[Serious] I will (probably) be debating Destiny (and some others)

BrendioEEE

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In a few days I am going to a Mens Conference, hosted by Jesse Lee Peterson, and I am going to be on a panel with, Jesse Lee Peterson (as moderator) Other Panelists: Will Witt, Brandon Tatum, Steven Bonnell, AKA Destiny, Jacob Wohl, and Kelvin J, and of course myself. It is the 10th Annual Conference, and judging from the information, this may turn into quite a serious debate on various different subjects.

I of course, whether you like me or not, am going as The Representative for Incels. Now for those of you who don't know, I have done debates in the past, and i'm sure those of who are familiar with said debates, know that I am quite well spoken and well versed on many Blackpills and various different biological, psychological, and sociological differences between men and women, however I am not perfect, which is why I am making this post.

I am probably going to be the odd one out on this panel/debate. Now this panel is going to be primarily about Mens issues and Plights, and this of course is my specialty, and i'm sure many of yours aswell, and for any of you who know how Destiny debates, you know he's probably the biggest threat on this panel, any fact or blackpill I bring up will probably be heavily challenged by him, extremely, which is why I have a secret weapon, altho not so secret anymore, but it doesn't need to be, because as cringe as this may sound, you can't lose if you have facts on your side, which we do.

I present to you
The Blackpill Book
121413

While it may not immediately seem intimidating, what's scary about it, is what is on the inside. Filled to the brim with Blackpills, and studies, and Chadfish experiments, Neurological Data, Biological Data, Sociological Data, Tinder Experiments, etc, etc. Every source, and citation, to BTFO any cuck no matter how popular, or prepared they are, but this where you come in, and hopefully I don't have to use this book at all, this weapon of Blackpilled Knowledge, still needs some work, it's definitely not complete, in the slightest.

So, and you can take this as the TL;DR What Blackpills, data, sources, gender differences, study, experiment, any Incel related factoid, blackpill, or truth, that you would like me add to this book? Also anything against the evil man i'm going up against is fine aswell, nothing illegitimate, he is known to use quite a lot of logical and insults to avoid arguments, but that'll work in my favor, trust me, and there is a lot of stuff against this Nasty Guy, some of which i'm sure you guys might know more than me.
 
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Don't sperg out lmao.
 
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Don't debate Destiny, it's a complete waste of time and he always argues dishonestly.
In particular he's really dismissive to incels as shown by the last incel who tried to debate him, he won't argue and will just act disinterested the entire time without bothering with any of your points.
 
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Good luck on the debate, although i think it's poinless, cause i don't think you can convice those normies about the blackpill, they will just dismiss and insult you.
 
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Debating Who?
Never heard of her.


Also OP, will your face be on camera? If so prepare to be the next incel saint or be branded a fakecel.
 
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although i think it's poinless, cause i don't think you can convice those normies about the blackpill, they will just dismiss and insult you.
You can't even get them to be intellectually honest, much less be convinced that the blackpill is true.
 
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Debating Who?
Never heard of her.


Also OP, will your face be on camera? If so prepare to be the next incel saint or be branded a fakecel.
He already gets branded as a fakecel.
 
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Dang I wish I could debate people. I'd fucking nuke everyone with the racepill and many others within my belt
 
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Good luck. I hate that asshole Destiny. He made Jon Tron look bad, not to mention he was smearing Andy Warski,Blair White, Hunter Avallone and many other youtubers AND he was advocating for pedophilia on some occasions. Seriously man good fucking luck.
 
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GL. I don't know who Destiny is but I'll look into it later (maybe)
 
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Destiny seems reductive and squirmy in the things that he says, granted, I just saw a few minutes of him talking to an incel while he is playing a videogame, could be that he just wasn't focused on the conversation. Be sure to go through the blackpill archive thread if for some reason you haven't. This could come in handy if the topic of social isolation comes up, many animals change for the "worse" due to social isolation, same can be said for humans. Also, I'd suggest watching your previous 2 podcasts to see what you did good and what you did wrong so you can adjust your upcoming show accordingly. Good luck tbh.
 
