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Serious I'm reading 1984 for the first time and this is what Orwell got wrong.

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I haven't finished the book yet. I've just started chapter VII, but I couldn't wait until I've finished reading the entire book before writing my thoughts on it. I think Orwell's version of a totalitarian world was correct for the most part. But I believe he got it wrong when it comes to women. He believed that a totalitarian regime would try to use chastity among its members as a weapon of control. He envisioned a world of women who despised sex and only had intercourse as a duty to the state to beget children.

People like Orwell, at that particular time, thought the sexual liberation of women would be beneficial to society. I believe he thought that women would be competing for the attention of the average Joes of this world and that any man, regardless of looks or social standing, would get plenty of sex from women. Moreover, he thought women would be faithful to their spouse and wouldn't cheat with a more virile man. Orwell, even though he was extremely intelligent, lacked the sagacity to see the big picture.

We all know that things didn't play out the way he had imagined. What happened, in reality, was the complete opposite: they allowed women to be sexually promiscuous, and that destroyed traditional family values and the Christian western world. Women used to be the pillar of the household; they were the ones responsible for raising the children while the husband was away at work. The end of women's traditional role in society marked the end of a successful alliance between men and women. The teamwork which had secured the success of the human race during countless tribulations over the centuries has collapsed.

The so-called sexual revolution turned the world back to a primal state in which only a handful of men got to reproduce. A lot of men can no longer find a suitable woman to share their lives with. Women have ridiculously high standards and only want the top 10% of men. This whole situation, which has been getting worse since the 1960s, was overly exacerbated by the advent of social media and dating apps. Personality no longer matters in today's world. The only thing that matters is how good you look in a picture and how popular you are.

I think George Orwell couldn't have imagined that society would get this bad. He wrote in a time where computers did not even exist. He almost got it right. What scares me is that not even a genius or a talented novelist could imagine a world so nasty as the one we live in. Our reality is much worse than any work of fiction.
 
Hitler IQ. Pin this.
 
I haven't finished the book yet. I've just started chapter VII, but I couldn't wait until I've finished reading the entire book before writing my thoughts on it. I think Orwell's version of a totalitarian world was correct for the most part. But I believe he got it wrong when it comes to women. He believed that a totalitarian regime would try to use chastity among its members as a weapon of control. He envisioned a world of women who despised sex and only had intercourse as a duty to the state to beget children.

People like Orwell, at that particular time, thought the sexual liberation of women would be beneficial to society. I believe he thought that women would be competing for the attention of the average Joes of this world and that any man, regardless of looks or social standing, would get plenty of sex from women. Moreover, he thought women would be faithful to their spouse and wouldn't cheat with a more virile man. Orwell, even though he was extremely intelligent, lacked the sagacity to see the big picture.

We all know that things didn't play out the way he had imagined. What happened, in reality, was the complete opposite: they allowed women to be sexually promiscuous, and that destroyed traditional family values and the Christian western world. Women used to be the pillar of the household; they were the ones responsible for raising the children while the husband was away at work. The end of women's traditional role in society marked the end of a successful alliance between men and women. The teamwork which had secured the success of the human race during countless tribulations over the centuries has collapsed.

The so-called sexual revolution turned the world back to a primal state in which only a handful of men got to reproduce. A lot of men can no longer find a suitable woman to share their lives with. Women have ridiculously high standards and only want the top 10% of men. This whole situation, which has been getting worse since the 1960s, was overly exacerbated by the advent of social media and dating apps. Personality no longer matters in today's world. The only thing that matters is how good you look in a picture and how popular you are.

I think George Orwell couldn't have imagined that society would get this bad. He wrote in a time where computers did not even exist. He almost got it right. What scares me is that not even a genius or a talented novelist could imagine a world so nasty as the one we live in. Our reality is much worse than any work of fiction.
Huxley got closer to today's hell in Brave New World. He literally divided humanity into beta, alpha and omega castes. I think he had access to a literal time machine ngl.
 
1984 was a warning, not a prediction. IIRC he accurately predicted the incel epidemic (as a result of a liberated sexual market and an ever-expanding gap between haves and have-nots), and suggested an outbreak of homosexuality (you could call it "prison gay") would break out as a result.
 
