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I am on day 34 of nofap, waking up with raging boners, getting distracted with pics and videos of women when I am surfing the web (I don't watch porn) but I am still too scared of judgement.

I will wait until I have phenibut, have any of you guys tried this shit? I just can't do it sober, not after my awful previous experience.

I keep telling myself over and over in my head to ignore her judgement and just fuck her body, but I can't, this is just too deep rooted into my mind. The only way I could fuck a woman right now is if she was attracted to me.
 
Where are you finding hookers? I need to find one
 
Dude I'm getting tired of this stupid shit so I'm just gonna put you on my ignore list, if we go by your logic nobody can stop being blue pilled then because its so "deep rooted" into their minds, you don't get to pick and choose like a hypocrite which aspects of life you get to be black pilled or blue pilled, you are either all of one thing or none of anything and just kidding yourself

If you can't have sex with a woman because you can't stop being blue pilled about validation, then stop beating around the bush and go full betabuxx, but complaining about something all the time that you can quite literally just change your mindset on is ridiculous, become a betabuxx or shut the fuck up
 
Why rent a pussy when you're one yourself
 
Where are you finding hookers? I need to find one
On the internet, they have their own place and everything, some are really hot and cheap here.
Dude I'm getting tired of this stupid shit so I'm just gonna put you on my ignore list, if we go by your logic nobody can stop being blue pilled then because its so "deep rooted" into their minds, you don't get to pick and choose like a hypocrite which aspects of life you get to be black pilled or blue pilled, you are either all of one thing or none of anything and just kidding yourself

If you can't have sex with a woman because you can't stop being blue pilled about validation, then stop beating around the bush and go full betabuxx, but complaining about something all the time that you can quite literally just change your mindset on is ridiculous, become a betabuxx or shut the fuck up
OK
 
@BlkPillPres thinks feelings are like thoughts, that you have full control over.

You can't simply stop caring about other's judgement because you decided to. I've been trying to ignore other people for 10 years, with no success. Some problems can only be solved with drugs.
 
I am on day 34 of nofap, waking up with raging boners, getting distracted with pics and videos of women when I am surfing the web (I don't watch porn) but I am still too scared of judgement.

I will wait until I have phenibut, have any of you guys tried this shit? I just can't do it sober, not after my awful previous experience.

I keep telling myself over and over in my head to ignore her judgement and just fuck her body, but I can't, this is just too deep rooted into my mind. The only way I could fuck a woman right now is if she was attracted to me.

Dude, I can't use a treadmill at the gym if there's a woman next to me. I can't even look a female cashier in the eyes. Yet after the first 2 times I had no problems visiting hookers. There was a thrill because of how taboo it at least where I live, but I wasn't really nervous at all about meeting her in person. It feels really professional if you go to one that knows what she's doing. Make sure to read the reviews. This is very important if you want to have a good experience.
And yes, phenibut is great. Feels just like being drunk. Make sure to research the amount you should take. I weigh 70kg and 2g fuck me up just a little too much so I go for 1.5g
Beware, phenibut will make you horny, but it'll make it hard to cum. At least from my experience.
 
Dude, I can't use a treadmill at the gym if there's a woman next to me. I can't even look a female cashier in the eyes. Yet after the first 2 times I had no problems visiting hookers. There was a thrill because of how taboo it at least where I live, but I wasn't really nervous at all about meeting her in person. It feels really professional if you go to one that knows what she's doing. Make sure to read the reviews. This is very important if you want to have a good experience.
And yes, phenibut is great. Feels just like being drunk. Make sure to research the amount you should take. I weigh 70kg and 2g fuck me up just a little too much so I go for 1.5g
Beware, phenibut will make you horny, but it'll make it hard to cum. At least from my experience.
Do you have a driver's license? I am afraid I might have problems driving while under this stuff.

It's weird how you have no problems meeting hookers but get nervous about using a treadmill next to a woman... maybe we have different problems? Since I have a lot of problems with the former but none with the later.

Btw thanks for this informative comment.
 
