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Serious I'm falling again into deep depression. There's no way therapy could be useful to me.

Jerek

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I forgot what's the average age of this forum, but i guess it's around 22-23, maybe lower. Being in my 30's i'm probably older than the most of you. One could think that when you get older something changes but, for me, it doesn't. My life is basically filled with low-key depression since i was 10 and there are bursts of this depression worsening and it's not due to complicated reasons, but to the fact i'm exposed to various things that reminds me i'm ugly and my dick is average. Dunno, a video where chad goes outside and women are attracted to him. Or amateur porn.

So, for my entire life i've been suggested to go into therapy and, when i was younger, i tried it many times. First problem is that 90% of psychologists is made up by women, and most of them are good looking. I remember when i was around 20, my mother tried to suggest this woman to me, she was around 30 and frigging hot. Imagine being sexually frustrated and going to some hot woman, paying them to have her "listen" to you and, after work, she gets some chad's cum on her pretty face.

Rest of them are beta males which are in denial and trust me, there's no way they will be useful in any way. I've tried with a male psychologist but this guy was old, in his 60's, and all he could say is that "you should accept that some people could find you attractive, for example i consider you a good looking young man". For this guy i should have felt happy that a fucking old man is thinking i could be attractive. DUMB FUCK, I NEED GIRLS TO FIND ME ATTRACTIVE, NOT YOU. And when i talked him about sex and about the fact women are sexually satisfied with superior men, he was all "there's not only sex in a relationship but you can walk her in the park" and shit like that.

Maybe a chad psychologist (or a non chad with a based minsed) would be more based but he would simply say "you have to accept what you are", and if you can't, a conversation wouldn't change it.

Once again, i don't envy cucks or deluded normies because i know they're not happy inside, but it feels like i lack that veil of blissful ignorance which allows normal/below average people to live relatively peacefully, and i lack it since i was VERY young. There's no way i can forget that, even in the scenario a girl would be with me, she'd probably crave someone better but she'd settle with me because reasons.

It's fucking horrible, and this shit will haunt me until i get old. I'm even too chickenshit to rope because i'm afraid of the pain.

I doubt chad can be depressed. There are probably exceptions, but when you're an attractive male with a big dick the problem in your life can be just external (but that can happen to us, too).

Every time i go to bed, lately, i always have the same fantasy: an easy and painless way to kill yourself is created and made available to everyone. I fall asleep thinking about that and how many people would adopt this solution.
 
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Therapy is shit. You need to put your time into wealthmaxxing.
 
Find a based male psychoanalyst. They don't resort to banal techniques that don't make you think.

Accepting who you are isn't as simple as you make it out to be. That's essentially what the analysis is for.
 
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What you SHOULD try are antidepressants (SSRIs)
Trust me a lot of people think they are just trash Jew pills or that the side effects are crazy but that's just not true, SSRIs are fucking based, for real.
You should go to a psychiatrist and ask him what medication is best for you, you wont regret it mans. :feelsthink: :feelsLSD:
 
Find a based male psychoanalyst. They don't resort to banal techniques that don't make you think.

Even if this was possible, how can he convince you that, even if you manage to get a GF, she wouldn't think about chad with big dick? Could you imagine going for a walk with your girl and she gliplses at good looking guys? I can't even think about how sex could be: when i escortcel i realize that even i'f i'm average (around 6" or 15cm) and with a decent girth, i feel it's too small to do various things and it's like i don't "fill" her.

The only thing that could change my life is that i go outside, i notice many women looking at me and, if i had sex with one of them, she would he happy and she would seek me in order to have sex with me again without strings attached. But this is just chad scenario.

I also can't forget when i've tried chadfishing, that was another high blow to my self-esteem. You should NEVER do that, especially if you use a good amateur picture (women won't fall for some model, but if the pic is amateurish you can get hundreds of matches in few hours).
What you SHOULD try are antidepressants (SSRIs)
Trust me a lot of people think they are just trash Jew pills or that the side effects are crazy but that's just not true, SSRIs are fucking based, for real.
You should go to a psychiatrist and ask him what medication is best for you, you wont regret it mans. :feelsthink: :feelsLSD:

Already tried that in one of my deep depression periods. I remember that i was kinda numb. I didn't have much sexual drive but in the few moments i had it i was sad because i don't think i could have performed (with an escort, mind you). I prefer when i'm normal, but if i'm exposed to too much shit there's this risk.
 
Convincing you of anything isn't what psychoanalysis is about. A good therapist never tells you what to think.
 
Convincing you of anything isn't what psychoanalysis is about. A good therapist never tells you what to think.

