[Blackpill] "Going Out" & "Staying Healthy" As An Incel Just Makes You Suffer More (Practically Everything In Life Is Connected To/Revolves Around Sex)

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You've all heard the typical normie advice of "just go out and do some things you enjoy" and/or "eat healthy and stay fit", they don't seem to get that these things can't really be enjoyed by someone who is sexually starved and/or doesn't have a partner

I was watching a stand up comedy special recently (on my computer obviously) and I noticed something so obvious that for some reason I never noticed before (probably because I was just focused on the comedian and their jokes). All these shows and specials are littered with couple pairings sitting next to eachother, the only time I ever saw someone who looked like they were alone, they were female

As an incel you can't even really enjoy laughter or going out to "have fun" because all you are going to see is couples having fun enjoying something you have yearned for and never experienced.

It really made me think, imagine planning to go to the next show of your favorite comedian, you buy the ticket, its pricey but you think its worth the entertainment, you pay for your flight (if required) and sit through the hours of waiting to get there, you arrive at the outlet and take your seat, you start to notice one by one the room gets flooded by couples, cuddling, holding hands, giggling, but you ignore it because you are here for the show so it doesn't really bug you, the show starts and as the show goes on a joke about sex always comes up, and at each of these jokes you can see couples around you sending IOI's and giving each other "the look", and you are just there, in the moment, unable to "participate"

You see, these shows are more than just about the actual show contrary to what everyone will tell you, there's a social element to it, really and truly you shouldn't even be there if you don't have a partner because you can't take part in a core aspect of the experience (laughing together).

Also in that scenario you now have to hope that he doesn't switch to "insult comic mode" and point out the fact that you are there on your own. You could go to the show with a friend I guess, but the loneliness of not having a romantic partner will still be foisted in your face over and over and over.

You can't even enjoy a public performance that's sole purpose is to make you happy, because that performance essentially revolves around something you can't get and have never experienced, watching comedy behind a screen is enjoyable, but at the actual event it would be a completely different experience, because you won't be disconnected from the audience and the social aspect of the show, aspects that you can't participate in, and will make you feel less than throughout the entire experience

Now on the topic of health, recently I started to take a multivitamin, about a week in of taking this daily multivitamin, my libido shot up. All I could do was laugh as I realized there is no fucking escape. I take a multivitamin to boost my health so I can be somewhat happy, and it has that effect, but it also boosts my libido, which makes he hornier than ever, which makes me think about sex more and yearn for it more, which makes me more depressed than usual, and when I'm depressed, I just end up eating fast food JFL

I know, I know, "just don't eat fast food"

True, I could do that, but at those moments I literally feel like dying, and good tasting food gives me the dopamine spike I need to keep going, I seriously just feel like dying, like it would be a blessing if died on the spot, I feel completely drained. Eating fast food and putting on a little weight seems like a small tradeoff to get rid of that level of depression

What normies don't seem to get is that being "healthy" means that your body will function at its optimum, and if you are functioning at your optimum so is your sex drive, so imagine if I were exercising and fit on top of supplementing, I'd probably be even more horny and then even more depressed and tired of life

Everything in life as a biological creature comes down to sex, EVERYTHING

There's is practically nothing you can enjoy, if your sex needs aren't being met, because THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED

One thing I will never stop doing is wealthmaxxing, because it is the only path a man has to changing his life, but when it comes to a lot of other stuff, I can completely understand the LDAR mentality, when faced with the ABSOLUTE FUTILITY of trying to ignore/escape ones sex drive, basically everything revolves around sex.
 
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I used to think humour was funny... Until i noticed all the jews. Now i cringe at humour! That shit isn't funny anyone.!
 
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when out of the house, i try the most to ignore couples or females talking to another males
 
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Even grocery shopping is mostly women with kids or couples shopping. I rarely see a single ugly guy shopping. All of life is about reproduction, that’s the only thing that matters in life.
 
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True, this is why I stopped putting so much effort into NTmaxxing. I socialised and acted like a normie for years (went out and everything) but all of it was futile since I never had a partner with me and had to do everything as the third/fifth/seventh wheel and it never improved my relationship chances. I ended up being the butt of all the jokes and was lonelier than ever.

Plus I used to be really picky with what I ate (calorie-counting) etc while I was working out. However once I saw some Chad acquaintances constantly eating nothing but takeaway and still having bodies like Greek Gods it really killed my drive in that respect since most of it is down to your genetics. Now I just eat a balance of good food and take away, but in moderation and feel a lot better (it hasn't affected by work out results at all by the way).
 
