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For the most part, foids have bullied, ignored and excluded me for my entire life, but so have most men. Men ditch me at the 1/1000 chance of getting a foid. Most normie men sell us out and simp any chance they get. But for some reason I don’t have the same visceral hatred towards men that I have towards foids. It isn’t logical but just hearing foids gossip and giggle makes my blood boil more than anything and I honestly don’t know why. Shouldn’t I feel the same way towards simps? I don’t think my hatred of women is logical, I think it’s instinctual and I don’t understand it. Does anyone else feel this way?
 
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You don't hate women, they hate you.
 
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Ehh, to be honest I hate men more than women. Most of my bad experiences with other people were caused by men. Bullying, ostracizing, rumor-spreading etc...
 
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You don't hate them because you don't want to fuck them (men). You still want something from a foid, so the hate just gets channeled.
 
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You don't hate them because you don't want to fuck them (men). You still want something from a foid, so the hate just gets channeled.
Makes sense. I just don’t naturally care about male judgement as much so female judgement hits me harder
 
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Ehh, to be honest I hate men more than women. Most of my bad experiences with other people were caused by men. Bullying, ostracizing, rumor-spreading etc...
tbh. in social contexts women are just a commodity. that’s why you hear rappers and shit talking about “I got bitches off the xans”. being rejected by them hurts but they don’t play any role in the non-sexual aspect of your social life. the people who you actually interact with/the people who actively harass you and try to fuck up your life are generally all men. I can name far more men that I hate on a personal level than women for that reason alone
 
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tbh. in social contexts women are just a commodity. that’s why you hear rappers and shit talking about “I got bitches off the xans”. being rejected by them hurts but they don’t play any role in the non-sexual aspect of your social life. the people who you actually interact with/the people who actively harass you and try to fuck up your life are generally all men. I can name far more men that I hate on a personal level than women for that reason alone
Exactly, you understand perfectly.
 
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Ehh, to be honest I hate men more than women. Most of my bad experiences with other people were caused by men. Bullying, ostracizing, rumor-spreading etc...
what if I told you that most of these things were done to you in order to appeal to women?
 
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Women are the tool & men are the farmers. Can't behave a certain way without the root causing it.

All of that aside maybe it's because everything is for their benefit & they're given the benefit of the doubt while crying 1 moment but laughing at another's misery the next.
 
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Women are the tool & men are the farmers. Can't behave a certain way without the root causing it.

All of that aside maybe it's because everything is for their benefit & they're given the benefit of the doubt while crying 1 moment but laughing at another's misery the next.
True, it’s incredibly frustrating to see foids get so many social benefits in society and then complain about how difficult it is for them. Their lack of introspection is mind blowing
 
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I have a theory that some incels are more likely to hate women more strongly than others because they had friends as a child. If you're given the hard cut off at puberty, you might resent girls for causing the divide. I was cut off before puberty, so I internalized it more into self hatred.
 
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I have a theory that some incels are more likely to hate women more strongly than others because they had friends as a child. If you're given the hard cut off at puberty, you might resent girls for causing the divide. I was cut off before puberty, so I internalized it more into self hatred.
I would fall into the category that got cut off around puberty. I didn’t adjust well to middle school
 
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I have a theory that some incels are more likely to hate women more strongly than others because they had friends as a child. If you're given the hard cut off at puberty, you might resent girls for causing the divide. I was cut off before puberty, so I internalized it more into self hatred.
Even before puberty I was bullied and had no friends. :feelsbadman: My hate feels like it could burn a hole through my head at times. I just keep it all in.. nobody wants to know and nobody cares.
 
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Hating foids is easy and natural. If they didnt have reproductive organs, then not even chad would tolerate them
 
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For the most part, foids have bullied, ignored and excluded me for my entire life, but so have most men. Men ditch me at the 1/1000 chance of getting a foid. Most normie men sell us out and simp any chance they get. But for some reason I don’t have the same visceral hatred towards men that I have towards foids. It isn’t logical but just hearing foids gossip and giggle makes my blood boil more than anything and I honestly don’t know why. Shouldn’t I feel the same way towards simps? I don’t think my hatred of women is logical, I think it’s instinctual and I don’t understand it. Does anyone else feel this way?

