[Blackpill] Most men do not want virgin partners, virgin men do as a manifestation of their own shame.

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It is well documented that men, though many deny this, like to feel as though they are the protector, provider or leader in a relationship. Women (though most would deny this) have a proclivity towards the opposite role - for obvious evolutionary reasons. This is shown by the fact that women rarely enter into relationships with men who make less money than them, (it is simply at odds with their endogenous psychology to be the provider in the relationship and thus many women struggle to feel sustained attraction towards a man who is economically beneath her) it also explains why men are so often embarrassed by having a richer female partner pay for them, as their psychological dispensation is that of the provider, an inversion of the same dynamic that makes women attracted to provider men.

Because of this dynamic, a man does not want to be in a relationship with a woman who has had more sexual partners than he has had, because, like with money, access to sex is a symbol of status among men and it would make him feel emasculated

The reason male virgins are so much more likely to have an obsession with their future partner’s virginity than sexually active men is because of this dynamic and the consequential shame that comes along with being a male virgin. For this reason virgin men are so much more likely to consider non-virgin women to be disgusting despoiled whores than sexually successful men might. What IT doesn’t understand (and what most incels don’t understand) is that male virgin disgust for sexually active women is a manifestation of shame and inferiority surrounding their own virginity. They cannot picture themselves with a partner who is not a virgin because the male brain does not like to envisage an idealised romantic scenario in which he is lower-status than the female he is courting, this leads to anger and frustration initially and then disgust - which comes as a coping mechanism, an imagined way to lower the worth of the female in order to cope with one’s own perceived inferiority.

If you had been sexually accepted by women you would consider their sexual behaviour (often called ‘degeneracy’) to be normal rather than disgusting and you would not care about your future partner being a virgin or not because the act of sex would no longer be so stigmatised for you.

A lot of you will be raging reading this, but if you disagree let me ask you this: did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.

Non-virgin men (normies) do not feel this same disgust, they want women who have experience in bed, (as long as the experience does not exceed their own so that they feel emasculated.) They do not want virgins bleeding all over the fucking sheets every time they get laid, of course an incel wouldn’t mind this because any act of sex is such a coveted experience that a bit of extra laundry is a small price to pay.

The reason I’m pointing this out is not because I want you to feel worse, a society that shames men for being virgins then calls them disgusting for their misogynistic disgust of non-virgin women has itself to blame for this undesirable outcome.

I am merely trying to point out the processes which underpin why we come to feel the emotions we do in reflection of how the world treats us, it is truly fascinating if you step back from your emotions and observe it objectively. Understanding that they are illusions will also help you to cope with your more unpleasant and overwhelming emotions.

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The reason I have marked this post as [blackpill] is because it addresses incel-specific delusional fantasies, delusions that exist within blackpill communities are very common and are used by incels to cope.
 
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Interesting insight, if I was fucking hot women every night I wouldn't care if one is a "virgin" as much.
 
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Yup.

Hollywood, athlete and other celebrity Chads typically don't choose virgins. Or even foids in their "prime" whatever that is. Or even the best looking foids they could get. When you don't have the mentality of scarcity (or total deprivation like us), it's a whole different process of choosing a mate.
 
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Interesting insight, if I was fucking hot women every night I wouldn't care if one is a "virgin" as much.
Well most people here would fuck a woman who wasn’t a virgin for a one night stand but claim to be disgusted by the idea of an LTR with one. My claim is that that this disgust would not exist had they been accepted by women in the first place, and it is provable by observing that normie men are not fixated on the notion that their long-term partners be virgin.
 
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Monogamous marriage of virgins is the only way to go. If you are a virgin, it is your duty to hate non-monogamous non-virgins, just as it is the duty of the academic to hate the plagiarist. He is the perverter and market under cutter of what is right and good.
 
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Yup.

Hollywood, athlete and other celebrity Chads typically don't choose virgins. Or even foids in their "prime" whatever that is. Or even the best looking foids they could get. When you don't have the mentality of scarcity (or total deprivation like us), it's a whole different process of choosing a mate.
Indeed, I expect a lot of backlash to my posts because I often contradict some of the established incel narratives, some of which are on par with the bluepillers for levels of delusion.

