Outside of lack of relationships and sex, what other reasons do you think more young men are dropping out of society{actual answers please}

JohnWickCel

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Because while having no possible chance at sex and affection is horrible there are tons of other reasons to be miserable as a guy in 2020.
 
truthpill

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College debt and the fact that society is literally biased against men
 
Mogged Loner

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What do you think?
 
ShySaxon

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Nihilism. Apathy.
 
Hungarocel

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They realize theres nothing to life once you're out of school other than wageslaving for 40 years.
 
radishman

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The rent is TOO DAMN HIGH.

Wage slavery just to eek out a meager existence.
 
VirginAutistManlet

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There's been too many expansion packs/DLC for human history, everything is unlocked now, all the old players have everything, you cannot ever catch up as a new player, there's nothing left to explore or conquer. The next DLC pack that really changes things wont be at least until another 1000 to 10000 years.

Watch historical documentaries of any kind is a good suicide-fuel as a man, makes you realize you'll NEVER be exploring/conquering like men in the past did.

 
FlyFace

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Misread the title.
Ahh I see. Still Taxes are very unfairly distributed. Whores that open their legs and get pregnant suddenly get to burden all taxpayers for money. Like fuck that shit.
Not having a drivers license and getting mogged by those who do is a reason to drop out of society though tbh
Yeah a car does unlock things you don't have without one.
 
LastGerman

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Not having a drivers license and getting mogged by those who do is a reason to drop out of society though tbh
Although I kinda misread the title but having all odds against you and on top of that something important like obtaining your driver licence is much harder compared to other countries is the final nail in the coffin.

Yeah a car does unlock things you don't have without one.
Having a driver licence or ID for USA and car is absolutely significant. You have to have a driver licence and a car, otherwise working does not make any sense. I also have a thread about this topic: https://incels.co/threads/men-who-cannot-drive-should-not-be-allowed-to-work-how-to-fix-the-situation-and-the-general-problem-behind-it.169644/
 
Incel Gamer

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If they have rich parents then why work?
 
VirginAutistManlet

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If they have rich parents then why work?
Ive noticed a lot of rich kids unironically have this insecurity where they feel like they have to prove themselves by wage-cucking like a normie. Makes 0 sense to me.
 
Words2_live_bye

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Because while having no possible chance at sex and affection is horrible there are tons of other reasons to be miserable as a guy in 2020.
Literally being born as a man is a joke. Even if Chad or gigachad. Although your life would be better, if Chad, you would still be a man, and that's shit. Everything in life as a man in modern soyciety is garbage
 
TINMAN

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Economic inequality, it hits men especially hard. Even more so because women are now in the work force and they get preferential hiring.

50 years ago a minimum wage job could get you a house, these days a minimum wage job can't even keep you afloat.
 
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LiteralGoblin

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Lack of sex/relationships is like 90% of the reason for men abandoning society. I can't really think of any other reasons except for race related issues such as ethnic immigration into white countries, white colonizers destroying ethnic countries, stuff like that.
 
ionlycopenow

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Lack of sex/relationships is like 90% of the reason for men abandoning society. I can't really think of any other reasons except for race related issues such as ethnic immigration into white countries, white colonizers destroying ethnic countries, stuff like that.
They're also being treated like trash by everyone around them. It's a vicious cycle
 
geocentristcel

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Unfulfilling employment, educational institutions that shit on your gender the whole time you're in them, double standards, preferential treatment. Lack of reward for merit, hard work, or commitment. Wages have stagnated, if you know you're never getting your white picket fence life it's not a hard leap of the mind to conclude you can drastically reduce your contribution to society and instead do just the bare minimum for your own existence. Laying down, rotting and coping is more enjoyable than making other people rich as you grind towards a future that doesn't exist anymore, that you couldn't afford if it did.
 
JohnWickCel

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Unfulfilling employment, educational institutions that shit on your gender the whole time you're in them, double standards, preferential treatment. Lack of reward for merit, hard work, or commitment. Wages have stagnated, if you know you're never getting your white picket fence life it's not a hard leap of the mind to conclude you can drastically reduce your contribution to society and instead do just the bare minimum for your own existence. Laying down, rotting and coping is more enjoyable than making other people rich as you grind towards a future that doesn't exist anymore, that you couldn't afford if it did.
Great response. I personally can't see myself getting a career because like you say it's not going to work towards anything.
 
geocentristcel

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In addition, since we know women don't care about anything but looks now and even billionaires get divorce raped and cheated on, collecting resources is no longer a viable path to obtaining a mate. It's only logical to abandon failed mating strategies, and opt out if you don't have a chance, or quit working so hard and instead focus on looksmaxxing so you fuck for free. Why work 60 hour weeks, when you can work 20 hour weeks, gym and cope max while possibly mogging normies that are still on the cuck treadmill of society?