Its completely logical, pretty much everybody hates rich people that flaunt wealth, you know who you'd hate more, a rich person that flaunts wealth and refused to hire you even embarrassing you during your interview with them. They have something you want and they denied you access to it, so of course you'll hate them more

Both men and women are normies, but men aren't the ones rejecting you and denying you something you want so badly
 
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Its completely logical, pretty much everybody hates rich people that flaunt wealth, you know who you'd hate more, a rich person that flaunts wealth and refused to hire you even embarrassing you during your interview with them. They have something you want and they denied you access to it, so of course you'll hate them more

Both men and women are normies, but men aren't the ones rejecting you and denying you something you want so badly
Wow this was an incredibly good analogy. My question is why don’t more men hate foids? It seems as though the vast majority of men don’t resent foids when even Normies are regularly denied access to foids (especially their looks match). Do they just bottle up their resentment? Or do they not have as much pride as we do? Really interested in your thoughts
 
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Its completely logical, pretty much everybody hates rich people that flaunt wealth, you know who you'd hate more, a rich person that flaunts wealth and refused to hire you even embarrassing you during your interview with them. They have something you want and they denied you access to it, so of course you'll hate them more

Both men and women are normies, but men aren't the ones rejecting you and denying you something you want so badly
 
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Wow this was an incredibly good analogy. My question is why don’t more men hate foids? It seems as though the vast majority of men don’t resent foids when even Normies are regularly denied access to foids (especially their looks match). Do they just bottle up their resentment? Or do they not have as much pride as we do? Really interested in your thoughts

You ever heard of the quote - "socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires"

Well its like that for men - "the black pill never took root amongst the average man because these men see themselves not as (unattractive, losers, low tier, undesired, incels, etc) but as temporarily embarrassed slayers"

You talk to any normie guy, and pretty much all of them speak as if they are going to start slaying and getting endless pussy, its just a "matter of time"

They keep this cope going by lowering standards overtime and they don't even realize they are doing it, because its all subconscious. That's why when they end up dating and marrying a woman below their own looks, they are acting as if they got a prize, they've placed themselves in a convenient lie so they don't "break" (have an existential crisis), its like their brain created a coping mechanism for them
 
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You ever heard of the quote - "socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires"

Well its like that for men - "the black pill never took root amongst the average man because these men see themselves not as (unattractive, losers, low tier, undesired, incels, etc) but as temporarily embarrassed slayers"

You talk to any normie guy, and pretty much all of them speak as if they are going to start slaying and getting endless pussy, its just a "matter of time"

They keep this cope going by lowering standards overtime and they don't even realize they are doing it, because its all subconscious. That's why when they end up dating and marrying a woman below their own looks, they are acting as if they got a prize, they've placed themselves in a convenient lie so they don't "break" (have an existential crisis), its like their brain created a coping mechanism for them
Giga IQ. Do you think that the rise of tinder could change this dynamic? It’s pretty hard to cope with getting zero or very few matches on tinder while seeing a land whale get hundreds. This is true for most men in 2020. Do you think online dating could wake more normies up and ultimately drive them to do something about it? Or is it a lost cause?
 
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Giga IQ. Do you think that the rise of tinder could change this dynamic? It’s pretty hard to cope with getting zero or very few matches on tinder while seeing a land whale get hundreds. This is true for most men in 2020. Do you think online dating could wake more normies up and ultimately drive them to do something about it? Or is it a lost cause?

It won't make a difference, especially with white men

I'm not even joking when I say this, if we could temporarily snap all white men out of existence for 1 year and then they'd all pop back into existence a year after, when they returned women wouldn't have rights and the patriarchy would be back in power again

White men are too pathetic and cucked (in their current state) and ironically they are the ones in power (money, wealth, law enforcement, etc), so all the other races are fucked, its never going to change

It doesn't matter what happens, they could create "super tinder" which teleports Chad directly into a womans home to fuck her and white men will use political, judicial and law enforcement powers to stop any retaliation from the few other white men willing to rebel, and the large amount of ethnic men who wouldn't stand for that shit period

You'll notice a lot of these cucked pathetic fetishes are pretty much white only:
Cuck
BDSM (submissive)
"Role Reversal Play"
Femdom
Etc

All of that is white men's shit, I don't know what the fuck happened to the white race, they were never like this, but the men today are fucked, extremely pathetic, its sickening really. Even the white incels on this site go on and on about love, oneitis, "feeling desired", etc, there aren't really any "real men" amongst the race anymore, and because they are in power, they can just force all the other races to go along with their submission fetish

Its like white men have spent so much time being dominant they are bored of it lol, so submissiveness is the "new sexy" for them
 
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I don't actually hate women. I desire them, although they appear to hate me... Anybody else?
 
