisons or weapons. After the sallekhana vow, the ritual preparation and practice can extend into years.

Sallekhana (Sanskrit: Sallikhita) means to properly 'thin out', 'scour out' or 'slender' the passions and the body through gradually abstaining from food and drink. Sallekhana is divided into two components: Kashaya Sallekhana (slenderising of passions) or Abhayantra Sallekhana (internal slendering) and Kaya Sallekhana (slenderising the body) or Bahya Sallekhana(external slendering). According to Jain texts, Sallekhana leads to Ahimsa (non-violence or non-injury), as a person observing Sallekhana subjugates the passions, which are the root cause of Himsa (injury or violence).

It's also practiced in Buddhism as well:
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(2nd century B.C.E statue of a Neckbeard Buddha embracing death by LDAR)
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(Look at this chad with his shades on...)
(From Wikipedia)
Sokushinbutsu () are a kind of Buddhist mummy. The term refers to the practice of Buddhist monks observing asceticism to the point of death and entering mummification while alive.[1]They are seen in a number of Buddhist countries, but the Japanese term "sokushinbutsu" is generally used. It is believed that many hundreds of monks tried, but only 24 such mummifications have been discovered to date. There is a common suggestion that Shingon school founder Kukai brought this practice from Tang China as part of secret tantric practices he learned, and that were later lost in China. According to Paul Williams, the Sokushinbutsu ascetic practices of Shugendō were likely inspired by Kūkai – the founder of Shingon Buddhism, who ended his life by reducing and then stopping intake of food and water, while continuing to meditate and chant Buddhist mantras. Ascetic self-mummification practices are also recorded in China, but are associated with the Ch'an(Zen Buddhism) tradition there.

In medieval Japan, this tradition developed a process for Sokushinbutsu, which a monk completed over about 3,000 days to ten years. It involved a strict diet called mokujikigyo (literally, "eating a tree"). The diet abstained from any cereals, and relied on pine needles, resins and seeds found in the mountains, which would eliminate all fat in the body. Increasing rates of fasting and meditation would lead to starvation. The monks would slowly reduce then stop liquid intake, thus dehydrating the body and shrinking all organs. The monks would die in a state of jhana (meditation) while chanting the nenbutsu (a mantra about Buddha), and their body would become naturally preserved as a mummy with skin and teeth intact without decay and without the need of any artificial preservatives.

It was discussed by Hegesias of Cyrene:
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Hegesias (Greek: Ἡγησίας; fl. 290 BC) of Cyrene was a Cyrenaic philosopher, the Cyrenaics forming one of the earliest Socratic schools of philosophy. He argued that happiness is impossible to achieve, and that the goal of life was the avoidance of pain and sorrow. Conventional values such as wealth, poverty, freedom, and slavery are all indifferent and produce no more pleasure than pain. Cicero claims that Hegesias wrote a book called Death by Starvation, which persuaded so many people that death is more desirable than life that Hegesias was banned from teaching in Alexandria. It has been thought by some that Hegesias was influenced by Buddhist teachings.

Hegesias followed Aristippus in considering pleasure as the goal of life; but, the view which he took of human life was more pessimistic. Happiness, he said, could not be the goal of life, because it is not attainable, and therefore concluded that the wise person's only goal should be to become free from pain and sorrow. Since, too, every person is self-sufficient, all external goods were rejected as not being true sources of pleasure.

Complete happiness cannot possibly exist; for that the body is full of many sensations, and that the mind sympathizes with the body, and is troubled when that is troubled, and also that fortune prevents many things which we cherished in anticipation; so that for all these reasons, perfect happiness eludes our grasp. Moreover, that both life and death are desirable. They also say that there is nothing naturally pleasant or unpleasant, but that owing to want, or rarity, or satiety, some people are pleased and some vexed; and that wealth and poverty have no influence at all on pleasure, for that rich people are not affected by pleasure in a different manner from poor people. In the same way they say that slavery and freedom are things indifferent, if measured by the standard of pleasure, and nobility and baseness of birth, and glory and infamy. They add that, for the foolish person it is expedient to live, but to the wise person it is a matter of indifference; and that the wise person will do everything for his own sake; for that he will not consider any one else of equal importance with himself; and he will see that if he were to obtain ever such great advantages from any one else, they would not be equal to what he could himself bestow.
Hence the sage ought to regard nothing but himself; action is quite indifferent; and if action, so also is life, which, therefore, is in no way more desirable than death.

