[RageFuel] I hate "MUH EVOLUTION" cels

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Honestly, I can go 1 point below my looks match, I am a 5/10 facially, I am 5'5 and 120 lb manlet though, and aspie, I can't go too far below my looks match (I can't get my dick hard for fugly 1/10's or deformity cases, land whales, etc). I think any guy who settles for a woman more than 1 attraction point lower than his looks match is making inceldom worse, he is fueling female entitlement to men whom are physically out of their leagues. And thereby helping make another guy, who is her looks match, even more incel. We need to hold fast to our dignity and not be so quick to sell it at the first whiff of pussy.
That's a good rule in today's cucked climate, but hopefully in the near future we'll be able to get 1-2 points above our looksmatch.
 
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That's a good rule in today's cucked climate, but hopefully in the near future we'll be able to get 1-2 points above our looksmatch.
"Jut Goebbelsmaxx and fix your fucked up genes byreproducing with someone way above your looksmatch" theory :feelsokman:
 
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"Jut Goebbelsmaxx and fix your fucked up genes byreproducing with someone way above your looksmatch" theory :feelsokman:
I don't want to reproduce that much, I just want a hot wife for my own selfish reasons.
 
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I don't want to reproduce that much, I just want a hot wife for my own selfish reasons.
Same tbh. I'm also pretty much an antinatalist, would only reproduce if I were REALLY well-off and could give an awesome life to my offspring without much effort. Even so, it's questionable whether I'd do it tbh.

I just can't manage to be happy without sex/relationships with women I'm attracted to. I have tried but my personality and T levels aren't compatible at all with that lifestyle.
 
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Same tbh. I'm also pretty much an antinatalist, would only reproduce if I were REALLY well-off and could give an awesome life to my offspring without much effort. Even so, it's questionable whether I'd do it tbh.
I'm about your age and I think when you get older you stop caring about having kids, especially if you're not extremely well off in this cucked climate.
I just can't manage to be happy without sex/relationships with women I'm attracted to. I have tried but my personality and T levels aren't compatible at all with that lifestyle.
If we can't ascend then we need to escortcel at least. But I live in a place where escortcelling is too expensive and I'm broke, hopefully I can get out this bad situation soon.
 
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I don't want to reproduce that much, I just want a hot wife for my own selfish reasons.
I think reaching above our looks match is kind of hypocritical and overly entitled, if it's wrong for women to do it then it's wrong for men to do it also. I feel we must be consistent, one thing I am not is immature or hypocritical. I'm far from a white knight fag but I do believe in being consistent. Otherwise nobody has any reason to listen to anything we have to say.

Within 1 pt differential in looks match can be debated as there is a degree of subjectivity, however, the more attraction points differential, the less subjectivity there is. So one could argue whose better looking or say they are close enough to the same league btw a 4 and a 5, but if it's a 4 and a 7 there is no arguing, no debate.
 
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I think reaching above our looks match is kind of hypocritical and overly entitled, if it's wrong for women to do it then it's wrong for men to do it also. I feel we must be consistent, one thing I am not is immature or hypocritical. I'm far from a white knight fag but I do believe in being consistent. Otherwise nobody has any reason to listen to anything we have to say.

Within 1 pt differential in looks match can be debated as there is a degree of subjectivity, however, the more attraction points differential, the less subjectivity there is. So one could argue whose better looking or say they are close enough to the same league btw a 4 and a 5, but if it's a 4 and a 7 there is no arguing, no debate.
To me I think there are more attractive women. So if there is a town with 50 foid 5's and 30 7's and 20 10's, but there are 50 male 3's and 30 6's and 20 8's, that doesn't mean the male 8's get to hog all the 10's and 7's.
 
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To me I think there are more attractive women. So if there is a town with 50 foid 5's and 30 7's and 20 10's, but there are 50 male 3's and 30 6's and 20 8's, that doesn't mean the male 8's get to hog all the 10's and 7's.
yeah agreed, still though I think we should try to keep things as even and fair as possible. We shouldn't enter with the mentality of anyone shooting above their league, generally this stuff worked itself out naturally in a monogamous society. People were generally evenly matched.