At this point continuing to pull the wagon that is society while it gets heavier and heavier with fewer and fewer rewards is only for the dumbest of the dumb. Way better to just hop in the wagon yourself and save your strength because when it finally grinds to a halt, you're going to need it for yourself and you don't want to be depleted for a society that doesn't care about you at all.
 
JohnWickCel

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In addition, since we know women don't care about anything but looks now and even billionaires get divorce raped and cheated on, collecting resources is no longer a viable path to obtaining a mate. It's only logical to abandon failed mating strategies, and opt out if you don't have a chance, or quit working so hard and instead focus on looksmaxxing so you fuck for free. Why work 60 hour weeks, when you can work 20 hour weeks, gym and cope max while possibly mogging normies that are still on the cuck treadmill of society?

At this point continuing to pull the wagon that is society while it gets heavier and heavier with fewer and fewer rewards is only for the dumbest of the dumb. Way better to just hop in the wagon yourself and save your strength because when it finally grinds to a halt, you're going to need it for yourself and you don't want to be depleted for a society that doesn't care about you at all.
This is good I wish I could save your comments because these are great explanations.
 
KingOfRome

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There are just too many men. Definitely more than we need as a society. I think for a lot of men, it's not so much that they're opting out as it is there's no real way to opt-in if you're "surplus".
 
geocentristcel

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There are just too many men. Definitely more than we need as a society. I think for a lot of men, it's not so much that they're opting out as it is there's no real way to opt-in if you're "surplus".
Definitely plays a part, but when all the lower rungs produce nothing but wage cuck misery it's not just the people not participating at all that are going to hate it.
 
KingOfRome

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Definitely plays a part, but when all the lower rungs produce nothing but wage cuck misery it's not just the people not participating at all that are going to hate it.
You still need money to survive. Unless you're on disability or have family to mooch off, you're either a wagecuck or homeless.
 
geocentristcel

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You still need money to survive. Unless you're on disability or have family to mooch off, you're either a wagecuck or homeless.
Yeah but there's a difference between bare minimum effort wagecucking out of necessity, while being as lazy, getting as many gibs as possible and tryhard style career maxxing that will lead nowhere.
 
deathsh+rt

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Lack of jobs, foids in positions where they can get away with false rape claims, society really let's men down in the mental health department as well.
 
Konon

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Lack of any higher ideals/people/religion to look up to. General hate from society. Injustices based on gender.
 
Slav_weebcel

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In addition, since we know women don't care about anything but looks now and even billionaires get divorce raped and cheated on, collecting resources is no longer a viable path to obtaining a mate. It's only logical to abandon failed mating strategies, and opt out if you don't have a chance, or quit working so hard and instead focus on looksmaxxing so you fuck for free. Why work 60 hour weeks, when you can work 20 hour weeks, gym and cope max while possibly mogging normies that are still on the cuck treadmill of society?

At this point continuing to pull the wagon that is society while it gets heavier and heavier with fewer and fewer rewards is only for the dumbest of the dumb. Way better to just hop in the wagon yourself and save your strength because when it finally grinds to a halt, you're going to need it for yourself and you don't want to be depleted for a society that doesn't care about you at all.
Ofc relationship is the main reason why men feel and are actually detached from the society, but its far from being the only reason.
There are a lot of social-econamical reasons for man to be unhappy. Finding a job that both doesn't drain your life forces out of you and gives good money is a near impossible thing in any country.
Also, if you live in a shit hole like me, then there is literally nothing to live for. Shitty job paying nearly nothing for full hours, bad ecology,medicine, high crime rates, corruption, impossible to buy a house/car, etc.Kinda makes sense to me why russians have such high suicide rates if you add getting cucked and replaced hard with muslim ethicities from Caucasus. I'm happy that my parents are earning much higher than average and I can cope hard while working at a low paying job with 0 effort needed. :musicfeels:
However, if they kick me out off the house, I will have to work at factory and spit my lungs after 5 years of doing so.
 
Personalityinkwell

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They realize theres nothing to life once you're out of school other than wageslaving for 40 years.
this, especially if you can't get a loyal loving woman
 
G

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Lack of a fair UBS system that benefit men.
 
universallyabhorred

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Difficulty finding employment which pays a livable wage, lacking close friendships with other men, receiving little validation from others, not being allowed to complain without being gaslighted and attacked and focusing on shitty copes which don't bring fulfillment.
 