The wise person would not be so much absorbed in the pursuit of what is good, as in the attempt to avoid what is bad, considering the chief good to be living free from all trouble and pain: and that this end was attained best by those who looked upon the efficient causes of pleasure as indifferent.
None of this, however, is as strong as the testimony of Cicero, who claims that Hegesias wrote a book called Death by Starvation (Greek: ἀποκαρτερῶν), in which a man who has resolved to starve himself is introduced as representing to his friends that death is actually more to be desired than life, and that the gloomy descriptions of human misery which this work contained were so overpowering that they inspired many people to kill themselves, in consequence of which the author received the surname of Death-persuader (Peisithanatos). This book was published at Alexandria, where he was, in consequence, forbidden to teach by king Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285-246 BC).

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Seriously, I can't think of a more badass way to go. All these dudes in ancient times were black pilled as fuck.
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Wish I could do this but this sounds like pure suffering ngl, too much of a pussy to do it.
 
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would be pretty hard to do tbh. I want a quick death
 
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This should be enforced for whales
 
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Interesting post .
Starving is the ultimate form of independence tbh .
 
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Go back hundreds of thousands of years, when every femoid reproduced and only one out of seventeen men reproduced, when sixteen out of seventeen men either spent their lives hunting and gathering to feed cave chad, his harem, and his offspring while being bullied, intimidated, and killed in the heartless bloodbath of sexual competition and the only other option was to wander the earth alone until you die... These cavecels didn't have ropes, you could eat some poison berries or poison plant, you could force a venomous snake to bite you, maybe a few were smart enough to slash their wrists with obsidian but I doubt it, and if you knew where a high cliff was there was that option.

So how does a non chad man perform the art of suicide where there is no high cliffs? How does he set himself free if he lacks the knowledge of rope making or poison plants? What if he's not smart enough to slash his wrist? How do animals perform suicide? I remember when my dog was terminally ill and it knew that there was no pint in suffering a meaningless existence, it stopped eating and hid in under a table with it's face in the corner. We had to take it to the vet and shoot it up with the pink juice. Animals know that starvation can kill them. Starvation must therefore be, the primordial incel suicide method. It requires nothing, you don't need anything to do it.

If you choose to die by starvation alone, without dehydrating yourself, it can be painless and euphoric... it just takes awhile... If you start with less than ten percent body fat, you end it in a month. In India it's ritualized and often involves a slow gradual reduction of food over a period of several months to several years until they choose to stop eating completely and barely drink water, some abandoning water when they feel death is near to hasten the process.

In Hinduism this is called Prayopavesa:
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(From Wikipedia)
Prayopavesa (Sanskrit: प्रायोपवेशनम्, literally resolving to die through fasting) is a practice in Hinduism that denotes the suicide by fasting of a person, who has no desire or ambition left, and no responsibilities remaining in life . Committing Prayopavesa is bound by very strict regulations. Only a person who has no desire or ambition left, and no responsibilities remaining in life is entitled to perform it . The decision to do so must be publicly declared well in advance. Ancient lawmakers stipulated the conditions that allow Prayopavesa. They are one's inability to perform normal bodily purification, death appears imminent or the condition is so bad that life's pleasures are nil and the action is done under community regulation.

As you can see, prayopavesa is taking LDAR to the extreme, it is the ultimate LDAR. Fuck community regulation, everyone is bluepilled and cucked in current times.

In Jainism it is called Sallekhana:
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(From Wikipedia)
Sallekhana , also known as samlehna, santhara, samadhi-marana or sanyasana-marana, is a supplementary vow to the ethical code of conduct of Jainism. It is the religious practice of voluntarily fasting to death by gradually reducing the intake of food and liquids. It is viewed in Jainism as the thinning of human passions and the body, and another means of destroying rebirth-influencing karma by withdrawing all physical and mental activities. It is not considered as a suicide by Jain scholars because it is not an act of passion, nor does it deploy poisons or weapons. After the sallekhana vow, the ritual preparation and practice can extend into years.

