It's just annoying when they're like 16-17 and saying how truecel they are and then the next day "they escaped" or a girl gave them attention so they become bluepilled af. Most of them aren't even actively asking girls out, going out and trying to improve themselves as much as possible to give them the best chance. If they tried it all and they are still incel then by all means you are welcome here. Once you're out of college and still incel then it's truly over and you got 0% chance of escaping so just LDAR. But in the mean time you gotta at least TRY before you got the "it's over" attitude.