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Serious Is dating as a 30+ year old something desirable for you?

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It's just not desirable for me, specially as someone who desired to experience teen love and dreamed about it as a child.

For most men (both incels and non-incels) our best shot it's in our teens, it's the only time period in which guys with physical flaws can make it. A skater tall normie with acne can get a girlfriend a low-tier normie who plays the guitar and is an extroverted has a chance to get a girlfriend.

30+ dating is just a big conglomeration of planning schedules, wasting money, fights, men being dehumanized by their own couples because we're not "Mr. Right" (Chad who makes 100k each week), some kind of companionship and starfish sex and finally getting cucked or divorce raped....now compare that with all the benefits, joy and happiness that teen love can bring in your life.

I turned 20 a couple of weeks ago so If I'm not getting a gf in this decade I'll just pay for escorts twice a month when I hit 30, the juice ain't worth the squeeze at that point.
 
I wouldn’t ideally ltr with someone who could not produce a fair number of children (of course I could never ltr anyone do this is all fantasy). I’d really like a large family especially since I have a unique last name (as in there’s literally only two of us on earth, my father and I) and I’d like to see it grow through the generations :feelsmage:

this isn’t even to mention the flaming cesspit that the over 30 market is (like you mentioned).
 
only if i can be sure she's not looking for a betabux / to settle down
 
It's just not desirable for me, specially as someone who desired to experience teen love and dreamed about it as a child.

For most men (both incels and non-incels) our best shot it's in our teens, it's the only time period in which guys with physical flaws can make it. A skater tall normie with acne can get a girlfriend a low-tier normie who plays the guitar and is an extroverted has a chance to get a girlfriend.

30+ dating is just a big conglomeration of planning schedules, wasting money, fights, men being dehumanized by their own couples because we're not "Mr. Right" (Chad who makes 100k each week), some kind of companionship and starfish sex and finally getting cucked or divorce raped....now compare that with all the benefits, joy and happiness that teen love can bring in your life.

I turned 20 a couple of weeks ago so If I'm not getting a gf in this decade I'll just pay for escorts twice a month when I hit 30, the juice ain't worth the squeeze at that point.
i think that's just redpilled thinking, if you looksmax and she likes you it shouldn't be that way
 
I want to, but I know I don't stand a chance because competition is insane when you're 23+. You need to have a good stable job, be NT and look decent. You need all three to be at even be able to beta bux a girl below your looksmatch. Forget about true love-based relationships altogether if you're not Chad.
As you said, getting a girlfriend is much easier when you're a teenager because you don't need to have a job, a car, your own place etc. You just need to be at least average looking and you can somewhat pretend to be NT.

Women in the 23-30+ range are looking for ok-looking NT men with jobs, not poor unattractive losers like me.
I know I'll never have a good job because I'm aspie and I don't think I'll be able to finish college. I'm 24 and it's basically over for me. This is not just me giving up, this is me accepting facts. Why would any woman choose me over some decent looking NT guy with a college degree and a good job?
 
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Dating as 30+ yo = prepare to get cucked
 
I want to, but I know I'll never have a chance because competition is insane when you're 25+. You need to have a good stable job, be NT and look decent. You need all three to be at least beta bux or get a girl below your looksmatch.
As you said, getting a girlfriend is much easier when you're a teenager because you don't need to have a job, a car, your own place etc.

Women in the 23-30+ range are looking for ok-looking NT men with jobs, not poor unattractive losers like me.
I know I'll never have a good job because I'm aspie and I don't think I'll be able to finish college. I'm 24 and it's basically over for me.
:redpill::redpill::redpill::redpill:

its looks only boyo
 
:redpill::redpill::redpill::redpill:

its looks only boyo
If I had only looks, but I was still a poor aspie NEET I'd fuck every day and I'm aware of that, but I'm talking about regular NT guys. Those are the guys you're competing with if you want to be beta bux with a below looksmatch girlfriend/wife after you leave college. These guys get cucked all the time, but that's beside the point. OP is talking about dating or LTR when you're 30+. We all know what that means (beta bux.)