Could you explain me how i can cope with the fact women will never be really attracted to me? Not being sarcastic, i crave a decent explanation.
 
I try to limit things that depress me. Thats why i watch 0 tv, listen to 0 music, go outside rarely.

Imo what incels like us have to do is get a hobby/quest we are working on. Actually get a couple of them that we spend some time on each, so we don't lose passion.

For example last year i've been working on moneymaxxing on the stock market. So I spend quite a bit of time reading on forums and looking up annual reports and so on. Even then normie ads on the websites can make me depressed.

Chemistry, math, physics, computer programming, art, gardening, botany & zoology.. those are good ones.

Basically any subject where you can use your incel tier mind, and it is on an abstract subject.

Also sleeping a lot if you feel like it.

I'm not saying this will cure you, only if you can get your mind working on those things, each hour you are doing those you are not looking at something to depress you.. or listening.
 
I was thinking exactly about something like this, but it does really limit a lot of your activities. There's a level of obsession in which basically anything that involves a female and attractive males could remind you, with various level of seriousness, the fact you're not attractive.

It's too late for me to learn to fully detatch yourself from this shit. I even have good looking female coworkers and good looking male coworkers. Due to coronavirus i'm lucky enough to not have to face them but even that was painful.
 
Could you explain me how i can cope with the fact women will never be really attracted to me? Not being sarcastic, i crave a decent explanation.
We're told by society that the only important thing in life is being accepted by mindless foids. This need for foidal acceptance keeps most men slaves. Fuck the foids; they're totally empty. Fretting about them will only waste your time and ruin your life. Your life is more than foids.

I revel in not being attractive to foids. I don't care. They have no power over me.
 
We're told by society that the only important thing in life is being accepted by mindless foids. This need for foidal acceptance keeps most men slaves. Fuck the foids; they're totally empty. Fretting about them will only waste your time and ruin your life. Your life is more than foids.

I revel in not being attractive to foids. I don't care. They have no power over me.

This is nonsensical, i don't give a fuck about society. I want to fuck hot women because it's good and i find that with escorts it's not the same. I crave the full experience, dunno, going to a club and having a foid sucking me. Being desired by a woman.
 
Yeah, you clearly do, which is why you want to be desired rather than just fuck. You, like everyone else, desire symbols rather than mere sensations.

But whatever, feel free to continue playing the role of a boohooing edgelord until you croak.
 
Can't spell therapist without the rapist.
 
I try to limit things that depress me. Thats why i watch 0 tv, listen to 0 music, go outside rarely.

Imo what incels like us have to do is get a hobby/quest we are working on. Actually get a couple of them that we spend some time on each, so we don't lose passion.

For example last year i've been working on moneymaxxing on the stock market. So I spend quite a bit of time reading on forums and looking up annual reports and so on. Even then normie ads on the websites can make me depressed.

Chemistry, math, physics, computer programming, art, gardening, botany & zoology.. those are good ones.

Basically any subject where you can use your incel tier mind, and it is on an abstract subject.

Also sleeping a lot if you feel like it.

I'm not saying this will cure you, only if you can get your mind working on those things, each hour you are doing those you are not looking at something to depress you.. or listening.
THIS TBH
 
Yeah, you clearly do, which is why you want to be desired rather than just fuck. You, like everyone else, desire symbols rather than mere sensations.

But whatever, feel free to continue playing the role of a boohooing edgelord until you croak.

Being desided leads to a way more good sex than just paying an escort. Imagine going for a walk and noticing many teens watching to you and being able to fuck them at your will. It's a way different thing that paying money to have a fuck session with restriction and where's the woman has no interest about you aside from your money.

Society has nothing to do with this, it's just that i can't satisfy my sex drive for free. Blaming society is some nonsense that a teen would do.

Yes, but it's not feasible in the long term. I have a friend (he's in his 30's too) that managed to do that since childhood but he's basically detached from this world and jobless.
 
jfl my mom wants me to go to therapy too nowadays
I told her im willing to go to therapy again but only if the the rapist is male
 
Therapy is designed for women ans people who don't have problems

I think it's designed for people that have TEMPORARY problems. There's no therapy for your face, or accepting the fact you'll never be attractive.

My point is that there's a whole world of average people able to live normally but i don't know how they do that. Maybe it's because they are average and not ugly.
 
Being desided leads to a way more good sex than just paying an escort. Imagine going for a walk and noticing many teens watching to you and being able to fuck them at your will. It's a way different thing that paying money to have a fuck session with restriction and where's the woman has no interest about you aside from your money.

