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Serious Game Quitters, NoFap and Dopamine Detox

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Guys, I think I'm going to stop gaming and do a dopamine fast.
I'm already 20 years old and I have nothing and lately I'm trying to change my life.
I want to share something that could help some of you. First I'll talk about what is dopamine and how important it is.
In the brain, dopamine functions as a neurotransmitter. It affects many aspects of your behavior, some of which include learning, motivation, and mood.
I want to show you an interesting experiment made with mice.
In the first scenario it had a normal mouse, it has an electrochemical detector in his brain and he could get as much dopamine as it wants.
The results was that it doesn't want to eat nor drink, it just wants get more and more dopamine all day because he didn't want anything, but feel pleasure and it become addicted to the dopamine.
The second scenario it had a mouse unable to synthesize dopamine (DA) and it became hypoactive and stopped feeding a few weeks after birth, but it would eat if the food was placed in his mouth, but it hadn't motivation to go after the food by itself.
Conclusion: it means that if you get too much dopamine you'll become addicted and if you don't get enough dopamine you'll not have motivation to do anything, so your dopamine level must be balanced.

The dopamine is like a drug, for example, when a person starts to drink in the first few times, he becomes drunk very easily, but along the time he will have to drink much more to become drunk. ( @FinnCel could you confirm that? )
That means that we become tolerant to dopamine like we became tolerant to drugs and you'll have to get much more dopamine in order to achieve the same effects that a smaller amount used to provide.

I'll give you an example of how important it is to do a dopamine fasting.


There are 2 kids.
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A poor kid and a rich kid.

The poor kid almost doesn't have food to eat and live in a simple house and don't get many gifts, but he's happy and have much fun when he's playing with his wheel.
the rich kid every year receive a new and a better gift like an Iphone, xbox, tv and he can eat a lot of junk food and play on his playstation 4 pro anytime and every year the kid wants a better gift, but somehow the rich kid is constantly sad because he always wants a better gift and it isn't easy for him to get pleased unlike the poor kid that is much more pleased with a wheel.
as Socrates said:
"The secret of happiness, you see, is not found in seeking more, but in developing the capacity to enjoy less.”

You can see that in this scenario the poor kid has much more dopamine receptors than the rich kid that became tolerant to dopamine.

What does it all mean?
it means that if you fap, play videogames and eat junk food all day, your brain will become tolerant to dopamine and in order to get the same level of pleasure as you had before you'll need much more dopamine and when you have to study or do something that demands too much motivation, it will be a torture because you'll need much more energy and motivation and you won't have enough receptors in order to study or do something harder.




If your problem is too much dopamine, you'll need to decrease the dopamine level in your brain and doing a dopamine detox, your receptors will (reset) increase along the time.

You'll need to stop gaming, fapping, watching youtube, browsing or any coping and along the time you'll get more energy, motivation to do anything you want.

you can do 15 minutes of a task that gives you a lot of dopamine and 1 hour of a task that gives you little dopamine like 15 minutes of gaming and 1 hour of studying.
( I don't recommend. )

and now I'll talk about the Game quitters community.
Game Quitters is a community for those who want to quit playing video games and get their life back.
and they have a forum and there I'll do a daily journal telling about my dopamine detox, my routine and my journey in order to get a better life.
They even have a hobby tool lot that it gives some activities to replace gaming.

I hope this information will be useful for some of you to become more productive and happier, I just wanted to tell you that you're not alone buddy boyo

resources





Game Quitters forum

Hobby tool
 
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Dont buy into this bullshit normie self help garbage. As if playing a guitar and learning how to wear stupid fashionable clothes is better than playing video games.

There is no science to support any dopamine detox. Its not real, you cant just “detox” from dopamine, thats not how it works, thats just something these self help snake oil salesman peddle.

