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This myth even apolitical normies will fall for needs to be systematically eviscerated once and for all. The man responsible for the economic miracle was Hjalmar Schacht a freemason banker and a old establishment figure who was the president of Reichsbank (aka central bank) under the Weimar Republic during the 1920s and whom Hitler in 1934 appointed as minister of economics, since nazis were economically mostly illiterate romanticist more concerned battling racial identity politics than developing a coherent alternative economic model. Under centrist Schacht the new 'national socialist' economy underwent massive privatization. The economically left-wing faction of the nazi party that unironically hoped for 'real socialism' with German characteristic was knifed in the same year Schacht was put in charge.
Hjalmar Schacht
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What the krauts got with Hjalmar Schacht was a cartel economy dominated by monopolies like siemens, gutehoffnungshütte, krupp and rheinmetall. In the 1930s Germany became one of the most privatized countries in the world, at a time where the world was trying to find it's way out of the depression either through experimenting with socialism or keynesian economics. Nazi Germany instead of breaking up monopolies was strengthening them. Big business conglomerates were preferred to smaller ones because political intervention and lobbying would be easier. The plan was to make politics involved in business through mutual cooperation aka corporatism. Schacht, although being a center-rightist, did support the plan of achieving full employment through public work, yet even this wasn't devised by the nazis either -- the attempt to alleviate unemployment through work brigades constructing the autobahn was a continuation of policies that had been instituted in late Weimar Germany with the support of the last chancellor Kurt von Schleicher, who too got whacked during the the night of the long knives.

Since massive public work programs and stimulating the economy required deficit spending Schacht introduced a scheme that could massively increase government spending without the appearance of it -- this was achieved by setting up a private dummy company called MEtallurgische FOrschungsgesellschaft, in short MEFO, which was a joint-venture effort by the four biggest industrial players -- siemens, gutehoffnungshütte, krupp steel and rheinmetall. The only purpose of this company was issuing so called 'mefo bills'. The plan was that when the government would order a new bach of tanks it wouldn't pay directly with reichmarks, the payment to the armament producer would be deferred with a mefo bill given out by MEFO, which operated as a 'private company', with a guarantee of mefo paying the producer in the period of 6 months, and the government relying on Reichsbank's 'unoficial' promise to buy these contracts right before the pay date.

Due to Schacht's scheme German economy actually recovered, but there were two problems here; since these mefo bills were rated at a 4% annual interest rate and they could be traded between the armament producers, they were used like money in trade deals between different German companies. They were even preferred over real money. the armament producers did not want these contracts to end and so they extended them further and further beyond the initial 6-month pay date. They became a pseudo-currency in themselves. Secondndly, a big portion of these contracts were given to arms producers and not civilian construction of peace economics. It became clear that the mefo scheme was primarily to achieve rearmament, bypassing the Versailles Treaty by avoiding making new public debt in the official books. Consumption actually stagnated and at this point the 'happy well fed german family driving a volkswagen' trope was becoming a myth. Military spending went from constituting 1% of the national budget to 10% in a few years between 1933 and 1936. Schacht desperately tried to warn Hitler that he's going to get the country bankrupt at this rate of military spending.
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Hjalmar Schacht maintained that the MEFO scheme was not a permanent solution, but a short, temporary measure to get the economy going again, when unemployment sufficiently lowered and Germany rearmed he and price commissioner Dr. Carl Friedrich Goerdeler both tried to persuade Hitler that Germany was now a defiant military power again and it was the perfect time to change gears from military to civilian oriented production and develop new trade deals in the world market. For Schacht and Goerdler further military expenditure at the expense of civilian economic growth was insane and made no sense form a rational point of view. With military expenditures quickly growing far larger than the civilian work-creation programs Schacht realized that Hitler's imperialist ambitions of achieving Lebenraum through violent irredintism surpassed that of securing the economic gains and social stability of the last four years --

The economic miracle that Schacht made happen was to be driven straight into the ground when Hitler decided to replace the brilliant Schacht with the economically iliterate fatass and trigger happy Goering in 1937

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With Schacht gone the ongoing massive military expenditure was creating a debt with which the national civilian economy couldn't cope anymore. The overblown nazi military-industrial complex wasn't devised to built refrigeratos and hydroelectric power plants, it could however plunder and pillage neighboring states. Hitler and Goering expected that upcoming territorial expansion would provide the means of repaying the soaring national debt, by using the wealth and manpower of conquered nations. One problem here; they were invading absolute poverty stricken shitholes. In the last years of the third reich 25% of the abour force was made up of slaves, mostly poles and jews, many of them working at in the Asuchwitz labor camps for IG farben's rubber plants fueling the war effort. Perhaps the most clinically insane moment Hitler had was when he traded Schacht's developed economic theories for the idea that you could run a sustainable economy on slave labor and looting at the heart of Europe in the 20th century.

tl;dr: Hitler didn't fix the economy, Hjalmar Schacht did. Hitler replaced him with Göring and ran the economy into the ground again.
 
