The blackpill is the final step those who are mgtow and pua in 2020 are coping extremely hard and dont want to admit too inceldom how long csn they hold onto their delusions for
MGTOW is still good for normies and up, because marriage is cucked.
tbh I empathize with genuine MGTOW's not the coper incel in denial types.
Divorce rape is a real thing
They'll hold on until they get brutally divorce-raped or cucked by Tyrone
Then they'll either rope or come here
Then they'll either rope or come here
MGTOW is full of retarded divorced boomers, fuck them.
yea i agree you cant be MGTOW unless you've already had relationships and gfs. You are just incel if that is the case
Not sure about PUA, but the redpill and MGTOW aren’t dead. Both of their communities are still pretty active on YT, especially MGTOW from what I’ve seen
They're not really going their own way if they still pay taxes to support the gynocentric government.
MGTOW is retarded and I bet 80% of people who are "MGTOW" would stop being so if they got any female attention.
They’re unattractive men who are delusional about their place on the sexual hierarchy. They need the blackpill badly.
Mgtow just talk about woman all day they arent going there own way men sent there own way
Most of them think they're the ones who are rejecting foids. I can see them only rejecting foids who want them to betabux or marry them, but that's only the uncucked mgtow.
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I think most MGTOW realize they are MSTOW. They are basically incels who refuse to betabuxx woman who are 3 points below their looksmatch.
High iq.
When was the last time you saw a Chad go MGTOW, use Redpill techniques, or attend a PUA bootcamp? Dudes who get into this stuff are all low SMV men, often straight up incels in denial.
Mgtow guys was 6 to 7.5 when they are young and got married.
Agepill knocked them down to sub 5, and their wives cucked them and left them.
But even if they remain a 7, she would still cuck him with a younger Chad or Tyrone.
There is no escaping the blackpill, it's more powerful than a collapsed blackhole.
Agepill knocked them down to sub 5, and their wives cucked them and left them.
But even if they remain a 7, she would still cuck him with a younger Chad or Tyrone.
There is no escaping the blackpill, it's more powerful than a collapsed blackhole.
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Unless you earn money under the table in cash or with crypto it's difficult to avoid taxes
I don't get that impression from them. I think they just think women aren't worth pursuing. A lot of them aren't claiming to be chads but just regular guys.
Society wants people to think that and I think it ties into the whole idea of how society feels entitled to judge males negatively and claim they are lazy bums when they aren't unnecessarily productive or live what society considers a meaningful life.
Just because mgtow talk about women all day doesn't mean they aren't going their own way. They don't owe it to society to show they are going their own way in a way that society deems adequate.
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Tbh I have yet to learn the motives of mgtow, I never really cared about their movement, either way it's obsolete by now. Men think they can punish foids by going their own way and attracting them by doing so. But foids are heavily supported by this cucked society so they don't care about this movement. For them, these are just men they can point their finger at and shout "men evil".
lmao, all copes eventually come to an end
Only Chads can go MGTOW.
You know, I'm reading this very popular book, the subtle art of not giving a fuck. It's a good book, not the best out there, but it has a nice message.
It basically says:
"If you have a problem, just accept it and try finding a way of solving it. Running away from your problems is only going to create an endless vicious hellish cycle. Life is nothing but a continuous stream of problems, and in order to achieve true happiness we must overcome them. Hiding, running away, suppressing or doing anything of the sorts to get rid of a problem might give you a quick sensation of well-being, but in the end you'll only sweep your problems to under the carpet, and that'll eventually blow up on your face."
and
"The craving for positive feelings is, in fact, a bad necessity. As much as accepting a negative feeling is, indeed, a positive experience. The more you want to look good, the uglier you feel. The more you want to be rich, the poorer you feel. This is known as the "Reverse effort law", which is a concept proposed by philosopher mr. Alan Watts."
Anyways, it's a good book. Basically MGTOWS would be doing as the book suggests if this was their reasoning:
"Women don't want us, therefore, let us use that as an excuse to separate us from women."
Instead their reasoning is:
"Women are weird and bad, let's separate."
idk if it makes sense or not, I just wrote what came to my mind.
