Serious If you listen to Tai Lopez, Grant Cardone, or similar dudes you are coping hard

[Deleted member 18193]

These people are making a living out of selling you pipe dream ideas that you can moneymaxx fast, not solid advice that is applicable for everyone in the real world. Everything that these guys say should already be common sense, but apparently it isn't for a lot of you. They never show you their actual business, they're only there to sell you their shit guides. How is this not obvious to more people.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

They are the pick up artists of the financial world.

 

[Animecel2D]

This is the first time I’ve heard of them tbh

 

[kinggGoblin]

this is the self improvement industry in general. just remember that their success relies on your failure and unhappiness

 

[I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss]

Literally who

 

[Deleted member 18193]

This is the first time I’ve heard of them tbh

Don't fall for it. They will try to tell you it's ONLY your mindset that is preventing you from becoming rich which is ironically the same idea of the bluepilled delusion with PUA.

 

[Erenious]

Legit.

 

[Deleted member 18193]

Tim Sykes is another one, that dude is the worst liar ever.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

They are the pick up artists of the financial world.

that's absolutely on point

 

[Deleted member 27204]

They are the pick up artists of the financial world.

Tbh PUA is just another get rich quick scam only applied in the context of dating and relationships.

this is the self improvement industry in general. just remember that their success relies on your failure and unhappiness

The fact that the self improvement industry and fitness industry are so popular among men today is not a good thing. Non chad males are torturing themselves trying to keep up with women's rising standards.

Don't fall for it. They will try to tell you it's ONLY your mindset that is preventing you from becoming rich which is ironically the same idea of the bluepilled delusion with PUA.

High IQ.
Fake it till you make it is one of the biggest copes.

 

[Cowcel]

Haven't heard of these people before

 

[based_meme]

They are the pick up artists of the financial world.

This is a quote that should reverberate across forums everywhere.

High IQ analogy.

 

[Irredeemable]

Never heard of them, it's probably best that way.

 

[BlkPillPres]

they're only there to sell you their shit guides. How is this not obvious to more people.

That's why you just download their shit for free and test it out JFL

 

[PPEcel]

They are the pick up artists of the financial world.

They are. Telling a wagie with no degree who earns $25k a year that he'll be able to live in a mansion is the financial equivalent of telling a 5'2 balding Indian janitor that he'll be able to slay Stacy models.

 

[LooksAreLife]

This is the first time I’ve heard of them tbh

 

[BlkPillPres]

They will try to tell you it's ONLY your mindset that is preventing you from becoming rich

You clearly haven't seen any of their content (well I can only say for Tai Lopez, never heard of the other guy), his courses include details and strategies for affiliate marketing, online businesses, etc, you can just skip all the motivational BS he slathers on to make people feel special and use the actual information

 

[nihility]

Literally who

 

[Deleted member 24081]

Here in my garage just bought this new foid.

 

[AnonAutist]

Selling overpriced courses on how to get rich is one of the oldest grifts and cons in the liberal world. Once the idea of social mobility became a possibility, not very likely one, con men have been selling suckers on get-rich-quick schemes. Literally nothing changed in a 100 years, only the money making schemes marketed slightly changed, although real estate speculation seems an evergreen.




30 years ago these scammers used late night infomercials to lure suckers in their con funnels via the exact same process:

Aspirational advertising with a theme (day trading, real estate speculation, affiliate sales) -> get gullible suckers to free seminar where you upsell them to paid seminar -> exploit the gullible buyers until they are broke -> dump suckers and defame and shame them into silence.






Imagine early 90s Tom Vu on YT today. Not hard really, he's the proto Dan Lok.

 

[Blackpill Rage]

LMAO those guys are worse scammers than PUA.

 

[The Abyss]

Here in my garage with a shelf full of books, oh look it's my leased Lambos & escorts I paid to pose with me, you too can have all this.

 

[ChinaCurry]

I think people like grant cardone, Robert kiosaki, if u look at what they do, not what they say, they make sense.