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I used to enjoy watching his Starcraft 2 twitch streams. But then he turned into a huge cuck for some reason
 
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What is this conference about? Men ain't gon' rise up against the "White Guys Are Evil" rhetoric if we're at war with each other.
 
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you're not debating foids this time so i hope it goes for the better
 
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Good luck bro, stay calm and maintain your composure. Every one of incel views can be backed up with scientific studies
 
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Good luck on the debate, although i think it's poinless, cause i don't think you can convice those normies about the blackpill, they will just dismiss and insult you.
yeah they will just go "sex is not important bro just be nice lol" then you will say: okay heres why thats wrong then they will be like "lol ur an incel who cant have sex kys :soy:"
 
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googled that fag
Destiny Fedora icon.png (powername: Steven Kenneth Bonnell II) is a pedophilic Internet Tough Guy that loves incest but has a dick (and a body) that’s shorter than his baby daughter. He streams himself playing video games while debating with retards on “ethics” and “morals”. It’s either political/Trump talk or shit no one cares about. Despite him always fighting retards, he looks like the dumber one each time because he’s an awful debater. 30 minutes into the stream, he spergs at every different opinion from his without evidence or a compelling argument. Don’t point this out though because he’ll DMCA you like a pussy.
FUCKING LOL
 
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failo effect. our representative should be a giga chad. that's the only way we'd ever get any progress done. no one gives a shit what comes out of the mouth of an ugly loser autist. no matter how true.
 
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KEK :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:debating anybody in 2019 about lookism and human nature and actually succeeding.
 
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Guys a retard who will badger you with irrelevant hypothetical questions throughout the whole debate which are designed to frame you as morally unjust no matter how you decide to answer. He doesn't debate off of actual knowledge so as long as you don't play his shitty games he's pretty much useless. You better not sperg out.
 
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So this is like a incels vs cucks debate? The blackpill is pure facts, you cant possibly lose
 
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Nice bro. Knock em dead. This one's super powerful.

Summarizes the broken dating economy perfectly.
 
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Good luck bro. I’ve only seen his debate with Jontron tbh.

Do better than him and you’ll destroy that cuck.
 
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Last time I heard of the twitch Destiny was with that Avilo (Starcraft 2 streamer) debacle, wonder if its the same guy.
 
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I'm curious what's you're strategy going in? You're in for a tough ride, he made even Undead Chronic look like an idiot (at least to normies). I know you're an altrightcel, but I'm just saying if he backs you in a corner drop the fucking racepill. That's your ticket out. There's no way he can, especially as a leftist, refute that one.
 
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Here are some of the topics that will be discussed aswell, obviously not mentioning some of the obvious in the OP, but yeah

Topics: Rebuilding men, Do’s & don’ts when dating, What do millennials wants? Free speech vs. censorship; 2020 election predictions

I know some of these topics are somewhat related to Inceldom, but considering I am there as an Incel representative I am still interested on what you think of these topics. When I see the, "Do’s & don’ts when dating" topic, I immediately snarkily think, "Don't live in a bad area, don't be ugly, don't be short, don't be poor JFL" but obviously I will be much more professional.

I could also shift that topic around to why (((Dating))) in the first place, is terrible, and a more traditional way of matchmaking such as, parents arranging a Marriage early on in your life would be much more beneficial and better.
 
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This is going to be turbo cringe
 
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You can try it, but I would not try and frame arguments from a JQ point-of-view, it will just make you look ridiculous to normies, and it's 99% likely he will destroy you once you go down that rabbit hole. You need to debunk the whole "just fix your personality, bro" argument. Bring up issues of autism vs NT. Argue that online is the most predominant way to date in #MeToo- from that you can pivot to hard data obtained from online dating. Also try very hard not to sound entitiled, if I were a cuck, that's my Jon Jones knee kick in this debate.
 