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and if you stay inside playing vidya and eating doritos you won't be reminded that you're alone, right?
 
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Agree with the first part. There are very few activities you can enjoy when you're single.

Second part idk, because staying healthy can improve your mood, anxiety, etc.
 
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Agree with the first part. There are very few activities you can enjoy when you're single.

Second part idk, because staying healthy can improve your mood, anxiety, etc.
I hear you, I try to exercise for say, 1 hour and 30 minutes - 2 hours each day at a gym, but then afterwards I might feel good for say 20 minutes, and then I go up to my room and feel like shit
 
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This reminds me of my favourite thewitchking post where he responded to someone advocating "going out and staying healthy" as an incel.

Before I proceed to write what I feel myself compelled to, let me offer a tiny defense of myself. For more than a decade, a span of time experienced as excruciatingly long or terrifyingly short depending upon how you spend it, I swore myself to the very same gospel you're attempting to preach here. As an exceptionally ugly man, a thing relegated to the penumbra cast by Nature's radiance, languishing in that twilight world reserved for those who are unable to live as men do but have yet to go wherever it is they do after they breathe their very last breath, I did my very damnedest to ameliorate my own damnation. I would spend weekend after weekend going out to watch films alone. Before I watched those pictures, I'd treat myself myself to meals I thought would provide me the tiniest bit of pleasure. Later I would read the works of poets and philosophers I'd have some admiration for. Every so often I would take a tour of our humble little state museum, the same my father took my brother and I to every weekend, desperate to concoct some potion brewed of nostalgia and beauty to alleviate the pain of something that had been born to live as a man but had been condemned to do so as a monster.

Sadly, all of my attempts at this desperate bit of slight-of-hand eventually failed me. To my credit, I worked the trick effectively enough for years upon years. Unfortunately, the day came when my jugglery at long last failed me. I went to dinner alone and was no longer able to note that I was the only one eating alone. I was surrounded by countless couples laughing together, sitting beside each other, holding each other's hands with all of the primal thrill of anyone who's been given license to participate in Nature's absurd passion play. Every morsel of food I ate became ash in my mouth. Sit in some theater hoping to enjoy a bit of art or, failing that, a couple of hours of escape, and there would always be the couple asking me to move so they could have the same experience as I was seeking while sitting next to each other. Which meant, of course, their experience would be fundamentally different than mine. When I returned to my tiny apartment after this sojourns into the land of the living, daring in a sense because each one was trespassing into a realm forbidden to me, I would try to read the works of those philosophers and poets I had once enjoyed for so very long in a desperate attempt to find some solace. Perhaps I could find something like joy breathing the dust of old books written by men long dead; maybe, just maybe, I could learn whatever occult secrets that gave those who lived in the twilight realm I found myself in the strength to keep living. Sadly, the poets all discussed the joys of erotic love. They may have done so through metaphor, they may have pretended to have aspired to something greater than the sensation of another person's skin upon their own, but eventually you can't help but notice the eternal thread winding its way through every work of philosophy, poetry or art. Though Dante harrowed Hell led by grim Virgil, he was able to do so because the loveliness of Beatrice was forever before him. Faust may have sold his soul in a wild gambit to learn the mysteries forbidden to men but it was the Eternal Feminine, the experience of which the vast majority men enjoy, and consequently take for granted, that rescued him from Lord Satan's grasp. You eventually realize that every single one of Nietzsche's aphorisms, supposed misogynist thought he was, was guided, inspired and informed by his unrequited love of the brilliant and beautiful Lou Salome.

To live in seclusion, to try and find beauty in isolation, has always been unnatural and always will be. Though cursed with the appearance of monsters, we abominations still have the spirits of men. We feel ourselves compelled to conform to the dictates of the creator God who said, in His infinite wisdom, that no man was meant to be alone. If called upon to indict Him for the crimes of either ineptitude or cruelty, we will always be able to offer ourselves up as undeniable evidence in the case lodged against Him.

Not that it matters, when all is said and done and every tally counted. The incel may serve as a living and breathing indictment of Nature's goodness but, fortunately enough, eventually all of the evidence in question will someday slip from the murky penumbra to the umbra completely beyond the reach of Her light. The most valuable child God and Nature produced during the course of their endless fucking was Death, the only one of their offspring with power to silence the voices of those with the authority to rightfully accuse both beautiful Mother and omniscient Father.

