A better question would be, who decided suffering is something bad, when there's no God and thus no moral objectivity?
If suffering isn't bad please send me a video of you pulling your finger nails out of your hand, I mean suffering isn't definitively a bad thing that isn't enjoyable, so please prove me wrong lol
You just sound disingenuous, I don't believe for a second you actually believe anything you just said here
God decided what's just and unjust because He's the one who CREATED EVERYTHING, kek.
I like that you had to laugh at the end of this sentence, its as if you know it sounds like bullshit too
How isn't what you described the very definition of an unjust tyranny? (because that's exactly what it is)
Its "might make right", you yourself have already admitted that you know God is unjust, you are just afraid to accept that conclusion due to your fear of God
Which begs the question, if people only obey God out of fear of hell, will God even let those people into heaven, or will be punish them for not "truly loving him"?
When you are dealing with crazy, there are no rules, a lot of Christians are in for a rude awakening lol
He's not in the same category of some random human who says "I'm a good person because I decided I'm a good person". He is the parameter, whether you like it or not. If anything exists, including these concepts, it's because of Him.
Ok so by your logic, if God comes down from heaven right now and rapes your mother in front of you, he's good because "he's the parameter", no it doesn't work like that
If you say God makes the rules I agree
If you say he doesn't have to follow the rules and he'll still be "good", you are wrong, he'd just be an evil unstoppable hypocrite
What you don't seem to get is that by your own words you are saying that "there is no such thing as good"
BECAUSE YOU HAVE DEFINED GOOD AS "WHATEVER GOD WANTS TO GIVE HIMSELF A PASS FOR"
So rape isn't "evil", its only evil if anyone but God does it or anyone does it when not sanctioned by God (and yes, God has sanctioned the rape and murder of many people in the bible)
There's no such thing as "good" in your world view, and you don't even realise it, there's just what God says you can do and what he gives himself a pass to do
That's true, but if we didn't have the option of rejecting Him, we would be mere robot slaves and not capable of a genuine relationship with Him.
Are you retarded?, we don't actually have an option to reject him, the rule is - "Do what I say or get tortured for eternity", people aren't "rejecting God", they simply don't believe God exists
If it was an indisputable fact that the God of the Christian bible existed, because he literally talked to people, held press conferences, reminded people about his existence, etc, then nobody would sin, because everybody would fear hell
You are speaking as if everyone on the planet KNOWS God exists but some people say "fuck it, hell isn't that bad"
No, many simply don't believe he exists, so there really isn't any choice, and notice you yourself mention hell as a threat
HERE'S A SIMPLE QUESTION, IF HELL DID NOT EXIST, AND EVERYBODY GOES TO HEAVEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT SINS THEY COMMITTED, WOULD YOU EVEN FOLLOW GODS RULES?
The answer is no, nobody would, because they are inconveniences, and if you can still go to heaven regardless of the rules, then you are going to do what benefits you. Fear is the only reason you follow Gods laws.
God exists throughout all infinity, he created us to have such legitimate company.
You don't know that God exists, that's the point, that's why everyone on the planet isn't a Christian, because nobody knows
Else you wouldn't call it
FAITH
Nobody has
FAITH in gravity, you know it exists, you can test its existence right now
You experience its power and influence everyday
The existence of God is based on
FAITH not
PROOF
When God proves himself to exist, I will "fall in line", until then I will function as if I live in a world devoid of God, because funnily enough, his current actions reflect the idea that he doesn't exist at all
So basically, even if you want to pretend you know better than God and think He's evil or anything, the fact is, He still exists.
HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT SPECIFICALLY THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE IS THE "ONE TRUE GOD"?
Aren't you assuming too much (you are using circular logic, you need to learn to stop doing that)
How do you know that some other religion isn't right, and its their God that is the "one true God"?
Seriously, do you realize that you only know of this specific God, because you were born in the country you are, and the exact specific events that happened in your life led to you learning about the Christian God.
You could have been born in some remote place, far outside of European influence, and
NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN GOD
This just reminds me of my favorite image when it comes to questions about the Christian religion:
Nowadays I personally think hell won't be eternal. I think people will burn there until all their sins are payed for and then cease to exist.
JFL so why even fear hell then, at most the average atheist will spend a month in hell then, they didn't murder, or rape, or torture, or commit any extreme violence or wrongdoing against anyone
So if your punishment in hell reflects your sins, the average person won't face much pain in hell at all
So isn't that even more of a reason to not care about God's laws?
God is merciful. Also, if you think about it, if hell was eternal,
people condemned to hell would also have eternal life,
even if in a horrible way
Jesus said that only those who believe in Him have eternal life.
The only rule you have to follow to get eternal life in heaven is accepting the gift of eternal salvation through accepting Christ and what He did for you
I think I'll end this here and I'm not even going to address this BS, I have to assume you are trolling at this point to even try to argue that "well eternal torture means you are alive so Jesus did come through on his promise"
I'm done
You are exhibit A of why I'd say if you are religious you are illogical, you can't be both a logical person and a religious person, logic and religion are diametrically opposed.