Interactions between humans are way too cold. This whole incel shit shouldn't exist, it doesn't make sense.

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This whole inceldom phenomenon shouldn't fucking exist, nobody should be so lonely. But it does, because humans are way too cold to each other, the barriers between people are too tough.

We should be a way happier species. Strangers shouldn't be as cold to each other as they are. You should be able to strike up a friendly conversation with anyone you see. You should be able to hang out with random people and have a nice time. A person should be able to make friends with someone just cause they randomly met somewhere.

But we live in a cold world instead. It's so fucking tough to make friends with people, and EVEN WHEN YOU DO, friendships are so superficial and weak. Imagine a world where people are constantly hugging and dancing and laughing and having a good time. That's how the world should be, there'd be no incels in that world. But we live in a world where everything is so tough and there's a huge barrier between people.
 
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But we live in a cold world instead. It's so fucking tough to make friends with people, and EVEN WHEN YOU DO, friendships are so superficial and weak. Imagine a world where people are constantly hugging and dancing and laughing and having a good time. That's how the world should be, there'd be no incels in that world. But we live in a world where everything is so tough and there's a huge barrier between people.
"Incels are complete monsters who want to create a dystopia!" - t. Cucktears
Jokes aside, completely agree on that, especially due to the internet everyone has become replaceable, neither a romantic relationship nor a friendship matters anymore, because it's a fairweather relationship at best, you don't go through good/bad times together, but rather drop the person at the first sign of trouble when you are popular enough to be able to get away with it, nothing really matters anymore for most people. Especially due to the Internet persons have been reduced to disposable consumer products (especially for those who have many relationships/friendships) and therefore know that they will have other opportunities.
 
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"Incels are complete monsters who want to create a dystopia!" - t. Cucktears
Jokes aside, completely agree on that, especially due to the internet everyone has become replaceable, neither a romantic relationship nor a friendship matters anymore, because it's a fairweather relationship at best, you don't go through good/bad times together, but rather drop the person at the first sign of trouble when you are popular enough to be able to get away with it, nothing really matters anymore for most people. Especially due to the Internet persons have been reduced to disposable consumer products (especially for those who have many relationships/friendships) and therefore know that they will have other opportunities.
Very well said. There's no sense of community either, everybody is in their own little bubble.

And you're very right about the people dropping others when it's inconvenient. It even happens in most marriages! Marriage would be so much better if it were truly through thick and thin. But nowadays when times are tough people just abandon you. What a sick world. And that's the people that you do get to a more intimate level with. But the way we interact with strangers in general is so ... cold. Instead of everybody being warm and nice to each other, striking up friendships at the drop of a hat, there's so many barriers. Everybody's so cold to each other, takes so much to become friendly with someone, especially when they don't stand to gain anything from you.
 
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This whole inceldom phenomenon shouldn't fucking exist, nobody should be so lonely. But it does, because humans are way too cold to each other, the barriers between people are too tough.

We should be a way happier species. Strangers shouldn't be as cold to each other as they are. You should be able to strike up a friendly conversation with anyone you see. You should be able to hang out with random people and have a nice time. A person should be able to make friends with someone just cause they randomly met somewhere.

But we live in a cold world instead. It's so fucking tough to make friends with people, and EVEN WHEN YOU DO, friendships are so superficial and weak. Imagine a world where people are constantly hugging and dancing and laughing and having a good time. That's how the world should be, there'd be no incels in that world. But we live in a world where everything is so tough and there's a huge barrier between people.
I can’t play wow bro, they’re just gonna nerf the classes i like.:feelsrope:
 
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I can’t play wow bro, they’re just gonna nerf the classes i like.:feelsrope:
Yeah I quit for good, fuck that chore simulator. So many years of my life wasted. If only there weren't so many god damn chores I'd play but I just can't do chores anymore man.
 
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Yeah I quit for good, fuck that chore simulator. So many years of my life wasted. If only there weren't so many god damn chores I'd play but I just can't do chores anymore man.
Literally like just let me raid once a week and do my own thing, i dont want to do 25 world quests a day just for a stupid fucking borrowed power that only lasts the expansion. Fuck Activision blizzard
 
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Very well said. There's no sense of community either, everybody is in their own little bubble.