He envisioned a world of women who despised sex and only had intercourse as a duty to the state to beget children.

They despise sex with ugly men and only want children with chad or betabuxers for child support and divorce rape
 
1984 was a warning, not a prediction. IIRC he accurately predicted the incel epidemic (as a result of a liberated sexual market and an ever-expanding gap between haves and have-nots), and suggested an outbreak of homosexuality (you could call it "prison gay") would break out as a result.

What's the name of the book?
 
I might need to read 1984 again, last I read it was back in 2008. Shit was crazy and sadly it looks as though 1984 is already here, with censorship, being monitored, being lynched for wrongthink, etc. Back when I read it, I naively thought this would never happen, but with how much worse things are getting, I'm now thinking the opposite.

@Master @SergeantIncel I think this topic needs to be pinned, this needs to be talked about more.
 
Brave New World then
 
Huxley got closer to today's hell in Brave New World. He literally divided humanity into beta, alpha and omega castes. I think he had access to a literal time machine ngl.
This. Read Brave New World.
 
Female and male relations are just selfish dopamine hits now with a nasty occasional side effect of child birth.

Roasts feel good from Chad's dick, that's all there is to it. Chad feels good from ramming yet another hole.
1984 was a warning, not a prediction. IIRC he accurately predicted the incel epidemic (as a result of a liberated sexual market and an ever-expanding gap between haves and have-nots), and suggested an outbreak of homosexuality (you could call it "prison gay") would break out as a result.
This is why trap culture is rising at an alarming rate. It will only get worse
 
Bunch of jewdiomasonic creeps writing books about the future!

Now excuse me while i pop a soma and get ready for my FaceTime with the boot!
 
You literally should not be suprised tive it 10 to max 20 years and what we call beta uprising in some way will happen
 
Fascinating.

I've read Nineteen Eighty-Four twice so far. The first time I read it, I considered it a cautionary tale about totalitarian governments (i.e. 21st century China) and excessive nationalism/militarism. The second time around, my main thought was about the implications of censorship and thoughtcrime.

Perhaps I should give it another read and examine the romantic and sexual aspects of the book in detail.
 
It was more a book criticizing communism and other ideologies popular at the time. He saw what was happening in Russia. After his time in Catalonia, I think Orwell lost faith in any sort of syndicalist ideology, believing human nature would corrupt it, the end result being totalitarianism. Since you haven't finished the book, Julia betrays Winston to preserve her own life during torture (or at least that's communicated to him). The notion of true love is thrown out the moment survival is at stake, so I don't think Orwell had any romantic notions.

Huxley's lineage was oligarchical. His brother was the first director-general of Unesco and both were experts in evolutionary biology and psychology. Trans-humanism is cynical of the human condition and it's no wonder our present is orientated towards Brave New World rather than 1984.
 
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Female and male relations are just selfish dopamine hits now with a nasty occasional side effect of child birth.

Roasts feel good from Chad's dick, that's all there is to it. Chad feels good from ramming yet another hole.
Disgusting that this is now the popular perception- to raise a family is one of the greatest joys in the world and the culmination of billions of years of evolution. It's a damn shame that we're exempt from such a process in this modern world.
 
Exo Sapiens IQ.
 
As it turns out, not every totalitarian state has to resemble Stalinist era Russia. Isn't totalitarianism defined as a political system which prohibits opposition, restricts individual freedoms and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life? Isn't the world we're living today kind of like that already? We're only free as long as we are loyal to the system. Do or say something politically incorrect and you will quickly see how fast the illusion of freedom evaporates.
 