Can always count on you to be impartial and make sense though. I get the impression you understand thatyou also must point out hypocrisy on your own side if you want to maintain status as a free-thinker, though we do this in the knowledge we will likely not be afforded the same courtesy for those on the other side.
 
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I don't have a problem with fucking a non virgin, but I can't picture myself romantically interested in one. The fact that I know that she has been fucked by another man makes it impossible for me to take her seriously as a long term partner and be tender towards her. Studies have shown that womens chance to commit to a relationship drop significantly even after getting fucked by just one man, like from 90% to 50% or smt.

I'm not a virgin btw, been hookermaxxing the last 3 years, but i guess you could say that this doesn't count as success with women in your brain
 
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Not entirely applicable to me I don't think. The reason why I'd prefer a virgin gf is because she'd be less likely to leave me, that's basically it. Although you're right that being a virgin makes me feel inferior to other people, but that's true of all the rejection which I've received.
did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.
Well tbh my feelings are strange, the idea of sex kinda disgusts me in general, including the idea of me having sex, it's not specific to women. Could this be a coping mechanism? I guess, I mean my feelings probably wouldn't be the same if I didn't experience what it's like to fail, be rejected, and be mogged constantly throughout life.

However this doesn't really make my assertions wrong, as if someone claimed this is so, then I could just as easily argue that nomies aren't getting all the information either, and they're no less biased. That they only think all the constant mogging, bullshit, and violence surrounding sex is okay because they didn't have to be on the receiving end of it themselves, and they didn't have to experience what it's like to be alone for so long. So I'd say this type of reasoning is a non argument, and it can just as easily be reversed.
 
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Ah, we won't have sex lives anyway.
 
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No it's because it proves you inferior to CHAD not to femoids.

Chad ate first and you get the crumbles, you're further down on the hierarchy so you come last when claiming resources, such as females.

Having sex is not a mark of success for women.

Incels are frustrated of being picked last.
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cucked and bluepilled. but hey, more roasties for you, right? :feelsokman:
 
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I don't have a problem with fucking a non virgin, but I can't picture myself romantically interested in one. The fact that I know that she has been fucked by another man makes it impossible for me to take her seriously as a long term partner and be tender towards her. Studies have shown that womens chance to commit to a relationship drop significantly even after getting fucked by just one man, like from 90% to 50% or smt.
This, I always disliked sexually active WHORES be it women or men. And the key word here is PARTNER. Jfl if you think a a whore Stacy is equal to a virgin in terms of LONG TERM relationships in the eyes of men, virgin or not.
 
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No it's because it proves you inferior to CHAD not to femoids.

Chad ate first and you get the crumbles, you're further down on the hierarchy so you come last when claiming resources, such as females.

Having sex is not a mark of success for women.

Incels are frustrated of being picked last.
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While I'd definitely prefer a younger virgin as a long-term partner, it's not like I have a choice. When I hold my pillow at night I don't think of it being a "virgin". Just a non-fat, faceless, nameless, girl my age or younger.
 
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Interesting insight, if I was fucking hot women every night I wouldn't care if one is a "virgin" as much.
That’s a big if... it’s over... it is completely and utterly over.
 
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I got over this desire a while ago. I just want one that's 16 - 23, not fat, white.
 
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Men are supposed to be more or equally sexually experienced as women. Even women admit that they want men to be more experienced sexually than them. Chads don't give a fuck about woman being virgin or not because they have had even more sex in their lives than their slutty girlfriends.

Normie cucks who maybe had one or two girlfriends in the past and marry a whore who has had much more partners are deluding themselves if they think they wouldn't like a virgin more instead.

Incels are just brutally honest about their lack of sexual experience and would want their girlfriends to be on similar level.
 
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I think the big obsession with virginity is because of insecurity tbh. If you are an incel, even if you acend you will always live in constant fear of the woman comparing you to her past experiences with chad.