@BlkPillPres thinks feelings are like thoughts, that you have full control over

They literally are, you can make yourself cry (well at least tear up) at will by bringing up memories or thoughts that you think are "sad" and you can make yourself stop feeling sad by focusing on things that make you happy or angry, its basically like a control board (like a game) and it only takes a little practice

You can't simply stop caring about other's judgement because you decided to

You literally can and I can bet my life you NEVER REALLY TRIED AT ALL

I've been trying to ignore other people for 10 years, with no success

No you haven't tried at all, you just tell yourself you've tried

You spent 10 years telling yourself not to be sad, not 10 years teaching yourself to control your emotions, those are two completely different things
 
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Phenibut will help. I’ve used it. Take 1-2grams.
 
Good call, ignore the worthless subhumans saying otherwise.
 
They literally are, you can make yourself cry (well at least tear up) at will by bringing up memories or thoughts that you think are "sad" and you can make yourself stop feeling sad by focusing on things that make you happy or angry, its basically like a control board (like a game) and it only takes a little practice

You literally can and I can bet my life you NEVER REALLY TRIED AT ALL

No you haven't tried at all, you just tell yourself you've tried

You spent 10 years telling yourself not to be sad, not 10 years teaching yourself to control your emotions, those are two completely different things
You are telling me that all I need is to change my mindset, but even though I KNOW other people's opinion aren't worth shit for ages, I never stopped caring about it. How does that even work?
Phenibut will help. I’ve used it. Take 1-2grams.
Good call, ignore the worthless subhumans saying otherwise.
Thanks for the contribution to the thread
 
Do you have a driver's license? I am afraid I might have problems driving while under this stuff.

It's weird how you have no problems meeting hookers but get nervous about using a treadmill next to a woman... maybe we have different problems? Since I have a lot of problems with the former but none with the later.

Btw thanks for this informative comment.
Nah, I just take the bus. Don't have a car. Definitely shouldn't drive after phenibut. It feels exactly like being drunk. I don't feel nervous because it just feels so professional. I know that she's paid to treat me well and will treat me well so she can squeeze mroe money out of me. That's if she's a good whore. But IRL foids are disgusted by me and they're not afraid to show it.
 
Nah, I just take the bus. Don't have a car. Definitely shouldn't drive after phenibut. It feels exactly like being drunk. I don't feel nervous because it just feels so professional. I know that she's paid to treat me well and will treat me well so she can squeeze mroe money out of me. That's if she's a good whore. But IRL foids are disgusted by me and they're not afraid to show it.
Shit... this could be a big problem. Maybe I should try going for it tomorrow, even if I feel nervous like a bitch.
If I get phenibut I will try smaller doses, just enough to make me feel less nervous but without fucking up my driving abilities.
 
Shit... this could be a big problem. Maybe I should try going for it tomorrow, even if I feel nervous like a bitch.
If I get phenibut I will try smaller doses, just enough to make me feel less nervous but without fucking up my driving abilities.

You could always get a taxi. But really, there is no reason to be nervous if you go to a whore with good reviews.
 
I was like this too but you're going to have to push yourself to do this bro. I wish I could give you better advice but I can't, other than to force yourself to go. The first time is always slightly difficult.
 
One of the few times I agree with you @BlkPillPres .
How come they are unable to change their view of women? If it was something in a public space with lots of people I would even understand.
But when you are with the whore/escort it's just you and her.

Of course she don't find you attractive and loathes you. You can pay her to spread her legs but love/like is not included.
They seems to both be afraid of judgement and also romanticize the whore.
Unless she is a good actress, and the majority is not, you won't get any feeling that she is "accepting you".

For me, their face of disgust makes it even better when they suck my pp.
Who said I can't "change my view on women"? Where are you taking this from? Women couldn't be lower in my view, especially the ones who would not fuck me even if I paid them. But what does that change? Nothing. Not everything is 100% under your control, and that is not true ONLY to looks, you as a supposed blackpilled incel should know better.
 
For me, their face of disgust makes it even better when they suck my pp.