Instead, do what you want to do. If you dont want to play video games and you want to do something else, then do that. Why do you need a dopamine detox? If you cant do it, you cant do it. You cant become a more productive person with a dopamine detox
literally just thing you enjoy = bad, things middle class boomers enjoy = good
You summed up the whole dopamine detox movement in one sentence
 
not for me bro, i'll kep playing vidya, jerking off to hardcore porn, smoking cigarettes, smoking hash, watch gore videos

i'll burn all my dopamine receptors so i feel nothing no more
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Over4u ngl
 
@Diocel @mental_out @SkinjobCatastrophe
just do it if you believe that this is somehow disturbing your life.
I'm not telling you that you should stop gaming to do some other thing. I'm just telling that if you want to become more productive, you could just try it out.
there is a difference between playing 1 hour and be addicted playing 4 + hours per day.
read it again what I posted, but carefully.
if you cant become a more productive person with a dopamine detox then continue playing vidya, jerking off to hardcore porn, smoking cigarettes, smoking hash, watch gore videos.
continue with this hedonistic lifestyle, but I just wanted to tell you that life is more than that.
there are a lot of stories of people that have done dopamine detox and changed their life.
you can't just get rid of habits, you can only replace them.
if you see that as bad for you, then try doing a dopamine detox and replace these "bad" habits for good ones.
 
Why would I try this out any more than I'd try out most of the trash advice IT throws around? I don't sit around playing video games because I'm addicted to video games
I'm not telling you to try.
just try if you feel that if it's bad for you. if you play all day and can't do anything, but playing video games maybe you're addicted and that can help.
 
If I stop doing those things then what the fuck do I do?
 
If I stop doing those things then what the fuck do I do?

replace your habits, for example, if you play 6 hours try playing 1 hour and fill the other 5 hours with other hobbies and tasks to improve your life if it's good for you.

I'm not saying that other hobbies are better than gaming. I'm just telling that just playing videos games all day can be bad
 
But video games are no more addictive than any of the other things they suggested. The articles about addiction you posted are talking about direct chemical addictions, like drugs, which directly affect dopamine. Video games do not do that, they're not different from literally any of the other activities suggested for that. This is just stuff made by people who just dislike video games for whatever reason and have used pseudoscience to try and demonise them, while promoting "traditional" activities instead, despite the fact that video games are no more intrinsically harmful than any traditional activities.

Hell there's probably more people who've died from bodybuilding related stuff than from video games (eg all the dudes who died from steroids because they became obsessed with getting bigger and bigger). But because bodybuilding is seen as a traditional thing men are supposed to do, people overlook that, whereas video games are new so they're obviously evil. It's just dumb.
you didn't understand yet what I'm trying to say.

anything can be addictive, but these things are just suggestions to replace your gaming addiction.
If you want to do something like studying, do a harder task or feel more pleasure in your life that demands motivation you should try that.

it could be anything.
could be gaming addiction or chess addiction it doesn't matter addiction is addiction and yes, gaming is more addictive than every other thing suggested there because gaming gives you too much pleasure and you'll have to do low effort to get it.

I'm not telling that games are bad, but video game addiction is.

Edit: Ok, I'll tell again the mice experiment, but with more detail
it had a lever to the first mouse and every time it lifted that lever it would get an extreme amount of dopamine and it happened that the mouse didn't do anything, but lift the lever because all he wants is feel pleasure and nothing more. it wasn't even eating.
if we have a lever that did the same thing, we would be only lifting that lever and nothing more
the lever could be related to gaming, porn or drugs.
 
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Iq post but normal human beings never had to devise a plan to stop touching their dick for months to attract a girl. It just happened because its normal. And if it didnt happen to you it means you are not normal.
 
Video games are not the same as directly pressing a button that releases dopamine, video games release dopamine the same way any other activity will. Pressing a button to release dopamine is more analogous with drugs where you are artificially inducing it, not video games which release it the natural way.
how part of low effort and high pleasure you didn't understand.

I know you're trying to defend your point, but if you didn't get addicted then there isn't a problem playing video games.

Addiction is the problem


"Video game addiction is a real condition. Imagine all those neurotransmitters firing and that natural high you feel as a result, but you unplug and carry on with life and what you need to do. Now imagine having to play more and more often to get the same level of happiness and everything – relationships, job, your health – fall by the wayside because you MUST play. That is the difference where too much video games outweighs the positive benefits and you enter the realm of true addiction. As you can tell, my opinion is moderation and limits around this type of technology, a little bit is good but too much can have consequences. An educational game that teaches a child to spell by offering rewards for a job well done is awesome, but when it skews to the other side and effects the wiring of the brain, that is a serious issue. "
Video games are not the same as directly pressing a button that releases dopamin
Yes, it is almost the same...
 