The shit they say is selling a pipedream to low iq normies, who are too dumb to see obvious shit, so ignore that if you are high IQ, and if u are low iq also ignore it because it destined to be a low iq npc forever so just stick to your copes

 

[Caesercel]

Who even are these

 

[mylifeistrash]

These people are making a living out of selling you pipe dream ideas that you can moneymaxx fast, not solid advice that is applicable for everyone in the real world. Everything that these guys say should already be common sense, but apparently it isn't for a lot of you. They never show you their actual business, they're only there to sell you their shit guides. How is this not obvious to more people.

all gurus and mentors are scammers

it takes 5+ years to get good at investing and trading, sometimes 10 or 20

there's no such thing as fast moneymaxxing. you'll end up making stupid trucking decisions and pissing your money away until you recognize all the pitfalls.

 

[Deleted member 27495]

i listened to steven dux for awhile but literally lost all my motivation to bother learning trade

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Im just glad that I don’t know any of them

This is the first time I’ve heard of them tbh

Selling overpriced courses on how to get rich is one of the oldest grifts and cons in the liberal world. Once the idea of social mobility became a possibility, not very likely one, con men have been selling suckers on get-rich-quick schemes. Literally nothing changed in a 100 years, only the money making schemes marketed slightly changed, although real estate speculation seems an evergreen.

After all, everything is for sale.

I think people like grant cardone, Robert kiosaki, if u look at what they do, not what they say, they make sense.

The shit they say is selling a pipedream to low iq normies, who are too dumb to see obvious shit, so ignore that if you are high IQ, and if u are low iq also ignore it because it destined to be a low iq npc forever so just stick to your copes

Tbh

 

[Deleted member 18193]

Selling overpriced courses on how to get rich is one of the oldest grifts and cons in the liberal world. Once the idea of social mobility became a possibility, not very likely one, con men have been selling suckers on get-rich-quick schemes. Literally nothing changed in a 100 years, only the money making schemes marketed slightly changed, although real estate speculation seems an evergreen.




30 years ago these scammers used late night infomercials to lure suckers in their con funnels via the exact same process:

Aspirational advertising with a theme (day trading, real estate speculation, affiliate sales) -> get gullible suckers to free seminar where you upsell them to paid seminar -> exploit the gullible buyers until they are broke -> dump suckers and defame and shame them into silence.






Imagine early 90s Tom Vu on YT today. Not hard really, he's the proto Dan Lok.

There are even people who think they themselves can copy these guys and sell courses like them, and it almost always end up failing badly because even the scammers got lucky. Take a look at Tai Lopez's history of how he created a fraudulent dating website and is also an excon. People who don't immediately realize these scammers are frauds are in for a rude awakening. It's ridiculous.

You clearly haven't seen any of their content (well I can only say for Tai Lopez, never heard of the other guy), his courses include details and strategies for affiliate marketing, online businesses, etc, you can just skip all the motivational BS he slathers on to make people feel special and use the actual information

Yes I have. Anyone with half a brain could pirate his content. It's the same rehashed crap he is saying on his videos/calls. It's all a massive cope. You could get better information taking a few marketing courses at your local cc.

All the motivational stuff he says should already be common sense to the average 16 year old.

Three things:
1.You already have to have a lot of money to make money in real estate or stocks. If you don't already have money you're SOL. Trading is even worse. New traders are almost guaranteed to lose money and even with risk management most of them won't even be able to break even.
2.He doesn't give any workable advice (how to analytically examine markets, how to web search trends and niches) instead he just teaches you what you could get taking a marketing 101 at a community college.
3.You have to be very lucky to find a niche that is profitable even after you work hard/smart for years to find it

The problem with him is that he doesn't immediately admit that it takes decades to fully moneymaxx, instead he uses sleazy tactics to appeal to the masses of young, wannabe, naive entrepreneurs.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You could get better information taking a few marketing courses at your local cc

Not really, when it comes to making money online its SPECIFICS that matter not knowledge, and people already making money online who make courses, give you THE SPECIFICS

Where to post ads, how to structure them, where to get copyright free content to reuse, key words to use that help convince people to make a sale, etc

You won't get that shit in community college, or any educational institution for that matter, they are too busy feeding you pointless cookie cutter entry level information in bulk

Here's the thing, you can waste your time learning everything there is to know about trading and after YEARS of time then begin trading, or you can get information from a course about a specific trading strategy with clear cut rules defined and start making money immediately, which makes more sense to you?

