ONLY IF YOU MEET THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD.
According to the research article: The Importance of Physical Attractiveness to the Mate Choices of Women and their Mothers (Full PDF available on request - Studentcrew).
From the Abstract:
First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parents.
"But I know a guy" - yeah shut up. There's nothing more I need to say, the sentence above speaks for itself.
Second, both daughters and their parents report valuing characteristics other than physical attractiveness most strongly (e.g., ambition/industriousness, friendliness/kindness).
I can imagine you're probably thinking this disproves the blackpill in someway? The next sentence:
However, the prior research relies solely on self-report to assess daughters’ and parents’ preferences.
In other words, they ask a woman online what they value most in a male mate and the answers received are akin to the deluded, virtue-signalling type of answers you'd receive on Reddit.
They had 4 Hypothesis they were investigating:
1) Importance of Attractiveness to Dating
2) Influence of Attractiveness on Personality Ratings
3-4) Relative Importance of Attractiveness verse Personality Characteristics
Importance of Attractiveness to Dating
To investigate the first Hypothesis, they were basically asked: "How desirable would you find this person as a dating partner for yourself" - for women "or for your daughter" - for mothers.
Interestingly, the mothers found the moderately attractive man as the most desirable mate followed by the attractive man and then the unattractive man.
an. Mothers also rated the unattractive man as a more desirable dating partner for their daughters than their daughters did for themselves.
Now the question is why?
In all honesty I can only go off an assumption here. The daughters were picking men based on who they'd see ontop of them, whereas the mothers were looking at men who could support them in the long term (betabux).
Either way, the unnattractive man was at the bottom of the list.
Influence of Attractiveness on Personality Ratings
...in all cases, attractiveness ratings (rather than personality ratings) more strongly correlated with dating desirability ratings. Although both attractiveness and personality ratings were significant predictors of women’s dating desirability ratings, attractiveness ratings were stronger independent predictors of their dating desirability ratings.
This backs up everything we've been saying about the Halo effect. Your looks make your personality, your personality do nothing for your looks and as we'll see in the next hypothesis investigation, your personality means nothing until the minimum looks threshold is met.
women and their mothers rated the attractive and moderately attractive men as having the most pleasing personalities followed by the unattractive man, regardless of the trait profiles ascribed to each man. Post hoc comparisons revealed that the attractive and moderately attractive men’s personalities were rated as equally positive while the unattractive man’s personality was rated less favorably than the personality of the attractive man and the moderately attractive man.
Basically no matter the exemplar personality assigned to the genetic failure. HE WAS FUCKED EITHER WAY.
Relative Importance of Attractiveness verse Personality Characteristics
I'm going to keep the method on this one short.
To sum up what they did, they altered the personality of each men relative to the man they were comparing.
CHAD vs High Tier Normie
Ok vs Great
Bad vs OK
Bad vs Great
. In support of Hypothesis 3, only moderately attractive men were ever rated more favorably than attractive men, in conditions 2 and 6, when paired with the respectful trait profile, and in condition 3, when paired with the friendly trait profile. Although the unattractive man was rated slightly more favorably than the moderately attractive man in condition 4, when he was paired with the respectful traits, this difference was not statistically significant.
Consistent with Hypothesis 4, for women, in all cases, attractiveness ratings (rather than personality ratings) more strongly correlated with dating desirability ratings. Although both attractiveness and personality ratings were significant predictors of women’s dating desirability ratings, attractiveness ratings were stronger independent predictors of their dating desirability ratings
You're right IncelTears. Personality matters, for like 10% of the attraction (max), however if you fail to meet the ever increasing standards women hold (See Hypergamy), then there is no reason for us to work on our "toxic personalities" through therapy/showers because we're not even "moderately attractive".
Women’s dating desirability 250 Evolutionary Psychological Science (2017) 3:243–252 ratings were more strongly uniquely impacted by their perceptions of the target men’s attractiveness (versus personality favorability) across attractiveness levels; attractiveness explained twice as much variance as personality favorability for women. However, for mothers, the relationships were more complicated. For mothers, personality ratings more strongly predicted men’s desirability as mates for their daughters for both moderately attractive and attractive men. However, for unattractive men, mothers’ perceptions of attractiveness more strongly predicted men’s desirability (or undesirability) as mates for their daughters than personality ratings. Although personality ratings impacted mothers’ perceptions of the target men more so than daughters’, personality ratings were strongly influenced by men’s physical attractiveness. Once again, these results suggest that a minimum level of attractiveness is a necessity (Li et al. 2002) for both women and their mothers.
Interestingly MOTHERS (i.e. The worn out women that have finished with the carousel), valued personality a bit more:
However this only applies to moderately attractive and attractive men, because for:
As incels are not "moderately attractive" (very few people here are above average - granted we're all not 2/10s, but moderately attractive begins at 6.5/10) and as
We can conclude that everything IncelTears utters is a load of horseshit (surprise) and although personality is importance, the value only becomes apparant if you're in the ever growing top percentile of men to be seen by the average woman.