Honestly, I don't necessarily hate women born and raised in a patriarchal society, I hate what women have become due to unrestrained gynocentrism. Women shouldn't have the same rights as men, under a patriarchy men and women enjoy different privileges and different burdens.

Western society is against patriarchy because to them, women should be handed everything and shouldn't have a single drop of adversity. It's "oppression" when women don't get to vote, but it's "just part of being a man" when men are expected to do the dangerous work and we end up with 97% males dying on the job... Because her right to vote apparently outweighs his right to live. Meanwhile men are still obligated to sign for selective service for our fake right to vote (that's another issue, but none of our votes, to this day, really counts for anything).
 
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yeah agreed, still though I think we should try to keep things as even and fair as possible. We shouldn't enter with the mentality of anyone shooting above their league, generally this stuff worked itself out naturally in a monogamous society. People were generally evenly matched.

Honestly, I don't necessarily hate women born and raised in a patriarchal society, I hate what women have become due to unrestrained gynocentrism. Women shouldn't have the same rights as men, under a patriarchy men and women enjoy different privileges and different burdens.

Western society is against patriarchy because to them, women should be handed everything and shouldn't have a single drop of adversity. It's "oppression" when women don't get to vote, but it's "just part of being a man" when men are expected to do the dangerous work and we end up with 97% males dying on the job... Because her right to vote apparently outweighs his right to live. Meanwhile men are still obligated to sign for selective service for our fake right to vote (that's another issue, but none of our votes, to this day, really counts for anything).
I don't mind taking some responsibility if I'm guaranteed to get rewarded for it. As long as I get a foid around my looksmatch and I don't have to worry about getting cucked or divorce raped, then I'll be happy. We should be allowed to hit our wives if they get out of line too.
 
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I don't mind taking some responsibility if I'm guaranteed to get rewarded for it. As long as I get a foid around my looksmatch and I don't have to worry about getting cucked or divorce raped, then I'll be happy. We should be allowed to hit our wives if they get out of line too.
Yeah if it's absolutely necessary, I don't support violence for the sake of violence, but if she is really getting out of line and it becomes necessary then yeah, if she starts trying to manipulate or hit her man or whatever...

Rights come with responsibilities, western society doesn't think this should be the case for women. They think men should have all the responsibilities, and women should have all the rights.
 
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Rights come with responsibilities, western society doesn't think this should be the case for women. They think men should have all the responsibilities, and women should have all the rights.
That's why fat landwhales can fuck gigachads and gymcels can't get anything. This cucked system we have won't be sustainable for longer.
 
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That's why fat landwhales can fuck gigachads and gymcels can't get anything. This cucked system we have won't be sustainable for longer.
That's why I don't understand the arbitrary hatred of fatcels, if a fatcel is being rejected by women who are just as fat as he is, then why should he feel compelled to gym max for some fat hot air balloon cunt whose never spent 5 minutes on getting HER body into shape? How would that even be a fair deal? Now if he's fat and he's only chasing women who are way out of his league, then yeah, volcel, but if he's getting rejected by his looks match then I can't see it as "volcel."
 
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That's why I don't understand the arbitrary hatred of fatcels, if a fatcel is being rejected by women who are just as fat as he is, then why should he feel compelled to gym max for some fat hot air balloon cunt whose never spent 5 minutes on getting HER body into shape? How would that even be a fair deal? Now if he's fat and he's only chasing women who are way out of his league, then yeah, volcel, but if he's getting rejected by his looks match then I can't see it as "volcel."
I would hope by the time most fat guys reach the age 13 they figure out they won't be able to get hot thin foids unless they're millionaires or SEAmax.
 
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I would hope by the time most fat guys reach the age 13 they figure out they won't be able to get hot thin foids unless they're millionaires or SEAmax.
Yeah, ironically though, some moderately fat guys (mainly thug types or whatever) can actually pull decent ass. Usually they are ethnic thug types though... Now there is a difference between moderately fat and just plain fat.
 
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Yeah, ironically though, some moderately fat guys (mainly thug types or whatever) can actually pull decent ass. Usually they are ethnic thug types though... Now there is a difference between moderately fat and just plain fat.
I agree, I've seen that too. Thugmaxxing is legit for degenerate foids.
 