Women do settle eventually and when they do it's rarely going to be poor Chad or any kind of Chad because Chad rarely settles unless it's with a legit 8/10+ Stacey. Chad isn't going to settle with a below average girl.

Below average and average women are always looking for Chad with some money, a car etc. and if they do find one they'll dump their beta bux boyfriend. There's no question about it. Women are always looking to trade up which is why it's all just so pointless if you're not only sexually unattractive, but also poor/NEET or aspie.

This is why I'm saying I have no chance because not only am I not sexually attractive, I'm also poor and aspie. Again, I'm not denying that if I had looks I'd fuck every day. I'm perfectly aware of that. Normie men are in relationships too no matter how shitty those relationships are. I'm not a normie thus I know I don't have a chance at all.
 
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If I had only looks, but I was still a poor aspie NEET I'd fuck every day and I'm aware of that, but I'm talking about regular NT guys. Those are the guys you're competing with if you want to be beta bux with a below looksmatch girlfriend/wife after you leave college.

Women do settle eventually and when they do it's rarely going to be poor Chad unless she's already wealthy enough and besides Chads rarely settle unless it's with a legit 8/10+ Stacey. Chad isn't going to settle with a below average girl.
Below average and average women are always looking for Chad with some money, a car etc. and if they do find one they'll dump their beta bux boyfriend. There's no question about it. Women are always looking to trade up which is why it's all just so pointless if you're not only sexually unattractive, but also poor/NEET or aspie.

This is why I'm saying I have no chance because not only am I not sexually attractive, I'm also poor and aspie.

why the fuck would i want to be a betabux though? that's agaisnt the blackpill

the main flaw here is that you're comparing a legitimate relationship, in which the man and the woman are attracted to each other (for which the man has to be a chad), with betabuxing and the like

sure, most relationships after a certain age are betabux, because most males are sub8 so for them it's cope, rope or betabux (betabux being the worst of the three)

either you're chad or you'll never be loved, and money has no role in romantic relationships unless you want a fake one. you're adding in a factor in your analysis that just doesn't belong, if that makes sense
 
i think that's just redpilled thinking, if you looksmax and she likes you it shouldn't be that way
Not redpill at all, just standard blackpill.
The disadvantages outweight the benefits too much as an incel, she already had countless dates, hookups and sex while you scored your first date with her
I want to, but I know I don't stand a chance because competition is insane when you're 23+. You need to have a good stable job, be NT and look decent. You need all three to be at least beta bux or get a girl below your looksmatch.
As you said, getting a girlfriend is much easier when you're a teenager because you don't need to have a job, a car, your own place etc. You just need to be at least average looking and you can somewhat pretend to be NT.

Women in the 23-30+ range are looking for ok-looking NT men with jobs, not poor unattractive losers like me.
I know I'll never have a good job because I'm aspie and I don't think I'll be able to finish college. I'm 24 and it's basically over for me. This is not just me giving up, this is me accepting facts. Why would any woman choose me over some decent looking NT guy with a college degree and a good job?

Pretty good point, standards actually become higher at 30, it's just not Chad but socioeconomical successful Chad.
Men have our best chance as teens.
 
Not redpill at all, just standard blackpill.
The disadvantages outweight the benefits too much as an incel, she already had countless dates, hookups and sex while you scored your first date with her
imagine you were able to looksmaxx at 30 after a lifetime of being ugly (weird but its hypothetical), pastfrauded (aka lied about having had relationships etc), and got into a relationship with a woman whom you knew likes you and legit enjoys being with you (aka isn't thinking "well i've had my fun, lets settle down with this beta now"), what's wrong with that? the fact that she's been with other men before? ffs. volcel if that bothers you
 
why the fuck would i want to be a betabux though? that's agaisnt the blackpill
That's exactly my point. The vast majority of normie men are subservient beta bux. This is the only type of relationship a normie man can get when he's 23+. We all know what dating means when you're out of college. I can't even have that, though. I want to have a woman who loves me, but that's simply not possible, even for normie NT men with jobs. Normie NT men might have girlfriends or wives, but these men are not loved.

