[Serious] How can you be motivated to do anything as a man, and a fucking incel to boot, in the west in 2018?

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Seriously, it baffles me how some people here still manage to muster motivation to work and study hard, have projects, etc.

Society hates people like us so fucking much. The system is entirely designed to fuck us if we do any minimal transgression. Shit like having cartoon porn or a foid from your work saying you touched her are already enough to ruin a lifetime of hard work and effort.

Seriously, how can you not feel a crushing mix of hatred, depression and utter lack of motivation at this point?
 
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its how they cope or they're forced to work by circumstance
 
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Druqs. Drugs are the best way to cope
 
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we all feel a crushing lack of motivation, but we will ourselves through it because we think that today may be the day we escape
 
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we all feel a crushing lack of motivation, but we will ourselves through it because we think that today may be the day we escape
How are able to delude yourself like that? I simply can't.

I think if things start getting better for men, not even talking about incels, within like 30 years, that's already an extremely optimistic and improbable scenario.
 
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I enjoy what I do. it's one of the only reasons I'm still alive.
 
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All an incel can do is LDAR
Shit like having cartoon porn or a foid from your work saying you touched her are already enough to ruin a lifetime of hard work and effort.
Kek did this happen to you
 
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I enjoy what I do. it's one of the only reasons I'm still alive.
And what do you do?

Yeah im a NEET. Drugs help me enjoy being NEET
Oh I got it. I enjoy being a NEET because I know working is 100 times worse, but even my copes are starting to be less pleasurable, which is worrisome.
 
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How are able to delude yourself like that? I simply can't.

I think if things start getting better for men, not even talking about incels, within like 30 years, that's already an extremely optimistic and improbable scenario.
I'm seeing results professionally, I was unemployed at the beginning of the year, got a temp position in april, got promoted to a full time position, then got an offer to my dream job last month.
 
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I'm a programmer. Putting on some nice music, and coding for hours in my own world is what I live for.
My most successful friend is also a programmer. Is it feasible as a guy who REALLY sucks at math?

It looks like a top tier job for an incel but I'm afraid I'm too retarded at math to make it.
 
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The thought that I will look good with my desired hairstyle and after my nose surgery is the only thing that motivates me at this point.
 
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If you NEET long enough all your copes will become boring. And when your copes don't work, what will you do all day? Suffer. So the choice is between suffering (wagecuck), suffering more (NEET) or committing suicide. Suicide is the best option but it's not easy to make such a decision. So that leaves following the cucked path.

Self improvement for incels: 1*1.0001 = 1.0001, which is better than 1.
NEETing for incels: 1*0.00099 = 0.00099

I'm drunk not retarded. Anyway so as long as we're alive and our copes don't work anymore we can only self improve or commit suicide. That's why I'm not LDARing. Because my mommy and daddy won't let me without bothering me, I mean because it's boring and I might as well suffer while doing something productive instead of suffering while LDARing.
 
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daily, also sucks being a wageslave.
 
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I'm seeing results professionally, I was unemployed at the beginning of the year, got a temp position in april, got promoted to a full time position, then got an offer to my dream job last month.
But how do you get the motivation to work on the first place?

If you NEET long enough all your copes will become boring. And when your copes don't work, what will you do all day? Suffer. So the choice is between suffering (wagecuck), suffering more (NEET) or committing suicide. Suicide is the best option but it's not easy to make such a decision. So that leaves following the cucked path.

Self improvement for incels: 1*1.0001 = 1.0001, which is better than 1.
NEETing for incels: 1*0.00099 = 0.00099

I'm drunk not retarded. Anyway so as long as we're alive and our copes don't work anymore we can only self improve or commit suicide. That's why I'm not LDARing. Because my mommy and daddy won't let me without bothering me, I mean because it's boring and I might as well suffer while doing something productive instead of suffering while LDARing.
What about semi-NEETing in college? That's my plan.

Then I can try to get a job, but even if I can't, I'll rent rooms or something. Or rope.
 
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But how do you get the motivation to work on the first place?


What about semi-NEETing in college? That's my plan.