We should be able to find happiness by ourselves; it would be the proper compensation offered up to the things who are so repulsive that they have no choice but to go to the grave alone. Yet Father and Mother resent their errors, despise them, consider them nightmares that somehow had the strength to crawl from midnight into twilight. Unable to make the ugly happy, which would be blasphemy against natural law, they watch and wait and heave a final sigh of relief when Death comes and drags the ugly beneath the horizon, down into Sheol, where each and every one of their mistakes can be mercifully forgotten.
 
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and if you stay inside playing vidya and eating doritos you won't be reminded that you're alone, right?
Actually yes you won't, not unless you go out of your way to think about it, and even if the idea just pops into your head sometimes (it always does), it isn't as "traumatic" or depressing because it isn't in your face, and you are relaxed in a familiar environment

Its simple really, you have two choices

1. Feel depressed and want to kill yourself in places that make you uncomfortable, surrounded by strangers who are all looking down on you

2. Feel depressed and want to kill yourself in the comfort of your home, with peace and quiet, doing things you enjoy

Its a simple choice really
 
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I was watching a stand up comedy special recently (on my computer obviously) and I noticed something so obvious that for some reason I never noticed before (probably because I was just focused on the comedian and their jokes). All these shows and specials are littered with couple pairings sitting next to eachother, the only time I ever saw someone who looked like they were alone, they were female

As an incel you can't even really enjoy laughter or going out to "have fun" because all you are going to see is couples having fun enjoying something you have yearned for and never experienced.

It really made me think, imagine planning to go to the next show of your favorite comedian, you buy the ticket, its pricey but you think its worth the entertainment, you pay for your flight (if required) and sit through the hours of waiting to get there, you arrive at the outlet and take your seat, you start to notice one by one the room gets flooded by couples, cuddling, holding hands, giggling, but you ignore it because you are here for the show so it doesn't really bug you, the show starts and as the show goes on a joke about sex always comes up, and at each of these jokes you can see couples around you sending IOI's and giving each other "the look", and you are just there, in the moment, unable to "participate"

You see, these shows are more than just about the actual show contrary to what everyone will tell you, there's a social element to it, really and truly you shouldn't even be there if you don't have a partner because you can't take part in a core aspect of the experience (laughing together).

Also in that scenario you now have to hope that he doesn't switch to "insult comic mode" and point out the fact that you are there on your own. You could go to the show with a friend I guess, but the loneliness of not having a romantic partner will still be foisted in your face over and over and over.

You can't even enjoy a public performance that's sole purpose is to make you happy, because that performance essentially revolves around something you can't get and have never experienced, watching comedy behind a screen is enjoyable, but at the actual event it would be a completely different experience, because you won't be disconnected from the audience and the social aspect of the show, aspects that you can't participate in, and will make you feel less than throughout the entire experience
I dont know if every couple is the way you describe it, I often see men getting cucked, and women say to their men "shut up" and stuff like that, its funny to me because i am blackpilled. How many times a man has to not laught in order to not ofend mylady, it's not all that bad. Though going to shop sucks dick, i will admit that.
 
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everything in this society is built upon sex
 
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You've all heard the typical normie advice of "just go out and do some things you enjoy" and/or "eat healthy and stay fit", they don't seem to get that these things can't really be enjoyed by someone who is sexually starved and/or doesn't have a partner

I was watching a stand up comedy special recently (on my computer obviously) and I noticed something so obvious that for some reason I never noticed before (probably because I was just focused on the comedian and their jokes). All these shows and specials are littered with couple pairings sitting next to eachother, the only time I ever saw someone who looked like they were alone, they were female

As an incel you can't even really enjoy laughter or going out to "have fun" because all you are going to see is couples having fun enjoying something you have yearned for and never experienced.

It really made me think, imagine planning to go to the next show of your favorite comedian, you buy the ticket, its pricey but you think its worth the entertainment, you pay for your flight (if required) and sit through the hours of waiting to get there, you arrive at the outlet and take your seat, you start to notice one by one the room gets flooded by couples, cuddling, holding hands, giggling, but you ignore it because you are here for the show so it doesn't really bug you, the show starts and as the show goes on a joke about sex always comes up, and at each of these jokes you can see couples around you sending IOI's and giving each other "the look", and you are just there, in the moment, unable to "participate"

You see, these shows are more than just about the actual show contrary to what everyone will tell you, there's a social element to it, really and truly you shouldn't even be there if you don't have a partner because you can't take part in a core aspect of the experience (laughing together).

Also in that scenario you now have to hope that he doesn't switch to "insult comic mode" and point out the fact that you are there on your own. You could go to the show with a friend I guess, but the loneliness of not having a romantic partner will still be foisted in your face over and over and over.