It's really over over for me. I can't even be a betabux, that's how over it is. A lot of guys here can be beta bux because they have a college degree, a decent job, car etc.

Basically, if you're around average looking you can have a crappy relationship IF and only if you're NT, have a college degree, car and your own place. You don't need all these things in high school, though. I have none of these things which means I have no reason to even think about dating in my late twenties and thirties. I know that I'll remain a virgin for the rest of my life unless I hire a whore. This is a fact.

Do you understand what I mean? I'm not denying the blackpill here. Obviously looks are the most important. If I was an 8/10 6'4" Lachowski looking guy women would approach me and fuck me on the same day.
Depending on what I want in life I might even choose to settle with an average girl and start a family. Me being poor wouldn't really matter because I'd look for average-looking women with a good job. Many average-looking women are willing to settle with a poor Chad. What is she going to do? Find a rich Chad? Very unlikely because she's average looking and wealthy Chads don't want to settle with an average girl. Basically if I was 8/10 6'4" I'd know I'd probably never get cucked.
 
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living till 30 is not desirable as an incel
 
That's exactly my point. The vast majority of normie men are subservient beta bux. This is the only type of relationship a normie man can get when he's 23+. We all know what dating means when you're out of college. I can't even have that, though. I want to have a woman who loves me, but that's simply not possible, even for normie NT men with jobs. It's really over over for me. I can't even be a betabux, that's how over it is.

Basically, if you're around average looking you can have a crappy relationship IF and only if you're NT, have a college degree, car and your own place. You don't need all these things in high school, though.

that's worse than being incel though. otherwise the blackpill mentality that its over would be obsolete. imagine if money could make women like you, that'd change the paradigm completely and we'd all just be working super hard to careermaxx
living till 30 is not desirable as an incel
too true :feelsbadman:
 
imagine you were able to looksmaxx at 30 after a lifetime of being ugly (weird but its hypothetical), pastfrauded (aka lied about having had relationships etc), and got into a relationship with a woman whom you knew likes you and legit enjoys being with you (aka isn't thinking "well i've had my fun, lets settle down with this beta now"), what's wrong with that? the fact that she's been with other men before? ffs. volcel if that bothers you

If you haven't looksmaxxed around your late teens to your mid 20s things won't be that much different at your 30s, some men start norwooding and others start gaining weight.

You don't suddenly develop a self-improvement gene at 30.

I'd feel very uncomfortable getting my first date at 30 and kinda dissapointed of myself.
I'd feel as weird as a 27 year old dude on his first day at junior high or as a 50 year old on his first day on a college campus...things like that feel very out of place
 
If you haven't looksmaxxed around your late teens to your mid 20s things won't be that much different at your 30s, some men start norwooding and others start gaining weight.

You don't suddenly develop a self-improvement gene at 30.

I'd feel very uncomfortable getting my first date at 30 and kinda dissapointed of myself.
I'd feel as weird as a 27 year old dude on his first day at junior high or as a 50 year old on his first day on a college campus...things like that feel very out of place
absolutely but we only get one chance at life so there's no other choice but to make the best of it

also it is plausible that someone could find out about the blackpill at 30 and stop being nice to women or jestermaxxxing and instead do plastic surgery and then be attractive. then he'd have his first date at 30 and the woman could be legit attracted to him. isnt that desirable as opposed to having nothing?
 
That's exactly my point. The vast majority of normie men are subservient beta bux. This is the only type of relationship a normie man can get when he's 23+. We all know what dating means when you're out of college. I can't even have that, though. I want to have a woman who loves me, but that's simply not possible, even for normie NT men with jobs. Normie NT men might have girlfriends or wives, but these men are not loved.