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I agree, I've seen that too. Thugmaxxing is legit for degenerate foids.
I also see fat guys who can get with their fat looks matches, even though they may be less physically attractive than many incels, they are still technically normies because they can attract their looks matches enough to have a normal social/sexual life. This kinda confuses things on some levels. But those guys still get treated better than we do in many circumstances... So do settle-cels, normal looking men who date down several leagues out of desperation, they can hide their "loser" status this way...
 
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I also see fat guys who can get with their fat looks matches, even though they may be less physically attractive than many incels, they are still technically normies because they can attract their looks matches enough to have a normal social/sexual life.
Normies who get their looksmatch are getting rarer everyday. Now it's either you're a chad or a cuck and little in between.
settle-cels, normal looking men who date down several leagues out of desperation, they can hide their "loser" status this way...
They're still very much losers if they date way below their looksmatch, and they are taking away from guys who are less attractive than them.
 
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Normies who get their looksmatch are getting rarer everyday. Now it's either you're a chad or a cuck and little in between.

They're still very much losers if they date way below their looksmatch, and they are taking away from guys who are less attractive than them.

Yeah, those fat guys with fat women may be a situation of post-wall women settling for their looks match because they can't fuck chad anymore. I generally only see this with couples who are in their 30's and up.

And as for guys dating down taking options away from less attractive men, I agree 100%, this is why I don't understand alleged truecels spamming accusations of volcel to 4s and 5s on here who aren't into banging 1s and shit, they are literally shaming other men for not fucking them over more.
 
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Yeah, those fat guys with fat women may be a situation of post-wall women settling for their looks match because they can't fuck chad anymore. I generally only see this with couples who are in their 30's and up.
That's terrible, they're still getting cucked. I don't want my old used up looksmatch, I want my young virgin or near virgin looksmatch, then I'll be ok with betabuxxing.
And as for guys dating down taking options away from less attractive men, I agree 100%, this is why I don't understand alleged truecels spamming accusations of volcel to 4s and 5s on here who aren't into banging 1s and shit, they are literally shaming other men for not fucking them over more.
Some guys here are low iq and don't see the big picture.
 
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That's terrible, they're still getting cucked. I don't want my old used up looksmatch, I want my young virgin or near virgin looksmatch, then I'll be ok with betabuxxing.

Some guys here are low iq and don't see the big picture.
Yeah I still wouldn't betabux, to me that's falling into a cuck trap too.... No offense to you personally. I'll go back to chivalry when women get back in the kitchen.
 
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Yeah I still wouldn't betabux, to me that's falling into a cuck trap too.... No offense to you personally. I'll go back to chivalry when women get back in the kitchen.
I think it would be ok for me to betabux a little, since I'll only settle for a young virgin even though I'm over 30.
 
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I think it would be ok for me to betabux a little, since I'll only settle for a young virgin even though I'm over 30.
I'd rather just go to hookers than beta bux to be honest.... But I'm getting older now, just turned 39, my sex drive is waning, and I'm in the early stages of not giving a fuck and quitting the whole escort-celing thing.
 
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As much as I hate S O C I E T Y (we live here) the evolution theory is not wrong.
Every species that mates has a quota of demand for dick and pussy. This can be explained by natural means (evolution: pussy is at a premium because giving pussy meant 9mo pregnancy) or modern supply and demand (supply of dick far exceeds demand, in fact there is no demand for dick).
Hate as much as you want, I see no reason to believe foids will ever transcend their evolutionary programming.
 
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I'd rather just go to hookers than beta bux to be honest.... But I'm getting older now, just turned 39, my sex drive is waning, and I'm in the early stages of not giving a fuck and quitting the whole escort-celing thing.
Hookers are 100% better than betabuxxing a 30 year old rostie. Hopefully sexbots will be perfected soon then we can drop femoids for good until their smv lowers.
This can be explained by natural means (evolution: pussy is at a premium because giving pussy meant 9mo pregnancy)
That doesn't make sense because foids fuck any chad they see. If they cared so much about their precious reproducing pussies they'd stay with one man instead of being whores. Foids do a lot of things that are detrimental to themselves because they're low iq and must be controlled.
 