How could you not be insecure tho? You have the bottom tier genetics and the woman will compare you to all the chads she fucked.

If you were a godtier chad you would not give a damn about a girls virginity, because you know every girl you have sex with wants to fuck your brains out and forgets all her past partners as soon as she tastes your superior genes.

Its one big fat cope
JFL, even if was Chad I would dislike modern women.
Hmm monks are the biggest larpers, you fake not giving a fuck but u are the biggest copers. If you were chad "modern women" would treat you like a king.
 
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A lot of you will be raging reading this, but if you disagree let me ask you this: did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.
Ngl even before I realised I was ugly to most women I always knew I'd only marry a virgin girl. It just something that's always been ingrained in me. And even now that I've technically had sex (escortcelled), I still will only settle for a virgin girl. Another reason for it is because we all know that virgin women make more loyal wives, it's a proven fact.

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It is well documented that men, though many deny this, like to feel as though they are the protector, provider or leader in a relationship. Women (though most would deny this) have a proclivity towards the opposite role - for obvious evolutionary reasons. This is shown by the fact that women rarely enter into relationships with men who make less money than them, (it is simply at odds with their endogenous psychology to be the provider in the relationship and thus many women struggle to feel sustained attraction towards a man who is economically beneath her) it also explains why men are so often embarrassed by having a richer female partner pay for them, as their psychological dispensation is that of the provider, an inversion of the same dynamic that makes women attracted to provider men.

Because of this dynamic, a man does not want to be in a relationship with a woman who has had more sexual partners than he has had, because, like with money, access to sex is a symbol of status among men and it would make him feel emasculated

The reason male virgins are so much more likely to have an obsession with their future partner’s virginity than sexually active men is because of this dynamic and the consequential shame that comes along with being a male virgin. For this reason virgin men are so much more likely to consider non-virgin women to be disgusting despoiled whores than sexually successful men might. What IT doesn’t understand (and what most incels don’t understand) is that male virgin disgust for sexually active women is a manifestation of shame and inferiority surrounding their own virginity. They cannot picture themselves with a partner who is not a virgin because the male brain does not like to envisage an idealised romantic scenario in which he is lower-status than the female he is courting, this leads to anger and frustration initially and then disgust - which comes as a coping mechanism, an imagined way to lower the worth of the female in order to cope with one’s own perceived inferiority.

If you had been sexually accepted by women you would consider their sexual behaviour (often called ‘degeneracy’) to be normal rather than disgusting and you would not care about your future partner being a virgin or not because the act of sex would no longer be so stigmatised for you.

A lot of you will be raging reading this, but if you disagree let me ask you this: did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.

Non-virgin men (normies) do not feel this same disgust, they want women who have experience in bed, (as long as the experience does not exceed their own so that they feel emasculated.) They do not want virgins bleeding all over the fucking sheets every time they get laid, of course an incel wouldn’t mind this because any act of sex is such a coveted experience that a bit of extra laundry is a small price to pay.

The reason I’m pointing this out is not because I want you to feel worse, a society that shames men for being virgins then calls them disgusting for their misogynistic disgust of non-virgin women has itself to blame for this undesirable outcome.

I am merely trying to point out the processes which underpin why we come to feel the emotions we do in reflection of how the world treats us, it is truly fascinating if you step back from your emotions and observe it objectively. Understanding that they are illusions will also help you to cope with your more unpleasant and overwhelming emotions.

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The reason I have marked this post as [blackpill] is because it addresses incel-specific delusional fantasies, delusions that exist within blackpill communities are very common and are used by incels to cope.
I stopped caring if a woman was a virgin after high school because i knew that was not realistic. But this is an interesting post and i have not ever considered this perspective.
 
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:soy: men want women with experience since they're skilled in bed and confident

Up until these cucked times, men wanted a virgin so they could fuck her tight hole. Such a wife would become experienced (in how to please YOUR OWN dick) eventually anyway, excluding in cultures where only missionary sex was allowed and such.
 
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I kind of want a mommygf tbh. I don't care if she makes more than me.
 
