Serious Is Rape really such a bad thing?

[Caesercel]

Before the soyim piss their pants, hear me out on this one.

Rape in modern society is very different from what it originally was. The abhorrent and evil crime of rape was originally about defiling another man's woman thus cucking him and possibly impregnating his wife. Thus diminishing his rightful chance at a legitimate offspring. Consent(the base of modern concept of rape), doesn't come into the picture. Husbands in olden times never needed consent from their wife, sex was a duty to be fulfilled, for family and community. There were also conquerers wifing up conquered people's women. Still no consent.

We can easily see that throughout history, the women never actually chose who they're gonna fuck. Men competed and the winners got to take their pick.

Modern rape( the one based on lack of consent) is a recent feminist construct. According to that logic almost all sex, that got humanity to where it is now, the reason why we all exist, is rape. In fact certain radical feminist groups unironcally proclaim that all sex is rape, even when its consensual. They want women to abandon heterosexual partnership and procreate via sperm banks. More moderate feminists would say that earning consent by using the situations of a women is also rape. According to them, escorting, beta-buxxing, sugar-dady relationships are also rape where the rapist is forcing consent by using women in bad financial situation.

So I pose this question....Is rape, the way it is defined now, such a bad thing? It allowed men and women to procreate. Allowed humanity to grow and prosper instead of dying out. Allowed people to live fulfulling sexual lives and build families. Is it so bad that we don't want to give much concern to something fickle like "consent" and instead want redistribution of sexual opportunities among the masses?

 

[IamJacksBrokenHeart]

rape is rape

and rape is good sometmes

u gotta decide for yourself

 

[Deleted member 13785]

This is why people hate us. What used to happen before is not relevant now, we've evolved. Yes men would go around raping women, but they'd also fight and kill other men in the process. Saying rape isn't bad because that's how it used to be is like saying we should go back to times when men fought and killed each other for women. I guess some people here would think that that's the way it should be, what do I know.

 

[PPEcel]

Rape isn't. I think it's only marginally worse than a particularly brutal physical assault. Which...isn't great either, to be fair, but rape is not something that should warrant a significantly harsher criminal penalty than, say, causing grievous bodily harm.

Obviously the rape of a child is significantly more depraved than raping an adult; as is the case for physically abusing a child.

 

[Caesercel]

This is why people hate us. What used to happen before is not relevant now, we've evolved. Yes men would go around raping women, but they'd also fight and kill other men in the process. Saying rape isn't bad because that's how it used to be is like saying we should go back to times when men fought and killed each other for women. I guess some people here would think that that's the way it should be, what do I know.

The sex between a husband and wife is rape as well. As the husband is using patriarchal oppression to force sex upon a women who'd rather fuck chad(5% of men).
Is that arrangement also unwanted according to you?

 

[NuclearCel]

This is why people hate us. What used to happen before is not relevant now, we've evolved. Yes men would go around raping women, but they'd also fight and kill other men in the process. Saying rape isn't bad because that's how it used to be is like saying we should go back to times when men fought and killed each other for women. I guess some people here would think that that's the way it should be, what do I know.

We got a lot of people here who think actual rape is fine. You put those people and their family in that situation and you will see how quickly their opinions change.

 

[Shin no Shi]

Before the soyim piss their pants, hear me out on this one.

Rape in modern society is very different from what it originally was. The abhorrent and evil crime of rape was originally about defiling another man's woman thus cucking him and possibly impregnating his wife. Thus diminishing his rightful chance at a legitimate offspring. Consent(the base of modern concept of rape), doesn't come into the picture. Husbands in olden times never needed consent from their wife, sex was a duty to be fulfilled, for family and community. There were also conquerers wifing up conquered people's women. Still no consent.

We can easily see that throughout history, the women never actually chose who they're gonna fuck. Men competed and the winners got to take their pick.

