Soy Female Virginity for marriage isn't a "Trad Christian or Muslim" thing.

[VirginAutistManlet]

This shit started in ancient Greece 1000+ years before modern "trad" religion existed.

All females married at 15 on average.

All females had to be virgins for marriage.

All females were controlled by their father on who they married, if father was not alive, it was done by the uncles, if they were dead, it was done by the state.

Females had no voting rights.

Females were not allowed to participate in the Olympics (look at modern female athletes )

Females had no inheritance rights. (except in Sparta)

The only expectation females had were to have children and take care of them.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Islam and Christianity gave this type of marriage a framework with which it could survive until the modern day.

The problem with pagan societies is that tend to degenerate completely as soon as they reach a prosperous age.

Islam and Christianity provide a lasting value system. Although Christianity has been really weakened and abandoned in the West, but it did last for a long time.

 

[KingOfRome]

Yeah average marriage age for pre-industrial times was anywhere from 14 to 22 depending on the society. Marriage past 25 is contemporary social cancer.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Yeah average marriage age for pre-industrial times was anywhere from 14 to 22 depending on the society. Marriage past 25 is contemporary social cancer.

There were times when it was later in certain locations.

I think the average age went up to 25 at some point in Western Europe in the 16th century or something.

The marriages were economical back then, you had to afford dowry.

Sometimes economical reasons prevented people from marrying young. It wasn't as simple as just getting some virgin young girl.

I think at some point a stark difference between Western and Eastern Europe started developing (in the latter people still married young).

Western European marriage pattern - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Christiantradcuck cope. Ancient greece/Roman empire are much more important than this whore whorship religion.
Times are changing and some cant accept it.

 

[TheNEET]

yeah, notice how in many languages the words for "girl", "unmarried foid" and "virgin" are the same word (and they're not loanwords)

 

[KingOfRome]

There were times when it was later in certain locations.

I think the average age went up to 25 at some point in Western Europe in the 16th century or something.

The marriages were economical back then, you had to afford dowry.

Sometimes economical reasons prevented people from marrying young. It wasn't as simple as just getting some virgin young girl.

I think at some point a stark difference between Western and Eastern Europe started developing (in the latter people still married young).

Western European marriage pattern - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Marriage seems antiquated nowadays. Its entire purpose is to bind nuclear families together and create new ones. Now that the nuclear family is becoming obsolete, marriage is following suit.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Marriage seems antiquated nowadays. Its entire purpose is to bind nuclear families together and create new ones. Now that the nuclear family is becoming obsolete, marriage is following suit.

Nuclear family is modern shit from 19th century.

The real traditional family is extended family. We need to restore a clannish society with blood vengeance and honor killings.

 

[KingOfRome]

Nuclear family is modern shit from 19th century.

The real traditional family is extended family. We need to restore a clannish society with blood vengeance and honor killings.

It's just a smaller social unit that's always been around. It just seems more important in modern times compared to older ones because the extended family became less important. The atomization of mankind has been happening for centuries already.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

It's just a smaller social unit that's always been around. It just seems more important in modern times compared to older ones because the extended family became less important. The atomization of mankind has been happening for centuries already.

Nuclear family and extended family are totally opposed to each other. You need to support extended family and clans and be against nuclear family.

 

[KingOfRome]

Nuclear family and extended family are totally opposed to each other. You need to support extended family and clans and be against nuclear family.

How? You don't need to cut your extended family off or move to a separate household to have a nuclear one. People in nuclear families have extended family meetings all the time.

 

[Salustio]

Greek philosophers reproduced only because their society told them to do so, it was a social duty for some men. If you are forced to marry, of course you have to do it.

 

[Emba]

The nuclear family has been detonated!

 

[DunSorbus]

Islam and Christianity gave this type of marriage a framework with which it could survive until the modern day.

The problem with pagan societies is that tend to degenerate completely as soon as they reach a prosperous age.

Islam and Christianity provide a lasting value system. Although Christianity has been really weakened and abandoned in the West, but it did last for a long time.

VERY high IQ. I had some inkling of this already but I never connected the dots the way you just did before me.

 

[FinnCel]

Women were given the chance to prove themselves but they themselves decided to be mere whores.
Their rights should be taken away to prevent more whoredom