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:soy: men want women with experience since they're skilled in bed and confident

Up until these cucked times, men wanted a virgin so they could fuck her tight hole. Such a wife would become experienced (in how to please YOUR OWN dick) eventually anyway, excluding in cultures where only missionary sex was allowed and such.
It is well documented that men, though many deny this, like to feel as though they are the protector, provider or leader in a relationship. Women (though most would deny this) have a proclivity towards the opposite role - for obvious evolutionary reasons. This is shown by the fact that women rarely enter into relationships with men who make less money than them, (it is simply at odds with their endogenous psychology to be the provider in the relationship and thus many women struggle to feel sustained attraction towards a man who is economically beneath her) it also explains why men are so often embarrassed by having a richer female partner pay for them, as their psychological dispensation is that of the provider, an inversion of the same dynamic that makes women attracted to provider men.

Because of this dynamic, a man does not want to be in a relationship with a woman who has had more sexual partners than he has had, because, like with money, access to sex is a symbol of status among men and it would make him feel emasculated

The reason male virgins are so much more likely to have an obsession with their future partner’s virginity than sexually active men is because of this dynamic and the consequential shame that comes along with being a male virgin. For this reason virgin men are so much more likely to consider non-virgin women to be disgusting despoiled whores than sexually successful men might. What IT doesn’t understand (and what most incels don’t understand) is that male virgin disgust for sexually active women is a manifestation of shame and inferiority surrounding their own virginity. They cannot picture themselves with a partner who is not a virgin because the male brain does not like to envisage an idealised romantic scenario in which he is lower-status than the female he is courting, this leads to anger and frustration initially and then disgust - which comes as a coping mechanism, an imagined way to lower the worth of the female in order to cope with one’s own perceived inferiority.

If you had been sexually accepted by women you would consider their sexual behaviour (often called ‘degeneracy’) to be normal rather than disgusting and you would not care about your future partner being a virgin or not because the act of sex would no longer be so stigmatised for you.

A lot of you will be raging reading this, but if you disagree let me ask you this: did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.

Non-virgin men (normies) do not feel this same disgust, they want women who have experience in bed, (as long as the experience does not exceed their own so that they feel emasculated.) They do not want virgins bleeding all over the fucking sheets every time they get laid, of course an incel wouldn’t mind this because any act of sex is such a coveted experience that a bit of extra laundry is a small price to pay.

The reason I’m pointing this out is not because I want you to feel worse, a society that shames men for being virgins then calls them disgusting for their misogynistic disgust of non-virgin women has itself to blame for this undesirable outcome.

I am merely trying to point out the processes which underpin why we come to feel the emotions we do in reflection of how the world treats us, it is truly fascinating if you step back from your emotions and observe it objectively. Understanding that they are illusions will also help you to cope with your more unpleasant and overwhelming emotions.

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The reason I have marked this post as [blackpill] is because it addresses incel-specific delusional fantasies, delusions that exist within blackpill communities are very common and are used by incels to cope.
Virginity in women has always been prized by men down through the centuries.
 
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You didn't even respond to the points made against your OP, what a shitshow of a thread, stop trying to be "unique" with your theories and admit you conjured up a shit theory.
 
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Didnt read, I demand a virgin.
 
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No it's because it proves you inferior to CHAD not to femoids.

Chad ate first and you get the crumbles, you're further down on the hierarchy so you come last when claiming resources, such as females.

Having sex is not a mark of success for women.

Incels are frustrated of being picked last.
Agreed. It is humiliating, to put it simply.

Also you will always wonder why she's with you, considering you had so little success and she had so much. It will be hard not to conclude you're being manipulated somehow.
 
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True, if I’m a virgin then I want a virgin girlfriend.
 
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You didn't even respond to the points made against your OP, what a shitshow of a thread, stop trying to be "unique" with your theories and admit you conjured up a shit theory.
Not trying to be unique at all, just trying to point out bias in our community as I see it.