Society has nothing to do with this, it's just that i can't satisfy my sex drive for free. Blaming society is some nonsense that a teen would do.
You're changing/confusing your argument from sex being better when you're desired to being able to have quantitatively more sex when you're desirable.

Ignoring the role society plays in your identity is idiotic. Assuming you think in a way independent of your surroundings is something a teen would do, in your words, not to mention ignore centuries of thought.
 
This happens to me as well some days and it hits very very HARD.
Chemistry, math, physics, computer programming, art, gardening, botany & zoology
Those are kind of hard
 
I forgot what's the average age of this forum, but i guess it's around 22-23, maybe lower. Being in my 30's i'm probably older than the most of you. One could think that when you get older something changes but, for me, it doesn't. My life is basically filled with low-key depression since i was 10 and there are bursts of this depression worsening and it's not due to complicated reasons, but to the fact i'm exposed to various things that reminds me i'm ugly and my dick is average. Dunno, a video where chad goes outside and women are attracted to him. Or amateur porn.

So, for my entire life i've been suggested to go into therapy and, when i was younger, i tried it many times. First problem is that 90% of psychologists is made up by women, and most of them are good looking. I remember when i was around 20, my mother tried to suggest this woman to me, she was around 30 and frigging hot. Imagine being sexually frustrated and going to some hot woman, paying them to have her "listen" to you and, after work, she gets some chad's cum on her pretty face.

Rest of them are beta males which are in denial and trust me, there's no way they will be useful in any way. I've tried with a male psychologist but this guy was old, in his 60's, and all he could say is that "you should accept that some people could find you attractive, for example i consider you a good looking young man". For this guy i should have felt happy that a fucking old man is thinking i could be attractive. DUMB FUCK, I NEED GIRLS TO FIND ME ATTRACTIVE, NOT YOU. And when i talked him about sex and about the fact women are sexually satisfied with superior men, he was all "there's not only sex in a relationship but you can walk her in the park" and shit like that.

Maybe a chad psychologist (or a non chad with a based minsed) would be more based but he would simply say "you have to accept what you are", and if you can't, a conversation wouldn't change it.

Once again, i don't envy cucks or deluded normies because i know they're not happy inside, but it feels like i lack that veil of blissful ignorance which allows normal/below average people to live relatively peacefully, and i lack it since i was VERY young. There's no way i can forget that, even in the scenario a girl would be with me, she'd probably crave someone better but she'd settle with me because reasons.

It's fucking horrible, and this shit will haunt me until i get old. I'm even too chickenshit to rope because i'm afraid of the pain.

I doubt chad can be depressed. There are probably exceptions, but when you're an attractive male with a big dick the problem in your life can be just external (but that can happen to us, too).

Every time i go to bed, lately, i always have the same fantasy: an easy and painless way to kill yourself is created and made available to everyone. I fall asleep thinking about that and how many people would adopt this solution.

Relatable.

At least you can take solace in the fact that you are not alone with your struggles even if it feels so.
 
Relatable.

At least you can take solace in the fact that you are not alone with your struggles even if it feels so.

I really don't. I wish there weren't people that has to suffer this.
 
no therapy for your face
 
You're changing/confusing your argument from sex being better when you're desired to being able to have quantitatively more sex when you're desirable.

Ignoring the role society plays in your identity is idiotic. Assuming you think in a way independent of your surroundings is something a teen would do, in your words, not to mention ignore centuries of thought.
I don't give a fuck about society, i want to fuck because it feels good. Stop acting like some it cuck by misleading and pushing your thought.

Again, i don't give a fuck about society.
 
What you SHOULD try are antidepressants (SSRIs)
Trust me a lot of people think they are just trash Jew pills or that the side effects are crazy but that's just not true, SSRIs are fucking based, for real.
You should go to a psychiatrist and ask him what medication is best for you, you wont regret it mans. :feelsthink: :feelsLSD:
wasn't surprised when i saw the name crossed out
 
I don't give a fuck about society, i want to fuck because it feels good. Stop acting like some it cuck by misleading and pushing your thought.

Again, i don't give a fuck about society.
High IQ.
 
I forgot what's the average age of this forum, but i guess it's around 22-23, maybe lower. Being in my 30's i'm probably older than the most of you. One could think that when you get older something changes but, for me, it doesn't. My life is basically filled with low-key depression since i was 10 and there are bursts of this depression worsening and it's not due to complicated reasons, but to the fact i'm exposed to various things that reminds me i'm ugly and my dick is average. Dunno, a video where chad goes outside and women are attracted to him. Or amateur porn.

