Theory How legit is just have wide shoulders theory?

[Total Imbecile]

Should I change my workout program to P-shoulders-P-shoulders-L-shoulders-X

 

[Deleted member 32037]

Literally doesn't matter but go ahead

 

[Mainländer]

I honestly have no idea, but seems like cope. Face and even height are greater than frame (although height without an at least doable frame doesn't mean much)

 

[BrazilianLambda]

I honestly have no idea, but seems like cope. Face and even height are greater than frame (although height without an at least doable frame doesn't mean much)

"fRaMe is nOt iMporTaNt". Get outta here.

 

[Deleted member 31093]

I have 20 in bideltoid but also a wide waist and birthing hips. It honestly looks so fucking weird at 5’5

 

[XANDIARIES]

it's important but it becomes a halo once you're atleast 5'10 or 5'11. Even better if you have long limbs, short torso, and narrow waist

 

[Loner94]

Frame is definitely an underrated feature.

 

[Mainländer]

"fRaMe is nOt iMporTaNt"

I didn't say that. It's just not as important as face. I believe height is also more important. But face definitely is.

 

[Deleted member 32183]

shoulder width/shoulder to waist ratio reflects bone structure
even though physique isn't that important, shoulders have significant influence on shape
a skinny fat tallfag still mogs a gymaxxed manlet with 7%bf and perfect v-taper

basically compared to the rest of your physique, shoulders are at the top of importance imo

 

[Hell]

Frame can be frauded with clothing it takes a back seat way behind face and height

 

[Quarantined]

may help if your a manlet with a 7/10+ psl

frame + face may compensate for height

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

I follow the "point of no return" strategy,
by the time the chick sees me shirtless it's probably too late to back down, so they just go with it.
They often look disappointed.

I feel like the guy in the pic probably has a decent face though, but I do admire the logic.

The thing is OP: a lot of shoulder width isn't actually thickness of your delt muscles, as that does not change the placement of your shoulder joints (the acromion) or where the humerus hangs below.

What dictates that is the length of the clavicle bone, as that controls how far your scapulae are suspended from the middle of your back.

That probably correlates with the width of the clavicles too.

So it is mostly genetics.

I'm sure muscular delts help a bit but not as much as we would hope. Might as well hit them though.

If it were only as single as lengthening the clavicles this might be easy to deal with (probably easier to recover from lengthen surgery compared to legs, since you don't walk on them... people recover from clavicle breaks in hockey and shit), but lengthening just the clavices without getting wider scapulae might cause some issues I can't foresee.