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That doesn't make sense because foids fuck any chad they see. If they cared so much about their precious reproducing pussies they'd stay with one man instead of being whores. Foids do a lot of things that are detrimental to themselves because they are low iq and must be controlled.
The foid seeks the chad because (1) she can afford to because she knows chad will fuck her (in contrast to men who seek stacies but have no chance) (2) her evolutionary mindset says SEEK HIGH VALUE MALE because of the now outdated 1 fuck == 9mo pregnancy rule.
So actually the foid is caring for her pussy and her ego at once by going after the top percentages of males.
 
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(2) her evolutionary mindset says SEEK HIGH VALUE MALE because of the now outdated 1 fuck == 9mo pregnancy rule.
So actually the foid is caring for her pussy and her ego at once by going after the top percentages of males.
She is not caring about her pussy letting dozens of chads fuck her, because then no one will raise the baby. No chad is going to be a good father. We have to make sure the highest value male a femoid can get is her looksmacth and nothing more.
 
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We have to make sure the highest value male a femoid can get is her looksmacth and nothing more.
How though? Who can stop the thot?
 
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How though? Who can stop the thot?
Slut shaming, chadfishing, taking away femoid privileges, no pussy passes in court, legalizing prostitution, lowering AoC, putting advanced sexbots on the market, give men male birth control, blackpill the bluepill cucks, etc.. Then femoid smv will lower substantially, and getting your looksmatch will be more attainable.
 
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Slut shaming, chadfishing, taking away femoid privileges, no pussy passes in court, legalizing prostitution, lowering AoC, putting advanced sexbots on the market, give men male birth control, blackpill the bluepill cucks, etc.. Then femoid smv will lower substantially, and getting your looksmatch will be more attainable.
I want to believe. But this is all stuff that MIGHT happen in the coming decades. Hard to see any light right now.
 
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I want to believe. But this is all stuff that MIGHT happen in the coming decades. Hard to see any light right now.
That's why we have to work on it. Hopefully the blackpill spreads fast, but we need more meetups and high production blackpill youtube videos.
 
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"10% of Chads monopolize all worthwhile women in society while all of us get to be virgins for life? But that's natural, because evolution bro, that's how things are supposed to be".

Nothing here is more odious than that low IQ, low T, garbage.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when a foid spends all her fertile years fucking Chads with contraception and then marries a betabuxx and gets pregnant from him.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when a 40yo man gets an erection next to a 13yo JB.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when a high T guy rapes a foid.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when we live in a modern civilized society that curbs our impulses, especially sexual impulses, left and right while foids are totally free to go rampant on their Chad- and Thug-chasing, creating an army of single mom households from which tons of criminals and dysfunctional people will come, destroying the birth rate of countries, creating a horde of incels like us.

If you want "evolution", then let's have the full package, not just foid's sexuality being free and all the other shit being controlled.
I recommend you reading about ancient civilizations thousands of years ago and how daily life was back then. You will realize that humans were as shit as they are today. The only difference is that we have more technology. Women always chased good looking chads and troughout human history only few males ever procreated. Technology just made things easier for them.
 
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That's why we have to work on it. Hopefully the blackpill spreads fast, but we need more meetups and high production blackpill youtube videos.
I do have hope.
 
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I recommend you reading about ancient civilizations thousands of years ago and how daily life was back then. You will realize that humans were as shit as they are today. The only difference is that we have more technology. Women always chased good looking chads and troughout human history only few males ever procreated. Technology just made things easier for them.
Just because not many men reproduced doesn't mean they ween't having sex, and lots of babies died early because of unhygienic medical practices. Technology can also be used against femoids to lower their smv, like with sexbots, male birth control, and artificial wombs.
 
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Just because not many men reproduced doesn't mean they ween't having sex, and lots of babies died early because of unhygienic medical practices. Technology can also be used against femoids to lower their smv, like with sexbots, male birth control, and artificial wombs.
There still were incels and all kind of undesirables that never got a chance tbh. But im really interested to see how sexbots etc. will change society in the future. Sexrobot waifu, when?
 
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There still were incels and all kind of undesirables that never got a chance tbh.
That's true but there weren't as many incels as there are now. Back then you'd have to be a real fuck up to be a complete incel.
 