You can't even enjoy a public performance that's sole purpose is to make you happy, because that performance essentially revolves around something you can't get and have never experienced, watching comedy behind a screen is enjoyable, but at the actual event it would be a completely different experience, because you won't be disconnected from the audience and the social aspect of the show, aspects that you can't participate in, and will make you feel less than throughout the entire experience

Now on the topic of health, recently I started to take a multivitamin, about a week in of taking this daily multivitamin, my libido shot up. All I could do was laugh as I realized there is no fucking escape. I take a multivitamin to boost my health so I can be somewhat happy, and it has that effect, but it also boosts my libido, which makes he hornier than ever, which makes me think about sex more and yearn for it more, which makes me more depressed than usual, and when I'm depressed, I just end up eating fast food JFL

I know, I know, "just don't eat fast food"

True, I could do that, but at those moments I literally feel like dying, and good tasting food gives me the dopamine spike I need to keep going, I seriously just feel like dying, like it would be a blessing if died on the spot, I feel completely drained. Eating fast food and putting on a little weight seems like a small tradeoff to get rid of that level of depression

What normies don't seem to get is that being "healthy" means that your body will function at its optimum, and if you are functioning at your optimum so is your sex drive, so imagine if I were exercising and fit on top of supplementing, I'd probably be even more horny and then even more depressed and tired of life

Everything in life as a biological creature comes down to sex, EVERYTHING

There's is practically nothing you can enjoy, if your sex needs aren't being met, because THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED

One thing I will never stop doing is wealthmaxxing, because it is the only path a man has to changing his life, but when it comes to a lot of other stuff, I can completely understand the LDAR mentality, when faced with the ABSOLUTE FUTILITY of trying to ignore/escape ones sex drive, basically everything revolves around sex.
Its just western society that has developed an obsession with sex. Sex sells EVERYTHING. show a hot girl biting some huge, greasy sandwhich she wouldnt otherwise even look at and sales go up. Show some shirtless model dude posing for a freaking cologne ad and sales go up. Promote trash tv like jersey shore where everyone is literally fucking everyone and ratings go up. The show Sex and the city blatantly promotes that females continue being hypergamous whores well after reaching their peak fertillity. It's a cancerous exploit to our more animalistic tendencies that only results in the eventual downfall of society. The women are empowered and beat down on the men until there wont be enough of them left to support this degeneracy. They'll all be sexually frustrated 30 year olds that want it all to burn while chad and stacy will be too busy fucking to do anything about it. Whatever, good post man.
 
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2. Feel depressed and want to kill yourself in the comfort of your home, with peace and quiet, doing things you enjoy
That's just you then, I don't find videogames and cancer food "enjoyable". Low-tier cope.
 
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That's just you then, I don't find videogames and cancer food "enjoyable". Low-tier cope.
I don't really play video games tbh, and I hate cheetoes and doritos (plantain chips and cashews are much better), I was just going along with your stereotypical BS to focus on the point rather than nit pick specifics

I don't see how good tasting food is "not enjoyable", are you seriously going to tell me you don't like fries, you don't like pizza, JFL, what do you do that's "enjoyable" then?
 
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dude that is horrible advice. Unhealthy food will make you miserable long term if you also isolate yourself. (moderate) exercise is also a good idea.
Try eating mostly whole foods for at least a few months. You will feel much better.
also healthy food is by definition healthy lol
 
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dude that is horrible advice. Unhealthy food will make you miserable long term if you also isolate yourself. (moderate) exercise is also a good idea.
Try eating mostly whole foods for at least a few months. You will feel much better.
also healthy food is by definition healthy lol
1. I didn't give advice anywhere, I merely stated my own experiences

2. There's no reason to be "that healthy", you don't have to hunt, you aren't competing athletically, and its not like you want to "live long" (would be very ironic if you wanted this torturous existence to persist), and either way we live longer lives than the humans of way back when by default, I don't want to make it past 50, in fact if my life was going to be like this till my death I'd be good dying right now

3. The extreme irony of your avatar image while posting this, somebody is in denial:


Is this your idea of whole foods JFL, because now I want some chocolate chip cookies

Simple question - "Why should someone who is tired of life, put in high levels of effort and self restraint, just to keep living?"
 
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I agree.

I was a healthy incel for the most part of my youth, resisted peerpressure on smoking with no problem, stayed healthy, walked a lot, got out a lot, didn't drink except occassionaly, my lifestyle was extremely healthy.

