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Serious Men should not feel guilty for manipulating women, since women after all are the master manipulators and withholders of sex

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In this post I am positing a theory, the theory is that it is perfectly fine to manipulate women

Summary/tldr: women are going to manipulate men in a relationship regardless of what they do, sometimes even unintentionally. Men who wring their hands or call other men monsters because they are playing with a woman's emotions are failing to understand the fundamental dynamics of a woman to man interaction.


Lesson 1: When entering into a sexual relationship with a man, a woman first evaluates the partner in a Machiavellian way, completely unintentionally. Her first thought is: What can I get from him? This is thought often in hamster terms, often she will postulate as to what he does, how much me might make, if he's a 'good guy' (pushover). This does not suggest that women are conniving by nature, but a woman will not enter into a sexual relationship that she does not gain anything from. A woman will not have sex with a beta male unless she first gains something, but why would she fuck a beta male when she has access to chad/ chadlite?

Further to my point, the woman gains something by having sex with an alpha male; his company, protection, and biologically the access to highly desirable genes for her offspring (which is a component of all organisms way of going about things, even if we don't realize it). As such, the idea of 'love' as a sort of nebulous, greater than our biological urges concept is foolish. A woman falls in 'love' when she meets and gets fucked by a man who is better than anything she feels she can ever hope to get. She believes that she has found 'the one'. She falls out of love when he demonstrates traits and behaviors that show her she may be able to find better options.

Lesson 2: With that in mind, your interactions with women are framed around a sort of 'game' of give-and-take ( game = beating the dating game, being good looking, being chad). As you pass the shit tests, which are her fucked way of determining if you are indeed all you appear at first glance, she realizes that she can gain something from you, and if you act on her opportunity she presents, you win the "game" and get the girl. Manipulation isn't a choice, it is going to happen regardless. A better word would be to 'influence.'


The woman will influence a man, particularly a beta, when she sees something that she needs for survival. Beta bucks exist because a woman needs financial security, particularly when she does not have the means to support herself on her own ( this sort of shit happens after she is supposedly done getting fucked by chad and partying it up and wants to "settle down" and have some sort of "financial stability".


An alpha would be less willing to offer up such means in a short span of time, especially not without great sacrifice on the part of the woman. A woman can play her cards right and get the thing she wants out of beta men with very little investment. Some women in the internet age have even made money without having sex or even doing professional modeling, the concept of the 'e-whore' is an example of that, a woman using her sexuality online in order to get her the resources she needs to survive. Eg - camgirling, onlyfans, selling videos, selling used clothes, findom, amateur porn, fetish videos. And how is she able to do this? By manipulating beta men into giving her their money for fake validation and fake acknowledgement/ attention.



Lesson 3: This doesn't mean you need to eschew your morality. While most concepts of basic Christianity are cucked, The Bible often talks about the need for a man to assert control over his women. Men who didn't, for example, King Ahab, his son-in-law King Jehoram, were often doomed by them.


The role of the women in a Biblical context is to submit to her husband. You may feel that such manipulation is ungodly, but if you don't do it she will rebel and likely cause you more harm, which would disrupt the family your God wants you to create.


As for Islam, as GLO said, they are right about women. This is not an endorsement of Islam, or an endorsement of Christianity, but merely a way to dispel most men's refusal to 'play the game' that is being played whether they like it or not.
 
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Lesson 2: With that in mind, your interactions with women are framed around a sort of 'game' of give-and-take. As you pass the shit tests, which are her way of determining if you are indeed all you appear at first glance, she realizes that she can gain something from you, and if you act on her opportunity she presents, you win the game and get the girl. Manipulation isn't a choice, it is going to happen regardless. A better word would be to 'influence.'
Cope. looks are everything. Games and shit tests are PUA jargon
 
Cope. looks are everything. Games and shit tests are PUA jargon
I wasnt referring to game as in redpill bullshit, in fact i detest it. I was referring to game as in women attracted to chad/ attractive guy, hence that guy winning the dating game.
 
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I wasnt referring to game as in redpill bullshit, in fact i detest it. I was referring to game as in women attracted to chad/ attractive guy, hence them winning the dating game.
ok word, makes sense, what did you mean by shit tests though
 
ok word, makes sense, what did you mean by shit tests though
since women have many attractive guys at her disposal, she still has to pick and choose, and these men still have to deal with her manipulative and psycho female bullshit until she picks her ideal man ( attractive/ chad)
 
I have read it multiple times, yet I am still baffled about what the purpose of this thread is.
 
Everyone tries to manipulate everyone else within their means to get what they want while trying to convey the image of being a “good” person. It’s cynical all the way down people just don’t admit it even to themselves. If you really look at why people do what they do it’s for self interested reasons every time (even in cases that “seem” selfless).

For men who are hugely disadvantaged on the sex/relationship front, it’s no wonder they try every route in the book towards their goal of sex. What choice do they have?

It often doesn’t work barring actually being decent looking and even then may require status and resources.
 

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