JohnWickCel

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Difficulty finding employment which pays a livable wage, lacking close friendships with other men, receiving little validation from others, not being allowed to complain without being gaslighted and attacked and focusing on shitty copes which don't bring fulfillment.
I really don’t know how some guys on here can deny normies having a crappy life.
 
ExpiringAspirin

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In a foids infested soyciety including the workplace. All men are basically walking on ricepaper.
 
Chris_Jones

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Inceldom is only the beginning of your problems. EVERYONE treats you like shit. You struggle to get a job, and even if you do, you work like a slave for shit pay, and are bullied by your coworkers, and they will eventually lie and get you fired. Then your parents scream at you for not moving out, despite you doing everything you possibly can to do so. Eventually, everyone will have to accept the harsh truth of our world.
 
Cybersex is our hope

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Can't find many other reasons besides of
Lack of possibilities in relationships due to female hypergamy
Lack of jobs
Only jobs available are shitty paid jobs
Since you won't have a family you just don't care about society going to shit. You actually enjoy seeing it crumble
 
AloneInDarkness

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The copes at home alone have never been better. Internet, movies, music, video games, YouTube, discussion boards, porn, etc. all either cheap or for free that give us massive dopamine hits without ever leaving the comfort of home.
 
JohnWickCel

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Inceldom is only the beginning of your problems. EVERYONE treats you like shit. You struggle to get a job, and even if you do, you work like a slave for shit pay, and are bullied by your coworkers, and they will eventually lie and get you fired. Then your parents scream at you for not moving out, despite you doing everything you possibly can to do so. Eventually, everyone will have to accept the harsh truth of our world.
That last part is true from what a lot of normies say. They want a job but the only ones available pay crap so they don’t even have enough money for a crappy apartment.
 
Chris_Jones

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That last part is true from what a lot of normies say. They want a job but the only ones available pay crap so they don’t even have enough money for a crappy apartment.
Can't even cope in peace.
 
lastchancel

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everything is pointless. there is more suffering then joy on earth, happiness is transitory and leads to growing desires and distresses, the pain of the devoured animal is always far greater then the pleasure of the devourer.
 
JohnWickCel

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everything is pointless. there is more suffering then joy on earth, happiness is transitory and leads to growing desires and distresses, the pain of the devoured animal is always far greater then the pleasure of the devourer.
Can you give actual examples instead of that psuedo philosophy crap?
 
lastchancel

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Can you give actual examples instead of that psuedo philosophy crap?
unless you are a religioncel, life is inherently without meaning. the conclusion is irrelevant to the journey, it's pointless.
inb4 muh heaven response
 
lightskin2thousand0

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There's been too many expansion packs/DLC for human history, everything is unlocked now, all the old players have everything, you cannot ever catch up as a new player, there's nothing left to explore or conquer. The next DLC pack that really changes things wont be at least until another 1000 to 10000 years.

Watch historical documentaries of any kind is a good suicide-fuel as a man, makes you realize you'll NEVER be exploring/conquering like men in the past did.

history documentaries are good copes tho
 
JohnWickCel

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unless you are a religioncel, life is inherently without meaning. the conclusion is irrelevant to the journey, it's pointless.
inb4 muh heaven response
That's just more philosophy crap not an actual answer no one brought up god or the meaning of life we're talking about what reasons do men in 2020 have to keep them going.
 
lastchancel

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That's just more philosophy crap not an actual answer no one brought up god or the meaning of life we're talking about what reasons do men in 2020 have to keep them going.
you are missing the point. i'm saying there is no reason to keep going, ugly men are suffering needlessly by living.
 
lastchancel

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I'm talking about men in general.
okay ill answer it like its an exam paper question
Q:
Outside of lack of relationships and sex, what other reasons do you think more young men are dropping out of society{actual answers please}
A:
Outside of lack of relationships and sex, young men are dropping out of society because of an accumulation of many different negative things in life that differ on a person to person basis, however is overall compounded by the lack of meaning. To clarify; there's no reason to continue participating in society that rejects you, there's no reason to continue participating in anything. A lack of reason and meaning is central to causing young men to drop out of society.
 
JohnWickCel

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okay ill answer it like its an exam paper question
Q:
Outside of lack of relationships and sex, what other reasons do you think more young men are dropping out of society{actual answers please}
A:
Outside of lack of relationships and sex, young men are dropping out of society because of an accumulation of many different negative things in life that differ on a person to person basis, however is overall compounded by the lack of meaning. To clarify; there's no reason to continue participating in society that rejects you, there's no reason to continue participating in anything. A lack of reason and meaning is central to causing young men to drop out of society.
I meant a specific reason. No offense but you sound like your trying to be "smart".
 
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