Modern rape( the one based on lack of consent) is a recent feminist construct. According to that logic almost all sex, that got humanity to where it is now, the reason why we all exist, is rape. In fact certain radical feminist groups unironcally proclaim that all sex is rape, even when its consensual. They want women to abandon heterosexual partnership and procreate via sperm banks. More moderate feminists would say that earning consent by using the situations of a women is also rape. According to them, escorting, beta-buxxing, sugar-dady relationships are also rape where the rapist is forcing consent by using women in bad financial situation.

So I pose this question....Is rape, the way it is defined now, such a bad thing? It allowed men and women to procreate. Allowed humanity to grow and prosper instead of dying out. Allowed people to live fulfulling sexual lives and build families. Is it so bad that we don't want to give much concern to something fickle like "consent" and instead want redistribution of sexual opportunities among the masses?

Only person to define that is yourself tbh. To some the thought of it being thrown back at them is disgusting, whilst others will see the thrill and enjoy it, even it comes back at them. Just like a serial killer finds the pleasure in killing those that fit his category. A rapist will fondle the idea of raping a vulnerable women. Then the soys will say something where they will persecute those that find it as a hobby, but what's funny is that they possibly wouldn't mind doing it for themselves unto their enemies i.e. the insults women throw at us and IT throw at us to the point of having us lynched. Thus those with virtue are only hiding an even larger hidden self that they won't know exists, just like Jung states about inner demons but that's the only thing I'd ever agree with that slime.

 

[Caesercel]

Rape isn't. I think it's marginally worse than a brutal physical assault. Which...isn't great either, to be fair, but rape is not something that should warrant a significantly harsher criminal penalty than, say, grievous bodily harm.

Yes rape where a man hurts a woman should be a crime. It is a little more worse than assault. But in a world running rampant with whores with 20+ body counts. Where birth control flow like water. Is it still such a crime. And certain kind of "rape" like a woman fulfilling a duty to her husband or an escort serving a unwiliingly serving a client she is not attracted to should not be considered crime at all.

 

[Deleted member 13785]

The sex between a husband and wife is rape as well. As the husband is using patriarchal oppression to force sex upon a women who'd rather fuck chad(5% of men).
Is that arrangement also unwanted according to you?

If she says it's unwanted then yes it's unwanted.

 

[PPEcel]

Yes rape where a man hurts a woman should be a crime. It is a little more worse than assault. But in a world running rampant with whores with 20+ body counts. Where birth control flow like water. Is it still such a crime. And certain kind of "rape" like a woman fulfilling a duty to her husband or an escort serving a unwiliingly serving a client she is not attracted to should not be considered crime at all.

I'm not going to comment on marital rape because I haven't looked into that at all.

Fucking a whore isn't rape at all. By accepting your money she has implicitly consented to a certain set of acts.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

If she says it's unwanted then yes it's unwanted.

so is that bad? should we just have all women fuck only chads then?

 

[Caesercel]

If she says it's unwanted then yes it's unwanted.

Then why are you even here? If you really are an incel then women have rejected you by choice. And you have no right to be angry at them or feminism for it.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I think it's bad because I wouldn't want it to happen to me, so I also don't wish it upon anybody else. Granted the argument could be made that a man being raped by another man is worse than a woman being raped by a man, but that doesn't mean that the latter isn't bad. There is a lot of shit which is intrinsic to our nature which is pretty nasty ngl.

However I'd agree that rape is probably usually not as bad as it's made out to be. I mean being intentionally tortured or killed in a particularly painful way seems far worse.

 

[Caesercel]

We got a lot of people here who think actual rape is fine. You put those people and their family in that situation and you will see how quickly their opinions change.

I am against sexual assault, if that is what you are implying. But there are reasons why these things are considered so abhorrent. And those reasons are floundered daily in modern era. Would you rather allow women to have a choice and become cumdumpsters for chad?

so is that bad? should we just have all women fuck only chads then?

exactly what I was saying

 

[Deleted member 13785]

so is that bad? should we just have all women fuck only chads then?

Then why are you even here? If you really are an incel then women have rejected you by choice. And you have no right to be angry at them or feminism for it.