It basically says:
"If you have a problem, just accept it and try finding a way of solving it. Running away from your problems is only going to create an endless vicious hellish cycle. Life is nothing but a continuous stream of problems, and in order to achieve true happiness we must overcome them. Hiding, running away, suppressing or doing anything of the sorts to get rid of a problem might give you a quick sensation of well-being, but in the end you'll only sweep your problems to under the carpet, and that'll eventually blow up on your face."
and
"The craving for positive feelings is, in fact, a bad necessity. As much as accepting a negative feeling is, indeed, a positive experience. The more you want to look good, the uglier you feel. The more you want to be rich, the poorer you feel. This is known as the "Reverse effort law", which is a concept proposed by philosopher mr. Alan Watts."
Anyways, it's a good book. Basically MGTOWS would be doing as the book suggests if this was their reasoning:
"Women don't want us, therefore, let us use that as an excuse to separate us from women."
Instead their reasoning is:
"Women are weird and bad, let's separate."
idk if it makes sense or not, I just wrote what came to my mind.
The idea that women would give a flying fuck if a bunch of ugly men take themselves out of the dating pool is absolutely hilarious. Redpillers are nearly as moronic and deluded as bluepillers.
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Those communities are filled with incels in denial
"Not worth pursuing" yet they can't stop talking about them.
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Because the male sex drive is powerful and makes itself known in one way or another.
One way the male sex drive makes itself known is chasing after and pursuing women.
Another way the male sex drive makes itself known is talking about women and not being able to stop thinking about the affect women have on society.
That's not that healthy. They should at least escortcel, but you don't even hear them talking about that much.
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I agree it's not healthy but what prevents a lot of them from moving past is that even in their own spaces trolls come and harass and bully them and throw shaming tactics, constantly trying to convince them that their woman left them because they were ugly no good people and that they deserved it. They don't even get a place to rant to other divorced males without being shamed by women and women worshiping parasites.
There's probably a lot of mgtow that live in America and Canada where escortcelling comes with a legal risk.
The chances of being caught fucking a hooker is extremely low. But if they're worried about that they should at least talk about escortceling in other places, like mexico or SEA or EE.
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Some of them do especially because some of them are white and can SEAmaxx.
But alone escortceling isn't sufficient. It's the constant reminders that men are treated and regarded as second class citizens by default unless women particularly like them that is the main issue bothering them and a lot of MRAs and they aren't wrong about that being as big of a concern.
It really hurts a male that isn't selfhating to see society only using and making examples out of the everyday male at their expense and only paying lip service about how not all men are bad if they sacrifice themselves in some way for society.
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MGTOW are men sent their own way
I wonder how mgtow and mra's acknowledge the crap men deal with, then turn around and make fun of incels for not being able to get laid, even though 90% of them are in the same boat or close to it. Escortceling by itself won't solve all our problems but it will make life easier for low status men. If they don't escortcel they'll turn into soyfags, or the opposite can happen and they can become violent criminals.
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I don't see mgtow and mras making fun of incels except for the incels that want to go ER or think only chad can enjoy life.
The ER part is because they don't want more excuses for outsiders to portray them as violent. Indeed a lot of feminists and tradcucks had tried that in the past but it didn't really stick because there were no violent incidents involving MRAs or mgtows in public and no mass shooters cited that them as inspiration unlike with incels.
The part about how they object to the idea that only chad can enjoy life is more because they see it as confirming society's belief that only men that are attractive to women deserve to be treated with basic dignity and be left alone and not mocked.
Most of them genuinely don't get what incels are about like most other people. They don't understand that being an incel is as much an issue of being socially unwanted and treated badly by society as a nonchad male as it is about not being able to have a woman be attracted to you.
But if there are people that are most open to understanding this other than incels it is MRAs and mgtows imo.
I know people hate mgtow and redpill but it isnt wrong though since the redpill is an encapsulation of the blackpill. It talks about the hypergamous and greedy nature of females. Shows how marriages, relationships, divorces, and sex are completely tilted in the favor of women. Redpill & mgtow is esentially a part of the whole truth that is the blackpill.