Then I can try to get a job, but even if I can't, I'll rent rooms or something. Or rope.
Seems like a decent plan as long as you study something incel friendly like CS. Otherwise you'll have to be social as part of your studies to pass. Then as you approach the second half of your studies you'll need to network to be able to get a job after. But if you study CS and don't have a high IQ you'll need to spend a lot of time coding to become a decent developer.

But studying just as an excuse for not wageslaving works for a while at least. Source: A semi-moron (me)
 
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But how do you get the motivation to work on the first place?


What about semi-NEETing in college? That's my plan.

Then I can try to get a job, but even if I can't, I'll rent rooms or something. Or rope.
I work because my ultimate cope is to buy a victorian home on a few acres of land, and host holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas for my family
 
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Seriously, it baffles me how some people here still manage to muster motivation to work and study hard, have projects, etc.
You got it all backwards, it is because I know I won't ever have my own family that I'm able to study hard and have projects... If I don't want to end up killing myself I'd better make my copes worth living for, I know what the NEET life feels like, that's not living.
 
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You got it all backwards, it is because I know I won't ever have my own family that I'm able to study hard and have projects... If I don't want to end up killing myself I'd better make my copes worth living for, I know what the NEET life feels like, that's not living.
I guess different people react differently to things after all.

Don't you have a property? If everything goes wrong my plan is just renting rooms. I have plenty to rent when my family dies.
 
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I guess different people react differently to things after all.

Don't you have a property? If everything goes wrong my plan is just renting rooms. I have plenty to rent when my family dies.
I guess I'm in the same boat, my parents bought real estate their whole life, problem is they are on the other side of the planet.

For now the plan in to bodymaxx and skillmax within my niche in engineering. After that I'm considering importing a gf/wife from some shithole country. I mean, if the massive amounts of immigrants coming to Europe are like 80% young males, it follows there must be an enormous surplus of young females where they come from.
 
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I feel the same, I cant even gather the motivation to get out of bed in the morning. What's the point? And what for?

So you can go wageslave at some bogus job you hate?All so you can remain the same loser, perma virgin you were before?

I guess you can buy yourself whatever copes but even that doesnt do it for me anymore, they are not fulfilling. Death seems like a better option more than anything else at this point.
 
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I feel the same, I cant even gather the motivation to get out of bed in the morning. What's the point? And what for?

So you can go wageslave at some bogus job you hate?All so you can remain the same loser, perma virgin you were before?

I guess you can buy yourself whatever copes but even that doesnt do it for me anymore, they are not fulfilling. Death seems like a better option more than anything else at this point.
Whats stopping you then?
 
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Kek did this happen to you
No, but has happened in my country already.

Just looking at the pics of him being arrested is already revolting.
 
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Seriously, it baffles me how some people here still manage to muster motivation to work and study hard, have projects, etc.

Society hates people like us so fucking much. The system is entirely designed to fuck us if we do any minimal transgression. Shit like having cartoon porn or a foid from your work saying you touched her are already enough to ruin a lifetime of hard work and effort.

Seriously, how can you not feel a crushing mix of hatred, depression and utter lack of motivation at this point?
You can all fucking report me for bluepilled but this post is incelcope like the entire forum, males are in average smarter than females you can manipulate them, you can figure it out how to get in their guts, if biological males can be attracted to other males, feets and even chinese cartoons and fucking females can be attracted to dogs they can also be attracted to ugly males.

You can exploit human brain and brainwash them in to doing whatever shit, that's why religion exist you can make them even suicide or mutilate their genitals, intelligence is the biggest weak point of human like the users to computers.
 
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HOPE—although it is a double edged sword.
 
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Seriously, it baffles me how some people here still manage to muster motivation to work and study hard, have projects, etc.

Society hates people like us so fucking much. The system is entirely designed to fuck us if we do any minimal transgression. Shit like having cartoon porn or a foid from your work saying you touched her are already enough to ruin a lifetime of hard work and effort.

Seriously, how can you not feel a crushing mix of hatred, depression and utter lack of motivation at this point?
To brainwash any person be it male or female you have to make them release dopamine when you are near and they will fall in obsesion with you.

How people get fetishes? simple they release pleasure chemicals doing that action, that's why BDSM exist and fucking homos and dykes even if they aren't suposed to exist they are aberrations of nature.