Then i started losing hair because of my shitty genetics and discovered i'm an incel destined to eternal inceldom. At that moment i was like, why the fuck should i stay healthy when i'll just rope anyway, started smoking heavily WITH NO PEER PRESSURE, knowing very well it will ruin my health and body but why would i give a fuck about a body that only brings ruins and sadness even when it's healthy anyway ? Give me cigarettes, alcohol, heroine, cocaine, i have nothing to lose (i never tried heroine and cocaine though, heroin because it's very hard to find in its pure form and cocaine because it's a very expensive addiction)

Genetics is everything.

I know chads who smoke and drink heavily and have sex and girlfriends all the time, they don't even have erectile dysfunction while smoking like a plumbler and drinking a whole bottle of whiskey. While i can't even masturbate (have an erection) when i drink more than one liter of alcohol.

GENETICS IS EVERYTHING.
 
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I find no reason to be healthy unless you are socially accepted. It's only a cope if you're an incel to feel good when normies are fat and sick. Ascending won't make you want to be healthy though. You need a whole lifestyle built around it. Foids get unlimited sex yet they are more fat and miserable than ever.
 
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Not just comedic shows. The cinema, going to a concert, going to a diner, to the theater, etc. You never see people going alone to these places. Because is not about your experience with it, it's about social cohesion and sharing a moment with someone.
 
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I don't see how good tasting food is "not enjoyable", are you seriously going to tell me you don't like fries, you don't like pizza, JFL, what do you do that's "enjoyable" then?
That food doesn't just spawn into your fridge
 
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You've all heard the typical normie advice of "just go out and do some things you enjoy" and/or "eat healthy and stay fit", they don't seem to get that these things can't really be enjoyed by someone who is sexually starved and/or doesn't have a partner

I was watching a stand up comedy special recently (on my computer obviously) and I noticed something so obvious that for some reason I never noticed before (probably because I was just focused on the comedian and their jokes). All these shows and specials are littered with couple pairings sitting next to eachother, the only time I ever saw someone who looked like they were alone, they were female

As an incel you can't even really enjoy laughter or going out to "have fun" because all you are going to see is couples having fun enjoying something you have yearned for and never experienced.

It really made me think, imagine planning to go to the next show of your favorite comedian, you buy the ticket, its pricey but you think its worth the entertainment, you pay for your flight (if required) and sit through the hours of waiting to get there, you arrive at the outlet and take your seat, you start to notice one by one the room gets flooded by couples, cuddling, holding hands, giggling, but you ignore it because you are here for the show so it doesn't really bug you, the show starts and as the show goes on a joke about sex always comes up, and at each of these jokes you can see couples around you sending IOI's and giving each other "the look", and you are just there, in the moment, unable to "participate"

You see, these shows are more than just about the actual show contrary to what everyone will tell you, there's a social element to it, really and truly you shouldn't even be there if you don't have a partner because you can't take part in a core aspect of the experience (laughing together).

Also in that scenario you now have to hope that he doesn't switch to "insult comic mode" and point out the fact that you are there on your own. You could go to the show with a friend I guess, but the loneliness of not having a romantic partner will still be foisted in your face over and over and over.

You can't even enjoy a public performance that's sole purpose is to make you happy, because that performance essentially revolves around something you can't get and have never experienced, watching comedy behind a screen is enjoyable, but at the actual event it would be a completely different experience, because you won't be disconnected from the audience and the social aspect of the show, aspects that you can't participate in, and will make you feel less than throughout the entire experience

Now on the topic of health, recently I started to take a multivitamin, about a week in of taking this daily multivitamin, my libido shot up. All I could do was laugh as I realized there is no fucking escape. I take a multivitamin to boost my health so I can be somewhat happy, and it has that effect, but it also boosts my libido, which makes he hornier than ever, which makes me think about sex more and yearn for it more, which makes me more depressed than usual, and when I'm depressed, I just end up eating fast food JFL

I know, I know, "just don't eat fast food"

True, I could do that, but at those moments I literally feel like dying, and good tasting food gives me the dopamine spike I need to keep going, I seriously just feel like dying, like it would be a blessing if died on the spot, I feel completely drained. Eating fast food and putting on a little weight seems like a small tradeoff to get rid of that level of depression

What normies don't seem to get is that being "healthy" means that your body will function at its optimum, and if you are functioning at your optimum so is your sex drive, so imagine if I were exercising and fit on top of supplementing, I'd probably be even more horny and then even more depressed and tired of life

Everything in life as a biological creature comes down to sex, EVERYTHING

There's is practically nothing you can enjoy, if your sex needs aren't being met, because THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED

One thing I will never stop doing is wealthmaxxing, because it is the only path a man has to changing his life, but when it comes to a lot of other stuff, I can completely understand the LDAR mentality, when faced with the ABSOLUTE FUTILITY of trying to ignore/escape ones sex drive, basically everything revolves around sex.
And that is what I hate most about society and humanity, which is why I want to pretty much avoid it completely. It's all just about sex and sexual energy. We breathe sex, we talk sex, but we don't have sex. How that could be called life is beyond me.
 