JFL this, why is it so many men today have all these pathetic faggot fetishes like femdom and "mutual attraction", I get off on dominance, a face of disgust arouses me more, resistance arouses me more, I'd prefer than she not be attracted to me tbh

@watcher
Watch less Brazzers porn and some more JAV porn JFL
You've bitchified your mind with all this consensual shit lol

Like with all other things the mind can be trained to become inclined to various things, I always watched the "rapey" type porn to begin with, so I guess over time that became what I was more inclined towards the more I watched it, you need to RETRAIN YOUR MIND
 
waking up with raging boners,
FFS man you have a good health, don't waste it! Use it while you can. Good erections will become rarer and rarer as you get older.
 
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I was like this too but you're going to have to push yourself to do this bro. I wish I could give you better advice but I can't, other than to force yourself to go. The first time is always slightly difficult.
Do you think it was worth it in the end? Did you manage to eventually start to enjoy it?
 
Nah, I just take the bus. Don't have a car. Definitely shouldn't drive after phenibut. It feels exactly like being drunk. I don't feel nervous because it just feels so professional. I know that she's paid to treat me well and will treat me well so she can squeeze mroe money out of me. That's if she's a good whore. But IRL foids are disgusted by me and they're not afraid to show it.
Should be able to drive on phenibut. I do. It’s like alcohol but without the coordination sides. But don’t if you’re not comfortable with it. Remember, phenibut was originally made for astronauts flying a space ship lol
 
FFS man you have a good health, don't waste it! Use it while you can. Good erections will become rarer and rarer as you get older.
I don't know which fear is greater, to waste my youth and sex drive by never fucking anyone or my fear of being seen as a subhuman by some slut.
 
Another hooker thread. The problem is not her disgust or eagerness to do the act it's more you helping a foid live on tutorial mode. It's also dangerous, some have pimps with baseball bats who will beat the shit out of you if you try to leave without paying, even if you didn't have sex with the whore.
 
JFL this, why is it so many men today have all these pathetic faggot fetishes like femdom and "mutual attraction", I get off on dominance, a face of disgust arouses me more, resistance arouses me more, I'd prefer than she not be attracted to me tbh

@watcher
Watch less Brazzers porn and some more JAV porn JFL
You've bitchified your mind with all this consensual shit lol

Like with all other things the mind can be trained to become inclined to various things, I always watched the "rapey" type porn to begin with, so I guess over time that became what I was more inclined towards the more I watched it, you need to RETRAIN YOUR MIND
The desire for validation goes way beyond sex for me. I desire it when doing all sorts of things.
The old stories of the Knights and Princess falling in love I guess. It's a brainwashing on it's own.

But foids don't want to be princesses anymore, they want to be cum toilets.
I am not even being obnoxious, that is really what they want, to be the cum toilet of as many Chads as possible.
Without regard to others or even their own health and safety.

European foids literally dress like sluts, purposefully, when they know that agressive rapefugee invasors/immigrants are around.
European men respect them and that makes the foids feel disgusted.
Dude, you are misunderstanding things.

I don't want to treat women well, definitely not like a princess. It's their judgement of seeing me as subhuman, pathetic, etc. due to my looks or maybe my ED that makes me hesitant. Can you imagine a man being a savage who doesn't care about her while still having a soft dick and not even being able to penetrate her? Even if he LOOKS and ACTS like a beast, in the end he is just a bitch.
Another hooker thread. The problem is not her disgust or eagerness to do the act it's more you helping a foid live on tutorial mode. It's also dangerous, some have pimps with baseball bats who will beat the shit out of you if you try to leave without paying, even if you didn't have sex with the whore.
I don't plan on leaving without paying lol

And here prostitution is legalized so there is not a pimp problem going on.
 
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Another hooker thread. The problem is not her disgust or eagerness to do the act it's more you helping a foid live on tutorial mode

Would you fuck dozens of women every month that disgust you to make a living and would you call that tutorial mode?

It's also dangerous, some have pimps with baseball bats who will beat the shit out of you if you try to leave without paying

This is one of the most retarded arguments I've seen on this site, I can't believe you said this line over to yourself and you still posted it

This can be applied to anything:
Don't go to grocery stores, if you try to STEAL FROM THEM a security guard will detain you forcefully and call the police on you

Oh my god, I guess I better never go to any grocery stores seeing as NOT STEALING ISN'T AN OPTION

even if you didn't have sex with the whore.