I'm not angry at them, they have better options than me. I would fuck the hottest woman I could get as well, that's human nature. I'm upset at the system that incentives for women to only fuck the top tier men and rewards them for having bastard children. I'm upset at women but what they're doing is completely logical, what's not logical is why there are no legal brothels for us to go to, why single mothers get free money, that's the shit I'm angry about.

 

[Caesercel]

I think it's bad because I wouldn't want it to happen to me, so I also don't wish it upon anybody else. Granted the argument could be made that a man being raped by another man is worse than a woman being raped by a man, but that doesn't mean that the latter isn't bad. There is a lot of shit which is intrinsic to our nature which is pretty nasty ngl.

However I'd agree that rape is probably usually not as bad as it's made out to be. I mean being intentionally tortured or killed in a particularly painful way seems far worse.

There are a lot of things about humanity that are less than savory. The fact that we got to wageslave for rich billionare chads is bullshit as well.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

I'm not angry at them, they have better options than me. I would fuck the hottest woman I could get as well, that's human nature. I'm upset at the system that incentives for women to only fuck the top tier men and rewards them for having bastard children. I'm angry and upset at women but what they're doing is completely logical, what's not logical is why there are no legal brothels for us to go to, why single mothers get free money, that's the shit I'm angry about.

well you agree women shouldn't only fuck chads

but then that is unwanted, and by your definition rape

 

[Justice Bao]

this discussion is a good example that everthing is relative. there is no good, no evil, no morals. everything is viewed differently in the eyes of the individual

 

[NuclearCel]

I am against sexual assault, if that is what you are implying. But there are reasons why these things are considered so abhorrent. And those reasons are floundered daily in modern era. Would you rather allow women to have a choice and become cumdumpsters for chad?

A majority of women already are chad cumdump. But it is by their own choice. Rape is the act of forcing a choice upon an individual. Sure, you can go ahead and try to do that but it will come with severe consequences. I dont think roastie pussy is worth destroying my life over but hey, everyones got their own opinions. We got massive simps on this forums who will do just about anything for pussy, even after reading and understanding the blackpill.

 

[Deleted member 13785]

well you agree women shouldn't only fuck chads

but then that is unwanted, and by your definition rape

Just because she's not fucking Chad doesn't mean she doesn't want it. I might not fuck a 10/10 woman but I'd be more than happy with a 7/10.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Just because she's not fucking Chad doesn't mean she doesn't want it. I might not fuck a 10/10 woman but I'd be more than happy with a 7/10.

women are hypergamous, any man beneath 6.5/10 is seen as ugly by them

men meanwhile are attracted to majority of women if they aren't fat

 

[Caesercel]

I'm not angry at them, they have better options than me. I would fuck the hottest woman I could get as well, that's human nature. I'm upset at the system that incentives for women to only fuck the top tier men and rewards them for having bastard children. I'm upset at women but what they're doing is completely logical, what's not logical is why there are no legal brothels for us to go to, why single mothers get free money, that's the shit I'm angry about.

You are upset at this system. But the system that allows you to get a woman would be considered that of a patriarchal rapist. This is contradictory. If you actually support the current system where women can congregate to top tier men then the only thing you have right to be upset about is, you were not one of those men.
Thus there is nothing you could possibly do. I am sorry but this thinking is too pussy. Its like a poor serf saying he deserves it for not being born with god's royal grace.

 

[blueface Blueface]

Low IQ post.

If you wouldn't like to be held down and fucked against your will don't do it to others.

Moneymaxx and escortcel.

 

[Tenshi]

not really tbh

 

[Made in Heaven]

according to r/rapekink, r/rape, and r/struggle fucking?

No

 

[epillepsy]

If she's a virgin, it's bad.
But if she's a whore and it's dick #54968596, it's not a big deal, about as bad as assault.

 

[PPEcel]

well you agree women shouldn't only fuck chads

but then that is unwanted, and by your definition rape

Think we need to distinguish between legal consent and whatever counts as "unwanted" in the feminist handbook

women are hypergamous, any man beneath 6.5/10 is seen as ugly by them

men meanwhile are attracted to majority of women if they aren't fat

im attracted only to your sisters

 

[Deleted member 23682]

im attracted only to your sisters

you haven't even seen them

 

[Caesercel]

Sure, you can go ahead and try to do that but it will come with severe consequences.