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I'm sorry you have autism
 
Not gonna read sorry
 
Yet they still believe that the nazis could industrially exterminate millions of Jews while under siege from all sides.
 
read everything but only because Hjalmar sounded kind of like Hjaalmarch from skyrim
 
Yet they still believe that the nazis could industrially exterminate millions of Jews while under siege from all sides.
no one claims six million literally perished in gas chambers, half of the numbers are from liquidations of jewish civilians on the eastern front by Einsatzgruppen and local militias prepped up with the help occupying Hitler's forces. Executions in camps intensified after the krauts got btfo'ed at Stalingrad. Holocaust denial at this point is an angsty contrarian cope mostly subhumans retort to.
 
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no one claims six million literally perished in gas chambers, half of the numbers are from liquidations of jewish civilians on the eastern front by Einsatzgruppen and local militias prepped up with the help occupying Hitler's forces. Executions in camps intensified after the krauts got btfo'ed at Stalingrad. Holocaust denial at this point is an angsty contrarian cope mostly subhumans retort to.
Most jews killed were religious isolated jews from ukraine/belarus/russia. Many secular ones(especially the ones from germany), who were destroying europe and deserved death, got away.
 
The third Reich was based nevertheless.
They would literally probably kill you and most of the users on this forum, and work the rest of us like slaves. You people are children and if you lived in nazi germany you'd be crying and hiding under the bed
 
They would literally probably kill you and most of the users on this forum, and work the rest of us like slaves. You people are children and if you lived in nazi germany you'd be crying and hiding under the bed
Nah
 
whom Hitler in 1934 appointed as minister of economics
Like I said, Schacht was Weimar establishment figure, already became the president of the Reichsbank in 1923, the nazis only promoted him to an even higher position as they had no real experts of their own, and the moment Hitler replaced him with one of his own -- Herman Goering -- the economy tanked again.

His plans basically relied on Germany winning the war and paying all debts & expenses with other nations treasuries that they conquered
This was probably the single most low iq thing Lebensraum ideologists believed would work, worse even than Himmlers paganism.

Mussolini actually fixed Italy with a third positionist economy. The first pro-workers Constitution was written under fascism
Italian fascists were zig-zagging through the 1920s, starting with laissez-faire program of privatization, curbing it's unpopularity among the working class with corporativist through (GLC) and ending up with economic dirigisme in the 1930s, as well as the second most nationalized economy after the soviet union. They were coping, but they were at least trying to be rational, which the nazism lacked.
 
Italian fascists were zig-zagging through the 1920s, starting with laissez-faire program of privatization, curbing it's unpopularity among the working class with corporativist through (GLC) and ending up with economic dirigisme in the 1930s, as well as the second most nationalized economy after the soviet union. They were coping, but they we
No they were creating a corporative third positionist system that forced employers and workers to collaborate
This system allows you to change from economic liberalism to economic conservatism following what's best for the collective.
From 1943 to 1945 fascists basically created a socio-democratic economic system
 
Interesting. I already knew that their economy couldn't be sustained before war so they needed expansion.
 
Fact-checking Harry Potter books is my favorite pastime.

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Any incel that worships Hitler and Co is absolutely retarded and delusional or just teenage edgelord who has played too many grand strategy games.
 
no one claims six million literally perished in gas chambers, half of the numbers are from liquidations of jewish civilians on the eastern front by Einsatzgruppen and local militias prepped up with the help occupying Hitler's forces. Executions in camps intensified after the krauts got btfo'ed at Stalingrad. Holocaust denial at this point is an angsty contrarian cope mostly subhumans retort to.
The Jews were drafted as slave labor to manifacture weapons and ammunition for the German war effort. Why would the nazis kill off their own workforce while in a devastating two front war? If you believe that might as well also believe in the soap and lampshades jfl.
 
The Jews were drafted as slave labor to manifacture weapons and ammunition for the German war effort. Why would the nazis kill off their own workforce while in a devastating two front war? If you believe that might as well also believe in the soap and lampshades jfl.
The same reason they replaced the briliant Schacht with someone like Goering and tanked the economy, the leadership was pathological, driven by ideology and not pragmatism, not rational.
 