Dating at 20 and 23+ is not all that different, most college dudes are sexless, only high-tier normies and above get to enjoy parties, hookups and sex. For the average dude college is just study and hanging out with some friends if you're lucky.

Not to mention that girls develop a preference for Chad only at college, normies with physical flaws suddenly become incels too and don't have as much luck as they did at high school.
 
that's worse than being incel though. otherwise the blackpill mentality that its over would be obsolete. imagine if money could make women like you, that'd change the paradigm completely and we'd all just be working super hard to careermaxx

too true :feelsbadman:
I hope you now understand my mindset. I know normie men are in trash "relationships" in which they're forced to be subservient. If they even try to be the man of the house, they get dumped and the woman finds another more subservient beta bux.
We all know all women ultimately want to marry a Chad, preferably a wealthy Chad, but that rarely happens because why would any Chad, let alone wealthy Chad choose to marry a regular roastie? This is why many regular women settle with a subservient beta bux average looking NT guy.

If I remained the way I am now in regards to my education level and socioeconomic status, but suddenly became a 6'5" Gigachad I'd want to start a family and the best way to do that would be to find an average-looking woman with a good job. Since she's average it's highly unlikely she'll ever cuck me because she doesn't really have any better options.

I guess you're wondering would I be a self-aware beta bux if I was average-looking, NT, had a job, a car and my own place. I might be tempted and I honestly don't know. I'd like to think I wouldn't, but having a girlfriend/wife is tempting even if it's all just a big lie. We're all weak no matter how much we like to think we'd never be beta bux, but the reality is many of us can't be beta bux even if we wanted to. This is why I said it's pointless to even think about any kind of dating in my thirties. I have absolutely no chance whatsoever. I'm not competing, I'm automatically disqualified.
Dating at 20 and 23+ is not all that different, most college dudes are sexless, only high-tier normies and above get to enjoy parties, hookups and sex. For the average dude college is just study and hanging out with some friends if you're lucky.
Whatever. I said 23+ because that's when most normie men finish college and get a job, car etc. 20 or 23, it's really not that important and it's not vital to my argument. Three years is nothing. I understand that most men don't party or have regular sex in college. When they finish college, earn some money, get a car, their own place etc. this is when they start having a chance with women who are looking for beta bux NT men. Many normie NT men do eventually get married, but their wives are rarely sexually attracted to them which is why these marriages rarely last.

Again, I never said this is a good thing or that life gets better when you finish college. I never said the relationships these men are in are good, but normie men are NPCs and all they want is a wife and kids and they know what they need to do (finish college, get a job etc.) They'll do whatever it takes to find a wife and the best way they know how is to finnish college, get a decent job, car, house etc. Normie men think that's all it takes to have a stable marriage that lasts forever. They lack one vital thing, though. Raw sexual attractiveness.
the main flaw here is that you're comparing a legitimate relationship, in which the man and the woman are attracted to each other (for which the man has to be a chad), with betabuxing and the like
Am I, though? You're getting on my nerves now because you're trying to prove yourself on this site because you're a newfag. Quote me where I said that average-looking men are genuinely loved. Did I ever say that relationships Chad get are the same as beta bux relationships? It's like you're not even reading my replies.
Absolutely nothing I said is redpilled or bluepilled.
Normie NT men with jobs become beta bux. Chads have all kinds of options including love/attraction-based long term relationships. Did I ever deny this? Men like me have absolutely nothing. I have no options whatsoever. That is all I'm saying.
 
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I hope you now understand my mindset. I know normie men are in trash "relationships" in which they're forced to be subservient. If they even try to be the man of the house, they get dumped and the woman finds another more subservient beta bux.
We all know all women ultimately want to marry a Chad, preferably a wealthy Chad, but that rarely happens because why would any Chad, let alone wealthy Chad choose to marry a regular roastie? This is why many regular women settle with a subservient beta bux average looking NT guy.