I know what makes more sense to me

So these people do actually offer something of value, the ability to skip straight to the point and get what you actually want, a clear cut guide of WHAT TO DO, education institutions are trying to teach you WHAT TO KNOW IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO

In other words, they are just wasting your time

 

[Deleted member 18193]

Here's the thing, you can waste your time learning everything there is to know about trading and after YEARS of time then begin trading, or you can get information from a course about a specific trading strategy with clear cut rules defined and start making money immediately, which makes more sense to you?

I know what makes more sense to me

So these people do actually offer something of value, the ability to skip straight to the point and get what you actually want, a clear cut guide of WHAT TO DO, education institutions are trying to teach you WHAT TO KNOW IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO

In other words, they are just wasting your time

Yes that makes sense, but in the world of trading, there is no such thing as a perfect trading strategy. Anyone who tells you that there is is lying to you. You can't just resolve the market with trendlines, candlesticks, indicators because the market is a lot more chaotic and unpredictable than it seems. Even economists, computer scientists, etc admit there is no way to create a working model that is able to predict the market. It's better if you invest in something like an S&P500 index fund and wait to get a long term ROI.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Yes that makes sense, but in the world of trading, there is no such thing as a perfect trading strategy. Anyone who tells you that there is is lying to you

That's why a lot of these courses have multiple strategies to be applied at different market conditions, I've tested a lot of it on demo accounts, it works

It's better if you invest in something like an S&P500 index fund and wait to get a long term ROI.

Better in what way?

It really depends on what you want from life

Its better if you want financial STABILITY, its not better if you want financial FREEDOM

Those are two completely diferent things, I don't care about stability, I want to "get rich" not "get by"

Stability is only beneficial to a man trapped in a life of obligations, a wife to care for, children to raise, mortgages to pay, etc

To a single man it just makes more sense to aim for the top, especially a man who plans to remain single and live a bachelor life

For me its a matter of life and death, that's really how I see it I'm not exaggerating, I have no problem just killing myself if I realize that I will never "make it", I have no attachments to my current life at all, the only thing I'm holding onto is a future, the moment I give up on that its curtains for me

 

[Deleted member 18193]

Better in what way?

It really depends on what you want from life

Its better if you want financial STABILITY, its not better if you want financial FREEDOM

Those are two completely diferent things, I don't care about stability, I want to "get rich" not "get by"

Stability is only beneficial to a man trapped in a life of obligations, a wife to care for, children to raise, mortgages to pay, etc

To a single man it just makes more sense to aim for the top, especially a man who plans to remain single and live a bachelor life

For me its a matter of life and death, that's really how I see it I'm not exaggerating, I have no problem just killing myself if I realize that I will never "make it", I have no attachments to my current life at all, the only thing I'm holding onto is a future, the moment I give up on that its curtains for me

"Better" in the sense that you more likely to receive a consistent return in the long run rather than the average trader who takes tremendous amounts of risk and is likely to quit after several years of only breaking even. You can only say a strategy works if you have tested it over several years in long term bull and bear markets.

That being said, if you are fine with the risk and accept it, then more power to you.

 

[BlkPillPres]

"Better" in the sense that you more likely to receive a consistent return in the long run rather than the average trader

Yeah like I said, financial stability, but stability is only really a positive if you are content with the life of an average person, and we don't even have that as incels

Whats the point of financial stability and making meager profits just to exist for decades as a sexless depressed loser

I couldn't do it lol

That being said, if you are fine with the risk and accept it, then more power to you.

For me the true risk is to not take this risk, because I'd be resigning myself to death, I could not stand to live as just another pleb struggling to get by everyday, paycheck to paycheck, I wouldn't even call that living, its more like existing

But its not like forex is the only thing to do, there's shoppify, affiliate marketing, app development, etc, there's a lot of stuff you can do, and as incels all we have is free time, we have no life, its really a waste to not try something

 

[FlamingCel]

They are the pick up artists of the financial world.