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That food doesn't just spawn into your fridge
Your response doesn't address anything I've asked, you just seem like a troll at this point, can't you give straight forward answers. You know what I don't even care at this point, your response times are too far apart and too negligent, don't bother.
We breathe sex, we talk sex, but we don't have sex. How that could be called life is beyond me.
 
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How come being healthy is hated so much by the community? I'm suffering hard but it honestly feels better to maintain hygiene and stay in shape.
 
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Are you guys seriously discussing the positive benefits of being a smoking alcoholic wreck? Well how about general well being from having a pain free body? Having a clear head in the morning instead of a tin can full of hazy semblances of thoughts? Breathing unimpeded. Only in mad men can they get away with smoking 40 cigs a day and drinking a liter of rye a day and be all glamorous in their suits n shit
 
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That’s why I do my jogging in the evening. So I don’t have to see couples
 
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True, I could do that, but at those moments I literally feel like dying, and good tasting food gives me the dopamine spike I need to keep going, I seriously just feel like dying, like it would be a blessing if died on the spot, I feel completely drained. Eating fast food and putting on a little weight seems like a small tradeoff to get rid of that level of depression
That's low iq cope, actually fasting lowers my depression by 90% while i'm eating i'm constantly depressed and need to eat every 2-3h which is retarded, 2 days ago i did 30h or 31h fasting and i was just feeling happy for once without doing anything but not eating i could feel like my brain was not inflamed i could breath without allergic rhinitis. You could feel like you are physically slowing down while having incredible focus. Eating to boost dopamine and noradrenaline is a stupid cope since it will spike those hormones and then you will crash HARD.
 
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1. FRAT

2. I've definitely benefited from practicing Jiu Jitsu and being a member of that community.

3. Incels are too caught up with telling other incels what they must and must not do, and what they can and can not be.
 
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do you even lift bro?
 
BlkPillPres

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Are you guys seriously discussing the positive benefits of being a smoking alcoholic wreck? Well how about general well being from having a pain free body? Having a clear head in the morning instead of a tin can full of hazy semblances of thoughts? Breathing unimpeded. Only in mad men can they get away with smoking 40 cigs a day and drinking a liter of rye a day and be all glamorous in their suits n shit
I don't drink or smoke, I was just pointing out the irony that if your body is at optimum health so will your libido, and that will make you feel like even more shit, your libido is at least somewhat stunted when you are unhealthy


That's low iq cope, actually fasting lowers my depression by 90% while i'm eating i'm constantly depressed and need to eat every 2-3h which is retarded
You are the exception to the rule, seriously 2-3 hours, what the hell are you even eating that you get hungry so often

i could feel like my brain was not inflamed i could breath without allergic rhinitis.
Again, more exceptions, you are bringing up allergies now, which is something rare and specific to certain people, I have no allergies

Eating to boost dopamine and noradrenaline is a stupid cope since it will spike those hormones and then you will crash HARD.
Never "crashed", there is not crash, its not like caffiene, there's layers upon layers of satisfaction with eating, first there's the taste of the food, then there's the actual eating part, then there's the feeling of fullness, all of those things make you "feel good", and usually after eating a filling meal I'm happy for the rest of the day, you are talking about some fringe experiences specific to you, I'd bet the majority of people can identify with my experiences, yours don't sound common at all
 
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I agree with this OP.

Being around others just increases my mental stress because of all the reasons you mentioned. The people dont even have to be bad people, its just my situation in comparison that kills it for me. Its just better for my mental health to not be around that.
 
Incellectual

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staying healthy can improve your mood, anxiety, etc.
tbh. I used to think healthmaxxing was stupid but now that I am very unhealthy it just made my suffering worse. you know whats worse than rotting by yourself? rotting by yourself when you are constantly tired and can barely breathe properly.
 
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you know whats worse than rotting by yourself? rotting by yourself when you are constantly tired and can barely breathe properly.
You let your health depreciate too much, nobody here is arguing "just be obese bro"

I'm arguing that there's no point in you gymcelling to attain a "good physique", no point in you having abs or "being fit", not with the effort currently required to attain those things, one day there will be super steroids with minimal to no side effects and being fit will be a norm, weight loss in these times won't even be a problem, us today were going to have to slave away at a gym for hours, and FOR WHAT?