Sallekhana (Sanskrit: Sallikhita) means to properly 'thin out', 'scour out' or 'slender' the passions and the body through gradually abstaining from food and drink. Sallekhana is divided into two components: Kashaya Sallekhana (slenderising of passions) or Abhayantra Sallekhana (internal slendering) and Kaya Sallekhana (slenderising the body) or Bahya Sallekhana(external slendering). According to Jain texts, Sallekhana leads to Ahimsa (non-violence or non-injury), as a person observing Sallekhana subjugates the passions, which are the root cause of Himsa (injury or violence).

It's also practiced in Buddhism as well:
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(2nd century B.C.E statue of a Neckbeard Buddha embracing death by LDAR)
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(Look at this chad with his shades on...)
(From Wikipedia)
Sokushinbutsu () are a kind of Buddhist mummy. The term refers to the practice of Buddhist monks observing asceticism to the point of death and entering mummification while alive.[1]They are seen in a number of Buddhist countries, but the Japanese term "sokushinbutsu" is generally used. It is believed that many hundreds of monks tried, but only 24 such mummifications have been discovered to date. There is a common suggestion that Shingon school founder Kukai brought this practice from Tang China as part of secret tantric practices he learned, and that were later lost in China. According to Paul Williams, the Sokushinbutsu ascetic practices of Shugendō were likely inspired by Kūkai – the founder of Shingon Buddhism, who ended his life by reducing and then stopping intake of food and water, while continuing to meditate and chant Buddhist mantras. Ascetic self-mummification practices are also recorded in China, but are associated with the Ch'an(Zen Buddhism) tradition there.

In medieval Japan, this tradition developed a process for Sokushinbutsu, which a monk completed over about 3,000 days to ten years. It involved a strict diet called mokujikigyo (literally, "eating a tree"). The diet abstained from any cereals, and relied on pine needles, resins and seeds found in the mountains, which would eliminate all fat in the body. Increasing rates of fasting and meditation would lead to starvation. The monks would slowly reduce then stop liquid intake, thus dehydrating the body and shrinking all organs. The monks would die in a state of jhana (meditation) while chanting the nenbutsu (a mantra about Buddha), and their body would become naturally preserved as a mummy with skin and teeth intact without decay and without the need of any artificial preservatives.

It was discussed by Hegesias of Cyrene:
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(From Wikipedia)
Hegesias (Greek: Ἡγησίας; fl. 290 BC) of Cyrene was a Cyrenaic philosopher, the Cyrenaics forming one of the earliest Socratic schools of philosophy. He argued that happiness is impossible to achieve, and that the goal of life was the avoidance of pain and sorrow. Conventional values such as wealth, poverty, freedom, and slavery are all indifferent and produce no more pleasure than pain. Cicero claims that Hegesias wrote a book called Death by Starvation, which persuaded so many people that death is more desirable than life that Hegesias was banned from teaching in Alexandria. It has been thought by some that Hegesias was influenced by Buddhist teachings.

Hegesias followed Aristippus in considering pleasure as the goal of life; but, the view which he took of human life was more pessimistic. Happiness, he said, could not be the goal of life, because it is not attainable, and therefore concluded that the wise person's only goal should be to become free from pain and sorrow. Since, too, every person is self-sufficient, all external goods were rejected as not being true sources of pleasure.


Hence the sage ought to regard nothing but himself; action is quite indifferent; and if action, so also is life, which, therefore, is in no way more desirable than death.


None of this, however, is as strong as the testimony of Cicero, who claims that Hegesias wrote a book called Death by Starvation (Greek: ἀποκαρτερῶν), in which a man who has resolved to starve himself is introduced as representing to his friends that death is actually more to be desired than life, and that the gloomy descriptions of human misery which this work contained were so overpowering that they inspired many people to kill themselves, in consequence of which the author received the surname of Death-persuader (Peisithanatos). This book was published at Alexandria, where he was, in consequence, forbidden to teach by king Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285-246 BC).

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Seriously, I can't think of a more badass way to go. All these dudes in ancient times were black pilled as fuck.
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Dude that is way too much to read
And hell no massive fucking cope

Lol at being hungry within an hour after waking up

I'd sooner put a bullet in my brain before even looking towards starvation as a means for death.