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Society = a result of human nature = nature

You can hate foids but you should hate nature more. Id start some forest fires if I could still feel adrenaline but its pointless. We lost the genetic lottery and will always be inferior and powerless in the face of nature/satan
 
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Society = a result of human nature = nature

You can hate foids but you should hate nature more. Id start some forest fires if I could still feel adrenaline but its pointless. We lost the genetic lottery and will always be inferior and powerless in the face of nature/satan
Cope. A bunch of cucks and rostie whores are no match for us.
 
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Fuck nature she can suck my balls I want to reproduce even if that means my offspring will be genetically inferior
 
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this whole myth that 10% of chads monopolizing all the pussy leading to superior offspring is incredibly thick-headed, it leads to harems and harems lead to inbreeding, and inbreeding leaders to dumber, weaker offspring. Lets say we drop the normies (sexual middle class) as they will drop off once we go into a full-blown polygamist society. So now you've got 80% of women making babies with 10^ of men for the next generation, well, that entire generation is already more interrelated now. When they grow up and start shacking up, the next generation is gonna be even more inbred. And so on...

If you want links I can drop a shit ton of them on polygamist communities, muslims, mormons, etc. They are inbred as fuck. I dunno, I guess if you can watch wrong turn and think "damn those folks are so superior" then maybe you're onto something. Otherwise I'd say stop sucking up to your "superiors" so much and have some dignity.
 
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this whole myth that 10% of chads monopolizing all the pussy leading to superior offspring is incredibly thick-headed, it leads to harems and harems lead to inbreeding, and inbreeding leaders to dumber, weaker offspring. Lets say we drop the normies (sexual middle class) as they will drop off once we go into a full-blown polygamist society. So now you've got 80% of women making babies with 10^ of men for the next generation, well, that entire generation is already more interrelated now. When they grow up and start shacking up, the next generation is gonna be even more inbred. And so on...

If you want links I can drop a shit ton of them on polygamist communities, muslims, mormons, etc. They are inbred as fuck. I dunno, I guess if you can watch wrong turn and think "damn those folks are so superior" then maybe you're onto something. Otherwise I'd say stop sucking up to your "superiors" so much and have some dignity.
High iq. That's why it's in men's nature to control foids, and not be pathetic limp wristed cucks that let low iq foids walk all over them.
 
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this whole myth that 10% of chads monopolizing all the pussy leading to superior offspring is incredibly thick-headed, it leads to harems and harems lead to inbreeding, and inbreeding leaders to dumber, weaker offspring. Lets say we drop the normies (sexual middle class) as they will drop off once we go into a full-blown polygamist society. So now you've got 80% of women making babies with 10^ of men for the next generation, well, that entire generation is already more interrelated now. When they grow up and start shacking up, the next generation is gonna be even more inbred. And so on...

If you want links I can drop a shit ton of them on polygamist communities, muslims, mormons, etc. They are inbred as fuck. I dunno, I guess if you can watch wrong turn and think "damn those folks are so superior" then maybe you're onto something. Otherwise I'd say stop sucking up to your "superiors" so much and have some dignity.
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Can't agree with this more.

Every single time a "suhvivle of thuh fitness" thread comes up, there's always a remarkably large contingent of passive, nihilistic naturecucks who jump rabidly at the opportunity to rip their hunched backs open with the slave's whip of self-abasement.

Notwithstanding that this primal state of strife is incompatible with complex society (but is a state toward which it self-destructively devolves out of complacency, hubris, tiredness, materialism, analytical hypertrophy and the contradictions it is unable to resolve, etc.), it is not even an intelligent, rational system. Again, rationality is now employed in the capacity of justifying barbarism, in the undoing of order and the manufacturing of "self-evident" truths, not in preemptively apprehending the form it assumes and placing it under control as had been done in the phase of building up, the task toward which the highest of man's organizational faculties were previously devoted. These same talents are now in the service of stripping away duty, obligation, and constraint - to make the world a playpen of constantly accessible gratification, a stable of disloyal servants, eternally running in place, motivated to serve by the phantom of "feeling good". It was formerly in man's nature to control himself and others - to intelligently reign in his base and volatile impulses, justifiably assuming cooperation from his associates - toward a common goal. For a variety of reasons, he (more appropriately, she) is convinced now that he doesn't have to. That he is finally free, even if he clearly isn't.