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It won't make a difference, especially with white men

I'm not even joking when I say this, if we could temporarily snap all white men out of existence for 1 year and then they'd all pop back into existence a year after, when they returned women wouldn't have rights and the patriarchy would be back in power again

White men are too pathetic and cucked (in their current state) and ironically they are the ones in power (money, wealth, law enforcement, etc), so all the other races are fucked, its never going to change

It doesn't matter what happens, they could create "super tinder" which teleports Chad directly into a womans home to fuck her and white men will use political, judicial and law enforcement powers to stop any retaliation from the few other white men willing to rebel, and the large amount of ethnic men who wouldn't stand for that shit period

You'll notice a lot of these cucked pathetic fetishes are pretty much white only:
Cuck
BDSM (submissive)
"Role Reversal Play"
Femdom
Etc

All of that is white men's shit, I don't know what the fuck happened to the white race, they were never like this, but the men today are fucked, extremely pathetic, its sickening really. Even the white incels on this site go on and on about love, oneitis, "feeling desired", etc, there aren't really any "real men" amongst the race anymore, and because they are in power, they can just force all the other races to go along with their submission fetish

Its like white men have spent so much time being dominant they are bored of it lol, so submissiveness is the "new sexy" for them
The trend I see has more to do with wealth and less to do with race. This of course would make white people more likely to support feminism, however it isn’t the reason. Feminism rises in 1st world countries, whether it’s a western country like the UK or an eastern country like Korea. My guess is that this is because relationships become less about financial stability and more about individual choice and that is the driving factor for foids gaining power over men.
 
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The trend I see has more to do with wealth and less to do with race. This of course would make white people more likely to support feminism, however it isn’t the reason. Feminism rises in 1st world countries, whether it’s a western country like the UK or an eastern country like Korea. My guess is that this is because relationships become less about financial stability and more about individual choice and that is the driving factor for foids gaining power over men.

China is one of the richest countries in the world, they would never allow this shit, its still for the most part patriarchal and the men are in power

The only reason women can be selective, is because their gender ratio is fucking screwed due to institutional misogyny (female babies are aborted more in favor of sons), there like 300 million more men than women in china

For the most part I think "looksmatching" still works in that country, just a bit skewed due to the difference in numbers so women have more leverage

The truth is, it is a "race" thing, but more of a "what culture a race tends to have" thing, and it just so happens that whites tend to have a culture that supports a matriarchy
 
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Ehh, to be honest I hate men more than women. Most of my bad experiences with other people were caused by men. Bullying, ostracizing, rumor-spreading etc...
I hate both. I've detested effemminate behaivior and soyboyery since I was a kid. Women are sneaky evil rats who will larp like angels and pretend to have your back and the next moment betray you for lols because they are that worthless and insecure. Chads are brutal evil rats that suck the souls of everyone on the bottom to boost his own ego, both are backstabbing animals who need to be bludgeoned and burned alive
 
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I have a theory that some incels are more likely to hate women more strongly than others because they had friends as a child. If you're given the hard cut off at puberty, you might resent girls for causing the divide. I was cut off before puberty, so I internalized it more into self hatred.
This.
Even when I was young I noticed "friends" who would suddenly change around foids and started treating me like shit for making dumb jokes around foids pretending it wasn't funny. I know it was them acting different around the foids because a similar joke in a similar context without foids yielded a completely different response.
It's for this reason that I hate simps.
 
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You don't.
If they would give you a chance, you'd transform yourself to super simpcel.
 
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You don't.
If they would give you a chance, you'd transform yourself to super simpcel.
Speak for yourself faggot
 
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You don't hate women, they hate you.

Over the years, I have learned that those that don't seem to hate me are just taking advantage of me in some form (mooched off my homework, use me as a recommendation for another job, or just try to network with me for some type of career gain).