I would probably eat another person under desperate circumstances.

Beyond over for starvationcels
 
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Ancient men knew what was going in. Fuck modern era
 
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There's no fucking way i'm gonna do that. Starving to death has always been one of my biggest fears, it sounds like fucking hell.
 
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I wish to try this when i get older 30+
 
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Go back hundreds of thousands of years, when every femoid reproduced and only one out of seventeen men reproduced, when sixteen out of seventeen men either spent their lives hunting and gathering to feed cave chad, his harem, and his offspring while being bullied, intimidated, and killed in the heartless bloodbath of sexual competition and the only other option was to wander the earth alone until you die...
Brutal...
 
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Drink formaldehyde bro. Start a normie trend. Reject all water.
 
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No man the rope is the definitive way to die
 
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Too much to take in. Gonna bookmark this thread and come back to finish because seems interesting.
 
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there's no need for that because we have high caliber firearms than can blow up your brains in less than .5 second.

Those who are too miserable & gave up on life have already commited suicide, the rest of us are just coping
 
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there's no need for that because we have high caliber firearms than can blow up your brains in less than .5 second.

Those who are too miserable & gave up on life have already commited suicide, the rest of us are just coping
Starvation is better because you literally LDAR, it's the most nihilistic method because you stop caring about everything.
 
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Go back hundreds of thousands of years, when every femoid reproduced and only one out of seventeen men reproduced, when sixteen out of seventeen men either spent their lives hunting and gathering to feed cave chad, his harem, and his offspring while being bullied, intimidated, and killed in the heartless bloodbath of sexual competition and the only other option was to wander the earth alone until you die...
this still happens but it has transmuted into wageslaving

Chads, literally, don't work
 
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I'd rather die quickly rather than slowly and painfully.
 
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On the way 5'10 120 lbs wish me luck jfl
 
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I was thinking you could get an apartment with a balcony in a high traffic area. And then Prayopavesamax on the balcony.
 
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Over for Bobbysandscels.
 
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this still happens but it has transmuted into wageslaving

Chads, literally, don't work
It's worse now because if you kill chad you have to kill a hundred cucks too. Back then, if you killed chad before he tainted all the foids, you could take your pick and divide the rest among your fellow sub8s and be civilized.

I'd rather die quickly rather than slowly and painfully.
It's slow but it's not painful at all. I water fasted for 36 day and I felt really good the whole time. The hunger only lasts five days.

On the way 5'10 120 lbs wish me luck jfl
Damn, you going for a speedrun?
I was thinking you could get an apartment with a balcony in a high traffic area. And then Prayopavesamax on the balcony.
I was thinking about doing it at Tinder HQ.
 
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Interesting as fuck. Definitely one of the most based to go. The science of the Buddhist fast suicide is to shrink your organs, deactivate them before they use your muscle and shit. Therefore your body remains. This is so badass.
 
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We should go to city square to start the ultimate LDAR.
Let them watch us die
 
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We should go to city square to start the ultimate LDAR.
Let them watch us die
I legit want to do that, like the Incel Jim Jones without the Kool-Aid.
 
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I’ve considered it

as a bonus, you can use starvation to test if you really truly want to die or if it’s just a foid-tier “suicide attempt” without actually dying. If you choose food over death, then all it took was one nice dopamine spike to override your desire for death.

you can turn back at any point. You can’t turn back halfway down a cliff when you decide you don’t want to die
 
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I’ve considered it

as a bonus, you can use starvation to test if you really truly want to die or if it’s just a foid-tier “suicide attempt” without actually dying. If you choose food over death, then all it took was one nice dopamine spike to override your desire for death.

you can turn back at any point. You can’t turn back halfway down a cliff when you decide you don’t want to die
That's why I like this method. I'll probably go hobo and pan handle in the streets so I can buy lotto tickets, if I win enough to surgerymaxx, I'll go buy some Gardetto's and sweet red goon bag instead of dying.
 
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It's worse now because if you kill chad you have to kill a hundred cucks too. Back then, if you killed chad before he tainted all the foids, you could take your pick and divide the rest among your fellow sub8s and be civilized.