If I remained the way I am now in regards to my education level and socioeconomic status, but suddenly became a 6'5" Gigachad I'd want to start a family and the best way to do that would be to find an average-looking woman with a good job. Since she's average it's highly unlikely she'll ever cuck me because she doesn't really have any better options.

I guess you're wondering would I be a self-aware beta bux if I was average-looking, NT, had a job, a car and my own place. I might be tempted and I honestly don't know. I'd like to think I wouldn't, but having a girlfriend/wife is tempting even if it's all just a big lie. We're all weak no matter how much we like to think we'd never be beta bux, but the reality is many of us can't be beta bux even if we wanted to. This is why I said it's pointless to even think about any kind of dating in my thirties. I have absolutely no chance whatsoever. I'm not competing, I'm automatically disqualified.

Whatever. I said 23+ because that's when most normie men finish college and get a job, car etc. 20 or 23, it's really not that important and it's not vital to my argument. Three years is nothing. I understand that most men don't party or have regular sex in college. When they finish college, earn some money, get a car, their own place etc. this is when they start having a chance with women who are looking for beta bux NT men. Many normie NT men do eventually get married, but their wives are rarely sexually attracted to them which is why these marriages rarely last.

Again, I never said this is a good thing or that life gets better when you finish college. I never said the relationships these men are in are good, but normie men are NPCs and all they want is a wife and kids and they know what they need to do (finish college, get a job etc.) They'll do whatever it takes to find a wife and the best way they know how is to finnish college, get a decent job, car, house etc. Normie men think that's all it takes to have a stable marriage that lasts forever. They lack one vital thing, though. Raw sexual attractiveness.

Am I, though? You're getting on my nerves now because you're trying to prove yourself on this site because you're a newfag. Quote me where I said that average-looking men are genuinely loved. Did I ever say that relationships Chad get are the same as beta bux relationships? It's like you're not even reading my replies.
Absolutely nothing I said is redpilled or bluepilled.
Normie NT men with jobs become beta bux. Chads have all kinds of options including love/attraction-based long term relationships. Did I ever deny this? Men like me have absolutely nothing. I have no options whatsoever. That is all I'm saying.

ok I understand what you mean now, chill bro, i didnt mean to be rude, im on this site to pass the time and cope, and even though my life is so miserable that at times i find myself trying to "prove myself" or caring about my popularity on incel forums, i do my best not to and it wasnt the case now, im sorry if i sounded rude

i will respond to your pm as well when i get a moment. i did read your posts completely

with this explanation it makes sense, but before, you were saying shit like "you need a job etc to get a gf" and it just sounded redpilled, because there's a huge distinction between betabux relationships and real relationships, and it sounded like you weren't accounting for that
 
with this explanation it makes sense, but before, you were saying shit like "you need a job etc to get a gf"
You definitely do need to be a normie, NT, have a job, a car, your own place and look at least average if you want the kind of relationship normie men have (the only kind non-Chad men can have.) I still don't see what's so controversial about this.

Obviously normie men don't get girlfriends based on their pure sexual attractiveness and there's no actual love involved (the guy loves her, the foid doesn't love him.) Mutual love and sexual attraction is for Chad only. All I'm saying is that if you're average looking, but you lack all the other things like a good job, NT, car etc. the only way you're going to have sex in life is if you hire a hooker.
How old are you if you don't mind answering?
there's a huge distinction between betabux relationships and real relationships
Definitely. This is why I often put quotation marks on the word relationship, but I forgot to this time. Normie men have "relationships", Chads have relationships.
"Relationships" are when the man is subservient and not allowed to actually be a man and the only reason he's in a "relationship" is because he has a job, car, house and spare money. There's no attraction here.
 
No but if a 30+ year old wanted to date me I'd feel pretty good about it since I have no money.
 
You definitely do need to be a normie, NT, have a job, a car, your own place and look at least average if you want the kind of relationship normie men have (the only kind non-Chad men can have.) I still don't see what's so controversial about this.