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I could also shift that topic around to why (((Dating))) in the first place, in the first place is terrible, and a more traditional such as, parents arranging a Marriage early on in your life would be much more beneficial and better.
That's a more winning strategy. You can argue that women who have higher partner counts lead to more divorces and unstable relationships. How unstable relationships lead to unstable children. eg. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4085758/Experts-reveal-sexual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html

You can explain that the traditional contract between men and women was always that men would provide for a woman and commit to her in exchange for a sexual relationship, and this was mutually beneficial. Women got committed men who invested in them from their youth and would care deeply for them. Men got women who would not abandon them the minute things got rough or she could trade up.

Now, we have a situation where 29% of men are sexless: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?noredirect=on

Women are all messaging the top 10% of men online as per the Hinge study posted above. And then these women are unhappy because they can't figure out why these men they're all trying to share aren't committing. Women are aging past their reproductive years without men then desperately trying to freeze eggs or get IVF.

Half of marriages end in divorce. 69% of divorces are initiated by women. https://www.divorcemag.com/blog/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/

No one is winning except perhaps the top 10% of men who get all the attention and have all the options and choices.

It's a clear and total degeneration of our human condition and gender relationships.

This is a winning argument because Jesse will agree with it 100% and appreciate you for saying it while most people won't. This was the type of argument he found persuasive in your prior interview with him and it will work again. It sums up the incel problem while fitting it into a greater social context so no one can say, "All this loser cares about is sex."

Hit this approach and you'll knock it out of the park.
 
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Based. Let it rip on 'em, Brendio. Good luck.
 
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failo effect. our representative should be a giga chad. that's the only way we'd ever get any progress done. no one gives a shit what comes out of the mouth of an ugly loser autist. no matter how true.
Not to Chad worship, but that Chadrodriguezcel that was also on JLP would be a good rep. I don't know how he'd fare against Destiny, but he schooled those thots.
 
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dont let us down man obliterate those sjw's
 
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That's a more winning strategy. You can argue that women who have higher partner counts lead to more divorces and unstable relationships. How unstable relationships lead to unstable children. eg. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4085758/Experts-reveal-sexual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html

You can explain that the traditional contract between men and women was always that men would provide for a woman and commit to her in exchange for a sexual relationship, and this was mutually beneficial. Women got committed men who invested in them from their youth and would care deeply for them. Men got women who would not abandon them the minute things got rough or she could trade up.

Now, we have a situation where 29% of men are sexless: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?noredirect=on

Women are all messaging the top 10% of men online as per the Hinge study posted above. And then these women are unhappy because they can't figure out why these men they're all trying to share aren't committing. Women are aging past their reproductive years without men then desperately trying to freeze eggs or get IVF.

Half of marriages end in divorce. 69% of divorces are initiated by women. https://www.divorcemag.com/blog/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/

No one is winning except perhaps the top 10% of men who get all the attention and have all the options and choices.

It's a clear and total degeneration of our human condition and gender relationships.

This is a winning argument because Jesse will agree with it 100% and appreciate you for saying it while most people won't. This was the type of argument he found persuasive in your prior interview with him and it will work again. It sums up the incel problem while fitting it into a greater social context so no one can say, "All this loser cares about is sex."

Hit this approach and you'll knock it out of the park.

Better way. Put Destiny's best pics of twitte along with his height. Get no matches. Ask him why he's incel.
 
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Better way. Put Destiny's best pics of twitte along with his height. Get no matches. Ask him why he's incel.
Perhaps @NeetSupremacist can make a Tinder experiment on his YouTube channel to illustrate this point?
 
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Any links to a Destiny highlight reel? Who is he?
 
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Even though I've had my difference of opinion with Op @BrendioEEE in the past all I'm going to say is this time round. Good Luck & Knock them for 6.
 