And you're very right about the people dropping others when it's inconvenient. It even happens in most marriages! Marriage would be so much better if it were truly through thick and thin. But nowadays when times are tough people just abandon you. What a sick world. And that's the people that you do get to a more intimate level with. But the way we interact with strangers in general is so ... cold. Instead of everybody being warm and nice to each other, striking up friendships at the drop of a hat, there's so many barriers. Everybody's so cold to each other, takes so much to become friendly with someone, especially when they don't stand to gain anything from you.
Well said and incredibly brutal.
 
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The whole modern social organization is not natural neither healthy for humans

we're supposed to live in small, tribal groups consisting of mostly blood related individuals with not much contact or exchange with outsiders. You weren't supposed to know many people, and you would probably marry you cousin.

humans are social animals who require a lot of contact and interaction with others to function. Human interaction in modern society, especially in big cities and in first world countries is just awful.

Zoomers for instance can't even have small talks with people, we're getting more and more isolated and self centered, and more depressed as well.
 
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Literally like just let me raid once a week and do my own thing, i dont want to do 25 world quests a day just for a stupid fucking borrowed power that only lasts the expansion. Fuck Activision blizzard
They've also been lessening the rewards and lengthening the time it takes to complete each god damn chore, especially world quests and rep rewards. Fuck that game, Chorecraft.
The whole modern social organization is not natural neither healthy for humans

we're supposed to live in small, tribal groups consisting of mostly blood related individuals with not much contact or exchange with outsiders. You weren't supposed to know many people, and you would probably marry you cousin.

humans are social animals who require a lot of contact and interaction with others to function. Human interaction in modern society, especially in big cities and in first world countries is just awful.

Zoomers for instance can't even have small talks with people, we're getting more and more isolated and self centered, and more depressed as well.
Good observations mate. It's a sad state of affairs, so far from what's natural.
 
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I think it was C.S Lewis who said humanity loses a bit of their sympathy and morality when it's stretched so thin across a broad society. That we are overloaded with problems removed from our communities and families, making us more cynical in general. If we weren't so connected to the world, if things weren't on such a massive scale we might see a less cold world.
 
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I think it was C.S Lewis who said humanity loses a bit of their sympathy and morality when it's stretched so thin across a broad society. That we are overloaded with problems removed from our communities and families, making us more cynical in general. If we weren't so connected to the world, if things weren't on such a massive scale we might see a less cold world.
That does make sense. This is linked to what Tenshi said, it's not natural to live in these big societies. We evolved to live in small-ish tribes where you constantly interact with your buddies.
 
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The whole modern social organization is not natural neither healthy for humans

we're supposed to live in small, tribal groups consisting of mostly blood related individuals with not much contact or exchange with outsiders. You weren't supposed to know many people, and you would probably marry you cousin.

humans are social animals who require a lot of contact and interaction with others to function. Human interaction in modern society, especially in big cities and in first world countries is just awful.

Zoomers for instance can't even have small talks with people, we're getting more and more isolated and self centered, and more depressed as well.
Imo the idea of a humans being a cooperative and social species might be a lie itself. There's many outcasted low SMV males throughout history that no one cared about and only tried to use when convenient. Also many people in positions of power are psychopaths
 
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Imo the idea of a humans being a cooperative and social species might be a lie itself. There's many outcasted low SMV males throughout history that no one cared about and only tried to use when convenient. Also many people in positions of power are psychopaths
that's exactly because modern society is so awfully designed that literal psychos have an actual advantage in our world. That wouldn't be the case in primitive societies where people do need cooperation and trust in order to survive.
 
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And it gets sadder once you realize everyone is related and descended from common ancestor. We're fighting and hating one another when we're all technically family.
 
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that's exactly because modern society is so awfully designed that literal psychos have an actual advantage in our world. That wouldn't be the case in primitive societies where people do need cooperation and trust in order to survive.
I disagree and that's taking a very optimistic stance almost bordering on paleo diet levels of cope. The history of humanity has always been violent and full of unfair triumphs of psychopaths. Something as simple as social media, smartphones and a surveillance culture only amplifies this but without it such inclinations would still be present.
 
