A continuation of these threads.
This one's a little later than the others because I actually had trouble remembering the world and my life before this forum. I hate these times we live in, but the only things I know of these times are limited to 2018 and later. So, what 2017 better? How about you? Think hard about it. Do you really remember what life was like, yours and in general, in 2017?
Where did you spend your time? Where was your main Internet hangout? Because for most of 2017, this forum didn't exist. But you might've been on r/Incels. I wasn't, but I know a few people here were. A few people here were mods there. There's a lot of talk about the glory days when there was an r/Incels. And if you wanna look at r/Incels, a lot of the content posted there is still up on Imgur.
So was 2017 better? From what I can find, r/Incels was a bit different from Incels.co. Like, in policy. People like to talk about AmericanGal1996 and how she became a mod on r/Incels. People like to talk about her like she was a fluke, and that r/Incels was more or less the same as this forum in demographics. But I think I disagree. Looking back, r/Incels was not that far removed from r/foreveralone. They both were mostly limited to "Women can be incel too, but it's different because the sexual marketplace for heterosexual women is different than it is for heterosexual men." It even says as much in the sidebar.
EDIT: And that's a revised version, later in the subreddit's life. With more specific wording so as to be stricter than the more nebulous and therefore more open original version.
I wasn't on r/Incels so I only have research in hindsight to look at. But what it looks like to me is, women weren't just allowed, but they were fawned over. Moreso than they were on r/foreveralone, I'd even say. In the time I was on r/foreveralone I didn't see any simping like this. One "ASK_ME_IF_I_VAPE" laments the inactivity of randytaylor69, a pretty YouTube singer he likes.
As far as threats to the actual existence of the subreddit, it looks like r/Incels was going along pretty well for a while. The biggest worry was brigading, and whether they were being too nice to women. But then Reddit drafted some new "anti-violence policy." And r/Incels was accused of being in violation of that policy. A fight that Azavii was at the forefront of.
I think it's Azavii that people remember when they think of that "incel purity" past of r/Incels. In the absence of Azavii, r/Incels had entirely different DNA from Incels.co. It was only free to become closer to what Incels.co looks like late in its life, after Azavii was essentially the subreddit's "savior."
So I don't think most of us were on r/Incels either. Most of us would've hated it. I think Incels.co is the way it is, as a direct response to the what r/Incels was. It wasn't a place where one woman got lucky once. It was different enough that the founders here said "Some things are going to have to change. Some kinda of people and content will have to not be allowed."
So if you weren't on r/Incels, what were you doing on the Internet in 2017? What community did you belong to before Dotco? And how did you find out about this forum?
Come to think of it, where exactly did Sarge and Master and everyone else come from to create this place? Who are they? Do they have any history in the community? What were THEY doing on the Internet in 2017?
This one's a little later than the others because I actually had trouble remembering the world and my life before this forum. I hate these times we live in, but the only things I know of these times are limited to 2018 and later. So, what 2017 better? How about you? Think hard about it. Do you really remember what life was like, yours and in general, in 2017?
Where did you spend your time? Where was your main Internet hangout? Because for most of 2017, this forum didn't exist. But you might've been on r/Incels. I wasn't, but I know a few people here were. A few people here were mods there. There's a lot of talk about the glory days when there was an r/Incels. And if you wanna look at r/Incels, a lot of the content posted there is still up on Imgur.
So was 2017 better? From what I can find, r/Incels was a bit different from Incels.co. Like, in policy. People like to talk about AmericanGal1996 and how she became a mod on r/Incels. People like to talk about her like she was a fluke, and that r/Incels was more or less the same as this forum in demographics. But I think I disagree. Looking back, r/Incels was not that far removed from r/foreveralone. They both were mostly limited to "Women can be incel too, but it's different because the sexual marketplace for heterosexual women is different than it is for heterosexual men." It even says as much in the sidebar.
EDIT: And that's a revised version, later in the subreddit's life. With more specific wording so as to be stricter than the more nebulous and therefore more open original version.
I wasn't on r/Incels so I only have research in hindsight to look at. But what it looks like to me is, women weren't just allowed, but they were fawned over. Moreso than they were on r/foreveralone, I'd even say. In the time I was on r/foreveralone I didn't see any simping like this. One "ASK_ME_IF_I_VAPE" laments the inactivity of randytaylor69, a pretty YouTube singer he likes.
As far as threats to the actual existence of the subreddit, it looks like r/Incels was going along pretty well for a while. The biggest worry was brigading, and whether they were being too nice to women. But then Reddit drafted some new "anti-violence policy." And r/Incels was accused of being in violation of that policy. A fight that Azavii was at the forefront of.
I think it's Azavii that people remember when they think of that "incel purity" past of r/Incels. In the absence of Azavii, r/Incels had entirely different DNA from Incels.co. It was only free to become closer to what Incels.co looks like late in its life, after Azavii was essentially the subreddit's "savior."
So I don't think most of us were on r/Incels either. Most of us would've hated it. I think Incels.co is the way it is, as a direct response to the what r/Incels was. It wasn't a place where one woman got lucky once. It was different enough that the founders here said "Some things are going to have to change. Some kinda of people and content will have to not be allowed."
So if you weren't on r/Incels, what were you doing on the Internet in 2017? What community did you belong to before Dotco? And how did you find out about this forum?
Come to think of it, where exactly did Sarge and Master and everyone else come from to create this place? Who are they? Do they have any history in the community? What were THEY doing on the Internet in 2017?
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