"Chad" is a man desired by foids. That's it. It's no true measure of worth. That Chad monopolizing foids is "natural" is a reductive naturecuck fantasy and a civilizationally-constrained elevation of female desire to the prime phenomenon of nature - to be respected and upheld in total isolation of whatever else might occur in the most primal state of nature. However, this state would extend to men at each other's throats ruthlessly in order to secure a foid - i.e. it is natural for you to obey your will and oppose, to take.

"Can't hate nature boyo" (i.e. foid agency, with no respect to anything else) is weak and gay; a subordination of your own nature.

Regarding polygamy, etc., not only are inbred populations liable to high rates of recessive disorders, they are also a less robust platform for true natural selection due to limited genetic variation and, because the population size will likely be smaller, are more vulnerable to genetic drift. See how "genetically superior" jocksucker Chad with a 8/10 face and nothing else is when his recessive cystic fibrosis allele is inherited by half of the children he sires from 3/10 roasts.
 
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Never bought the whole evolution thing. While attraction certainly has a biological component, the real reason for womens pickiness is simply that they're spoiled and over pampered by modern men.
 
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Can't agree with this more.

Every single time a "suhvivle of thuh fitness" thread comes up, there's always a remarkably large contingent of passive, nihilistic naturecucks who jump rabidly at the opportunity to rip their hunched backs open with the slave's whip of self-abasement.

Notwithstanding that this primal state of strife is incompatible with complex society (but is a state toward which it self-destructively devolves out of complacency, hubris, tiredness, materialism, analytical hypertrophy and the contradictions it is unable to resolve, etc.), it is not even an intelligent, rational system. Again, rationality is now employed in the capacity of justifying barbarism, in the undoing of order and the manufacturing of "self-evident" truths, not in preemptively apprehending the form it assumes and placing it under control as had been done in the phase of building up, the task toward which the highest of man's organizational faculties were previously devoted. These same talents are now in the service of stripping away duty, obligation, and constraint - to make the world a playpen of constantly accessible gratification, a stable of disloyal servants, eternally running in place, motivated to serve by the phantom of "feeling good". It was formerly in man's nature to control himself and others - to intelligently reign in his base and volatile impulses, justifiably assuming cooperation from his associates - toward a common goal. For a variety of reasons, he (more appropriately, she) is convinced now that he doesn't have to. That he is finally free, even if he clearly isn't.

"Chad" is a man desired by foids. That's it. It's no true measure of worth. That Chad monopolizing foids is "natural" is a reductive naturecuck fantasy and a civilizationally-constrained elevation of female desire to the prime phenomenon of nature - to be respected and upheld in total isolation of whatever else might occur in the most primal state of nature. However, this state would extend to men at each other's throats ruthlessly in order to secure a foid - i.e. it is natural for you to obey your will and oppose, to take.

"Can't hate nature boyo" (i.e. foid agency, with no respect to anything else) is weak and gay; a subordination of your own nature.

Regarding polygamy, etc., not only are inbred populations liable to high rates of recessive disorders, they are also a less robust platform for true natural selection due to limited genetic variation and, because the population size will likely be smaller, are more vulnerable to genetic drift. See how "genetically superior" jocksucker Chad with a 8/10 face and nothing else is when his recessive cystic fibrosis allele is inherited by half of the children he sires from 3/10 roasts.
100% agreed, further I will add here, I dislike how patriarchy is always framed as being anti-female or oppressive to women, if we are talking soft (monogamous) patriarchy here. Women are far from oppressed, just because they don't get to vote (which honestly, in "civilized" society, nobody's vote counts to this day and it wouldn't matter if it did because none of the candidates, whom are selected, not elected, are in it for the people anyhow). I am an anarcho-patriarch, patriarchy is small communities of about 200 or less (which would rely on building breeding alliances with other such communities, to prevent the inbreeding threat).

Women have other biological privileges which are respected in a soft patriarchy. They still pick the man (they just have meritocratic traditions in place to keep them in their own leagues), she can pick a man who will dedicate his life to supporting and taking care of her and her offspring, and who is willing to risk his life so that she can live a life of leisure and safety. This is half of why women don't vote in a patriarchy. Male authority balances out chivalry. In a healthy society, all young men can find work. So to say women not voting is "oppression" well, then how oppressive is it for men who have to literally risk their lives as protectors, for the right to vote in the community?

