once again I have proven to myself that natural bodybuilding is a mental illness

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i have been gymcelling for many years with many on and off periods

every time I arrive to the same conclusion - it's fucking retarded

I always come to some numbers and stall hard at them for months if not forever

Then I look for some miraculous program online that usually consists of insane volume

I make some progress at the expense of joint pain and stall again

The whole time I look the same

I have not missed a workout over the last 10 months and nothing happened visually.

Honestly, gymcelling without roids is basically almost as ineffective as approaching women.

Running + pull + push-ups and some basic wight exercises will give you all the gains that you can make naturally

Also, your conditioning is all about diet.

 

[EthnicelNL]

What is your goal?

 

[mylifeistrash]

Honestly, gymcelling without roids is basically almost as ineffective as approaching women.

no, people have gotten laid from approaching. no one has looked like they "lift" from natural bodybuilding, lmao

bodybuilding is all drugs. how much muscle you carry = how much shit you inject and nothing else

it's why 5' females and get jacked as fuck on steroids

 

[Zaetheus]

What is your goal?

To be super saiyan god .

I want these types of gains:

i have been gymcelling for many years with many on and off periods

every time I arrive to the same conclusion - it's fucking retarded

I always come to some numbers and stall hard at them for months if not forever

Then I look for some miraculous program online that usually consists of insane volume

I make some progress at the expense of joint pain and stall again

The whole time I look the same

I have not missed a workout over the last 10 months and nothing happened visually.

Honestly, gymcelling without roids is basically almost as ineffective as approaching women.

Running + pull + push-ups and some basic wight exercises will give you all the gains that you can make naturally

Also, your conditioning is all about diet.

no, people have gotten laid from approaching. no one has looked like they "lift" from natural bodybuilding, lmao

bodybuilding is all drugs. how much muscle you carry = how much shit you inject and nothing else

it's why 5' females and get jacked as fuck on steroids

 

[micropenis29]

Steroids are everything for non-Chads. Chads are basically producing their own steroids because of their superior genes.

 

[Yungguy]

Don't roids shrink the fuck out of your dick?

 

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no, people have gotten laid from approaching. no one has looked like they "lift" from natural bodybuilding, lmao

bodybuilding is all drugs. how much muscle you carry = how much shit you inject and nothing else

it's why 5' females and get jacked as fuck on steroids

true and not at the same time

True - most people who are naturally big...HAVE A BIG FRAME AND ARE BIG WITHOUT EVEN LIFTING

Not true - lifting naturally gives you like 5-10lbs of muscle top.

Otherwise I agree about the steroid part. Bodybuilding is all drugs and genetics

 

[Angry_runt]

This body is enough for pretty much any femoid to drool over... if your face and height aren't deal breakers. Achievable without roids, especially if you're under 25.

 

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Don't roids shrink the fuck out of your dick?

only your balls

This body is enough for pretty much any femoid to drool over... if your face and height aren't deal breakers. Achievable without roids, especially if you're under 25.
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This is a professional photo

This guy would look average AF without the enhancement

 

[Angry_runt]

This is a professional photo
This guy would look average AF without the enhancement

Whatever, this one then.

Women are not very demanding in terms of body (except frame/height obviously). You can get 99% of the attraction without roids. It won't matter if your competition has a slightly prettier face tho.

 

[uninstall]

Whatever, this one then.
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Women are not very demanding in terms of body (except frame/height obviously). You can get 99% of the attraction without roids. It won't matter if your competition has a slightly prettier face tho.

u can get this body through diet, push-ups and pull-ups at home

it may be ok for women, but as you said - it won't compensate frame

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

chad can do it without steroids, because of his genetic makeup. Everyone else steroids or give UP

Don't roids shrink the fuck out of your dick?

testicles

 

[ShadowMonk]

This body is enough for pretty much any femoid to drool over... if your face and height aren't deal breakers. Achievable without roids, especially if you're under 25.
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This more or less.
The Natty limit is FFMI 26 for top genetics and FFMI 24 for most. You can Google what these look like. I am no where near this limit. I am in my fist year still.

That being said: there is absolutely nothing amoral or cheating about roids. They're just hormones and your body already produce them.
They can have severe consequences on your health, this is the only thing you should consider. Zyzz died from combining them with party drugs. Be careful.

 

[averageblokecel]

This body is enough for pretty much any femoid to drool over... if your face and height aren't deal breakers. Achievable without roids, especially if you're under 25.
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achievable without gymcelling?

 

[CaptainRussia]

achievable without gymcelling?

no. he got quite some muscle.

 

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no. he got quite some muscle.

actually yes

if you have a good frame

but form the vast majority the answer is no

 

[Deleted member 14490]

I want to do roids, but I'm already balding and I'll go from a 2 to a .5 if I bald completely.

 

[Spite]

Natural bodybuilding is the most pointless shit ever. Just accept that you're never going to be big and make your objective to be as lean as possible without losing your sex drive.

 

[Angry_runt]

achievable without gymcelling?

Probably, but it's much easier in the gym. I've made the mistake of wasting six months on workouts at home. Then I joined a gym and in one month I made more progress than in the previous six.

 

[Getlooksordie]

meanwhile Tyrone from the ghetto eats chicken mcnuggets all day, only drinks mountain dew and has a six pack abs and huge frame.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Probably, but it's much easier in the gym. I've made the mistake of wasting six months on workouts at home. Then I joined a gym and in one month I made more progress than in the previous six.

How come?

 

[Damo the incel]

Just inject 500 mg of test a week so

 

[Angry_runt]

How come?

Muscles grow from overload rather than fatigue and bodyweight exercises will only get you so far in terms of overloading your muscles. As you get stronger, you'll need to increase the weights you lift or your progress will stop (and doing more reps with the same light weight will result in fatigue rather than overload).
This doesn't mean you can't get in decent shape at home, but in the gym it'll be faster and safer and probably cheaper too.

 

[uninstall]

Muscles grow from overload rather than fatigue and bodyweight exercises will only get you so far in terms of overloading your muscles. As you get stronger, you'll need to increase the weights you lift or your progress will stop (and doing more reps with the same light weight will result in fatigue rather than overload).
This doesn't mean you can't get in decent shape at home, but in the gym it'll be faster and safer and probably cheaper too.

bluepill

gym only needed for lower body

get to 50 dips in a row = your biggest chest possible naturally

get to 30 pull-ups - you biggest lats possible naturally

that's fucking it

 

[Angry_runt]

get to 50 dips in a row = your biggest chest possible naturally

[citation needed]
You also need some equipment or some furniture contraption for dips.

get to 30 pull-ups - you biggest lats possible naturally

[citation needed]
You also need a dependable pullup bar which can be a bitch to install. I wouldn't trust those doorframe bars even if I had compatible doors.

gym only needed for lower body

Which you should work on unless you want to look comically unbalanced and be weak overall.

There's also shoulders which I don't know how you could do at home and which you should also work on if you want that nice V-taper (otherwise what's the point of big lats?)

Too many compromises when working out with bodyweight and you'd have to depend on doing tons of reps which would be boring as fuck and you still won't have as good muscle development as someone who does proper weight training.

Why not just go to the gym? Everything's already set up, you can work with whatever weight you want and you can do any exercise you need to (especially important when you get injuries and need to work around them).

 

[Lifeisbullshit95]

height and biceps size pls?