[Discussion] Marital rape

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I think is huge lie and injustice to punish a guy for marital rape.

I mean the concept of rape and it it's legal definition was made to protect foids to protect her reproductive ability. So that she can trade it with man for his resources , this is the unwritten idea of marriage.

Ok we can say that to an extent a husband should nt force his wife. But the wife can deny him sex forever. It's her obligation to fulfil his needs regardless of 'her mood'. In my opinion If she get traumatized by when her husband has sex with her then there is something wrong with her mental makeup and it should be dealt by a sexologist . Rather than getting the state to involve in the matter and punishing the husband.

As I said before 'rape' is just legal term we can't apply it to every situation. For eg 'murder' is a crime. But we don't punish soliders for murdering terrorist. The act is the same but the Context differs.
 
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Murder isn't simply the act of killing a person. That's why killing someone in war isn't murder. But forcing yourself against someone's consent is always rape. We punish rape because you shouldn't make someone have sex if they don't want to have it with you.
 
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Yikes! Dis is why you inkwell!
 
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Murder isn't simply the act of killing a person. That's why killing someone in war isn't murder. But forcing yourself against someone's consent is always rape. We punish rape because you shouldn't make someone have sex if they don't want to have it with you.
Then what is murder? .

Tell me a reason why a wife won't consent to her husband?
 
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Then what is murder? .

Tell me a reason why a wife won't consent to her husband?
Killing enemy combatants and the capitally punished are okay, because we have laws and agreements that allow for it. We have terms of engagement in war that say "Okay, we agree, killing each other is fair game because this is a fight and we need to defend ourselves." We have a penal system that says "When people do bad things, they should be punished for it. So it's fair to kill someone if they do something especially bad."

We have laws that say criminals deserve to be punished. We have no laws that say a spouse must obey their other spouse.
 
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in the Quran it says that a wife can’t deny sex from her husband.
 
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in the Quran it says that a wife can’t deny sex from her husband.
Islam is not blackpilled, there is nothing blackpilled about praying to an invisible man in the sky.
 
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Killing enemy combatants and the capitally punished are okay, because we have laws and agreements that allow for it. We have terms of engagement in war that say "Okay, we agree, killing each other is fair game because this is a fight and we need to defend ourselves." We have a penal system that says "When people do bad things, they should be punished for it. So it's fair to kill someone if they do something especially bad."

We have laws that say criminals deserve to be punished. We have no laws that say a spouse must obey their other spouse.
Ha...you don't get it do you?. That's why it's said its and unwritten rule in marriage that foid exchanges reproductive ablility for a mans resources, evolutionary speaking.

My argument is that marital rape shoud be taken any way. The state should nt legally interfere with what's happens inside the bedroom of a married couple. If there is sexual incompatibility between couples it should be dealt by a doctor professionally. Not punishing the husband for his urges.

By your arguments you seem to be ok it tomorrow if rape defention is made to inculde 'accidental skin contact with a ugly male' you seem no problem in following it.

Just remember this one thing 'laws are made for humans ,humans arent made for the law'
Are you against my point?
 
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If you are married to her, she's yours.
End of discussion.
 
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Ha...you don't get it do you?. That's why it's said its and unwritten rule in marriage that foid exchanges reproductive ablility for a mans resources, evolutionary speaking.

My argument is that marital rape shoud be taken any way. The state should nt legally interfere with what's happens inside the bedroom of a married couple. If there is sexual incompatibility between couples it should be dealt by a doctor professionally. Not punishing the husband for his urges.

By your arguments you seem to be ok it tomorrow if rape defention is made to inculde 'accidental skin contact with a ugly male' you seem no problem in following it.

Just remember this one thing 'laws are made for humans ,humans arent made for the law'
I'm not saying "Accidental skin contact is illegal" should be a law, it's not a law that makes sense. We base our laws around what, as far as we can agree on, is fair and not fair. We were able to agree, at least mostly, that criminals should be punished. Society at this point can't agree that a wife owes her husband anything. Society at this point does not agree that marriage is a contract a woman enters into so she can be protected. Society at this point means for marriage to be an equal partnership. So to say "As the man's property you owe him your sex" is not something society will ever agree on. Because we believe in autonomy for consenting adults.
 
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But the wife can deny him sex forever
that's where you're wrong kiddo
there's thousands of dead bedrooms out there
most of those women are fucking a side Chad though
and the cuck hubbies are too stupid enough to figure it out
 
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Why marry when you won't let your husband put pee in vee
 
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But the wife can deny him sex forever. It's her obligation to fulfil his needs regardless of 'her mood'. In my opinion If she get traumatized by when her husband has sex with her then there is something wrong with her mental makeup and it should be dealt by a sexologist . Rather than getting the state to involve in the matter and punishing the husband.
Unironically it actually is - no joke.

