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Is a blackpilled individual able to enjoy or create art?

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I don't know what the blackpill means for you, but for me it's just one of many reasons why I'm a cynic, nihilist and more importantly, misanthrope.

With that mindset ... it's hard to enjoy most things. To appreciate the beauty of art becomes difficult. Because all the messages that most pieces of art are trying to convey seem trite, even naive.

What about creating art? I suppose the term art itself is highly subjective, especially when you think of the shit that dares call itself art nowadays (and ends up winning awards anyways). But doesn't the blackpill sort of narrow our view? Making us instantly eliminate many avenues of thought simply because they are too different from our usual cynical mindset.
 
Art is for low Ts. Just be straightforward about your shit tbh.
 
You need to fuck a pussy to enjoy art? No, so being blackpilled dont have anything to do with enjoying art
 
Art is for low Ts. Just be straightforward about your shit tbh.
This is what I mean, aren't we limiting ourselves by having such categoric worldviews? There must be more to life, maybe if we could appreciate art we could expand our inner world?
You need to fuck a pussy to enjoy art? No, so being blackpilled dont have anything to do with enjoying art
Yes but being blackpilled doesn't resume to knowing looks are one of the most important things in life. It affects your mindset in more ways than just what you think about pussy and looks.
 
I love to draw. I don't do it anywhere as often as I like due to depression and LDARing.
My life goal is still to do a comic or manga one day. I also wanted to create a comic about incels once, but only drawing ugly and deformed dudes was so fucking depressing that I stopped after a page.
 
I love to draw. I don't do it anywhere close as often as I like due to depression and LDARing.
My life goal is still to do a comic or manga one day. I also wanted to create a comic about incels once, but only drawing ugly and deformed dudes was so fucking depressing that I stopped after a page.
YES! That is exactly what I mean. See, you focused so much on the blackpill, on looks - you were so affected by the blackpill that you weren't able to continue with your passion of drawing beyond one page!
 
Blackpill has nothing to do with art. Being black pilled just means you accept scientific facts.
 
I like art
Art is for low Ts. Just be straightforward about your shit tbh.
Doesn't apply to all art. That only applies to normie art who try and pretend that there's a "deep meaning" behind their meaningless piece of shit
 
YES! That is exactly what I mean. See, you focused so much on the blackpill, on looks - you were so affected by the blackpill that you weren't able to continue with your passion of drawing beyond one page!
I like that we get each other. Drawing and gymmaxxing are my most productives copes. Sadly its both something pretty introverted that doesn't get me far socially.
 
I like that we get each other. Drawing and gymmaxxing are my most productives copes. Sadly its both something pretty introverted that doesn't get me far socially.
I think that when we expect something to get us somewhere socially, or to even be productive, it stops being enjoyable. Just enjoying the process of drawing and the process of going to the gym and sculpting your body, it's a blessing in and of itself. Any other possible benefits are purely incidental and shouldn't prevent you from enjoying those things just because these side benefits aren't manifesting.
 
considering most of us cope with music,games,art,manga,anime and a bunch of other shit then yeah i will say that most of us can still enjoy art.


art is actually the only platform where an incel might create something beautiful.he cannot pay up with his looks but he might be able to create something which is still considered a pleasure.Art at this point is the only way the poor have apart from strength to get their message across.Look at how much of an impact chad vs incel meme.Sure the normies distorted the entire meme and simply now use it as a cheap pride boost,but you cannot lie about how deep it penetrated certain circles(4chan,reddit,youtube etc etc).
 
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Art is for low Ts. Just be straightforward about your shit tbh.
I don’t get it ngl. Maby I’m retarded but I don’t see how staring at some shit smear on a canvas secretly portrays a deep message. Maybe the vaginal blood smearing blue haired buzz cut lesbian artists are onto something I’m not
 
I stopped enjoying particular things since blackpill. So, idk. But one I can say for sure, is that if you start drawing for example. As you will get better you will enjoy it. As you see you can create something like that, you will feel proud imo. I want to write a book one day
Blackpill has nothing to do with art. Being black pilled just means you accept scientific facts.
 
It may be harder to create art as an incel because one of the functions of creating art is to impress others and display social status.
 