They form an habit and you have to make sure they are making that habit with you.
 
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i want to LDAR more and more every passing month
 
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So the only solution is going ER?
 
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My parents will disown me if I go NEET.
 
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My condolences. My father is also like that but my mother and aunt don't care at all.
Complete opposite for me. Mother stresses me out. Dad really doesn’t give a fuck about my education at all.
 
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I thought this apathy and laziness was unique to me. My whole life I've been told hard work is rewarded, but have experienced the exact opposite.

It seems I've been fighting against my destiny my whole life, and it's never helped.
 
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food is my real cope so if i dont work i have no roof or food
without food i get extremely sad and sleep all day
food makes me get up and eat and work and play games and come on here
it also makes me obese but i cant help that
 
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Seriously, it baffles me how some people here still manage to muster motivation to work and study hard, have projects, etc.

Society hates people like us so fucking much. The system is entirely designed to fuck us if we do any minimal transgression. Shit like having cartoon porn or a foid from your work saying you touched her are already enough to ruin a lifetime of hard work and effort.

Seriously, how can you not feel a crushing mix of hatred, depression and utter lack of motivation at this point?
I feel exactly the same i probably failed my past 2 exams
 
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Seriously, it baffles me how some people here still manage to muster motivation to work and study hard, have projects, etc.
Speaking from experience, I did and still am, currently a project manager in construction, struggled a lot (played life on nightmare mode with LVL 1 weapons and health), depression, procrastination, anxiety, lack of patience and motivation are the biggest killers. If you can suppress them and your emotions, you'll have razor sharp focus and you will succeed.

Basically, have no emotions, be low inhibition, distance yourself from your humanity, feel nothing, no shame about what others think of you, no regrets, no sadness, no empathy, be ruthless, no care for others suffering, no envy, be a robot. You'll come to know how patient you are by sitting and studying for at least an hour without getting up to take a break or distract yourself, you need to keep checks and balances in place. Also to maintain motivation, you need to reward (purchasable copes) yourself each time you complete a step or goal in your overall objective, each time, the consecutive reward gets more expensive. You have to train your emotions, admittedly difficult.

The incel problem is a difficult one for me, I'm still working on it. But if there is anything I learned from problem solving, its that there is either a definite solution to the problem or there isn't. The first step is unconditionally determine if there is a possibility of ascension.
 
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My most successful friend is also a programmer. Is it feasible as a guy who REALLY sucks at math?

It looks like a top tier job for an incel but I'm afraid I'm too retarded at math to make it.
Take it from a programmer. You'll have to touch math approximately 0% of the time unless you work with games and shit.
 
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I need money, and I like my job. I feel lonely, so at least socializing at work helps me. And upside is my 'sweet revenge' on bullies and teen chads. Oh, you so funny and clever? Then show me your homework. Oh, you don't have it. I quess then I have to give you an F.
 
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Take it from a programmer. You'll have to touch math approximately 0% of the time unless you work with games and shit.
In practice, isn't it? But there are math disciplines during the course, right?
 
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* Nootropics (Smart drugs). They are not illegal.
* Pramiracetam with Acetocholine is a good start/base, every day or every few hours.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Nootropic (Seriously, start reading... you'll find a way to optimize yourself past these god damn normie pieces of shit)

* Also, if you have a violent or negative family/parents or friends, cut them out of your life. Fuck 'em. Recommend resisting the urge to kill any one, because that's what the system wants. It wants you in jail or dead.

* Gym, good outlet for rage - turn your sadness into hatred. Re-play rejections in your head with every press you do.

* Realize that life is war. No one gives a fuck about you, not foids, not your parents, not other chodes, and if he is real even god has abandoned you. Your life is entirely pointless, you can do whatever the fuck you want... because in the end you just die.

* The system is your enemy. Understand the "rules" of the system, but more importantly understand the details of the system, the lines of causality, exactly how the system works. Exploit it, under-mine it, destroy it.
 
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In practice, isn't it? But there are math disciplines during the course, right?
Hmm yeah. Forgot about that part.

But it's less doing the math and more how the pc will do it for you
 

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