While I am (rightly) somewhat angry at women and at noncel society, I am not a patriarchist out of hatred to women, I am a patriarchist out of sympathy for men, and the sound rationale that leads to strong, productive communities.
 
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Whether it's natural or not, doesn't matter in the grand scheme. Take away the societal reigns on the status quo, and you'd still have incels lose by virtue of being fragile and weak, aka Chad still wins and gets the fuck his harem of women. Strip away the structure and comforts of society and Chad will still find a way to win.
Chad's back in the day had to sleep and in real life nobody has a spider sense. Betas got Chad to agree to civilization because he was tired of people rising up to kill him to take his women.
 
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Betas got Chad to agree to civilization because he was tired of people rising up to kill him to take his women.
It looks like we're going to have to go back to that since a lot of us aren't getting any women.
 
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It looks like we're going to have to go back to that since a lot of us aren't getting any women.
Chads of the tribes got all the women while the lessor men slaved away and eventually the lesser man would get tired of that shit and would murder all the Chads and his sons while keeping his daughters and the other women for themselves and they would fuck until the tribe collapse and they're bastards split off and created new tribes and even then not every guy Got a Woman because the betas would fight and kill amongst themselves.

Sometimes jealous Chad's would kill other top men for more women but most of the time it was the betas doing the killing through poisoning Chad's food, killing him when he slept or just plain beta uprising.

And throughout history as civilization developed we used to have little Snippets where men knew what women were capable of and can do the kept them and check and to be forewarned about Chad.

Dad used to tell his kid that he was the man of the house while he was gone because Dad knew that once he walked out the door the mom or daughter would do something stupid like bring Chad's over because there's nobody to keep them accountable while he's away so the son had to be accountable.

Chad had to play secret agent and sneak through the house or get the girls somewhere alone because the brothers and the dad would kill his ass if they found him.

It's just now in this feminist empowered era that Chad can walk through the door and fuck a lady's daughter and then as he's walking out the door get a goodbye blowjob from her mom while he goes to pick up some money from his bitch that he's living with. A feminist Society is not natural and anybody trying to talk about nature and natural selection in a civilization is a retard.
 
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They pretend to be hopeless because they actually have hope. Let me explain: Being overly defeatist is actually a signal that a person sends when they want society to help them. And they send the signal because they think there is a chance that society might actually help them. A hungry man might say "Getting food is HOPELESS for me" because he wants someone to give him food. An incel might say "Getting a woman is HOPELESS for me" because he wants society to give him a woman. They haven't fully grasped that society does not care about them. An incel might say "I don't deserve a woman" because he wants society to pat him on the back and say "No you do deserve a woman" and help him get a woman. Of course, this isn't going to happen because incels are not one of the categories of people that society cares about.

Truly blackpilled incels realize society isn't going to help them, so they make no effort to try to get society to help them. Truly blackpilled incels instead focus their energy on hating sluts and degenerates, and undermining the rotten society they live in so that it can collapse more quickly and a more incel-friendly culture can sooner take its place.
 
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"10% of Chads monopolize all worthwhile women in society while all of us get to be virgins for life? But that's natural, because evolution bro, that's how things are supposed to be".

Nothing here is more odious than that low IQ, low T, garbage.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when a foid spends all her fertile years fucking Chads with contraception and then marries a betabuxx and gets pregnant from him.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when a 40yo man gets an erection next to a 13yo JB.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when a high T guy rapes a foid.

No one talks about "evolution" or "that's natural" when we live in a modern civilized society that curbs our impulses, especially sexual impulses, left and right while foids are totally free to go rampant on their Chad- and Thug-chasing, creating an army of single mom households from which tons of criminals and dysfunctional people will come, destroying the birth rate of countries, creating a horde of incels like us.

If you want "evolution", then let's have the full package, not just foid's sexuality being free and all the other shit being controlled.
Rape is "natural". So are school shootings, pedophilia, eating feces, cannibalism and homosexuality. Nature is retarded and evil.
 

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