I think that when we expect something to get us somewhere socially, or to even be productive, it stops being enjoyable. Just enjoying the process of drawing and the process of going to the gym and sculpting your body, it's a blessing in and of itself. Any other possible benefits are purely incidental and shouldn't prevent you from enjoying those things just because these side benefits aren't manifesting.
I do, but especially with the drawing I want to reach a goal one day. I and I would want to be a known artist (or hate at least a few hundred people recognize my art style in memes/pictures) in my 20s or at least early 30s. This is at least some achievable goal.
 
I create art. It's not good art, but I create art.
It may be harder to create art as an incel because one of the functions of creating art is to impress others and display social status.
Which is why I can't improve as I have no one to show my art to.
 
considering most of us cope with music,games,art,manga,anime and a bunch of other shit then yeah i will say that most of us can still enjoy art.


art is actually the only platform where an incel might create something beautiful.he cannot pay up with his looks but he might be able to create something which is still considered a pleasure.Art at this point is the only way the poor have apart from strength to get their message across.Look at how much of an impact chad vs incel meme.Sure the normies distorted the entire meme and simply now use it as a cheap pride boost,but you cannot lie about how deep it penetrated certain circles(4chan,reddit,youtube etc etc).
Well I'd argue that most of the music, games and shows and such that we consume are more entertainment than art, as in they lack the sort of meaning that differentiates art from entertainment.

But you make a very good point. The blackpill itself can be art, the mere idea of how important looks are is certainly something worth evaluating. It can be almost buddhist, that humanity's goal should be to rid itself of the obsession with looks an aesthetics and to be able to appreciate inner beauty. Though then again, us blackpilled guys know that humanity will never reach that point, for we are just filthy pea-brained monkeys.
 
Art is for low Ts. Just be straightforward about your shit tbh.
Not all art is pretentious dribble that values being vague and mysterious though. Most art is honestly just a nice looking picture or scene that gets ignored by most people anyways tbh. No one cares about the guys who do shit like design backgrounds or things there to just look good (background art, graphic design, etc.)
Well I'd argue that most of the music, games and shows and such that we consume are more entertainment than art, as in they lack the sort of meaning that differentiates art from entertainment.
eh, I'd argue its still art even if it lacks some "deep meaning". If anything artists that try to make everything they make have "deep meaning" is what ruins a lot of art in the first place (and has absolutely rekt the art scene).
 
Absolutely yes, in fact I'd say it's the opposite: bluepilled normies can' truly create art since they're unable to reflect on themselves or the world around me.

As for me, I like to write poetry and guitar songs. I don't make masterpieces for sure, but it's a nice cope
 
I don’t get it ngl. Maby I’m retarded but I don’t see how staring at some shit smear on a canvas secretly portrays a deep message. Maybe the vaginal blood smearing blue haired buzz cut lesbian artists are onto something I’m not
Yeah abstract paintings seem like a load of bullshit to me too.
I stopped enjoying particular things since blackpill. So, idk. But one I can say for sure, is that if you start drawing for example. As you will get better you will enjoy it. As you see you can create something like that, you will feel proud imo. I want to write a book one day
Hmm, I guess a better way of framing my argument would've been to say the blackpill limits a wide area of art we may enjoy and appreciate, like what you said happened to you.
It may be harder to create art as an incel because one of the functions of creating art is to impress others and display social status.
Very good point, art is all about sharing and having it seen by others. Didn't even think of that because I'm so avoidant of people and antisocial but that's a very good point.
I create art. It's not good art, but I create art.

Which is why I can't improve as I have no one to show my art to.
What messages, what meaning does your art convey?
I do, but especially with the drawing I want to reach a goal one day. I and I would want to be a known artist (or hate at least a few hundred people recognize my art style in memes/pictures) in my 20s or at least early 30s. This is at least some achievable goal.
That's a very beautiful goal, you should really cherish this desire of yours. It's only about reaching that goal, it's also about enjoying the process of getting there. This desire to get better you're feeling is really one of the most underappreciated human experiences.
Not all art is pretentious dribble that values being vague and mysterious though. Most art is honestly just a nice looking picture or scene that gets ignored by most people anyways tbh. No one cares about the guys who do shit like design backgrounds or things there to just look good (background art, graphic design, etc.)

eh, I'd argue its still art even if it lacks some "deep meaning". If anything artists that try to make everything they make have "deep meaning" is what ruins a lot of art in the first place (and has absolutely rekt the art scene).
Good point, I enjoy things that don't shove meaning down my throat a lot more. Most of the time I just want to turn my brain off and consume. But at this point it's just semantics, is it art or entertainment. Too subjective to matter.
 