Unlike the OP, I don't hate women, but I have very little to no respect for them

Would I turn into a simp if I ascend? I honestly can't say; guys do stupid things when we fall in love, but at the same time I am way too deep into the blackpill to trust a girlfriend
 
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Whats that?

Woman being in the dominant position in bed e.g. her pinning the guy down, her lifting the guy up, her in the "amazonian" position:

Doesn't just look gay, I'd go as far as saying it is gay, because any guy that would do this shit would do some gay shit too

Like letting her put her tongue in your ass, maybe move on to some strap on shit years later when that gets boring, etc

Submissive fetishes are the root of faggotry, sexual submission is ONLY for women because that's their role in the bedroom as the penetrated, the reversal is always homoerotic in nature
 
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For the most part, foids have bullied, ignored and excluded me for my entire life, but so have most men. Men ditch me at the 1/1000 chance of getting a foid. Most normie men sell us out and simp any chance they get. But for some reason I don’t have the same visceral hatred towards men that I have towards foids. It isn’t logical but just hearing foids gossip and giggle makes my blood boil more than anything and I honestly don’t know why. Shouldn’t I feel the same way towards simps? I don’t think my hatred of women is logical, I think it’s instinctual and I don’t understand it. Does anyone else feel this way?
You just described my exact situation boyo. It happens to me to. I dont get it.
One thing i know though, im touch starved and needed of afection from a foid. Maybe that did it? Or is something else I cannot come up with?
I dont get it neither.
Unlike the OP, I don't hate women
But I do boyo. I hate women without control. More than I can control.
I mean literary I would beat a foid if i had a partner right now, and its been like that for 15 years. I try to not have this anger issues, but there is nothing I can do to control them.
 
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Over the years, I have learned that those that don't seem to hate me are just taking advantage of me in some form (mooched off my homework, use me as a recommendation for another job, or just try to network with me for some type of career gain).

Unlike the OP, I don't hate women, but I have very little to no respect for them

Would I turn into a simp if I ascend? I honestly can't say; guys do stupid things when we fall in love, but at the same time I am way too deep into the blackpill to trust a girlfriend
Most of them will hate you but some won't until you give them a reason to. If you don't let them mooch off your homework, etc or any other reason then they will quickly hate you.
 
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Most of them will hate you but some won't until you give them a reason to. If you don't let them mooch off your homework, etc or any other reason then they will quickly hate you.
Great point, and I do not disagree, but at this stage, whether they hate me is as insignificant as if a fleshlight would hate me.
 
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Great point, and I do not disagree, but at this stage, whether they hate me is as insignificant as if a fleshlight would hate me.
Well yeah. They are worthless. True.
 
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Wow greycel it is because they don't give you pussy duhh.
 
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Submissive fetishes are the root of faggotry
Quite speculative theory.
I for example like the fantasy of cowgirl position - where the girl is on top. There is even a thread here celebrating this:

Or a survey, where it is on second place:

I don't want to inspect your porn gif further but can guess that it may feel emasculating for most men, even, when they may fantasize about it.
But my whole life is an emasculating experience (like the Incel thing itself). It isn't a thing that would attack my identity to the ground. I feel more feminine than most men (at least lack of masculinity) and am passive, so the only negative thing would be, that the women would see me as a doormat in everyday life after such sexual act and/or would no longer be attracted to me. I only like the idea of being passive and get pleasure effortlessly, for which I envy females. I even have one or two times a year the fantasy of being a woman. Or it is only curiosity and wish for variety? (I have/had many more or less wicked things in my head popped up, where I can't decide if it is a desire, a wandering, bored mind, or an attack of the devil) But I doubt I would have these occasional submissive fantasies when I would have a strong masculine genetic, identity and pride - on the other side you hear/can read that it is often the supermasculine men IRL who are drawn to Femdom and Ageplay.
And yes, I have also a thrust instinct, but I feel it rarely (but I am alibidinous anhedonic in general).

That there are similarities with the homosexual passive partner in sodomite acts doesn't make one gay or every penetrating/dominant man in sodomite relationships would be heterosexual in secret.
Even being penetrated by a female with a strapon - which I find heavily repulsive by the way - would still count as a heterosexual act and I want to see surveys or studies, where it is stated that "bisexual men" or gays in the closet are the ones in the majority, who want practice this to believe such assumptions.
 