I didn’t see any explicit counter arguments to respond to, just people either agreeing with me or disagreeing by calling me low IQ, not that I mind either way, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

If you are upset I did not dignify your original post with a response that is because I do not see a counter argument, you merely stated your own preference and it’s justification:
Ngl even before I realised I was ugly to most women I always knew I'd only marry a virgin girl. It just something that's always been ingrained in me. And even now that I've technically had sex (escortcelled), I still will only settle for a virgin girl. Another reason for it is because we all know that virgin women make more loyal wives, it's a proven fact.

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if you want to make a general assertion rather than a personal one in response I will happily debate you, though I hope you understand describing your own desires doesn’t add credence to the notion the same desires are shared by all (or at least most) men.
 
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Understanding that they are illusions will also help you to cope with your more unpleasant and overwhelming emotions.
How is this adequate cope? So you are thrown into a scenario where you snag a high n-count woman. You want the guy to just disregard his sexual imperative, status, and ego? Jfl there men who alrdy do this. I'm sure many of them post on inceltears.
 
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There is no woman on earth who wants a virgin man unless maybe she is one herself, but past the age of 20 or so the odds of that are very slim. Just the thought of you struggling through sex is a huge turn off for them. Just another “rich get richer” scenario where a guy who is already a hit with women gets even more and losers stay losers
 
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I was expecting this response so it doesn’t offend me, but if you really believe normie men prefer a virgin girlfriend then you obviously don’t know any, or are low IQ yourself.
who gives a fuck what normies want? normies will want anything that they are directed to want. the hallmark of a normie is that they can be convinced of literally anything and everything as long as it's popular. they rather get cucked than go against the grain and proclaim - even if only to themselves - that society should go fuck itself and its modern 'values'.
 
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Interesting points. However it's a fact that virgin women are much more loyal than non virgins. If you want a wife, she has to be a virgin, otherwise you'll get cucked
 
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It is well documented that men, though many deny this, like to feel as though they are the protector, provider or leader in a relationship. Women (though most would deny this) have a proclivity towards the opposite role - for obvious evolutionary reasons. This is shown by the fact that women rarely enter into relationships with men who make less money than them, (it is simply at odds with their endogenous psychology to be the provider in the relationship and thus many women struggle to feel sustained attraction towards a man who is economically beneath her) it also explains why men are so often embarrassed by having a richer female partner pay for them, as their psychological dispensation is that of the provider, an inversion of the same dynamic that makes women attracted to provider men.

Because of this dynamic, a man does not want to be in a relationship with a woman who has had more sexual partners than he has had, because, like with money, access to sex is a symbol of status among men and it would make him feel emasculated

The reason male virgins are so much more likely to have an obsession with their future partner’s virginity than sexually active men is because of this dynamic and the consequential shame that comes along with being a male virgin. For this reason virgin men are so much more likely to consider non-virgin women to be disgusting despoiled whores than sexually successful men might. What IT doesn’t understand (and what most incels don’t understand) is that male virgin disgust for sexually active women is a manifestation of shame and inferiority surrounding their own virginity. They cannot picture themselves with a partner who is not a virgin because the male brain does not like to envisage an idealised romantic scenario in which he is lower-status than the female he is courting, this leads to anger and frustration initially and then disgust - which comes as a coping mechanism, an imagined way to lower the worth of the female in order to cope with one’s own perceived inferiority.

If you had been sexually accepted by women you would consider their sexual behaviour (often called ‘degeneracy’) to be normal rather than disgusting and you would not care about your future partner being a virgin or not because the act of sex would no longer be so stigmatised for you.

A lot of you will be raging reading this, but if you disagree let me ask you this: did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.

Non-virgin men (normies) do not feel this same disgust, they want women who have experience in bed, (as long as the experience does not exceed their own so that they feel emasculated.) They do not want virgins bleeding all over the fucking sheets every time they get laid, of course an incel wouldn’t mind this because any act of sex is such a coveted experience that a bit of extra laundry is a small price to pay.

The reason I’m pointing this out is not because I want you to feel worse, a society that shames men for being virgins then calls them disgusting for their misogynistic disgust of non-virgin women has itself to blame for this undesirable outcome.