To begin, I'd just like to say if on the altar when the bride and groom are getting married, the groom was to say:

"I,name, take you, name, to be my husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, WITH ABSOLUTELY NO SEX, till death us do part, according to God's holy law, in the presence of God I make this vow.
No sane man on the face of this earth would go on any further - the wedding would end there.
A couple/dating is merely a friendship where man and woman love each other - especially sexually.

A few members here have friends. They're not attracted to them sexually, but they're friends. If you develop sexual interest in a woman, she's not going to be just your "friend".


in the Quran it says that a wife can’t deny sex from her husband.
Even within the bible, it speaks strongly against a man or woman with-holding sex from their spouse.

The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. - 1 Corinthians 7:3-4

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” - Ephesians
5:22-29


That's the problem with modern marriage especially a large amount of Christians - who are leading the divorce rate compared to other religions:



The mutual loving dynamic doesn't exist.
Foids want complete control over their own body as they think submitting to a man is patriarchial (thanks feminism) and when guys do all within their power to love their wife, It fails because the wife is being a stuck up bitch and the guy is effectively living with a child.

In response to the OP, Marital "rape" can possibly exist, but I'd be more interested in the circumstances surrounding it.
If the guy has had sex in the past 36 hours and couldn't go a few more hours because his wife was "tired" then yeah - marital rape.
If the guy has been trying for weeks/months/years to get any form of intimacy out of his wife, tried to be loving and understanding yet she's acting like a cunt like the rest of the female population: I'll 100% defend the guy and within Christian terms, he has every right to a divorce as she's effectively not fufilling her marital duties.

Tldr: Martial Rape wouldn't exist if foids weren't childish cunts and could create a strong communication with their husband.


Go on reddit r/deadbedrooms or r/Christianmarriage.

Anytime a guy complains about the wife not putting out? YTA. SEXIST PIG. She might be: <Insert medical symptom>, HER HORMONES, SHE MAY BE SAD, HOW DO YOU TREAT HER, DO YOU SHOW HER YOU LOVE HER?
It's always the guys fault.

Anytime a woman complains about the guy not putting out? YOU DESERVE BETTER, HE'S A SELF-CENTERED PIG. HE PROBABLY WATCHES PORN.
It's always the guys fault.


Honestly, getting married is probably the best way to ensure that end up severely mentally, financially and psychologically shafted with the only escape being suicide.
 
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I'm not saying "Accidental skin contact is illegal" should be a law, it's not a law that makes sense. We base our laws around what, as far as we can agree on, is fair and not fair. We were able to agree, at least mostly, that criminals should be punished. Society at this point can't agree that a wife owes her husband anything. Society at this point does not agree that marriage is a contract a woman enters into so she can be protected. Society at this point means for marriage to be an equal partnership. So to say "As the man's property you owe him your sex" is not something society will ever agree on. Because we believe in autonomy for consenting adults.
But socit
Unironically it actually is - no joke.

To begin, I'd just like to say if on the altar when the bride and groom are getting married, the groom was to say:



No sane man on the face of this earth would go on any further - the wedding would end there.
A couple/dating is merely a friendship where man and woman love each other - especially sexually.

A few members here have friends. They're not attracted to them sexually, but they're friends. If you develop sexual interest in a woman, she's not going to be just your "friend".




Even within the bible, it speaks strongly against a man or woman with-holding sex from their spouse.

The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. - 1 Corinthians 7:3-4

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” - Ephesians
5:22-29


That's the problem with modern marriage especially a large amount of Christians - who are leading the divorce rate compared to o
ther religions:



The mutual loving dynamic do

In response to the OP, Marital "rape" can possibly exist, but I'd be more interested in the circumstances surrounding it.
If the guy has had sex in the past 36 hours and couldn't go a few more hours because his wife was "tired" then yeah - marital rape.
Unironically it actually is - no joke.

To begin, I'd just like to say if on the altar when the bride and groom are getting married, the groom was to say:



No sane man on the face of this earth would go on any further - the wedding would end there.
A couple/dating is merely a friendship where man and woman love each other - especially sexually.

A few members here have friends. They're not attracted to them sexually, but they're friends. If you develop sexual interest in a woman, she's not going to be just your "friend".




Even within the bible, it speaks strongly against a man or woman with-holding sex from their spouse.

