Does one have still hope for his face to change a bit for the better, or to grow a little taller till a certain age? when is it the time to truly bury all hope and try to move on?
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Over 18 you can forget about making decent height gains. If you are ugly as a kid chances are you will be ugly as an adult.
men grow until 21, but it slows signifcantly after 16. if you are still a virgin by then, youll most likely die one
After 21 it's all down hill.
25+ its over.
30+ its beyond over.
35+ why are u even alive?
30+ its beyond over.
35+ why are u even alive?
it depends of several factor
more than a specif point ''here you have hope///after here not''
i would say is a average beetwen your life and context
example if you still virgin at 18 in a slulty culture,you are fucked
so my point of reference are
-the social average (at what age the majoritie have girlfriends,sex,friends etc)
-how far im from this average
-what i wold need to recover to this average (time,hard work ,help of other ,luck etc)
more than a specif point ''here you have hope///after here not''
i would say is a average beetwen your life and context
example if you still virgin at 18 in a slulty culture,you are fucked
so my point of reference are
-the social average (at what age the majoritie have girlfriends,sex,friends etc)
-how far im from this average
-what i wold need to recover to this average (time,hard work ,help of other ,luck etc)
you're here asking this so its already ovER
30+ virgin it's over. Only hope for not being alone is a very risky loveless arrangement.
Has anyone who's been on this forum ever ascended?
Has anyone who's been on this forum ever ascended?
If you have looksmaxed and aren't getting IOIs, it's over.
Yeah that is pretty much over territory.
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When you turn 25 and still haven't had a girlfriend, sex or even a kiss.
If you make it through high school without getting your dick wet, IT'S OVER.
Good question, I wonder if anyone made it.
when you find this site 
OH SHITTTTwhen you find this site
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cope
A KHHV at 18 will normally start to experience some mental damage, especially in a liberal promiscuous society.
At 25, it's BEYOND over.
At 25, it's BEYOND over.
Lmao at giving up in your teens. what's next? 12 year old incels? "boohoo i'm in 7th grade and still haven't gotten my first kiss
((("
tbh yeah. If girls aren't interested in you then, they're not going to be later on.Lmao at giving up in your teens. what's next? 12 year old incels? "boohoo i'm in 7th grade and still haven't gotten my first kiss
Bullshit
And guess what, very few people are chad tier and especially not incels lol. Normies also got ignored in middle school and highschool.
COOOOOPEEEEEE
Normies may not slay multiple girls like Chad, but they are not ignored. Normies are usually in monogamous relationships.
If landwhales reject you
I disagree. I was a cute little kid who always got compliments from foids but turned into an abnormal creature shortly after puberty.
The opposite can always happen as well.
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