ON INCELS AND HOW SHE EXPECTS A DRASTIC INCREASING NUMBERS
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: You describe the aggression of sexually frustrated men. But wouldn't it increase if, as you suggest, we return to the principle of choosing women to get out of this toxic situation? Large parts would not be chosen by women, but would be left over and had to resort to pornography and sex workers, for example.
Stoverock: One pattern of Female Choice is that 80 percent of women choose 20 percent of men. The ones that make the most of civilization. But the others don't necessarily have to be pathetic or pathetic. If we go back to the animal world, then the male who cannot find a partner is the norm. The premium male, which has no problem reproducing, is the exception. With all this consideration of basic biological patterns, one has to keep in mind that none of us has chosen this. Neither women chose to have the children, nor did the men choose to have women choose their partners.
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: What would it look like in the present when we return to Female Choice?
Stoverock: I think the number of Incels would increase dramatically. The violence against women that has been observed up to now would then only be the beginning of a dramatic, socially endangering development. We must therefore take prompt action to catch these involuntarily abstaining men.
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: And how could that happen?
Stoverock: By changing the narrative. We have to find ways in which men can become respectable as men even without sexual success. Anyone who is successful with women is automatically a great pike, while the other is a poor sausage. Whether he's funny, a great musician, a fantastic storyteller: these qualities don't count. And that leads to the fact that even a boy who does not find a girlfriend in his school days grows up feeling like a failure. In principle, the core of this entire male culture for 10,000 years was getting a 1: 1 supply. Every man gets a woman.
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: But isn't initmacy also important, for both men and women? Isnt life more then satisfying basic needs [for suvival]?
Stoverock: Exactly. The need for intimacy and contact is gender-independent. But physical automatisms also play a role in sexuality. Because, on the one hand, men feel that involuntary abstinence is accompanied by an increase in frustration and aggressiveness. Sex breaks down testosterone, the hormone that can also lead to aggression. And I believe that at the beginning of the sedentary lifestyle, men felt that they had to get this potential for aggression under control in order to live permanently in a large community of men and women in one place. Otherwise they would be toxic to such a society. And that's why it was so important to provide men with basic sexual care.
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: If women would vote again, which men would they choose according to the female choice principle - tall, broad-shouldered, good teeth, in order to really go into the cliché?
Stoverock: Individual preferences can be different, but there are observable patterns that persist. The fact that men are on average six inches taller than women today shows that women have preferred tall men for likely hundreds of thousands of years. And there is research showing that when women are ovulating and their whole bodies are ready to reproduce, they want athletic daredevils. Outside of this evolutionary phase, however, they definitely choose the reliable type of provider that does not cause any trouble at home.
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: According to the female choice principle, far fewer men would become fathers, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the birth rates will decrease. You take Norway as an example, where the number of men who do not have children has increased from 12 to 23 percent in the last 30 years. At the same time, the number of "recycled" men who have women with several children has increased. Sounds difficult for those who can't find a partner.
Stoverock: I'm not saying that female choice makes living together easier. But it would be of great help if this whole socio-political discourse also opened up to biological facts. Sedentary civilization has lasted 10,000 years now, but we are faced with injustice on every nook and cranny. Neither have I yet found an answer to how one can really combine the positive from male civilization - art, science, medicine - with the positive from natural female sexuality. And the positive in the men's world was only possible through oppression and exploitation, that is the structural imbalance. Monogamous marriage only clears the man's mind - free from sexual competition. So that he can go out and devote himself to his big thoughts.
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ON CUCKING AND HOW ITS NATURAL FOR WOMEN TO STOP LOVING THEIR PARTNER AND TO CUCK THEM
Stoverock: Many people don't even realize that this is a normal phenomenon: the female libido has something like an expiration date. Of course, the bond is particularly close as long as the child is small and the woman is therefore very dependent on support. But as soon as the child becomes independent, that changes. In native peoples it is completely normal for a woman to have children from several partners who are born three to four years apart. That is the biological pattern. That does not mean that it cannot be otherwise and that a woman does not have all the children with a partner with all her heart. But it is just not typical of our biology. And I find it highly problematic that a natural biological pattern is pathologized. In fact, it is more women who lose lust, who no longer desire their partner. And they are then persuaded that you have to create more situations as a couple to get in the mood.
ZEITmagazin ONLINE: And how is it with men?
Stoverock: For men, decreasing desire is almost never a problem. Many men still want to sleep regularly with their partner even after many years of relationship. Here you can see that the lifelong partnership was created with the purpose of basic sexual care for men and not out of love. The man really just needs regular access. As long as there is enough sex, he has no reason to change anything about the arrangement. That is why women are also the most likely to file for divorce.