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Hypocrisy Normie-tier responses to Nice Guys

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One response always gets me when people talk about Nice Guys is the following:

"They were never nice in the first place, because they wanted something back!"

Even if that was true, why should this be morally reprehensible?
Everyone acts like that. Ultimately, all actions can be traced back to selfish desires - even something as seemingly selfless as donating money to homeless people.
If you take a closer look at the necessary weighing of benefits/disadvantages you will see that the man donating the money pays a very small material price for enormous emotional gratification (e.g. thinking that he is a good person who did his part in improving the life quality of that homeless person by a small margin although this is definetely not the case), ultimately all actions are only performed because the acting person thinks that these actions will maximize their own emotional wellbeing. In the cost-benefit-analysis between different people the factors taken into account vary and also the weighings of the same factors vary - but in the end everyone acts in that way whether he consciously knows it or not.

Furthermore, reciprocity is the absolute basis of normal social interactions.
You do something and you want something back - quid pro quo basically. If you gain nothing by being nice, why should you be nice? Basically Tit For Tat from the Prisoner's Dilemma/Game Theory: At first you are nice and give your partner a chance and then you emulate his behavior. If he is nice, you are nice, if he is not you are not. By acting that way you act in the most efficient possible manner for maximizing your own wellbeing. Simply speaking: Why should you want to be nice to someone who only takes and takes and never gives something back? Behaving in such a manner would be highly naive and illogical.

Furthermore: Even if you say that everything above is false/wrong, why can't you admit that sometimes a genuinely nice person can become frustrated and say something "bad" (from your perspective) because he was pushed over the edge, why are fundamental axioms of the human psyche simply ignored when an ugly male behaves in a certain manner? Turning the other cheek after years and years of bullshit without becoming frustrated and keeping a happy face is simply impossible, patience always has limits. You demand superhuman efforts from others which you would be unable to perform. It's not like in the movies where someone who constantly gets dealt a shit hand in life reamins an innocent, little angel with a heart of gold, years and years of shit can take their toll on you and can/will lead to feelings of resentment/anger/contempt even if you start out as genuinely nice.
 
I pretty much agree with everything you stated. Really good post.
 
bookmarked. nice post OP :feelsokman:
 
It's an argument that paints you as guilty as soon as you fight back in any way and always puts the blame on you no matter what.

You have to be a nice person to get a foid, if you don't get one despite being nice it's because you're not truly nice and have evil intentions deep down teehee :^)
Oh you complained in any way shape or form? Teehee see you were not truly nice, someone nice doesn't want anything back :^)
 
One response always gets me when people talk about Nice Guys is the following:

"They were never nice in the first place, because they wanted something back!"

Even if that was true, why should this be morally reprehensible?
Everyone acts like that. Ultimately, all actions can be traced back to selfish desires - even something as seemingly selfless as donating money to homeless people.
If you take a closer look at the necessary weighing of benefits/disadvantages you will see that the man donating the money pays a very small material price for enormous emotional gratification (e.g. thinking that he is a good person who did his part in improving the life quality of that homeless person by a small margin although this is definetely not the case), ultimately all actions are only performed because the acting person thinks that these actions will maximize their own emotional wellbeing. In the cost-benefit-analysis between different people the factors taken into account vary and also the weighings of the same factors vary - but in the end everyone acts in that way whether he consciously knows it or not.

Furthermore, reciprocity is the absolute basis of normal social interactions.
You do something and you want something back - quid pro quo basically. If you gain nothing by being nice, why should you be nice? Basically Tit For Tat from the Prisoner's Dilemma/Game Theory: At first you are nice and give your partner a chance and then you emulate his behavior. If he is nice, you are nice, if he is not you are not. By acting that way you act in the most efficient possible manner for maximizing your own wellbeing. Simply speaking: Why should you want to be nice to someone who only takes and takes and never gives something back? Behaving in such a manner would be highly naive and illogical.

Furthermore: Even if you say that everything above is false/wrong, why can't you admit that sometimes a genuinely nice person can become frustrated and say something "bad" (from your perspective) because he was pushed over the edge, why are fundamental axioms of the human psyche simply ignored when an ugly male behaves in a certain manner? Turning the other cheek after years and years of bullshit without becoming frustrated and keeping a happy face is simply impossible, patience always has limits. You demand superhuman efforts from others which you would be unable to perform. It's not like in the movies where someone who constantly gets dealt a shit hand in life reamins an innocent, little angel with a heart of gold, years and years of shit can take their toll on you and can/will lead to feelings of resentment/anger/contempt even if you start out as genuinely nice.
I don’t see it as selfish at all. If a guy wants some pussy or a relationship and makes it clear that does not warrant gaslighting or lying.
 