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Vidya and direct dopamine administration are not the same things.
 
Vidya and direct dopamine administration are not the same things.
dopamine is dopamine at the end of the day.
what are you talking about? it doesn't matter if it's video games or drugs, dopamine is dopamine
 
dopamine is dopamine at the end of the day.
what are you talking about? it doesn't matter if it's video games or drugs, dopamine is dopamine
Dopamine is dopamone sure, yet the effect of a drug like coke and vidya on dopamine receptors is quite not the same.
Vidya is just like other hobbies in that regard. If you want to "protect" your dopamine, just stop having hobbies at all.
 
Vidya is just like other hobbies in that regard. If you want to "protect" your dopamine, just stop having hobbies at all.
I'm not talking about stop having hobbies
I'm talking about the addiction and high level of dopamine. it's not about protecting dopamine, it's about "reseting" your dopamine receptors.
look at people nowadays have a high level of dopamine and even so people are not pleased, and to become pleased they need a higher level of dopamine.
your receptors could be used to do different things like studying or doing a harder task instead of just gaming.
if you just play games all day, when you go to study, you won't feel any pleasure or motivation doing that because there aren't receptors enough for that
that's what I'm trying to talk about.
 
Whitepill approach, I like it.

I think many are hostile to this as it's as if you are telling us to cut out videogames entirely.
 
Whitepill approach, I like it.

I think many are hostile to this as it's as if you are telling us to cut out video games entirely.
Yeah, it's like talking to an alcoholic to just stop drinking.
there is no problem in drinking, the problem is when you drink too much and that consequently affects your life.
 
I’m not addicted to fapping or gaming tbh
 
willpowermogs me if u pull this off tbh
Whitepill approach, I like it.

I think many are hostile to this as it's as if you are telling us to cut out videogames entirely.
 
I think my dopamine levels are fine but I have no idea how you’re supposed to measure that stuff
When I was playing 10 hours non stop without feeling pleasure and having nothing more interesting to do, yeah it was at that moment I knew my life was over and I should do something to change it.

I don't have motivation to do anything nor eat. I just play all day... I was like that mouse that was receiving dopamine all day.
I just wanted more and more dopamine by gaming and I couldn't do anything, but gaming

I had some hobbies, but I've lost all motivation and pleasure for them.
I used to draw, read, code, run and study math and I felt pleasure doing that stuff, but nowadays I don't feel any motivation to do these stuff
 
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When I was playing 10 hours non stop without feeling pleasure and having nothing more interesting to do, yeah it was at that moment I knew my life was over and I should do something to change it.
Yea I reached that point as well and I just stopped playing, took a break, then played some more. The time I spend on it has been drastically reduced from what I once had before.
 
More power to you OP, but damn don't understand how people can play video games all day. Shit gets boring for me.
 
Yea I reached that point as well and I just stopped playing, took a break, then played some more. The time I spend on it has been drastically reduced from what I once had before.
Yeah, that's a good solution.
Most people can't just stop gaming, because they believe that if they stop gaming and fapping, they won't be able to replace gaming for another interesting hobby.
if a person is used to play 8 hours per day and decide to play only 2, what will he do for the next 6 hours? there are the hobby tool you can use.
you can only change your life if you want and a bad habit can't be erased, but replaced
More power to you OP, but damn don't understand how people can play video games all day. Shit gets boring for me.
It's because dopamine is addictive and it's easy to play all day.
you just turn on your console, play and feel happy. It's much more difficult to feel motivation and pleasure by reading a book, doing math questions or drawing. You can feel pleasure, but as long as you continue playing all day and receiving these high amount of dopamine, it will reduce your dopamine receptors and you won't feel much motivation or pleasure by doing these activities.
 
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Yeah man I tried something like this last year where I gave up playing video games. This was about the time I joined here though so my newfound free time was just spent here instead
 
Cope, cope, and cope
 
not for me bro, i'll kep playing vidya, jerking off to hardcore porn, smoking cigarettes, smoking hash, watch gore videos

i'll burn all my dopamine receptors so i feel nothing no more
Live fast die young niggA
 

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