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no one claims six million literally perished in gas chambers, half of the numbers are from liquidations of jewish civilians on the eastern front by Einsatzgruppen and local militias prepped up with the help occupying Hitler's forces. Executions in camps intensified after the krauts got btfo'ed at Stalingrad. Holocaust denial at this point is an angsty contrarian cope mostly subhumans retort to.
Kek not what holocaust history says. You spot liars when they change their story when you confront them on it
 
Kek not what holocaust history says. You spot liars when they change their story when you confront them on it

which source claims that six million were literally gassed in camps? That sounds like american education.
 
which source claims that six million were literally gassed in camps? That sounds like american education.
Because the concentration camps (should) roughly add up roughly to the number of 6 million, maybe 5 or 5,5 and the others were murdered during the war in Poland, Russia and so on. But Auschwitz alone was estimated to have killed 3,5 million jews at least before the 80s. After that they changed the numbers to 1,1 to 1,5 million (in 1983 if I remember correctly). Those were roughly 2 million dead jews that appeared again just like that? Without adjusting the whole story?

A real crime needs a place, time and way of killing. Holocaust scholars can't give any of them. That is why they throw around numbers as they want since confronting and debunking this bs is banned in many countries.

None of those phony holocaust believers can can prove that a single gas chamber existed, where they existed and how many died there and especially not how.
 
Informative stuff. Didn’t read the whole thing but I did read a fair amount. Actually didnt know. Neato
 
It's all so v3ry exciting!

Too bad the world lost ww2
 
I still think hitler providing jobs in weapon manufacturing had an impact on the economy, tbh it could have been the impact of both
 
I still think hitler providing jobs in weapon manufacturing had an impact on the economy, tbh it could have been the impact of both
It had an impact, a positive impact for a period of barely 4 years -- Schacht tried to steer the economy towards civilian production & consumption, and fell out of favor with Hitler because of it. Hitler never was conted with stability, which was effectively achieved by 1937, he banked everything on war, and the economy proves it.

Because the concentration camps (should) roughly add up roughly to the number of 6 million, maybe 5 or 5,5 and the others were murdered during the war in Poland, Russia and so on. But Auschwitz alone was estimated to have killed 3,5 million jews at least before the 80s. After that they changed the numbers to 1,1 to 1,5 million (in 1983 if I remember correctly). Those were roughly 2 million dead jews that appeared again just like that? Without adjusting the whole story?

A real crime needs a place, time and way of killing. Holocaust scholars can't give any of them. That is why they throw around numbers as they want since confronting and debunking this bs is banned in many countries.

lmao, using academic discussion about the Holocaust's scope and purpose to cast doubt on the Holocaust itself is like a young-earth creationist using academic disagreements about details of evolution to try to cast doubt on evolution as a whole. A straw man, and a bad one at that.

Watch Himmler's Posen speech that talks about jews being 'ausrotten' if you're German you know what this means -- even David Irving agreed it was authentic and referred to physical extermination.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4
 
lmao, using academic discussion about the Holocaust's scope and purpose to cast doubt on the Holocaust itself is like a young-earth creationist using academic disagreements about details of evolution to try to cast doubt on evolution as a whole. A straw man, and a bad one at that.

Watch Himmler's Posen speech that talks about jews being 'ausrotten' if you're German you know what this means -- even David Irving agreed it referred to physical extermination.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4

Cope, you cannot bring up a single evidence for the existance of gas chambers. Hitler also used the word ausgerottet in a speed in 1934 when he talked about banning all other parties besides the NSDAP. They used that kind of rough language. You got any proof for gas chambers now?
 
This myth even apolitical normies will fall for needs to be systematically eviscerated once and for all. The man responsible for the economic miracle was Hjalmar Schacht a freemason banker and a old establishment figure who was the president of Reichsbank (aka central bank) under the Weimar Republic during the 1920s and whom Hitler in 1934 appointed as minister of economics, since nazis were economically mostly illiterate romanticist more concerned battling racial identity politics than developing a coherent alternative economic model. Under centrist Schacht the new 'national socialist' economy underwent massive privatization. The economically left-wing faction of the nazi party that unironically hoped for 'real socialism' with German characteristic was knifed in the same year Schacht was put in charge.
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What the krauts got with Hjalmar Schacht was a cartel economy dominated by monopolies like siemens, gutehoffnungshütte, krupp and rheinmetall. In the 1930s Germany became one of the most privatized countries in the world, at a time where the world was trying to find it's way out of the depression either through experimenting with socialism or keynesian economics. Nazi Germany instead of breaking up monopolies was strengthening them. Big business conglomerates were preferred to smaller ones because political intervention and lobbying would be easier. The plan was to make politics involved in business through mutual cooperation aka corporatism. Schacht, although being a center-rightist, did support the plan of achieving full employment through public work, yet even this wasn't devised by the nazis either -- the attempt to alleviate unemployment through work brigades constructing the autobahn was a continuation of policies that had been instituted in late Weimar Germany with the support of the last chancellor Kurt von Schleicher, who too got whacked during the the night of the long knives.