It's slow but it's not painful at all. I water fasted for 36 day and I felt really good the whole time. The hunger only lasts five days.


Damn, you going for a speedrun?

I was thinking about doing it at Tinder HQ.
Yes bro
 
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I did 20 days fasting, of course, I didn't died, but I don't want to suicide. My meditations got better and I felt more lightier (of course).

But these guys don't do it because they want suicide and hate life. They do purely for spiritual practice, they just want to be one with god.

Jainism is the most based religion ngl
 
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I did 20 days fasting, of course, I didn't died, but I don't want to suicide. My meditations got better and I felt more lightier (of course).

But these guys don't do it because they want suicide and hate life. They do purely for spiritual practice, they just want to be one with god.

Jainism is the most based religion ngl
I think Prayopavesa is for people who want to die but Sallekhana a spiritual practice reserved for elderly Jains. I think I read that both Chanakya and Chandragupta chose to fast to death when they became elderly.
 
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I would much rather eat myself to death than starve to death lol
 
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I would much rather eat myself to death than starve to death lol
Same. I'm a fat bitch and I love food. If I was truly suicidal I'd eat so much sugar and trash in one sitting I'd die from a heart attack.
 
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I would go ER instead
 
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The only suicide method more LDAR than starving is dehydration. Water is the key to life and if you're truly LDAR you wouldn't even care about the essential ingredient to life as we currently understand. It may be more miserable than starving but in true LDAR fashion. Symbolically, dehydration is the essence of that mentality.

However, you'd die in 3 days as opposed to 3 weeks. So I guess starvation is more LDAR in that sense of living while dying.
Air is the one essential humans can't go without for very long. From what I understand, asphyxiation is a rather euphoric method if you wanna die peacefully.
 
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The only suicide method more LDAR than starving is dehydration. Water is the key to life and if you're truly LDAR you wouldn't even care about the essential ingredient to life as we currently understand. It may be more miserable than starving but in true LDAR fashion. Symbolically, dehydration is the essence of that mentality.

However, you'd die in 3 days as opposed to 3 weeks. So I guess starvation is more LDAR in that sense of living while dying.
Air is the one essential humans can't go without for very long. From what I understand, asphyxiation is a rather euphoric method if you wanna die peacefully.
In Sallekhana, they often give up water completely at the very end. Dehydration is painful and unpleasant, it can cause permanent damage if you decide to turn back at the last second. I get what you're saying though. I plan on pan handling while I starve myself to death so I can buy wine to drink every day while I wait. Not going to meditate on spirituality and shit, that's for people who don't hate themselves and everything about life.. I'll just bring some books to read while I wait.
 
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When I was in HS, during Philosophy classes, I was exposed to Hegesias ideas and his death by starvation, he convinced me.
 
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I'd rather save up ~$100K and NEE(eat)T myself to death eating at home playing games for a year or two
 
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I'd rather save up ~$100K and NEE(eat)T myself to death eating at home playing games for a year or two
That's enough to surgerymaxx and have elite status in a third world country. No need to die when you have that kind of money.
 
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Good post

But animals fast as a intuitive healing technique. It forces the body into repair mode. Sometimes it fails.

Usually fasting increases life (by removing toxins) but it depends on the breakfast diet. Such as high value greens and carbs.

Fasting is too slow to kill. But it works without access to fresh green foods.
 
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Good post

But animals fast as a intuitive healing technique. It forces the body into repair mode. Sometimes it fails.

Usually fasting increases life (by removing toxins) but it depends on the breakfast diet. Such as high value greens and carbs.

Fasting is too slow to kill. But it works without access to fresh green foods.
 
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lmao not gonna read all that but your dog stopped eating because he was sick, not because he knew it would kill him
 
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lmao not gonna read all that but your dog stopped eating because he was sick, not because he knew it would kill him
It was a foid dog. She was a bull dyke boxer who went ER on other dogs and black people a lot.
 
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extremely woke and based. I will be doing this at some point maybe in 5-10 years when I feel my Meditation has peaked. will be sure to do it publicly as fuck you to bluepillers
 
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You have covinced me when its the end of the line for me I will attempt this but I feel I need a quick death due to my fear of what comes after I dont think I can go through with a slow death painful too

the most painful might be death by fire
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