Not if it is done in a civilized manner. Traditional marriage is one example. Roasties actually had to fuck men bellow their looksmatch. Blackpill tells us that the roastie doesn't want that guy and so it would be rape. But there are little consequence cuz the system is not build by cucks.

 

[PPEcel]

you haven't even seen them

skinny white foid with green eyes

cant really go wrong

 

[Deleted member 23682]

skinny white foid with green eyes

cant really go wrong

one has green the other blue

 

[Caesercel]

women are hypergamous, any man beneath 6.5/10 is seen as ugly by them

men meanwhile are attracted to majority of women if they aren't fat

The only reason humanity got this far is cuz women never really had a choice on the matter of reproduction.

 

[universallyabhorred]

It's not bad at all, it's completely natural and righteous. But don't just take my word for it. Look at this based non-incel debate forum, the majority of people agree (including women) that rape should be legal. Bottom 2 show even women like rape.

 

[PPEcel]

one has green the other blue

oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh goooooddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

ok seriously I've never fucked a whore with green eyes before, it's on my bucket list

 

[Caesercel]

Low IQ post.

If you wouldn't like to be held down and fucked against your will don't do it to others.

Moneymaxx and escortcel.

Choice can be manuafactured under the right circumstances. Escorting ,as you mentioned is one example.

 

[mhhcookies]

rape is good sometmes

 

[Deleted member 23682]

It's not bad at all, it's completely natural and righteous. But don't just take my word for it. Look at this based non-incel debate forum, the majority of people agree (including women) that rape should be legal. Bottom 2 show even women like rape.
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gigabased and high iq

 

[Caesercel]

Think we need to distinguish between legal consent and whatever counts as "unwanted" in the feminist handbook


im attracted only to your sisters

Whatever is considered "unwanted" in feminist handbook will soon make it to the legal status. Remember, marital rape was never really a thing until it became one

 

[Deleted member 18193]

This is why people hate us. What used to happen before is not relevant now, we've evolved. Yes men would go around raping women, but they'd also fight and kill other men in the process. Saying rape isn't bad because that's how it used to be is like saying we should go back to times when men fought and killed each other for women. I guess some people here would think that that's the way it should be, what do I know.

We got a lot of people here who think actual rape is fine. You put those people and their family in that situation and you will see how quickly their opinions change.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Remember, marital rape was never really a thing until it became one

Marital rape is the biggest meme there is, it's complete nonsense. Consent is already implied within marriage, that's the entire point, you intend to have sex and probably have children with that person. By being married you've already consented to sex.

 

[Caesercel]

If she's a virgin, it's bad.
But if she's a whore and it's dick #54968596, it's not a big deal, about as bad as assault.

But that's the thing. Raping virgin is bad exactly cuz she is another man's rightful first. But the modern gynocentric system spits on this very concept

 

[dirtykombatcel]

this discussion is a good example that everthing is relative. there is no good, no evil, no morals. everything is viewed differently in the eyes of the individual

women bad

 

[Caesercel]

. Consent is already implied within marriage,

Not according to the law in most western countries.

 

[epillepsy]

But that's the thing. Raping virgin is bad exactly cuz she is another man's rightful first. But the modern gynocentric system spits on this very concept

Right. You would be forced not to marry a raped foid and that ruins both the man and the foid's day. In Titus Andronicus, Titus is obliged to kill his daughter Lavinia according to law because she was a virgin who was raped. In that case, raping Lavinia was akin to murdering her.

But when the foid is promiscuous, it's a different story. Foids like to say sex isn't a big deal, then how is rape a big deal?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Not according to the law in most western countries.

The laws are cucked tbh.

 

[Caesercel]

.