He got everything wrong, brave new world is the only correct one, except we are pre genetic engineering. Nothing is censored, we don't live in NK
 
Yes, the prison is your mind and our apathy perpetuates the shitty system we live in. The west is closer to an inverted totalitarian system. If anyone is interested, Sheldon Wolin coined the term in his book "Democracy Incorporated". Another good book is Chris Hedge's "Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt". A brief description from wika:

The political philosopher Sheldon Wolin coined the term inverted totalitarianism in 2003 to describe what he saw as the emerging form of government of the United States. Wolin analysed the United States as increasingly turning into a managed democracy (similar to an illiberal democracy). He uses the term "inverted totalitarianism" to draw attention to the totalitarian aspects of the American political system while emphasizing its differences from proper totalitarianism, such as Naziand Stalinist regimes.[1]

The book Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt (2012) by Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco portrays inverted totalitarianism as a system where corporations have corrupted and subverted democracy and where economics bests politics.[2][3][4][5] Every natural resource and living being is commodified and exploited by large corporations to the point of collapse as excess consumerism and sensationalism lull and manipulate the citizenry into surrendering their liberties and their participation in government.[6][7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism#cite_note-MargaretFlowers-2013-02-7
 
what we call beta uprising in some way will happen
I'm doubtful but hopefully you're right.
I think once foids start seeing normies and non-chads in general as undesirable and they become incels then shit will truly start to happen
 
Winston Smith somehow got a better life than Elliot.

At the end of the day 1984 is just fiction, My Twisted World is our reality.
 
What scares me is that not even a genius or a talented novelist could imagine a world so nasty as the one we live in. Our reality is much worse than any work of fiction.
Social media and tinder have damaged society more than anything else in human history. Not even the black plague or nuking japan was this damaging to a civilization.
 
Newton level IQ
 
The end of women's traditional role in society marked the end of a successful alliance between men and women. The teamwork which had secured the success of the human race during countless tribulations over the centuries has collapsed.

Nicely written.
 
Women have ridiculously high standards and only want the top 10% of men.
this wouldn't even be that horrible if top 10% actually meant top 10% instead of tallest, most popular, most violent, strongest facial features. as it stands, we are devolving and suffering too. subhumans are breeding at an alarming rate and foids want the same sperm they did in the stone age.
 
Now read Brave New World.
 
Aldous Huxley's Brave New World is much closer to the reality we live in today. He KNEW that society would be separated by their classes and that the subordinate classes of humans (betas, gammas epsilons) would have to be brainwashed from birth in order to be happy being servants to the Alphas who live a privileged life of nothing but fucking and having fun.

The bourgeois upper class are back again, and once again the solution to it will be national socialism.
 
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We don't live in a totalitarian state. This is laughable nonsense.
 
High IQ, also you should read Brave New World.
 
High iq post, i didnt like that book tbh
 
The modern world is an intricate mix of 1984 and A brave new world.
i didnt like that book tbh
You're a soycuck, ngl
what we call beta uprising in some way will happen
Same mistake as the one Winston makes in the book. There is no hope in the proles.

The only way any uprising will happen is if there is a sudden food shortage or a cataclysmic event.
 
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Huxley got closer to today's hell in Brave New World. He literally divided humanity into beta, alpha and omega castes. I think he had access to a literal time machine ngl.
This. Incels of the future will be Epsilon semi-morons, or they'll be Epsilons who'll get to fuck Epsilon foids but that's the optimistic scenario
 
1984 is anti-Nazi propaganda. Only national socialism or similar can save us.
 
Huxley introduced Alphas and Betas way before anyone did. Although they are created through eugenics, in reality, we have a non-verbal agreement on who is on top and who isn't. In Brave New World, everyone dates their looks-match and sex is purely recreational. For us, Epsilon minus; it seems a slightly less awful world to live in than this reality.
 
Huxley introduced Alphas and Betas way before anyone did. Although they are created through eugenics, in reality, we have a non-verbal agreement on who is on top and who isn't. In Brave New World, everyone dates their looks-match and sex is purely recreational. For us, Epsilon minus; it seems a slightly less awful world to live in than this reality.
+ soma every day (free mild heroin without the side effects).
 
Huxley got closer to today's hell in Brave New World. He literally divided humanity into beta, alpha and omega castes. I think he had access to a literal time machine ngl.
they are both based books , but Brave New World is more blackpilled ngl.


Also OP , your post is high IQ .
 
In the grim darkness of the 21th century, there are only roasties.
 
Yes, you are entirely correct. I suggest you go search for: "Roger Devlin sexual utopia in power" in youtube if u wanna get black pilled about this. That dude is 100% spot on.
 

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