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Ok lets follow this in order, because this was quite funny, these statements literally follow in this sequence which shows how extreme your cognitive dissonance is. Your level of cognitive bias is astounding.

1. Quite speculative theory.
2. I for example like the fantasy of cowgirl position - where the girl is on top
3. I feel more feminine than most men (at least lack of masculinity) and am passive
4. I only like the idea of being passive and get pleasure effortlessly, for which I envy females
5. I even have one or two times a year the fantasy of being a woman

Ummm theory proven JFL, how the fuck is it speculative with what you just said?

I swear the users on this forum don't listen to themselves fucking speak, you guys literally just type out whatever comes to mind, no thought involved, I doubt you even read what you typed out before you posted it. How do you go;

FROM
"its speculative that having submissive fetishes is the root of faggotry"
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"I like the idea of getting fucked as a woman because its effortless and passive pleasure, I fantasize about being a woman sometimes"

Dude you are literally proving my point, you are exhibit A, you are ironically the WORST person to defend your position that my theory is speculative :feelskek:



BONUS ROUND:
Even being penetrated by a female with a strapon - which I find heavily repulsive by the way - would still count as a heterosexual act

"Getting fucked in the ass is still straight so long as it isn't a biological penis and its a woman doing it, getting SEXUAL SATISFACTION from a "FAKE" PENIS FUCKING YOU IN THE ASS is straight BECAUSE A WOMAN IS INVOLVED"



This is the same bullshit rationalizations guys who fuck traps (passable transgender males) use

"It looks like a woman and has a womans body, so its still straight to FUCK A LITERAL MAN BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A WOMAN"

You are literally just a closet faggot in denial, take the final plunge and stop wasting time already :feelskek:

Any guy who is fantasizing about being a woman is a closet fag to begin with, we didn't even have to go to this bonus part, you are literally thinking about getting fucked by Chads sometimes, I'm sure of that right now, fucking disgusting, kill yourself
 
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For the most part, foids have bullied, ignored and excluded me for my entire life, but so have most men. Men ditch me at the 1/1000 chance of getting a foid. Most normie men sell us out and simp any chance they get. But for some reason I don’t have the same visceral hatred towards men that I have towards foids. It isn’t logical but just hearing foids gossip and giggle makes my blood boil more than anything and I honestly don’t know why. Shouldn’t I feel the same way towards simps? I don’t think my hatred of women is logical, I think it’s instinctual and I don’t understand it. Does anyone else feel this way?
CHOose to have a diffERent attitude
 
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Ok lets follow this in order, because this was quite funny, these statements literally follow in this sequence which shows how extreme your cognitive dissonance is. Your level of cognitive bias is astounding.







Ummm theory proven JFL, how the fuck is it speculative with what you just said?

I swear the users on this forum don't listen to themselves fucking speak, you guys literally just type out whatever comes to mind, no thought involved, I doubt you even read what you typed out before you posted it. How do you go;

FROM
"its speculative that having submissive fetishes is the root of faggotry"
TO
"I like the idea of getting fucked as a woman because its effortless and passive pleasure, I fantasize about being a woman sometimes"

Dude you are literally proving my point, you are exhibit A, you are ironically the WORST person to defend your position that my theory is speculative :feelskek:



BONUS ROUND:


"Getting fucked in the ass is still straight so long as it isn't a biological penis and its a woman doing it, getting SEXUAL SATISFACTION from a "FAKE" PENIS FUCKING YOU IN THE ASS is straight BECAUSE A WOMAN IS INVOLVED"



This is the same bullshit rationalizations guys who fuck traps (passable transgender males) use

"It looks like a woman and has a womans body, so its still straight to FUCK A LITERAL MAN BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A WOMAN"

You are literally just a closet faggot in denial, take the final plunge and stop wasting time already :feelskek:

Any guy who is fantasizing about being a woman is a closet fag to begin with, we didn't even have to go to this bonus part, you are literally thinking about getting fucked by Chads sometimes, I'm sure of that right now, fucking disgusting, kill yourself
The dude is wrong. Of course, it is unmanly and effeminate, but: not homosexual. And when I become gay in your eyes by these very rare genderswap fantasies, I can't do anything against it, but it is not, what defines a gay man. I am not attracted to men and repulsed by the idea of sex of a man with another man.
There is a line from most male-dominant sex act (rape), to most submissive (getting raped by a strap-on). Nothing makes a man gay, when done with a woman, only effeminate. You have almost a quarter of incels on .co who voted cowgirl positions as their favorite. Where do you make your line between "(closet) gay" and "still heterosexual"?