I am merely trying to point out the processes which underpin why we come to feel the emotions we do in reflection of how the world treats us, it is truly fascinating if you step back from your emotions and observe it objectively. Understanding that they are illusions will also help you to cope with your more unpleasant and overwhelming emotions.

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The reason I have marked this post as [blackpill] is because it addresses incel-specific delusional fantasies, delusions that exist within blackpill communities are very common and are used by incels to cope.
I think you are bang on. The process of not being sexually active or having a romantic partner gives excessive opportunity for someone to distill and refine their definition of an acceptable partner. This because they are never actually faced with the situation where they are presented with a potential partner that they need to make a choice in relation to. That moment where you might be standing with someone and feel attraction to them and receive some indication that it is reciprocated...in that moment it seems unlikely that you then get out the list that you've developed of necessary criterea for a suitable partner. Likely you will just go with what you feel, which I doubt will be disgust in reality, and compromise on all thje things you previously thought were important. There are people on this forum that I believe are living in a bubble filled with beliefs developed in isolation or in the echo-chamber that so many threads here can be. Think about it and burst your fucking bubble. Then despair and rot.....:feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman:
Monogamous marriage of virgins is the only way to go. If you are a virgin, it is your duty to hate non-monogamous non-virgins, just as it is the duty of the academic to hate the plagiarist. He is the perverter and market under cutter of what is right and good.
And if you end up living and dying an incel simply because of your, arguably unrealistic, self-imposed standards? Do you win a prize or something? A special sticker that says, "I supported all that is right and good...and got blue balls in the process"?
 
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And if you end up living and dying an incel simply because of your, arguably unrealistic, self-imposed standards? Do you win a prize or something? A special sticker that says, "I supported all that is right and good...and got blue balls in the process"?
if he ascends with his perfect waifu, great! she probably won't cheat on him and will love and support him no matter what. if he ascend with a blown out roastie, she'll probably nag him every day, they'll have a kid that probably won't be his and then he'll get divorce raped. these things have very real consequences, why do you think every man has this shit deeply ingrained in him. besides, he has one standard. why does he have to drop that too just because the world is fucked? :feelsrope:
 
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I think you are bang on. The process of not being sexually active or having a romantic partner gives excessive opportunity for someone to distill and refine their definition of an acceptable partner. This because they are never actually faced with the situation where they are presented with a potential partner that they need to make a choice in relation to. That moment where you might be standing with someone and feel attraction to them and receive some indication that it is reciprocated...in that moment it seems unlikely that you then get out the list that you've developed of necessary criterea for a suitable partner. Likely you will just go with what you feel, which I doubt will be disgust in reality, and compromise on all thje things you previously thought were important. There are people on this forum that I believe are living in a bubble filled with beliefs developed in isolation or in the echo-chamber that so many threads here can be. Think about it and burst your fucking bubble. Then despair and rot.....:feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman:

And if you end up living and dying an incel simply because of your, arguably unrealistic, self-imposed standards? Do you win a prize or something? A special sticker that says, "I supported all that is right and good...and got blue balls in the process"?
Why are you so hellbent on getting people to marry non-virgins, can you not see the divorce rates? There is a fundamental reason marriage does not work in 2019 and that is because of the inability of women and men to pair bond. Pair bonding has been obliterated by premarital sex. However, that's only regarding marriage and not boyfriend/girlfriend relationships, sure, I wouldn't mind having a "relationship" with a non-virgin but I'd never marry her. But then, what's the point of growing old with no one to love or support you? There is none.
 
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Even if I had fucked 1000 foids I'd still want a virgin partner.
 
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Even if I had fucked 1000 foids I'd still want a virgin partner.
I really don’t doubt it. I am not claiming everyone in the world would not want a virgin girlfriend given the chance. I am just making the claim that, at least in general terms, what makes most incels more fixated on female virginity is the fact they are uncomfortable with their own.
 
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You don't want to buy a used pocked pussy even if it's 100% clean and sanitary? Well, why not? Probably a coping mechanism and not hardwired biological impulse.