Video for those who don't want to read.
According to the research article: The Importance of Physical Attractiveness to the Mate Choices of Women and their Mothers (Full PDF available on request - Studentcrew).
From the Abstract:
First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parents.
"But I know a guy" - yeah shut up. There's nothing more I need to say, the sentence above speaks for itself.
Second, both daughters and their parents report valuing characteristics other than physical attractiveness most strongly (e.g., ambition/industriousness, friendliness/kindness).
I can imagine you're probably thinking this disproves the blackpill in someway? The next sentence:
However, the prior research relies solely on self-report to assess daughters’ and parents’ preferences.
In other words, they ask a woman online what they value most in a male mate and the answers received are akin to the deluded, virtue-signalling type of answers you'd receive on Reddit.
They had 4 Hypothesis they were investigating:
1) Importance of Attractiveness to Dating
2) Influence of Attractiveness on Personality Ratings
3-4) Relative Importance of Attractiveness verse Personality Characteristics
Importance of Attractiveness to Dating
To investigate the first Hypothesis, they were basically asked: "How desirable would you find this person as a dating partner for yourself" - for women "or for your daughter" - for mothers.
Interestingly, the mothers found the moderately attractive man as the most desirable mate followed by the attractive man and then the unattractive man.
an. Mothers also rated the unattractive man as a more desirable dating partner for their daughters than their daughters did for themselves.
Now the question is why?
In all honesty I can only go off an assumption here. The daughters were picking men based on who they'd see ontop of them, whereas the mothers were looking at men who could support them in the long term (betabux).
Either way, the unnattractive man was at the bottom of the list.
Influence of Attractiveness on Personality Ratings
...in all cases, attractiveness ratings (rather than personality ratings) more strongly correlated with dating desirability ratings. Although both attractiveness and personality ratings were significant predictors of women’s dating desirability ratings, attractiveness ratings were stronger independent predictors of their dating desirability ratings.
This backs up everything we've been saying about the Halo effect. Your looks make your personality, your personality do nothing for your looks and as we'll see in the next hypothesis investigation, your personality means nothing until the minimum looks threshold is met.
women and their mothers rated the attractive and moderately attractive men as having the most pleasing personalities followed by the unattractive man, regardless of the trait profiles ascribed to each man. Post hoc comparisons revealed that the attractive and moderately attractive men’s personalities were rated as equally positive while the unattractive man’s personality was rated less favorably than the personality of the attractive man and the moderately attractive man.
Basically no matter the exemplar personality assigned to the genetic failure. HE WAS FUCKED EITHER WAY.
Relative Importance of Attractiveness verse Personality Characteristics
I'm going to keep the method on this one short.
To sum up what they did, they altered the personality of each men relative to the man they were comparing.
CHAD vs High Tier Normie
Ok vs Great
Bad vs OK
Bad vs Great
. In support of Hypothesis 3, only moderately attractive men were ever rated more favorably than attractive men, in conditions 2 and 6, when paired with the respectful trait profile, and in condition 3, when paired with the friendly trait profile. Although the unattractive man was rated slightly more favorably than the moderately attractive man in condition 4, when he was paired with the respectful traits, this difference was not statistically significant.
Consistent with Hypothesis 4, for women, in all cases, attractiveness ratings (rather than personality ratings) more strongly correlated with dating desirability ratings. Although both attractiveness and personality ratings were significant predictors of women’s dating desirability ratings, attractiveness ratings were stronger independent predictors of their dating desirability ratings
You're right IncelTears. Personality matters, for like 10% of the attraction (max), however if you fail to meet the ever increasing standards women hold (See Hypergamy), then there is no reason for us to work on our "toxic personalities" through therapy/showers because we're not even "moderately attractive".
Women’s dating desirability 250 Evolutionary Psychological Science (2017) 3:243–252 ratings were more strongly uniquely impacted by their perceptions of the target men’s attractiveness (versus personality favorability) across attractiveness levels; attractiveness explained twice as much variance as personality favorability for women. However, for mothers, the relationships were more complicated. For mothers, personality ratings more strongly predicted men’s desirability as mates for their daughters for both moderately attractive and attractive men. However, for unattractive men, mothers’ perceptions of attractiveness more strongly predicted men’s desirability (or undesirability) as mates for their daughters than personality ratings. Although personality ratings impacted mothers’ perceptions of the target men more so than daughters’, personality ratings were strongly influenced by men’s physical attractiveness. Once again, these results suggest that a minimum level of attractiveness is a necessity (Li et al. 2002) for both women and their mothers.
Interestingly MOTHERS (i.e. The worn out women that have finished with the carousel), valued personality a bit more:
However this only applies to moderately attractive and attractive men, because for:
As incels are not "moderately attractive" (very few people here are above average - granted we're all not 2/10s, but moderately attractive begins at 6.5/10) and as
We can conclude that everything IncelTears utters is a load of horseshit (surprise) and although personality is importance, the value only becomes apparant if you're in the ever growing top percentile of men to be seen by the average woman.
Video for those who don't want to read.
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