It doesn't have to be violent and unsavory. Civilized redistribution of sexual resources is possible. Women could be raised to be dutiful, even to men like us that they biologically repel. Read the thread

didn't read, i 100% condone rape.

of course.
@Edmund_Kemper your thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 18193]

It doesn't have to be violent and unsavory. Civilized redistribution of sexual resources is possible. Women could be raised to be dutiful, even to men like us that they biologically repel.

Tbh, If they could be taught to also enjoy sex with genetically inferior subhumans like us, that would be a good thing. We'd have to drastically change the current society in order for that to happen

 

[MaxZM98]

throughout history, women have gained standing in society because of sex. without sex, women are essentially lesser men, and would have been treated as such. their ability to offer (or deny) sex to men is how they gained their worth/value, and gave them significant power in society. men would treat them better, and give them higher positions in society because of this.

when a woman is raped, this takes her power away, and returns her to the level of a 'lesser man'. men wouldn't give women special treatment in the hopes of getting sex if they can just force her to have sex anyways. the reason why rape is so 'traumatising' for a woman is because it strips her of her role as the 'gatekeeper' of sex. being stripped of this power affects women on a deep psychological level, as it questions the power she has over men, as well as the entire gynocentric order in society.

women did not earn this power; they only have it because they were born with a vagina, whereas men have to gain their power/value through working hard to earn status/money. this is a fundamental inequality which is fundamental to gynocentrism. women are human beings, men are human doings.

ultimately, rape (as it is defined today) is only bad because it takes away the sense of power women have over men, and so shouldn't be treated as such a horrific crime.

 

[PPEcel]

throughout history, women have gained standing in society because of sex. without sex, women are essentially lesser men, and would have been treated as such. their ability to offer (or deny) sex to men is how they gained their worth/value, and gave them significant power in society. men would treat them better, and give them higher positions in society because of this.

when a woman is raped, this takes her power away, and returns her to the level of a 'lesser man'. men wouldn't give women special treatment in the hopes of getting sex if they can just force her to have sex anyways. the reason why rape is so 'traumatising' for a woman is because it strips her of her role as the 'gatekeeper' of sex. being stripped of this power affects women on a deep psychological level, as it questions the power she has over men, as well as the entire gynocentric order in society.

women did not earn this power; they only have it because they were born with a vagina, whereas men have to gain their power/value through working hard to earn status/money. this is a fundamental inequality which is fundamental to gynocentrism. women are human beings, men are human doings.

ultimately, rape (as it is defined today) is only bad because it takes away the sense of power women have over men, and so shouldn't be treated as such a horrific crime.

High IQ

 

[Caesercel]

Tbh, If they could be taught to also enjoy sex with genetically inferior subhumans like us, that would be a good thing. We'd have to drastically change the current society in order for that to happen

That's for sure. But the way things are, anyone condoning such a system would be branded as a rapist enabler the way things are defined.
Also I wouldn't use the word "enjoy" but "tolerate with a sense of duty" or maybe enjoy on a psychological level. They would always find us unwanted deep down unless we literally genetically modify them. But never forget, it is still rape(a milder version) according to modern standards

throughout history, women have gained standing in society because of sex. without sex, women are essentially lesser men, and would have been treated as such. their ability to offer (or deny) sex to men is how they gained their worth/value, and gave them significant power in society. men would treat them better, and give them higher positions in society because of this.

when a woman is raped, this takes her power away, and returns her to the level of a 'lesser man'. men wouldn't give women special treatment in the hopes of getting sex if they can just force her to have sex anyways. the reason why rape is so 'traumatising' for a woman is because it strips her of her role as the 'gatekeeper' of sex. being stripped of this power affects women on a deep psychological level, as it questions the power she has over men, as well as the entire gynocentric order in society.

women did not earn this power; they only have it because they were born with a vagina, whereas men have to gain their power/value through working hard to earn status/money. this is a fundamental inequality which is fundamental to gynocentrism. women are human beings, men are human doings.

ultimately, rape (as it is defined today) is only bad because it takes away the sense of power women have over men, and so shouldn't be treated as such a horrific crime.

Its the only power and value they have. The power responsible for the shitty state we are in