Why would you not have sex with her after paying? (you'd have to be an idiot)
 
Do you think it was worth it in the end? Did you manage to eventually start to enjoy it?

Yeah it's always been worth it for me. I've only been 3 times in the last year, if I had more money then I'd do it more frequently because it is enjoyable
 
Yeah it's always been worth it for me. I've only been 3 times in the last year, if I had more money then I'd do it more frequently because it is enjoyable
I will go tomorrow or maybe thursday, if my dick does not work I will come here and make another thread about how pathetic I am JFL. Wish me luck
 
Just stop being a pussy bro.
 
I will go tomorrow or maybe thursday, if my dick does not work I will come here and make another thread about how pathetic I am JFL. Wish me luck

Good luck bro
 
Just stop being a pussy bro.
Sure, I can't stop myself from caring, but I can make the decision to go there and try it, even if the experience end up being awful.
 
Would you fuck dozens of women every month that disgust you to make a living and would you call that tutorial mode?



This is one of the most retarded arguments I've seen on this site, I can't believe you said this line over to yourself and you still posted it

This can be applied to anything:


Oh my god, I guess I better never go to any grocery stores seeing as NOT STEALING ISN'T AN OPTION



Why would you not have sex with her after paying? (you'd have to be an idiot)

The looksmatches of guys who use whores probably wouldn't disgust me if we adjust for hypergamy. So yes tutorial mode.

If the whore is a different person than who you agreed to see and she refuses certain acts her receptionist said she would do. That's when you want your money back, they claim to be the same person when you ask. It's likely to catch out any new escortcels.

A more accurate analogy would be smelling the food and then putting it back without eating it. Capitals and bold letters don't add any weight to your arguments.
 
The looksmatches of guys who use whores probably wouldn't disgust me if we adjust for hypergamy. So yes tutorial mode.

If the whore is a different person than who you agreed to see and she refuses certain acts her receptionist said she would do. That's when you want your money back, they claim to be the same person when you ask. It's likely to catch out any new escortcels.

A more accurate analogy would be smelling the food and then putting it back without eating it. Capitals and bold letters don't add any weight to your arguments.
You underestimate how disgusted women are at average and below average men. They hate us with a passion. Which is the reason why hookers get so much money, the demand is insane. Most women wouldn't touch an average men even if he paid her really well. Hookers don't consider themselves as people who do an "easy" job, they do a job that nobody else is willing to do, due to disgust and nothing more. and they get paid really well.

Women would rather fuck animals than us, its over my dude. To them, fucking us is like eating shit, some will do it, but only for a really big amount of money.
 
The looksmatches of guys who use whores probably wouldn't disgust me if we adjust for hypergamy. So yes tutorial mode

Yes and eating raw animal flesh and guts doesn't disgust a lion, you are comparing apples to oranges, men and women aren't attracted to the same things, its hardwired for them to be disgusted by the kind of men that have to pay for sex, so your point doesn't stand

You wouldn't fuck women you are disgusted by for money and call it "easy", so you can't say its easy for them because "THEY SHOULD FIND THESE MEN ATTRACTIVE", I agree, they should (in a fair world, but we don't live in a fair world), either way they don't find average men attractive so that's besides the point, just like you don't find raw meat and guts tasty, a lion can't fault you for being human with human tastes

If the whore is a different person than who you agreed to see and she refuses certain acts her receptionist said she would do. That's when you want your money back, they claim to be the same person when you ask. It's likely to catch out any new escortcels.

I'm confused, don't you pay in person, I would only pay in person before we fuck, so I don't even understand where you are coming from here, what kind of idiot would pay for goods he can't see in person, you guys need to stop with this online shit, its very ironic to want to have sex IN REAL LIFE, but you pay for it ONLINE, I won't do any cash app shit, no pay pal crap, only in person and with cash

Also WTF, a receptionist?

You see this is why I hate the term "escortcel" and prefer "hookercel", because people think were wasting our money to fuck actual escorts, which are nothing but over priced whores, I'm talking about actual whores, like brothel whores, not some "high end" bullshit

LISTEN

NEVER FUCK AN ACTUAL ESCORT
(its a waste of money, its for retards with no self awareness who want to pay for a "girl friend experience" and pretend like they are attractive, if you want to be a pathetic fool like that then getting robbed comes with the territory because pathetic men are always seen as prey)

Seriously we need to kill off this "escortcel" term because a lot of guys are getting the wrong idea

A more accurate analogy would be smelling the food and then putting it back without eating it. Capitals and bold letters don't add any weight to your arguments.