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It is well documented that men, though many deny this, like to feel as though they are the protector, provider or leader in a relationship. Women (though most would deny this) have a proclivity towards the opposite role - for obvious evolutionary reasons. This is shown by the fact that women rarely enter into relationships with men who make less money than them, (it is simply at odds with their endogenous psychology to be the provider in the relationship and thus many women struggle to feel sustained attraction towards a man who is economically beneath her) it also explains why men are so often embarrassed by having a richer female partner pay for them, as their psychological dispensation is that of the provider, an inversion of the same dynamic that makes women attracted to provider men.

Because of this dynamic, a man does not want to be in a relationship with a woman who has had more sexual partners than he has had, because, like with money, access to sex is a symbol of status among men and it would make him feel emasculated

The reason male virgins are so much more likely to have an obsession with their future partner’s virginity than sexually active men is because of this dynamic and the consequential shame that comes along with being a male virgin. For this reason virgin men are so much more likely to consider non-virgin women to be disgusting despoiled whores than sexually successful men might. What IT doesn’t understand (and what most incels don’t understand) is that male virgin disgust for sexually active women is a manifestation of shame and inferiority surrounding their own virginity. They cannot picture themselves with a partner who is not a virgin because the male brain does not like to envisage an idealised romantic scenario in which he is lower-status than the female he is courting, this leads to anger and frustration initially and then disgust - which comes as a coping mechanism, an imagined way to lower the worth of the female in order to cope with one’s own perceived inferiority.

If you had been sexually accepted by women you would consider their sexual behaviour (often called ‘degeneracy’) to be normal rather than disgusting and you would not care about your future partner being a virgin or not because the act of sex would no longer be so stigmatised for you.

A lot of you will be raging reading this, but if you disagree let me ask you this: did your disgust towards female sexual activity come before or after you realised you were unanimously unattractive in the eyes of women? If the answer is after then you must consider the possibility that this feeling of disgust is an illusion played by your mind to cope with your own sense of inferiority - likely you didn’t consider the sexual behaviour of women to be disgusting until you realised they were universally disgusted by you.

Non-virgin men (normies) do not feel this same disgust, they want women who have experience in bed, (as long as the experience does not exceed their own so that they feel emasculated.) They do not want virgins bleeding all over the fucking sheets every time they get laid, of course an incel wouldn’t mind this because any act of sex is such a coveted experience that a bit of extra laundry is a small price to pay.

The reason I’m pointing this out is not because I want you to feel worse, a society that shames men for being virgins then calls them disgusting for their misogynistic disgust of non-virgin women has itself to blame for this undesirable outcome.

I am merely trying to point out the processes which underpin why we come to feel the emotions we do in reflection of how the world treats us, it is truly fascinating if you step back from your emotions and observe it objectively. Understanding that they are illusions will also help you to cope with your more unpleasant and overwhelming emotions.

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The reason I have marked this post as [blackpill] is because it addresses incel-specific delusional fantasies, delusions that exist within blackpill communities are very common and are used by incels to cope.
Miss me with that Freudian pseudoscience bullshit.

Every straight man wants a virgin. The reason why normies do not feel "disgust" toward hoes is because the hoes are all they can get. Any virgin woman has an extremely high SMV. When you can't get even the ugliest of hoes, you can desire any woman because all of them are equally unobtainable to you. If your likelihood of fucking a virgin is the same as fucking a hoe, then it is only logical to desire virgins more.

Chads take virginities, normies take the leftovers because they can't do the former, and incels dream of taking virginities because they can't do anything.
 