Obviously normie men don't get girlfriends based on their pure sexual attractiveness and there's no actual love involved (the guy loves her, the foid doesn't love him.) Mutual love and sexual attraction is for Chad only. All I'm saying is that if you're average looking, but you lack all the other things like a good job, NT, car etc. the only way you're going to have sex in life is if you hire a hooker.
How old are you if you don't mind answering?

Definitely. This is why I often put quotation marks on the word relationship, but I forgot to this time. Normie men have "relationships", Chads have relationships.
"Relationships" are when the man is subservient and not allowed to actually be a man and the only reason he's in a "relationship" is because he has a job, car, house and spare money. There's no attraction here.
27 :feelsbadman:
 
If you're around average-looking, NT, liberal/feminist/soy, have a decent job, car, your own place and you're extroverted you can be a beta bux cuck, congratulations.
Not only am I not average-looking, I don't have a job, I don't have a car, my own place, I'm not NT, I'm not liberal and I'm a depressed introverted loser. I am going to be a virgin for the rest of my life. I know this for a fact. I refuse to get a hooker.
 
I should have atleast 2 children by 30, no way at that age I would be chasing women, if I am single by that age I'll invest my time in some... more intEResting activities...
 
I hope you now understand my mindset. I know normie men are in trash "relationships" in which they're forced to be subservient. If they even try to be the man of the house, they get dumped and the woman finds another more subservient beta bux.
We all know all women ultimately want to marry a Chad, preferably a wealthy Chad, but that rarely happens because why would any Chad, let alone wealthy Chad choose to marry a regular roastie? This is why many regular women settle with a subservient beta bux average looking NT guy.

If I remained the way I am now in regards to my education level and socioeconomic status, but suddenly became a 6'5" Gigachad I'd want to start a family and the best way to do that would be to find an average-looking woman with a good job. Since she's average it's highly unlikely she'll ever cuck me because she doesn't really have any better options

Whatever. I said 23+ because that's when most normie men finish college and get a job, car etc. 20 or 23, it's really not that important and it's not vital to my argument. Three years is nothing. I understand that most men don't party or have regular sex in college. When they finish college, earn some money, get a car, their own place etc. this is when they start having a chance with women who are looking for beta bux NT men. Many normie NT men do eventually get married, but their wives are rarely sexually attracted to them which is why these marriages rarely last.

Again, I never said this is a good thing or that life gets better when you finish college. I never said the relationships these men are in are good, but normie men are NPCs and all they want is a wife and kids and they know what they need to do (finish college, get a job etc.) They'll do whatever it takes to find a wife and the best way they know how is to finnish college, get a decent job, car, house etc. Normie men think that's all it takes to have a stable marriage that lasts forever. They lack one vital thing, though. Raw sexual attractiveness.

Am I, though? You're getting on my nerves now because you're trying to prove yourself on this site because you're a newfag. Quote me where I said that average-looking men are genuinely loved. Did I ever say that relationships Chad get are the same as beta bux relationships? It's like you're not even reading my replies.
Absolutely nothing I said is redpilled or bluepilled.
Normie NT men with jobs become beta bux. Chads have all kinds of options including love/attraction-based long term relationships. Did I ever deny this? Men like me have absolutely nothing. I have no options whatsoever. That is all I'm saying.

Most men don't wanna marry at 23+, if you told me at 35+ it'd make more sense
 
Fuck no. If my life is still as horrible as it is now when I’m in my thirties I’m going to shoot myself. I’m not working my ass off just so I can beta-bux some old used up hag. Why put any effort into something other men get for free?
 
Most men don't wanna marry at 23+
Only because they still don't have enough assets. The ultimate goal for normie men is to get married. The only thing stopping them is money and assets. No one earns a lot and has their own place right out of college, especially in Europe.
The most common complaint from normie men in my country is how it's impossible to start a family before 28-30 because le bad economy, low wages etc.
 