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Good luck i enjoy debates
 
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Jesse Lee Peterson has the IQ of a rock. This might go badly..
 
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I could also shift that topic around to why (((Dating))) in the first place, is terrible, and a more traditional way of matchmaking such as, parents arranging a Marriage early on in your life would be much more beneficial and better.
I think that's a bad idea since that shows the audience that you are frustrated with your situation hence emotional about the topic at hand and you'll then be dismissed, you'd seem thirsty and give all the blame to women. You have to act like you don't care about it and as if you just objectively argue in favor of it. The thing is, what are you trying to get out of this situation. If you wanna appeal to the audience, then plenty of anecdotes, followed up by your facts when being dismissed by the other debaters, should do the "trick" (I would say that the majority of JLP viewers are on the "lower IQ" side and are strongly biased towards anti SJW which should give you an edge). If you wanna actually win the debate then your fact book comes in handy. Just be careful to not stray out of line (try to formulate the blackpill ideas in a subtle way) and don't get swirled in by Destiny's disingenuous and extreme mental exercises. Make sure that you read your sources correctly. Destiny is only good in debates because he mastered the ART OF DEBATING (He will try to make you look the worst way possible with the help of his examples), not because he is that intelligent omniscient being. But i don't see a way for him to dismiss actual credible sources except when he twists them into something that misses very important details like he does with his examples.
You should probably also not once use the word "incel".
 
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failo effect. our representative should be a giga chad. that's the only way we'd ever get any progress done. no one gives a shit what comes out of the mouth of an ugly loser autist. no matter how true.
this, an incel representative will not be taken seriously :feelsrope:. OP, I advise you to wear a mask.
 
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try losing a little weight and to not overextend during the debate, people are going to try to attack you on looks, and bait you into saying something indefensible. you should be prepared for both.
 
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Jfl at debating as an incel. They will put words in your mouth and try to frame you
 
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You can try it, but I would not try and frame arguments from a JQ point-of-view, it will just make you look ridiculous to normies, and it's 99% likely he will destroy you once you go down that rabbit hole. You need to debunk the whole "just fix your personality, bro" argument. Bring up issues of autism vs NT. Argue that online is the most predominant way to date in #MeToo- from that you can pivot to hard data obtained from online dating. Also try very hard not to sound entitiled, if I were a cuck, that's my Jon Jones knee kick in this debate.
^This^
Destiny is a smart man and an excellent debater. If you don't have credible data on any of your claims he'll point it out and make you look like a retard.
Tbh I can't see it going very well, since inceldom as a large-scale phenomenon is still in its emerging phase. There aren't a lot of studies done yet, aside from dating app data.
If I were you, I'd assume a defensive position. Don't rush forward with your own claims, instead try to rebuke any bluepilled bullshit that you know you have tools dismantle.
Good luck
 
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Not a highlight reel, but this is one of the most popular debates he was in
You seriously just linked me a 4 hour long debate between a bunch of leftists and a cuck?
 
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They're just going to say you're a fat faggot that doesn't work on himself. If you say height matters than normies automatically think that you mean that it's everything and that if you're short you can't get laid. You have to bring up facial attractiveness and that if you're short but have an attractive face you can still get laid. Bring up the studies about how even babies prefer to look at attractive faces.
 
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They're just going to say you're a fat faggot that doesn't work on himself. If you say height matters than normies automatically think that you mean that it's everything and that if you're short you can't get laid. You have to bring up facial attractiveness and that if you're short but have an attractive face you can still get laid. Bring up the studies about how even babies prefer to look at attractive faces.
Flawed study, TBH. Babies love me, but here I am.
 
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Don't debate Destiny, it's a complete waste of time and he always argues dishonestly.
In particular he's really dismissive to incels as shown by the last incel who tried to debate him, he won't argue and will just act disinterested the entire time without bothering with any of your points.
Thats really rude and annoying tbh, i cant stand douchebags.
 
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