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Well I'd argue that most of the music, games and shows and such that we consume are more entertainment than art, as in they lack the sort of meaning that differentiates art from entertainment.

But you make a very good point. The blackpill itself can be art, the mere idea of how important looks are is certainly something worth evaluating. It can be almost buddhist, that humanity's goal should be to rid itself of the obsession with looks an aesthetics and to be able to appreciate inner beauty. Though then again, us blackpilled guys know that humanity will never reach that point, for we are just filthy pea-brained monkeys.
you can't ignore that which is physical.That is a pointless endeavour.The idea of beauty is eternal and there is no way to kill it.Would be fun to see more music about incels.Chadmarco and eggy do exist so there is that.
 
This is what I mean, aren't we limiting ourselves by having such categoric worldviews? There must be more to life, maybe if we could appreciate art we could expand our inner world?

Yes but being blackpilled doesn't resume to knowing looks are one of the most important things in life. It affects your mindset in more ways than just what you think about pussy and looks.
I ever knew that looks were important af, you are overreacting about the blackpill, you obv can enjoy art and other contents (even after being blackpilled)
 
I ever knew that looks were important af, you are overreacting about the blackpill, you obv can enjoy art and other contents (even after being blackpilled)
Don't you find that the cynical, negative mentality sort of seeps into your every thought? For example, you might be watching a movie, and every other moment sort of reminds you of the blackpill. Not even specifically sex or love, but even things that might seem unrelated like just seeing people being friendly or seeing kids and stuff like that. Brings me back to the blackpill, like when I see a kid I think that he's Chad's and Stacy's crotch spawn, or that even kids judge things by their looks.
 
we are able to create pornography or something didactic, and to Joyce, that is not art
 
What messages, what meaning does your art convey?

Driven by my mood. If I'm a bit upbeat for whatever reason, I might design something that would make me happy. If I'm in my usually default annoyed mood, then it's lazy moping around art.
Other times it's cringey action-anime-esque nonsense for me to vent out my anger at something.
 
I respect art
 
Absolutely yes, in fact I'd say it's the opposite: bluepilled normies can' truly create art since they're unable to reflect on themselves or the world around me.

As for me, I like to write poetry and guitar songs. I don't make masterpieces for sure, but it's a nice cope
That's pretty cool that you're expressing yourself through poetry and song. Sort of like a bard.
you can't ignore that which is physical.That is a pointless endeavour.The idea of beauty is eternal and there is no way to kill it.Would be fun to see more music about incels.Chadmarco and eggy do exist so there is that.
Incels are such an unpopular and unpleasant topic for normies. They really hate being exposed for the superficial creatures that they are. So unfortunately these kinds of artists won't get much traction.
 
Driven by my mood. If I'm a bit upbeat for whatever reason, I might design something that would make me happy. If I'm in my usually default annoyed mood, then it's lazy moping around art.
Other times it's cringey action-anime-esque nonsense for me to vent out my anger at something.
you draw?
 
Driven by my mood. If I'm a bit upbeat for whatever reason, I might design something that would make me happy. If I'm in my usually default annoyed mood, then it's lazy moping around art.
Other times it's cringey action-anime-esque nonsense for me to vent out my anger at something.
That sounds cool, keep it up buddy.
 
Don't you find that the cynical, negative mentality sort of seeps into your every thought? For example, you might be watching a movie, and every other moment sort of reminds you of the blackpill. Not even specifically sex or love, but even things that might seem unrelated like just seeing people being friendly or seeing kids and stuff like that. Brings me back to the blackpill, like when I see a kid I think that he's Chad's and Stacy's crotch spawn, or that even kids judge things by their looks.
We are all going to judge things based on looks, independent if we are blackpilled or not, and this thing you say remember me more the ADHD thing than being blackpilled, I have ADHD and I always remind of random things while watching a movie or doing something, I dont think its the blackpill that causes it
 
but only drawing ugly and deformed dudes was so fucking depressing that I stopped after a page.
Lol, that's my favorite part because it's easier, I don't see the problem.
 