I don't think I could, with the blackpill and how society is becoming I could not bring myself to do that. I haven't decided whether I want to improve my life, or even if I want to live until I'm 30+, but sure as hell I wont spend my money betabuxxing.
Fuck no. If my life is still as horrible as it is now when I’m in my thirties I’m going to shoot myself. I’m not working my ass off just so I can beta-bux some old used up hag.
 
I'll take a 55 year old.
 
sure im mid 30's where are all the virgin 30 foids at?
 
Fuck no. If my life is still as horrible as it is now when I’m in my thirties I’m going to shoot myself. I’m not working my ass off just so I can beta-bux some old used up hag. Why put any effort into something other men get for free?
Jokes, only chad truly get foids for free the top 5 or 10% of men..
And if they want their stacy looksmatch they gotta put effort to it...
So many normie relationship where the foid only stick around cos he pays for everything..
 
Only because they still don't have enough assets. The ultimate goal for normie men is to get married. The only thing stopping them is money and assets. No one earns a lot and has their own place right out of college, especially in Europe.
The most common complaint from normie men in my country is how it's impossible to start a family before 28-30 because le bad economy, low wages etc.

This argument held more true 15-25 years ago, but nowadays even the most male feminist soy chugging nu-male can recognize certain disadvantages and disparities that most men face in the sexual market, manosphere knowledge is quickly spreading as we speak, marrying at 25 is either a luxury that most men can't afford or a dream that's now a fantastic delusion
 
No what's the point.

5 years difference either way is the cut off for me.
 
but nowadays even the most male feminist soy chugging nu-male can recognize certain disadvantages and disparities that most men face in the sexual market
I couldn't disagree more. Liberal feminist soyboys think women live much harder lives than men. At least that's how "men" are in my country.
 
I missed out on teen love. It's going to crush me if I can't make love to a girl in her early to mid 20s while I'm in my 20s.
 
I couldn't disagree more. Liberal feminist soyboys think women live much harder lives than men. At least that's how "men" are in my country.

Oh, I'm talking about this new wave of intersectional feminists, while believing men live all their lives in opulence and luxury they also reckon "male struggle". Of course, we're still these privileged beings that systemically oppress women in all aspects of human activity...but according to intersectional we still need to be heard.
 
I would never fuck used up roasties, such greed.
 
It's just not desirable for me, specially as someone who desired to experience teen love and dreamed about it as a child.

For most men (both incels and non-incels) our best shot it's in our teens, it's the only time period in which guys with physical flaws can make it. A skater tall normie with acne can get a girlfriend a low-tier normie who plays the guitar and is an extroverted has a chance to get a girlfriend.

30+ dating is just a big conglomeration of planning schedules, wasting money, fights, men being dehumanized by their own couples because we're not "Mr. Right" (Chad who makes 100k each week), some kind of companionship and starfish sex and finally getting cucked or divorce raped....now compare that with all the benefits, joy and happiness that teen love can bring in your life.

I turned 20 a couple of weeks ago so If I'm not getting a gf in this decade I'll just pay for escorts twice a month when I hit 30, the juice ain't worth the squeeze at that point.

I'd honestly would rather choose death

they didn't want me when I was young

I don't want them when they're obese and full of STDs
 
I wouldn’t ideally ltr with someone who could not produce a fair number of children (of course I could never ltr anyone do this is all fantasy). I’d really like a large family especially since I have a unique last name (as in there’s literally only two of us on earth, my father and I) and I’d like to see it grow through the generations :feelsmage:

this isn’t even to mention the flaming cesspit that the over 30 market is (like you mentioned).
Youre going to die out sadly
 
if you're still a low level noob in life at 30, it's over
 
.now compare that with all the benefits, joy and happiness that teen love can bring in your life.
Tbh most teen stories i've heard of in my lifetime were hellish for the guy due to low smw you have in your teen while foids peak
 
At least once you're over 30 your hormones aren't raging as much and your sex drive is dropping from what it was.

Plus you're black pilled, women your age are post-wall and either settling down with a beta bux or a divorced single mum. You've already accepted your fate.
 

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