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Golly i wonder '''who''' could be responsible for making everyone so sociopathic?
 
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I disagree and that's taking a very optimistic stance almost bordering on paleo diet levels of cope. The history of humanity has always been violent and full of unfair triumphs of psychopaths. Something as simple as social media, smartphones and a surveillance culture only amplifies this but without it such inclinations would still be present.
jfl one thing doesn't desqualifies the other

humans are both violent and also capable of great empathy and cooperation. It just couldn't be otherwise, all humans gather in groups and rely on socialisation for survival, we are physically weak apes who can't do much without the help of others.

In fact, most of our violence is pretty much injustified cruelty over other groups of humans, but never against our kind (family, tribe etc), it just wouldn't work out if we had people like this in a small human comunity. That's completely different from how our world works nowadays, were we have a self suficient system that doesn't require much of this close cooperation, we're mostly interacting with strangers who will contribuite to society regardless, where someone can benefict much more out of being shallow, narcissistic and manipulative instead of creating real bonds with eachother (jfl dude look at other apes and how much time they spend grooming each other as well)

but as a rule, empathy, cooperation and socialisation is way more useful in nature for humans, I'm sorry but denying that is just stupidity.
 
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"Incels are complete monsters who want to create a dystopia!" - t. Cucktears
Jokes aside, completely agree on that, especially due to the internet everyone has become replaceable, neither a romantic relationship nor a friendship matters anymore, because it's a fairweather relationship at best, you don't go through good/bad times together, but rather drop the person at the first sign of trouble when you are popular enough to be able to get away with it, nothing really matters anymore for most people. Especially due to the Internet persons have been reduced to disposable consumer products (especially for those who have many relationships/friendships) and therefore know that they will have other opportunities.
Well said.

Tribes, clans, and extended families are almost extinct in the modern West. This is what the "system" wants- it wants and needs people to be atomized, rootless cogs. Feminism is/was pushed to advance this, since female instincts are natural atomizers and social killers.
 
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This whole inceldom phenomenon shouldn't fucking exist, nobody should be so lonely. But it does, because humans are way too cold to each other, the barriers between people are too tough.

We should be a way happier species. Strangers shouldn't be as cold to each other as they are. You should be able to strike up a friendly conversation with anyone you see. You should be able to hang out with random people and have a nice time. A person should be able to make friends with someone just cause they randomly met somewhere.

But we live in a cold world instead. It's so fucking tough to make friends with people, and EVEN WHEN YOU DO, friendships are so superficial and weak. Imagine a world where people are constantly hugging and dancing and laughing and having a good time. That's how the world should be, there'd be no incels in that world. But we live in a world where everything is so tough and there's a huge barrier between people.

Cities are an abnormality. For most of humanity's existence we lived in significantly smaller Hunter-Gatherer groups or villages so it should come as no surprise if living in a city surrounded by an overwhelming majority of people you will never truly meet or know feels awkward.
 
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jfl one thing doesn't desqualifies the other

humans are both violent and also capable of great empathy and cooperation. It just couldn't be otherwise, all humans gather in groups and rely on socialisation for survival, we are physically weak apes who can't do much without the help of others.
It seems that if was the case it's been forgotten long ago. It's everyone for themselves now as a general rule tbh
In fact, most of our violence is pretty much injustified cruelty over other groups of humans, but never against our kind (family, tribe etc), it just wouldn't work out if we had people like this in a small human comunity. That's completely different from how our world works nowadays, were we have a self suficient system that doesn't require much of this close cooperation, we're mostly interacting with strangers who will contribuite to society regardless, where someone can benefict much more out of being shallow, narcissistic and manipulative instead of creating real bonds with eachother (jfl dude look at other apes and how much time they spend grooming each other as well)
Sadly many animals show more cooperation than humans do. For example humans are one of the few animals that will be violent and kill each other over something not involving conflicts over food, resources or mates.
but as a rule, empathy, cooperation and socialisation is way more useful in nature for humans, I'm sorry but denying that is just stupidity.
It is useful and that's not to say it didn't exist but imo it came to be used in a much more opportunistic way than official history states. It was a marriage of convenience that was discarded as soon as benefits were no longer apparent. It wasn't cooperation so much as self interest and utilitarianism rationalized as being for the "great good" @BlkPillPres
 