To not get laid, whats the point, its a waste of time and effort
 
Incellectual

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You let your health depreciate too much, nobody here is arguing "just be obese bro"

I'm arguing that there's no point in you gymcelling to attain a "good physique", no point in you having abs or "being fit", not with the effort currently required to attain those things, one day there will be super steroids with minimal to no side effects and being fit will be a norm, weight loss in these times won't even be a problem, us today were going to have to slave away at a gym for hours, and FOR WHAT?

To not get laid, whats the point, its a waste of time and effort
Working out has many health benefits though. You don't have to be in the gym 24/7 to workout or be in somewhat good shape. Even if you ignore the aesthetics behind it its generally a good idea to get daily exercise in even if its only for 30 minutes or something. I found I was much mentally happier when I was gymcelling vs when I'm not.
 
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I found I was much mentally happier when I was gymcelling vs when I'm not.
Saying that exercising makes you happier is just a cope that revolves around your ego, its like saying walking makes you happier than taking a car, its nothing but mental gymnastics that revolves around some false sense of pride rooted in "exerting effort" and one viewing that act as a positive thing indicative of the quality of person that they are

Everything humans do is rooted in trying to escape investing effort

We built various means of transportation because walking is tiring and inefficient

Its a placebo effect, its like like a construction worker out in the blazing sun telling himself if he was the boss sitting comfy in an AC office he wouldn't enjoy it, and that the "hard work" keeps him happy. Its just a cope, if you woke up tomorrow and were just from that point on, fit without even trying, no matter what you ate or did you'd stay in the prime of fitness, are you saying you would "miss exercising" JFL? :feelskek:

Please stop with these copes, exercising makes you feel good, because you feel like you are "doing something", its something you take pride in and it makes you "feel alive", that's what feels good about it, but placebos don't work on people like me, nihilists don't value and really believe in anything

When I exercise I know full well I'm exerting effort I'd rather not have to and I'm only doing so because I have no choice, there is no mental gymanstics I can work on myself to "feel good" about exercising, its just something I have no choice but to do, just as how I view working (wage cucking), I take no pride in my work, I don't think myself better than those who can't/don't "work hard", I work because I have no choice but to work, and when I no longer need to work, I won't miss working

People just like to cling to the remnants of past human trials because it "makes us feel human", we see struggling and achieving as a "human thing" and in order to be a "quality human" one must bear these traits and take pride in them
 
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Saying that exercising makes you happier is just a cope that revolves around your ego, its like saying walking makes you happier than taking a car, its nothing but mental gymnastics that revolves around some false sense of pride rooted in "exerting effort" and one viewing that act as a positive thing indicative of the quality of person that they are

Everything humans do is rooted in trying to escape investing effort

We built various means of transportation because walking is tiring and inefficient

Its a placebo effect, its like like a construction worker out in the blazing sun telling himself if he was the boss sitting comfy in an AC office he wouldn't enjoy it, and that the "hard work" keeps him happy. Its just a cope, if you woke up tomorrow and were just from that point on, fit without even trying, no matter what you ate or did you'd stay in the prime of fitness, are you saying you would "miss exercising" JFL? :feelskek:

Please stop with these copes, exercising makes you feel good, because you feel like you are "doing something", its something you take pride in and it makes you "feel alive", that's what feels good about it, but placebos don't work on people like me, nihilists don't value and really believe in anything

When I exercise I know full well I'm exerting effort I'd rather not have to and I'm only doing so because I have no choice, there is no mental gymanstics I can work on myself to "feel good" about exercising, its just something I have no choice but to do, just as how I view working (wage cucking), I take no pride in my work, I don't think myself better than those who can't/don't "work hard", I work because I have no choice but to work, and when I no longer need to work, I won't miss working

People just like to cling to the remnants of past human trials because it "makes us feel human", we see struggling and achieving as a "human thing" and in order to be a "quality human" one must bear these traits and take pride in them
there are tons of studies that show that physical exercise helps with mental health and mood.
 