They're coping if they don't see that chads are treated a million times better. They cannot solve the problem of non chad men being treated worse until they admit this is what's going on in our cucked society.
They just need some sense slapped into them, then hopefully they'll stop acting like bluepilled cucks.
I don't think MGTOW has died. Go to any MGTOW youtube channel, almost every video has thousands of views and likes. Its trending.
like I said
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Agree but the reason why them and a lot of normies don't see how chads are treated much better than other guys is because chad is pretty rare IRL and women always virtue signal about as attracted as they are to chad they would only consider something with him short term and not past that. The truth is that women would and do give up everything for chad if they think that's what it will take to end up with him long term. It's just that the standards for what are considered a chad by women are so high that most men don't meet these standards and so most men don't regularly really see how well women treat chads.
When MRAs and mgtows talk about the bad way men are treated they are mostly referring to the vast majority of normie nonchad males when they talk about men.
MRAs are kind of a lost cause because they are always in PR mode. But frankly I think a lot of mgtow just don't care about anything that much anymore if they are past discovering how women act and it's old to them now.
They're cucks if they think its ok for their wives to have fucked a bunch of chads "short term" in their prime years, then got married to them in their post wall years. Only cucks think you can turn a whore into a housewife. A non traditional rostie doesn't deserve marriage and to be treated traditionally, that treatment should only be reserved for teen virgins. If those copers saw some chadfish tinder experiments that might help them stop being deluded about the power of chads in this cucked soyciety.
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With all due respect I believe you are letting perfect by the enemy of good. At the very least MRAs and mgtows don't desire to shut up incels or dismiss them.
@FrailPaleStaleMale I believe has linked to things on the MRA site avoiceformen where they try to show understanding of incels and not spread lies about them. That's immediately a lot more than what the rest of society does tbh
With the age difference between a lot of blackpilled incels and MRAs and mgtows it isn't as easy for MRAs and mgtows to see the point of view of people here and agree with it. I'm sure if a lot of them spent some time on the main campus of the some of the biggest American universities for some months they would start to see more clearly what people here are talking about. You really don't get the full picture of what the blackpill is like until it's in your face when you live on a college campus imo.
High iq. I only became fully blackpilled when I went to college. Year after year of seeing others having fun and fucking whores, while I go back alone to my apartment every night really drives the point of the blackpill home. I didn't feel the effects of the blackpill in community college that much, but that's probably because I thought things will be better in college and the degeneracy going on wasn't in my face as much.
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tbh it's so easy to think a lot of the things talked about here are exaggerated. Living on a college campus in America exposes you first hand to the blackpill. It's only a matter of when you put two and two together even if it doesn't happen right away.
Community college is more like high school and the blackpill isn't that clear. Again to really see the blackpill you need to live in a dorm on a college campus in America where you walk regularly to class and have to eat most meals in the dining halls.
Overhearing what others are saying when waiting for classes, walking to classes and in the dining halls is especially disconcerting. You have no choice but to hear it. It's impossible to completely tune it out. It's in your face.
This gives me an idea. I bet a lot of college students can get blackpilled if we make it a mission to put up incels.co posters in high traffic areas on campuses. There are many bulletin boards you can post stuff on, and with corona you can easily wear a mask as a disguise so no one notices you. I saw a thread of a guy doing it.
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A lot of college students are by default more redpilled than bluepilled these days tbh
But nothing, no posters, spoken word etc makes the blackpill more apparent than having to experience the mogging that comes from tall white and black guys walking around and running around shirtless and all the foids miring.
Even more so when the chad is a lot older than a lot of other students.
Lifefuel. That gives me hope for the future. No wonder most soycucks are 40+, or homos who never dealt with the blackpill as severely as the newer generations of non chad straight men.
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And with more guys having to go to college it will only continue. Tbh having these things constantly shoved in your face as an unattractive male is exhausting and that's before you factor in the loneliness and college work hanging over your head.
Being blackpilled before you to go college is death unless you aren't already looksmaxxed and have been with foids.
interesting post im not running away from my problems but I have accepted the problems as is and have moved on its no point of trying to fix something that is almost impossible to fix
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