The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. - 1 Corinthians 7:3-4

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” - Ephesians
5:22-29


That's the problem with modern marriage especially a large amount of Christians - who are leading the divorce rate compared to other religions:



The mutual loving dynamic doesn't exist.
Foids want complete control over their own body as they think submitting to a man is patriarchial (thanks feminism) and when guys do all within their power to love their wife, It fails because the wife is being a stuck up bitch and the guy is effectively living with a child.

In response to the OP, Marital "rape" can possibly exist, but I'd be more interested in the circumstances surrounding it.
If the guy has had sex in the past 36 hours and couldn't go a few more hours because his wife was "tired" then yeah - marital rape.
If the guy has been trying for weeks/months/years to get any form of intimacy out of his wife, tried to be loving and understanding yet she's acting like a cunt like the rest of the female population: I'll 100% defend the guy and within Christian terms, he has every right to a divorce as she's effectively not fufilling her marital duties.

Tldr: Martial Rape wouldn't exist if foids weren't childish cunts and could create a strong communication with their husband.


Go on reddit r/deadbedrooms or r/Christianmarriage.

Anytime a guy complains about the wife not putting out? YTA. SEXIST PIG. She might be: <Insert medical symptom>, HER HORMONES, SHE MAY BE SAD, HOW DO YOU TREAT HER, DO YOU SHOW HER YOU LOVE HER?
It's always the guys fault.

Anytime a woman complains about the guy not putting out? YOU DESERVE BETTER, HE'S A SELF-CENTERED PIG. HE PROBABLY WATCHES PORN.
It's always the guys fault.


Honestly, getting married is probably the best way to ensure that end up severely mentally, financially and psychologically shafted with the only escape being suicide.
Unironically it actually is - no joke.

To begin, I'd just like to say if on the altar when the bride and groom are getting married, the groom was to say:



No sane man on the face of this earth would go on any further - the wedding would end there.
A couple/dating is merely a friendship where man and woman love each other - especially sexually.

A few members here have friends. They're not attracted to them sexually, but they're friends. If you develop sexual interest in a woman, she's not going to be just your "friend".




Even within the bible, it speaks strongly against a man or woman with-holding sex from their spouse.

The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. - 1 Corinthians 7:3-4

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” - Ephesians
5:22-29


That's the problem with modern marriage especially a large amount of Christians - who are leading the divorce rate compared to other religions:



The mutual loving dynamic doesn't exist.
Foids want complete control over their own body as they think submitting to a man is patriarchial (thanks feminism) and when guys do all within their power to love their wife, It fails because the wife is being a stuck up bitch and the guy is effectively living with a child.

In response to the OP, Marital "rape" can possibly exist, but I'd be more interested in the circumstances surrounding it.
If the guy has had sex in the past 36 hours and couldn't go a few more hours because his wife was "tired" then yeah - marital rape.
If the guy has been trying for weeks/months/years to get any form of intimacy out of his wife, tried to be loving and understanding yet she's acting like a cunt like the rest of the female population: I'll 100% defend the guy and within Christian terms, he has every right to a divorce as she's effectively not fufilling her marital duties.

Tldr: Martial Rape wouldn't exist if foids weren't childish cunts and could create a strong communication with their husband.


Go on reddit r/deadbedrooms or r/Christianmarriage.

Anytime a guy complains about the wife not putting out? YTA. SEXIST PIG. She might be: <Insert medical symptom>, HER HORMONES, SHE MAY BE SAD, HOW DO YOU TREAT HER, DO YOU SHOW HER YOU LOVE HER?
It's always the guys fault.

Anytime a woman complains about the guy not putting out? YOU DESERVE BETTER, HE'S A SELF-CENTERED PIG. HE PROBABLY WATCHES PORN.
It's always the guys fault.


Honestly, getting married is probably the best way to ensure that end up severely mentally, financially and psychologically shafted with the only escape being suicide.
Even if the husband has problem of demanding sex even if he had it 36 hrs ago. It should nt be dealt like rape . It should never be taken to the court. It should be dealt by a medical professional, to make them sexually compatible. Man always has greater drive than women. So when ever he feels horny wife won't feel the same , especially of if the husband isn't attractive.
 
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But socit



Even if the husband has problem of demanding sex even if he had it 36 hrs ago. It should nt be dealt like rape . It should never be taken to the court. It should be dealt by a medical professional, to make them sexually compatible. Man always has greater drive than women. So when ever he feels horny wife won't feel the same , especially of if the husband isn't attractive.
Society holds that if a woman doesn't want to have sex with someone, the solution isn't to find her someone she will have sex with. Society holds that we should accept when a person doesn't want to have sex, because their will should not command someone to do something they don't want to do.