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Why are you so hellbent on getting people to marry non-virgins, can you not see the divorce rates? There is a fundamental reason marriage does not work in 2019 and that is because of the inability of women and men to pair bond. Pair bonding has been obliterated by premarital sex. However, that's only regarding marriage and not boyfriend/girlfriend relationships, sure, I wouldn't mind having a "relationship" with a non-virgin but I'd never marry her. But then, what's the point of growing old with no one to love or support you? There is none.
I'm not hellbent on getting people to do anything. I just don't buy into a black and white view of things and I try to step back sometimes and take a wide view. I think that it's easy for people in our position to take a very narrow view of things....I've struggled not to do so. I may be incel but I won't put on blinders on and twist reality to suit my cope needs. To say that pair-bonding has been obliterated by pre-marital sex may be true, more likely it's accurate to just say that it's put a big dent in it. I'm sure people still pair-bond, regardless of whether or not they are virgins when they meet. The word is full of people who make mistakes, presumably plenty of them of a sexual nature. To act like every female who has ever had sex is incapable of pair-bonding with a male, and vice-versa, is probably nonsense. To act like no one will ever have someone to get old with unless they meet as virigns seems too simplistic a belief for me to accept. The fact that we aren't having sex makes sex seem like such a fucking prized possession, such a big deal. Maybe it isn't that big a fucking deal if you're actually able to have it?

I have to force myself to remember this key thing...I am so deeply physically flawed that I am not sexually desired by anyone. I believe that there are social mechanisms that make my circumstances worse than they otherwise might be....but to fall into the belief that because the system as it is doesn't work for me, it doesn't work for anyone...that just cope in my opinion. My shit genes are still the biggest part of the problem...believing otherwise is pure cope to help turn self-hate into hate for everyone else. It's easy to do, but I won't do it.
 
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I just want a pussy to willingly wrap itself around my cock. Asking the impossible I know but I also believe in ghosts and magic
 
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Miss me with that Freudian pseudoscience bullshit.

Every straight man wants a virgin.
You can’t label an idea pseudoscience and then come out with such an anti-scientific generalisation as that in the next sentence. Every statement that’s starts with: ‘every straight man’ is likely incorrect.

Normies and Chads brag about how great and experienced their partner was in bed, not about how satisfying it was to pop their cherry. You are projecting your own desires onto them because you cannot imagine what it’s like to not desire a virgin (probably for the reasons I stated in my OP.)
I'm not hellbent on getting people to do anything. I just don't buy into a black and white view of things and I try to step back sometimes and take a wide view. I think that it's easy for people in our position to take a very narrow view of things....I've struggled not to do so. I may be incel but I won't put on blinders on and twist reality to suit my cope needs. To say that pair-bonding has been obliterated by pre-marital sex may be true, more likely it's accurate to just say that it's put a big dent in it. I'm sure people still pair-bond, regardless of whether or not they are virgins when they meet. The word is full of people who make mistakes, presumably plenty of them of a sexual nature. To act like every female who has ever had sex is incapable of pair-bonding with a male, and vice-versa, is probably nonsense. To act like no one will ever have someone to get old with unless they meet as virigns seems too simplistic a belief for me to accept. The fact that we aren't having sex makes sex seem like such a fucking prized possession, such a big deal. Maybe it isn't that big a fucking deal if you're actually able to have it?

I have to force myself to remember this key thing...I am so deeply physically flawed that I am not sexually desired by anyone. I believe that there are social mechanisms that make my circumstances worse than they otherwise might be....but to fall into the belief that because the system as it is doesn't work for me, it doesn't work for anyone...that just cope in my opinion. My shit genes are still the biggest part of the problem...believing otherwise is pure cope to help turn self-hate into hate for everyone else. It's easy to do, but I won't do it.
I congratulate you on having maintained a free-thinking mind despite your suffering. It is overwhelmingly obvious that a lot of people who go through hard times are more susceptible to extremist beliefs and are more likely to form a distorted world view to facilitate them.

It is well documented in the UK that kids from Islamic backgrounds who are bullied at school are far more likely to develop Jihadist leanings and to consider western culture to be degenerate and disgusting than those who were accepted by their peers.

I find it hilarious that anyone can accuse us of being biased or deluded when our beliefs don’t benefit us in any way, it is harder to come to terms with the belief you just missed out than the one that it’s almost equally as bad for everyone. We believe what we think is true regardless of how it makes us feel, most of what people consider black pilled here is actually just convoluted copes about how all men are being fucked under the current system when really it is just the unattractive ones.
 
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