I don't know what places you are visiting, just seems like you are coming up with hypotheticals that never happened to you for the sake of an excuse

Capitals and bolds don't add weight, they add emphasis and (make it more noticeable), makes certain key words and phrases hard to miss, the things you want readers to take note of, also good for readers with ADHD lol
 
Yes and eating raw animal flesh and guts doesn't disgust a lion, you are comparing apples to oranges, men and women aren't attracted to the same things, its hardwired for them to be disgusted by the kind of men that have to pay for sex, so your point doesn't stand

You wouldn't fuck women you are disgusted by for money and call it "easy", so you can't say its easy for them because "THEY SHOULD FIND THESE MEN ATTRACTIVE", I agree, they should (in a fair world, but we don't live in a fair world), either way they don't find average men attractive so that's besides the point, just like you don't find raw meat and guts tasty, a lion can't fault you for being human with human tastes



I'm confused, don't you pay in person, I would only pay in person before we fuck, so I don't even understand where you are coming from here, what kind of idiot would pay for goods he can't see in person.

Beta Buxxes are disgusting to their partners. Escorts are making more off their clients than a roastie using a betabux. Most foids are in some way exchanging sex for money or resources with someone that disgusts them unless it's Chad.

How can you mis-read what i said so badly. I said they have receptionists who proclaim to be the hooker herself and agrees to do some services like oral without protection all inclusive. Then when they have your money and its time to fuck she claims not to do it or charges extra for it.

You don't know who else works for these organisations, because sometimes its just not the hooker you deal with it's her entire organisation, pimps, receptionists and sometimes gang members who own the whore.
 
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Beta Buxxes are disgusting to their partners. Escorts are making more off their clients than a roastie using a betabux. Most foids are in some way exchanging sex for money or resources with someone that disgusts them unless it's Chad.

How can you mis-read what i said so badly. I said they have receptionists who proclaim to be the hooker herself and agrees to do some services like oral without protection all inclusive. Then when they have your money and its time to fuck she claims not to do it or charges extra for it.

You don't know who else works for these organisations, because sometimes its just not the hooker you deal with it's her entire organisation, pimps, receptionists and sometimes gang members who own the whore.
You seem to live in a sexual dystopia (maybe you are American?)

In my country whores are mostly independent since prostitution is legal here.
 
How can you mis-read what i said so badly. I said they have receptionists who proclaim to be the hooker herself and agrees to do some services like oral without protection all inclusive

Dude, what kind of fucking whore has a receptionist? :feelskek:

I'm not misrepresenting what you are saying, I am genuinely confused about what you are talking about, you are chasing after ESCORTS NOT WHORES

Whores fuck in person, take cash, and do exactly what you paid for, stop going for "muh high end" bullshit, no regular whore (street or brothel) has a receptionist lol

Then when they have your money and its time to fuck she claims not to do it or charges extra for it

Her pimp wouldn't even let her do that, actual pimps don't try to "game" clients because they want return customers, what you are talking about is male and female that are on some "bonnie and clyde" shit and he is only pretending to be her pimp when they are both out to scam people (they are a couple)

I don't think I'd ever encounter this shit though because I only visit places that are reputable (they are known as good places to go fuck whores)

I'll say it again, you just sound like someone with no experience in this who is dreaming up hypotheticals to make it seem difficult, it really isn't

You don't know who else works for these organisations, because sometimes its just not the hooker you deal with it's her entire organisation, pimps, receptionists and sometimes gang members who own the whore.