You demand superhuman efforts from others which you would be unable to perform.
These lying ass hoes broke down in tears when they were told to stay home and not bang chad for a few days yet they tell kissless virgins in their 20s to be patient and stfu
 
Gigabased big iq mods pin this
 
High IQ

actually there's no moral implications to blame nice guys. Foids just want to blame them to avoid being called out on the fact they do date assholes and don't give a damn about personality.
 
bookmarked. nice post OP :feelsokman:
Gigabased big iq mods pin this
It's an argument that paints you as guilty as soon as you fight back in any way and always puts the blame on you no matter what.

You have to be a nice person to get a foid, if you don't get one despite being nice it's because you're not truly nice and have evil intentions deep down teehee :^)
Oh you complained in any way shape or form? Teehee see you were not truly nice, someone nice doesn't want anything back :^)

Confirmation bias combined with gas lighting and victim blaming.
 
Normies operate on the just-world-fallacy and women-are-wonderful effect.

That's a double whammy for the 'nice guy', as he dares to both suggest he has not been treated fairly according to his actions, and that women are somehow at fault.

It's similar to the 'you've been incel all along because of your current opinions/forum posts' argument. Takes mental gymnastics but to the normies it's obviously true because it satisfies both the just-world-fallacy and the women-are-wonderful effect.
 
Normies operate on the just-world-fallacy and women-are-wonderful effect.

That's a double whammy for the 'nice guy', as he dares to both suggest he has not been treated fairly according to his actions, and that women are somehow at fault.
Exactly. High IQ.
 
Normies operate on the just-world-fallacy and women-are-wonderful effect.

That's a double whammy for the 'nice guy', as he dares to both suggest he has not been treated fairly according to his actions, and that women are somehow at fault.

It's similar to the 'you've been incel all along because of your current opinions/forum posts' argument. Takes mental gymnastics but to the normies it's obviously true because it satisfies both the just-world-fallacy and the women-are-wonderful effect.
 
Normies operate on the just-world-fallacy and women-are-wonderful effect.

That's a double whammy for the 'nice guy', as he dares to both suggest he has not been treated fairly according to his actions, and that women are somehow at fault.

It's similar to the 'you've been incel all along because of your current opinions/forum posts' argument. Takes mental gymnastics but to the normies it's obviously true because it satisfies both the just-world-fallacy and the women-are-wonderful effect.
 
Normies operate on the just-world-fallacy and women-are-wonderful effect.

That's a double whammy for the 'nice guy', as he dares to both suggest he has not been treated fairly according to his actions, and that women are somehow at fault.

It's similar to the 'you've been incel all along because of your current opinions/forum posts' argument. Takes mental gymnastics but to the normies it's obviously true because it satisfies both the just-world-fallacy and the women-are-wonderful effect.
 
Based and high IQ :feelsokman:
 
That type of stuff is ragefuel
 
All foids play these stupid games
 
Never got the hate over nice guys. God forbid ugly men ever complain about the injustices of getting screwed over by foids despite adhering to their ridiculous rules.
 
Never got the hate over nice guys. God forbid ugly men ever complain about the injustices of getting screwed over by foids despite adhering to their ridiculous rules.
 
I pretty much agree with everything you stated. Really good post.

bookmarked. nice post OP :feelsokman:

It's an argument that paints you as guilty as soon as you fight back in any way and always puts the blame on you no matter what.

You have to be a nice person to get a foid, if you don't get one despite being nice it's because you're not truly nice and have evil intentions deep down teehee :^)
Oh you complained in any way shape or form? Teehee see you were not truly nice, someone nice doesn't want anything back :^)

Gigabased big iq mods pin this

All foids play these stupid games

Never got the hate over nice guys. God forbid ugly men ever complain about the injustices of getting screwed over by foids despite adhering to their ridiculous rules.

Awesome replies
 
Yep most friendships/relationships are transactional even emotions can be derived as a resource.
 
Yep most friendships/relationships are transactional even emotions can be derived as a resource.
I feel good about replying to your comment.
 
These lying ass hoes broke down in tears when they were told to stay home and not bang chad for a few days yet they tell kissless virgins in their 20s to be patient and stfu
 

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