Society holds that if a man wants to have sex, he should find someone who consents to having sex with him. If that person exists.
 
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I think is huge lie and injustice to punish a guy for marital rape.

I mean the concept of rape and it it's legal definition was made to protect foids to protect her reproductive ability. So that she can trade it with man for his resources , this is the unwritten idea of marriage.

Ok we can say that to an extent a husband should nt force his wife. But the wife can deny him sex forever. It's her obligation to fulfil his needs regardless of 'her mood'. In my opinion If she get traumatized by when her husband has sex with her then there is something wrong with her mental makeup and it should be dealt by a sexologist . Rather than getting the state to involve in the matter and punishing the husband.

As I said before 'rape' is just legal term we can't apply it to every situation. For eg 'murder' is a crime. But we don't punish soliders for murdering terrorist. The act is the same but the Context differs.
This is why no such thing exists under sharia law :feelsthink::feelsokman:
 
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Even if the husband has problem of demanding sex even if he had it 36 hrs ago. It should nt be dealt like rape .
Never stated it should, but as a Christian if a wife is to give her body to her husband, the husband should likewise give his body to his wife...


It should never be taken to the court.
Agreed.


It should be dealt by a medical professional, to make them sexually compatible
It's not even that.

The modern foid is a self-centered stuck up, childish, narcisstic cunt.

Foid's WILL NEVER put the needs of a guy she's married too before her own unless he's a Gigachad - because then her vagina will think for her (women are emotional beings).

Combine this with their desire for a better and better chad, they'll never be contempt with their situation and stop putting out or use sex as a means to control.


Man always has greater drive than women.
Try saying that to Soyddit.

Even the mentally ill Female to Male trannies all reported a rapid increase in their sex drive when they were given test, but these phaggots will deny it and point to the one foid they know who couldn't stop riding the Tetrachad.

It biologically DOES NOT make sense.
Women have absolutely no need for a high sexual drive (towards any man), they need the best genetics possible which is why they'll happily do whatever Gigachad says.

As for men, they just need a hole.
Assuming all women are loyal and weren't hypergamous, there isn't a single foid in my gym which I wouldn't say no to (excluding Landwhales - they're not women), as for women? They'll all share the same Chad.


So when ever he feels horny wife won't feel the same , especially of if the husband isn't attractive.
 
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This is why you shouldn't get married to begin with, and I've always said that "marital rape" is a misnomer, the woman's duty in marriage is to have sex with her husband and to bear his children, but the contract has been changed in these times and women are obligated to do nothing but exist, whereas men still have to abide by their traditional roles and fulfill their obligations, its a one sided contract so there's point in signing up

Am I even surprised @FrothySolutions is here with his usually normie sounding rhetoric JFL
 
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Islam is not blackpilled, there is nothing blackpilled about praying to an invisible man in the sky.
Based. If anything religion makes u a submissive bitch.
 
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Islam is not blackpilled, there is nothing blackpilled about praying to an invisible man in the sky.
I think some of you guys are falsely assuming that every person involved in religion believes in it wholeheartedly, religion has a utilitarian purpose, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of "muslim men" who simply abide by the rules of the religion for its perks, you will have access to chaste and young women for wives and a stable society with limited "degeneracy", that's a decent tradeoff just to pretend you believe in a God

Becoming a muslim is a great strategy but you can't half ass it, you have to go live where the religion has power and influence, and that's not the west, I would gladly pray to an invisible man in the sky if I can get something out of it, doesn't matter if he exists, what matters in the effect it has on society

If I could help Islam take over the world I would, its the best religion for men, Christianity has become so cucked it pretty much favors only women now
 
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I think is huge lie and injustice to punish a guy for marital rape.
I can see there being different kinds of marriage, some centered around sex, others not.

Sexual obligations should be defined in the contract.

Probably what should happen is both parties put up a purse which is awarded to whoever is being turned down sexually.

If there is dispute over who is turning the other down, they should have to have sex on camera with a lawyer present.

Where I can see that as unfair is if the guy can't get hard, then it's hard to blame him.

In the same sense, I guess for parity we should empathize with women who can't get hard.

They can still get fucked without clitoral erections but it wouldn't feel as tight or pleasant for them.

In the same sense that a guy with a limp dick could still do 69 while soft, I guess?
 
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Islam is not blackpilled, there is nothing blackpilled about praying to an invisible man in the sky.
That particular invisible man, isn't in the sky. He's in a...
cube in Mecca
 
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