Dude no whore has a receptionist, whores are on the streets, pimp - yes, gang member that owns her - yes, receptionist - no

It sounds like you are joking every time you bring up a whore having a receptionist, like she's a celebrity or something, where the hell are you even going to find this shit

Prostitution is a business, you sound like you are just making shit up to "scare guys off" lol, scamming like this wouldn't even last long as "word of mouth" would spread about the whore and her pimp, and it wouldn't be long before another pimp or gangster comes along to kill the other pimp and claim the whore, and actually put her to work

The shit you are talking about is rare, barely happens, and is punished "by the streets", you can't be "gaming johns" and expect to get away with it, it threatens the business of other nearby pimps because very few men will come to the area, so now they have a reason to come after you

Stop making shit up lol, you probably got scammed once because you didn't do enough "vetting" and now you think that's all that happens
 
Dude, what kind of fucking whore has a receptionist? :feelskek:

I'm not misrepresenting what you are saying, I am genuinely confused about what you are talking about, you are chasing after ESCORTS NOT WHORES

Whores fuck in person, take cash, and do exactly what you paid for, stop going for "muh high end" bullshit, no regular whore (street or brothel) has a receptionist lol



Her pimp wouldn't even let her do that, actual pimps don't try to "game" clients because they want return customers, what you are talking about is male and female that are on some "bonnie and clyde" shit and he is only pretending to be her pimp when they are both out to scam people (they are a couple)

I don't think I'd ever encounter this shit though because I only visit places that are reputable (they are known as good places to go fuck whores)

I'll say it again, you just sound like someone with no experience in this who is dreaming up hypotheticals to make it seem difficult, it really isn't



Dude no whore has a receptionist, whores are on the streets, pimp - yes, gang member that owns her - yes, receptionist - no

It sounds like you are joking every time you bring up a whore having a receptionist, like she's a celebrity or something, where the hell are you even going to find this shit

Prostitution is a business, you sound like you are just making shit up to "scare guys off" lol, scamming like this wouldn't even last long as "word of mouth" would spread about the whore and her pimp, and it wouldn't be long before another pimp or gangster comes along to kill the other pimp and claim the whore, and actually put her to work

The shit you are talking about is rare, barely happens, and is punished "by the streets", you can't be "gaming johns" and expect to get away with it, it threatens the business of other nearby pimps because very few men will come to the area, so now they have a reason to come after you

Stop making shit up lol, you probably got scammed once because you didn't do enough "vetting" and now you think that's all that happens

Whores around here don't speak English too well so usually have another whore who been around longer as a receptionist. Yes it happens in my neck of the woods, not hypothetical at all.
 
You clearly want validation. Paid sex with an used whore doesn’t sound attractive to me at all , It’s okay if you don’t do it
 
Whores around here don't speak English too well so usually have another whore who been around longer as a receptionist. Yes it happens in my neck of the woods, not hypothetical at all.

JFL that shit sounds so fancy lol

"Speak to my receptionist and I'll be with you shortly" :feelskek:

Yeah I'd advise you find a better place to fuck

You can google this shit you know, just google "sex tourism <your country> <your area>"

There are usually guides and info from other men who tell you where to go and what is offered where

I was surprised I even found some shit for my country, places I didn't even know about, but I'm not going to escortcel here, I'm going to the phillipines for that, actually I think I'll go thailand, prostitution is more normalized there and the whores learn a bit of english because they get so much sex tourism
 
Are there legit hooker websites where you can search for hookers in your local area? Is there a hooker Facebook? Can someone send me a link if you know of one!?
 
You clearly want validation. Paid sex with an used whore doesn’t sound attractive to me at all , It’s okay if you don’t do it
I also want to play with some slut's body.

Shit I wish I could buy a realistic sexdoll...
Are there legit hooker websites where you can search for hookers in your local area? Is there a hooker Facebook? Can someone send me a link if you know of one!?
There are hooker catalogs, hooker forums, all sort of shit... you just have to look for it.
 
I am on day 34 of nofap, waking up with raging boners, getting distracted with pics and videos of women when I am surfing the web (I don't watch porn) but I am still too scared of judgement.

I will wait until I have phenibut, have any of you guys tried this shit? I just can't do it sober, not after my awful previous experience.

I keep telling myself over and over in my head to ignore her judgement and just fuck her body, but I can't, this is just too deep rooted into my mind. The only way I could fuck a woman right now is if she was attracted to me.
Weedmax is a good option. :smonk:. Many escorts are getting used to do it.
 
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