So, for my entire life i've been suggested to go into therapy and, when i was younger, i tried it many times. First problem is that 90% of psychologists is made up by women, and most of them are good looking. I remember when i was around 20, my mother tried to suggest this woman to me, she was around 30 and frigging hot. Imagine being sexually frustrated and going to some hot woman, paying them to have her "listen" to you and, after work, she gets some chad's cum on her pretty face.

Rest of them are beta males which are in denial and trust me, there's no way they will be useful in any way. I've tried with a male psychologist but this guy was old, in his 60's, and all he could say is that "you should accept that some people could find you attractive, for example i consider you a good looking young man". For this guy i should have felt happy that a fucking old man is thinking i could be attractive. DUMB FUCK, I NEED GIRLS TO FIND ME ATTRACTIVE, NOT YOU. And when i talked him about sex and about the fact women are sexually satisfied with superior men, he was all "there's not only sex in a relationship but you can walk her in the park" and shit like that.

Maybe a chad psychologist (or a non chad with a based minsed) would be more based but he would simply say "you have to accept what you are", and if you can't, a conversation wouldn't change it.

Once again, i don't envy cucks or deluded normies because i know they're not happy inside, but it feels like i lack that veil of blissful ignorance which allows normal/below average people to live relatively peacefully, and i lack it since i was VERY young. There's no way i can forget that, even in the scenario a girl would be with me, she'd probably crave someone better but she'd settle with me because reasons.

It's fucking horrible, and this shit will haunt me until i get old. I'm even too chickenshit to rope because i'm afraid of the pain.

I doubt chad can be depressed. There are probably exceptions, but when you're an attractive male with a big dick the problem in your life can be just external (but that can happen to us, too).

Every time i go to bed, lately, i always have the same fantasy: an easy and painless way to kill yourself is created and made available to everyone. I fall asleep thinking about that and how many people would adopt this solution.
Go full Buddhist bro its your only option
 
I also can't forget when i've tried chadfishing, that was another high blow to my self-esteem. You should NEVER do that,
I did it once and had phone sex with a "dumb" foid(if u know what I mean) and it actually made me feel good, but then I continued feeling like shit after I blocked her (bc of my life, not the chadfishing). It could be a good way to pass time if you have the right mindset but yeah I wouldn't recommend it if you're very depressed.
Convincing you of anything isn't what psychoanalysis is about. A good therapist never tells you what to think.
There is no such thing as a "good therapist" JFL
jfl my mom wants me to go to therapy too nowadays
I told her im willing to go to therapy again but only if the the rapist is male
What?
You're changing/confusing your argument from sex being better when you're desired to being able to have quantitatively more sex when you're desirable.

Ignoring the role society plays in your identity is idiotic. Assuming you think in a way independent of your surroundings is something a teen would do, in your words, not to mention ignore centuries of thought.
"Just ignore the entire history of humanity and pretend men don't want to be desired by women theory"


OP: maybe your inner hatred can help you, it works a lot for me. I'm not saying it's a good feeling but it's better to hate than to fall into depression. Keep in mind that hate has been a big factor in our ancestors' survival for millennia. For example: how do you think ancient warriors coped with the hardships and cruelty of war? By filling their hearts with hate and becoming callous sons of bitches.

Hate everyone that isn't on your side and get rid of your sense of remorse and you'll feel better.
 
all he could say is that "you should accept that some people could find you attractive, for example i consider you a good looking young man". For this guy i should have felt happy that a fucking old man is thinking i could be attractive. DUMB FUCK, I NEED GIRLS TO FIND ME ATTRACTIVE, NOT YOU. And when i talked him about sex and about the fact women are sexually satisfied with superior men, he was all "there's not only sex in a relationship but you can walk her in the park" and shit like that.

Realistically, what do you want him to say? To accept the blackpill? Even if he did, what difference would it make to your life?

If you were born with subpar genetics then it's over, therapists aren't magicians. Just gotta cope with it somehow.
 
I try to limit things that depress me. Thats why i watch 0 tv, listen to 0 music, go outside rarely.

Imo what incels like us have to do is get a hobby/quest we are working on. Actually get a couple of them that we spend some time on each, so we don't lose passion.

For example last year i've been working on moneymaxxing on the stock market. So I spend quite a bit of time reading on forums and looking up annual reports and so on. Even then normie ads on the websites can make me depressed.

Chemistry, math, physics, computer programming, art, gardening, botany & zoology.. those are good ones.

Basically any subject where you can use your incel tier mind, and it is on an abstract subject.

Also sleeping a lot if you feel like it.

I'm not saying this will cure you, only if you can get your mind working on those things, each hour you are doing those you are not looking at something to depress you.. or listening.
This.

and on that note I'm going off for now and will return when I'm bored.
 
try microdosing psilocybin
 

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