By the way, I have had also fantasies of raping and killing women (in Minecraft). So, get I now this wholesome pansexual label or does it remain the gay one for eternity?
 
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Maybe because you are a soy beta cuck that is not an Incel at all?
 
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something hurts you, you naturally want to hurt it back.

the problem is it isn't even really a conscience thought behind it. they don't actively hate you, you are just a non-issue invisible to them.
 
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Of course, it is unmanly and effeminate, but: not homosexual

Ok so how far are you willing to push this bullshit?

If a woman puts on a strap on that shoots out warm fake jizz when she hits a button (per request of the man), deep throats the guy, shoots the stuff down his throat, fucks him in the ass, shoots it down his ass, etc, and after all of that shit, he can walk out of that room and say he's straight because "well a woman did it"?

If you can't see how that's nothing but semantic bullshit I don't know what to tell you

You do realize there are closeted gay men with wives and children right?

Them "having sex with a woman" doesn't make them any less gay, they are gay and in denial and forcing themselves to have sex with their wives, and they aren't even taking part in effeminate submissive penetrative (on the receiving end) sex with their wives. So its retarded to argue that a man being penetrated as if he was gay isn't also closeted when gay men are having "straighter" sex lives than he does :feelskek:

Your mental gymnastics is of the highest quality

And when I become gay in your eyes by these very rare genderswap fantasies, I can't do anything against it

#BornThisWay

Nothing makes a man gay, when done with a woman, only effeminate

You don't seem to get the point, that's exactly what makes him closeted. He's merely using the woman as a stand in (AS A PROP) for what he really wants (to be fucked by a man), but he hates the idea of "being gay" so the woman is just there to "play a role", thereby allowing him to mentally retain his "heterosexual status", but its nothing but bullshit mental gymnastics

Its like a vegan saying - "I don't like meat, I don't ever want to eat meat"

Yet all they eat are plant based meat substitute foods and products that give their meals the consistency, texture and taste of meat

"Its all made of plants............ see, I don't like meat at all, I love plant food" :feelstastyman:

repulsed by the idea of sex of a man with another man.
I only like the idea of being passive and get pleasure effortlessly, for which I envy females. I even have one or two times a year the fantasy of being a woman.

I like how you are now carefully wording your responses with mental gymnastics wired in to justify the faggotry :feelskek:

"I'm repulsed by the idea of sex of a man WITH ANOTHER MAN, but you see when I fantasize about me BEING A WOMAN and GETTING FUCKED in that context I'M A WOMAN so its not repulsive............. none of this is gay btw"

Oh yeah, makes perfect sense, perfectly sound rationalization, definitely not lying to yourself

Where do you make your line between "(closet) gay" and "still heterosexual"?

If you are closeted you are gay, there is no "still heterosexual", closeted just means you are in denial and hiding, it doesn't mean you are "in transition" or some bullshit

Dude aren't you one of the guys I've argued with before who was religious and an adamant Christian?

Wtf kind of super mental gymnastics skills do you possess to be saying all the shit you've said so far, its like you don't have a consistent framework of beliefs at all, its all over the place (or maybe I've confused you with some other user)

You have almost a quarter of incels on .co who voted cowgirl positions as their favorite.

I don't know what kind of porn you watch, but "cow-girl" position is usually the position where the woman gets a lot of pounding, and if you'd go back and watch that gif you conveniently refuse to see, that gif is probably the kind of scenes you are watching for you to think of the cowgirl position as "submissive" by default. It depends on whats being done to whom, and based on what you've said so far I know what you like to see


Do you get the difference between being the submissive and the dominant now?