Here is a quote by William Dudley Pelley, American fascist/Christian mystic from the 1930s. It's in response to psychologists critiquing his near death experience, which he wrote about in the book Seven Minutes in Eternity.

>One expert paid me the doubtful compliment of calling me a Shattered Soul.
>I say paid me a compliment because I have uniformly found that the easiest way for experts to rationalize the behavior of a person who seeks to do anything out of the ordinary, is-to call his soul shattered.
>Most analyses of the outstanding men of this or past generations have proven them shattered souls — beyond the fraction of a doubt.
>It is truly amazing what these personages of history immediately accomplished as soon as their souls became properly shattered

...and I agree with this. Sure, it may not be specific to being blackpilled, but any great man be it artist or otherwise has to touch deep, and you can't do that if you're completely bluepilled.
 
Art is for low Ts. Just be straightforward about your shit tbh.
Not if it's performance art...

For example:

weed whacking with a sword...

Amusing and useful.
 
Pencil, pen, pixel, and I've tried some 3d stuff but not too great on it.

It's one cope that helps keeps my mind from turning into mush.
always thought about writing an almost visual novel pixel art game.Sad that i can't write for shit kek
 
always thought about writing an almost visual novel pixel art game.Sad that i can't write for shit kek
I've had dreams of doing that long ago in all honesty. While I was still bluepilled I've had the thought of either getting into comics, graphic novels, video games, or something where most of my ideas can be brought to life. A time when I've had motivation to do something and excelling.
The rejections over the years brought it down to just a hobby that I mostly enjoy now as I don't have anyone or anything to push me to strive.
 
Here is a quote by William Dudley Pelley, American fascist/Christian mystic from the 1930s. It's in response to psychologists critiquing his near death experience, which he wrote about in the book Seven Minutes in Eternity.

>One expert paid me the doubtful compliment of calling me a Shattered Soul.
>I say paid me a compliment because I have uniformly found that the easiest way for experts to rationalize the behavior of a person who seeks to do anything out of the ordinary, is-to call his soul shattered.
>Most analyses of the outstanding men of this or past generations have proven them shattered souls — beyond the fraction of a doubt.
>It is truly amazing what these personages of history immediately accomplished as soon as their souls became properly shattered

...and I agree with this. Sure, it may not be specific to being blackpilled, but any great man be it artist or otherwise has to touch deep, and you can't do that if you're completely bluepilled.
Interesting read, makes a good point.
I've had dreams of doing that long ago in all honesty. While I was still bluepilled I've had the thought of either getting into comics, graphic novels, video games, or something where most of my ideas can be brought to life. A time when I've had motivation to do something and excelling.
The rejections over the years brought it down to just a hobby that I mostly enjoy now as I don't have anyone or anything to push me to strive.
Damn, can't believe lack of pussy and female affection has such a powerful effect on us. Still seems surreal even after all these years.
 
I've had dreams of doing that long ago in all honesty. While I was still bluepilled I've had the thought of either getting into comics, graphic novels, video games, or something where most of my ideas can be brought to life. A time when I've had motivation to do something and excelling.
The rejections over the years brought it down to just a hobby that I mostly enjoy now as I don't have anyone or anything to push me to strive.
yeah,i understand.these days i just pray to the lord to kill me after i do some things and i then procrastinate and don't do anything all day because i am too tired to even think.Life for an incel is a sad thing
 
yeah,i understand.these days i just pray to the lord to kill me after i do some things and i then procrastinate and don't do anything all day because i am too tired to even think.Life for an incel is a sad thing
The Lord wants you to live and to find beauty in the seemingly mundane or even arduous parts of life.
 
Good art usually comes from suffering, so yes
 
I stopped enjoying particular things since blackpill. So, idk. But one I can say for sure, is that if you start drawing for example. As you will get better you will enjoy it. As you see you can create something like that, you will feel proud imo. I want to write a book one day
Just write a book Theory
 

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