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I doubt were going to agree on this topic (so I'll end it here)

Maybe its just genetics, maybe there's just something about you physically that makes fatigue, pain and an increased heart rate enjoyable, maybe there's just something about me physically that does the opposite, but I have experienced no difference in my mental state regardless of effort, because effort means nothing to me


there are tons of studies that show that physical exercise helps with mental health and mood.
Of those studies did they the have sample groups of sexually starved men, or how about something less specific, clinically depressed and suicidal men........... I doubt it

Exercise makes the average person "feel good" because they have an average mindset and average problems, when your problem is that you and your GF got into an argument I can see how "going for a run" to "cool your head" can lower your cortisol (stress hormone) levels and make you feel better, but when your problem is that you are sexually starved and you are a nihilist, the only thing that is going to make you stop feeling bad are things that literally affect your brain chemistry and aren't placebo based, drugs, fatty foods, sleep, etc, or you getting sex

I only want what I want, there are no substitutes, there's nothing I can tell myself to make me "just be happy", I either get what I want in life (the core things I want) or I'll be depressed, nihilists can't cope dude, we either get what we want or we don't, but we can't delude ourselves into a false sense of happiness by "thinking positive" or "keeping active", shit like that only affects the minds of people who can screen out introspective thought and enjoy the bliss of ignorance

I used to work out a lot and even weight lift, I felt no different during exercise, or after exercise than I felt before exercise, all I felt were the objective realities of exercise, pain and fatigue, that's it, I felt no "runners high", or anything like that

One thing I notice is that most people have a "cope switch", even among the black pilled, but if you are a nihilist, you literally can't cope, you don't even have a choice, placebos don't work because you are aware of everything you are thinking and doing
 
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Now I just eat a balance of good food and take away, but in moderation and feel a lot better (it hasn't affected by work out results at all by the way).
I do the same thing. I'm just working out so when I get older my metabolism doesn't slow down and I become a fat fuck. Being fat is just uncomfortable and nasty. It won't get me foids but it will make my life mildly better.
 
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Of those studies did they the have sample groups of sexually starved men, or how about something less specific, clinically depressed and suicidal men..
Most of the studies I've read are directly related to depression and anxiety and how the symptoms get significantly better with exercise. I'm not saying it will literally cure depression but it will certainly make the symptoms more manageable than if you never exercised at all.
 
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Most of the studies I've read are directly related to depression and anxiety and how the symptoms get significantly better with exercise
Why is that though, what were the problems faced by these "depressed" individuals, was that catalogued?, if not how do we know who was "really depressed" and who just thought they were depressed, have you seen the kinds of lives of females that say they are depressed, showered with attention, access to sex, stable income, etc

Anybody can claim they are depressed
 
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Why is that though, what were the problems faced by these "depressed" individuals, was that catalogued?, if not how do we know who was "really depressed" and who just thought they were depressed, have you seen the kinds of lives of females that say they are depressed, showered with attention, access to sex, stable income, etc

Anybody can claim they are depressed
It makes sense if you think about it though. A healthy brain is a part of a healthy body and working out makes you healthier. Even things like gut health and intestinal health effect how your brain works and how well it develops when you are growing up. The more you exercise, the healthier your body is which in turn is going to help your brain.
 
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It makes sense if you think about it though. A healthy brain is a part of a healthy body and working out makes you healthier. Even things like gut health and intestinal health effect how your brain works and how well it develops when you are growing up. The more you exercise, the healthier your body is which in turn is going to help your brain.
You've really fallen for societal indoctrination hardcore

Also you seem to be conflating heatlh with happiness, its not the same thing

If you looked at the brain scans of a man who lived an unhealthy debaucherous life and a man who live a healthy orderly life, the first guy lived an objectively more pleasurable life, he was objectively more happy than the last guy, what you are now focusing on is subjective happiness, which relates less to dopamine release and more to meeting societal standards

Or you know what, maybe I'm conflating happiness with pleasure

We just have different standards of happiness then
 
Incellectual

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You've really fallen for societal indoctrination hardcore
I find most of society around me at least to be the opposite. Everyone is saying that they are content with just sitting at home all day watching movies/TV and drinking + eating.

Or you know what, maybe I'm conflating happiness with pleasure

We just have different standards of happiness then
I think we are talking about 2 different things at this point tbh
 
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I just stay at home and fapmaxx to my lolli
 
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there is no going out and healthy life for our face :feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
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True, this is why I stopped putting so much effort into NTmaxxing. I socialised and acted like a normie for years (went out and everything) but all of it was futile since I never had a partner with me and had to do everything as the third/fifth/seventh wheel and it never improved my relationship chances. I ended up being the butt of all the jokes and was lonelier than ever.

Plus I used to be really picky with what I ate (calorie-counting) etc while I was working out. However once I saw some Chad acquaintances constantly eating nothing but takeaway and still having bodies like Greek Gods it really killed my drive in that respect since most of it is down to your genetics. Now I just eat a balance of good food and take away, but in moderation and feel a lot better (it hasn't affected by work out results at all by the way).
Damn. Are you me?
 
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