Of course during sex if a woman is enjoying herself she's going to "fuck back", that's expected, but the extent to which that takes place determines whether you were the dominant or the submissive
 
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If a woman puts on a strap on that shoots out warm fake jizz when she hits a button (per request of the man), deep throats the guy, shoots the stuff down his throat, fucks him in the ass, shoots it down his ass, etc, and after all of that shit, he can walk out of that room and say he's straight because "well a woman did it"?
Ok, I'll see, that this is a weird kink with homoerotic touch, but I see it from a biblical sense and there is a difference between normal, effeminate and man laying down with another man. (But also I guess the bible doesn't know about the invention of strap-ons.)
When you see "straight" as a label of masculinity, like a status-symbol, which you can lose with certain behavior, then you may right. But when it is about sexual attraction, then not. Is everyone into ageplay pedophile? Everyone in raceplay a racist?
For you, a submissive man = gay man. That's a redefining of words, maybe you don't want to be put in the same group of men, I don't know.

And that there are gays who are in marriages to keep a straight facade, doesn't mean that because when gays have "straight" sex, everyone, who acts "less straight" and dominant is automatically gay. Like I said above, I doubt that these guys are the majority of the submissive kinks and acts - but yes your theory that some of them (of the strapon receiving dudes) use the woman as a "stand in" can be right. But it keeps a theory as long there is not hard data around.
And also I don't know if somebody is "submissive" or "dominant" as a fixed trait. It may depend on time and partner and even when nothing changes, it may be a small part of the whole sexual life. I, for example, have the cowgirl fantasy only when I lie on my back in my bed half-asleep. It is convenient and a small step to imagine a woman on top of me then.

Since I have a porn blocker I can't watch your examples. For me the cowgirl position is - and so was also the gif in the cowgirl thread in the OP, before it was deleted: The male lies on the back, women on top and she does all or the majority of the movement. You don't become gay, when you don't thrust back as often and hard as she moves.

Next to the convenience, I like to see the desire of a female. I know you get turned on when the women feel repugnance and disgust (talk about sexual deviancy * ), but one of my biggest turn-ons is, to see her pleasure and desire. When she moves, it is one way to express such desire: When she doesn't lay only like a starfish, but move herself it shows that she wants it and wants me. That she even overcome her passive role for a short amount of time to gain such pleasure.

I even had such phantasies* of disgust, but they make also a very small part. I don't define my sexuality out of some images, who pop up, who I enjoy some more or some less. Most of my desires currently aren't even about penetration but cuddling. Then come blowjobs and then penetrative sex. Of them, the most are "straight" (no cowgirl), but they seem often tiresome and strenuous for me, especially Missionary, which I associate with the effort of planking plus stress through extra movements.
You see, it is not all so simple to explain.
 
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For you, a submissive man = gay man. That's a redefining of words

No submissive man means submissive man, but the submissive role in sex is the role of one who is dominated and in most cases penetrated, hence why I assert that submissive sexual acts are the root of men veering towards homosexuality, because you are delving into sexual experiences that leads to homoerotica as you are imitating the role of a woman in bed, and therefore the role of a gay "bottom" in bed. You are literally committing sexual acts that gay men commit, saying that it "involved a woman" doesn't mean anything, because the act is by definition one that should be done to a woman not to a man (as per the sexual roles)

You saying there are no roles (which I hope you aren't) is like you saying there are more than 2 genders, its just leftist liberal bullshit, and very ironic for an incel to believe

Like I said before, a vegan can't claim to hate meat, when all they basically eat is "fake meat" products that imitate the texture, consistency and taste of meat, clearly they like meat but they don't like the IDEA OF EATING MEAT

Since I have a porn blocker I can't watch your examples. For me the cowgirl position is - and so was also the gif in the cowgirl thread in the OP, before it was

You can simply temporarily disable it, you are literally avoiding evidence at this point

You don't become gay, when you don't thrust back as often and hard as she moves.

Nice strawman, I think I'll end it here, I'm not literally going to argue with a guy who says he fantasizes about being fucked as a female whether he is gay or not, that's just ridiculous, your faggotry is self evident in your own self admitted fantasies

Also JFL at you being a religious moralfag who is at the same time a faggot, I swear religious people are retarded and don't get contradictions

"I'm a servant of God, yeah I fantasize about getting fucked as a woman, I'm still a Christian"

Yeah sure, I'm sure it works like that, you are definitely going to heaven :feelskek:
 
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Its completely logical, pretty much everybody hates rich people that flaunt wealth, you know who you'd hate more, a rich person that flaunts wealth and refused to hire you even embarrassing you during your interview with them. They have something you want and they denied you access to it, so of course you'll hate them more

Both men and women are normies, but men aren't the ones rejecting you and denying you something you want so badly