Since massive public work programs and stimulating the economy required deficit spending Schacht introduced a scheme that could massively increase government spending without the appearance of it -- this was achieved by setting up a private dummy company called MEtallurgische FOrschungsgesellschaft, in short MEFO, which was a joint-venture effort by the four biggest industrial players -- siemens, gutehoffnungshütte, krupp steel and rheinmetall. The only purpose of this company was issuing so called 'mefo bills'. The plan was that when the government would order a new bach of tanks it wouldn't pay directly with reichmarks, the payment to the armament producer would be deferred with a mefo bill given out by MEFO, which operated as a 'private company', with a guarantee of mefo paying the producer in the period of 6 months, and the government relying on Reichsbank's 'unoficial' promise to buy these contracts right before the pay date.

Due to Schacht's scheme German economy actually recovered, but there were two problems here; since these mefo bills were rated at a 4% annual interest rate and they could be traded between the armament producers, they were used like money in trade deals between different German companies. They were even preferred over real money. the armament producers did not want these contracts to end and so they extended them further and further beyond the initial 6-month pay date. They became a pseudo-currency in themselves. Secondndly, a big portion of these contracts were given to arms producers and not civilian construction of peace economics. It became clear that the mefo scheme was primarily to achieve rearmament, bypassing the Versailles Treaty by avoiding making new public debt in the official books. Consumption actually stagnated and at this point the 'happy well fed german family driving a volkswagen' trope was becoming a myth. Military spending went from constituting 1% of the national budget to 10% in a few years between 1933 and 1936. Schacht desperately tried to warn Hitler that he's going to get the country bankrupt at this rate of military spending.
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Hjalmar Schacht maintained that the MEFO scheme was not a permanent solution, but a short, temporary measure to get the economy going again, when unemployment sufficiently lowered and Germany rearmed he and price commissioner Dr. Carl Friedrich Goerdeler both tried to persuade Hitler that Germany was now a defiant military power again and it was the perfect time to change gears from military to civilian oriented production and develop new trade deals in the world market. For Schacht and Goerdler further military expenditure at the expense of civilian economic growth was insane and made no sense form a rational point of view. With military expenditures quickly growing far larger than the civilian work-creation programs Schacht realized that Hitler's imperialist ambitions of achieving Lebenraum through violent irredintism surpassed that of securing the economic gains and social stability of the last four years --

The economic miracle that Schacht made happen was to be driven straight into the ground when Hitler decided to replace the brilliant Schacht with the economically iliterate fatass and trigger happy Goering in 1937

--
With Schacht gone the ongoing massive military expenditure was creating a debt with which the national civilian economy couldn't cope anymore. The overblown nazi military-industrial complex wasn't devised to built refrigeratos and hydroelectric power plants, it could however plunder and pillage neighboring states. Hitler and Goering expected that upcoming territorial expansion would provide the means of repaying the soaring national debt, by using the wealth and manpower of conquered nations. One problem here; they were invading absolute poverty stricken shitholes. In the last years of the third reich 25% of the abour force was made up of slaves, mostly poles and jews, many of them working at in the Asuchwitz labor camps for IG farben's rubber plants fueling the war effort. Perhaps the most clinically insane moment Hitler had was when he traded Schacht's developed economic theories for the idea that you could run a sustainable economy on slave labor and looting at the heart of Europe in the 20th century.

tl;dr: Hitler didn't fix the economy, Hjalmar Schacht did. Hitler replaced him with Göring and ran the economy into the ground again.
Moral of the story: Good guys have always lost and will always lose. Someone is always looking to get some profit out of the good you do.
 
They would literally probably kill you and most of the users on this forum, and work the rest of us like slaves. You people are children and if you lived in nazi germany you'd be crying and hiding under the bed
True
Nazicels are low iq
 
Cope, you cannot bring up a single evidence for the existance of gas chambers. Hitler also used the word ausgerottet in a speed in 1934 when he talked about banning all other parties besides the NSDAP
Within three months of the passage of the Enabling Act, all parties except the Nazi Party were 'ausgerottet' either banned or dissolved by force followed on 14 July by a law that made the Nazi Party the only legally permitted party in the country.

now, talking about human beings being 'ausgerottet', I wonder how you make them dissolve themselves?
 
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Within three months of the passage of the Enabling Act, all parties except the Nazi Party were 'ausgerottet' either banned or dissolved by force followed on 14 July by a law that made the Nazi Party the only legally permitted party in the country.

now, talking about human beings being 'ausgerottet', I wonder how you make them dissolve themselves?
I don't know. Maybe you can tell me.
 

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