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It is useful and that's not to say it didn't exist but imo it came to be used in a much more opportunistic way than official history states. It was a marriage of convenience that was discarded as soon as benefits were no longer apparent. It wasn't cooperation so much as self interest and utilitarianism rationalized as being for the "great good" @BlkPillPres

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Morality is just "shared selfishness", people aren't "moral" because they are good, people are moral out of self interest

1. You are seen as a "good person" (ego boost and social status perks)

2. Seeking out interests of mutual safety ensures your safety and prosperity (hence why people are against theft in general, but if someones country stole the technology of another that allowed it to now prosper, nobody in the country would be complaining about that and calling it "immoral". Morality is about collective self interest)

Its a lot more straight forward and "bland" that people like to think, but humans love to mystify and glorify everything about their existence, because most humans are egoists

Its the reason why sex is called "making love" and other bullshit, we have to make everything we do sound not just special, but PURE, as if there is some kind of inherent righteousness to your existence.
 
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It's so fucking tough to make friends with people, and EVEN WHEN YOU DO, friendships are so superficial and weak.
This. Low inhib people who are very talkative and make friends all the time are a testimony to this ... I know a dude like that, he knows people from all over the world and is constantly bragging about it ( annoying fuck), but he once told me after a beer that he feels lonely because he can never make meaningful bonds with people, it's just chit chat talk going nowhere all the time, and his outgoing persona is so shallow that all his relations end up shallow as well. Also, he told me that most normie people are merely low quality assholes, so low inhib max is actually suifuel maxx. I have few friends, but I know they are friends and will never stab me in the back. That's much more than any dozen of fuckers crawling around the world, do nothing but "chill", and will never help in case of need.
 
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This. Low inhib people who are very talkative and make friends all the time are a testimony to this ... I know a dude like that, he knows people from all over the world and is constantly bragging about it ( annoying fuck), but he once told me after a beer that he feels lonely because he can never make meaningful bonds with people, it's just chit chat talk going nowhere all the time, and his outgoing persona is so shallow that all his relations end up shallow as well. Also, he told me that most normie people are merely low quality assholes, so low inhib max is actually suifuel maxx. I have few friends, but I know they are friends and will never stab me in the back. That's much more than any dozen of fuckers crawling around the world, do nothing but "chill", and will never help in case of need.
Very good point mate, that is sadly the truth.
 
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Morality is just "shared selfishness", people aren't "moral" because they are good, people are moral out of self interest

1. You are seen as a "good person" (ego boost and social status perks)

2. Seeking out interests of mutual safety ensures your safety and prosperity (hence why people are against theft in general, but if someones country stole the technology of another that allowed it to now prosper, nobody in the country would be complaining about that and calling it "immoral". Morality is about collective self interest)

Its a lot more straight forward and "bland" that people like to think, but humans love to mystify and glorify everything about their existence, because most humans are egoists

Its the reason why sex is called "making love" and other bullshit, we have to make everything we do sound not just special, but PURE, as if there is some kind of inherent righteousness to your existence.
I'm not really talking about morality per se but rather the capacity of being empathetic towards others as an useful tool for survival in humans. I mean we can all agree that humans are egoistic and seek ego boosts, increase their status within a group but I just don't think all human interactions are merely a byproduct of some sorta of intrinsic desire to ascend in the social ladder.

I mean in this case humans benefict a lot more from caring about each other, we just rely too much on these interactions and keeping the group united as we're just too fragile as a species. I'm talking about a natural environment of course, the world we live in nowadays isn't just a good way to evaluate our nature, things are just too messed up, both in good and bad ways.

Thing is, that wouldn't explain cases where we don't have any of these stimuli and yet we act empathetic, even towards other species. Of course this isn't unique to humans but it seems to be a tendency in more social, intellectually developed species. Dolphins and apes also seem to show empathy towards each other and even towards humans, but they also engage in unjustifiable cruelty (like killing for fun) so it's a way more complex thing than we tend to imagine.