[Blackpill] Response To: "You're Not Entitled To Sex"

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Truly a high IQ post.
We'll written.

If I am not accepted by the society, then I will contribute nothing to it.
I will be a leech that drains as much resources as possible.
If I am denied neetbuxx, I will make my money illegally.
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Good stuff. Entitlement is a human construct that only exists as far as humans agrees to uphold the social contract, if women wants to go with their own way "you're not entitled to x" then the deal is off and we're back to barbarism. I think that society, which rests upon the social contract, is fundamentally a good thing but not if a big part of it has to be slaves. It's just sad that people can't see the true value of men and realize how much we're carrying women in society.
 
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It's just sad that people can't see the true value of men and realize how much we're carrying women in society.
I think its much worse than that, the people in power and the average person are already aware of how much we are carrying society as a whole

They are merely trying to optimize output and minimize input, men are the most objectified sex, society is quite literally trying to test and see how little of the contract they have to reciprocate while we still do our part

Basically like seeing how much you can cut employees pay while increasing their hours, to find a "sweet spot" for maximum output and minimal input

By the time they stop, sad truth is most men will be "alright" with it because when me finally "rise up" they'll start making minuscule concessions and the average man will fool himself into thinking that "he fought and won" because he's ignoring how much he's already lost to begin with

This is why spreading the black pill is so important, so that men don't lose perspective and don't fall for the trick and be good little subjects in this experiment
 
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It's crazy that while this is a simple and fundamental concept that exists through nature, it's been pushed aside by society and labeled as 'too aggressive.' As hard as it can be to acknowledge at times (we all want to believe that people can just be civil), civil and obedient behaviors rely on there being a reward for staying within the boundaries. Simply outlining a set of rules and saying "breaking these rules is bad" does not give people adequate reason to follow the rules; even if this works in the short term, it will fail eventually.

What practical solutions are there? It's hard to say. We can't exactly tell foids to bypass normal courting and have sex with men they don't remotely like, but at the same time there needs to be a shift in the expectations of women regarding the kind of men they should expect. I've seen posts calling for women to raise their standards and demand good looks, personality and great sex all in one package. Such a perfect man isn't realistic, nor is there any indication that having less than this will result in an unfulfilling relationships.

If there's one thing even normies and cucks should take away from this it's that there is nothing remotely evil about men wanting relationships. If women learn to adjust their standards and be more cooperative with male efforts, we will probably see a fall in the incel-related violence that the media loves to talk about.

Very good post OP
 
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i am entitled
 
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The same cycle of religion and traditionalism - wealth- degeneracy-then the collapse of a nation keeps repeating it self. I read a short little essay called the fate of empires. We are now at the hedonistic-degenerate stage. Either a major violent outbreak is gonna happen that will reset the god damn cycle and create some sort of religion that will appease the sexually starved men and cause them to contribute to society or what i fear the most is nothing is going to happen. SInce nowadays testosterone is so god damn low and combine that with the endless entertainment the soy and Gmos that have pacified men.
 
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or what i fear the most is nothing is going to happen. SInce nowadays testosterone is so god damn low and combine that with the endless entertainment the soy and Gmos that have pacified men.
This

This is why I say guys going on about - "just sit back and do nothing, society will collapse on its own" are coping and naive


The same things that happened in the past are happening now, the difference is we have the social customs and resources to make those things non-issues, endless pacifiers to keep men relatively "in check" so no real rebellion takes place, so if we want a collapse were going to have to be active about it and ensure that it comes to fruition, because without action it won't
 
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Low IQ, most people here feel like they do deserve looksmatch virgin LTR's and sex. It's way more important than some soy infested normies stigmatizing or calling out people identifying as an incel/agreeing with the blackpill. If tomorrow suddenly non blackpillers/non incels would accept our views and not shame us for it, our life circumstances would improve from absolutely shit to ever so slighty less absolutely shit.

Also were did you pull those numbers from (5% wanting culturally enforced monogamy and the rest just wants to not be stigmatized or called out by normies/soys), your ass?

Bringing back the patriarchy or quickly developing westworld tier foidbots are the only solutions to this problem, period.
 
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This

This is why I say guys going on about - "just sit back and do nothing, society will collapse on its own" are coping and naive


The same things that happened in the past are happening now, the difference is we have the social customs and resources to make those things non-issues, endless pacifiers to keep men relatively "in check" so no real rebellion takes place, so if we want a collapse were going to have to be active about it and ensure that it comes to fruition, because without action it won't
another thing that has been on my mind is that god damn CYCLE I FUCKING HATE IT and i have a valid reason as to why. Let's say it were to god damn happen it will be incels fighting incels or normie-tier men while chad sits in the fucking background and fucks the women. What i'm basically saying is that we are sacrificing our selves for Chad. How fucking ucked is that? Wasn't there some stats that a lot of men went to war and 1 high quality men stayed and impregnated all the women. And that high-quality men just happened to be Chad. ALso we will be sacrificing our selves to soros and other god damn degenerate Elites that control us like pawns
 
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Read every word.
I'm glad this got necroposted.
 
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Wouldn't have said it better high iq post. If only normies read this.
 
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If men arnt entitled to sex(most basic human need after survival), women arnt entitled to safety from non violent men. high iq
 
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Hmm, I feel sorry for people who are so boring that their analysis ends at "Life isn't fair'". Maybe it could make sense to say if the discussion is purely personal, but let's zoom out. Let's think of the historically identifiable phenomenon of low-status males and their actions as a group, and just the general antagonism between the sexes overall. What will come in the future when this antagonism deepens and female sexual selection starts damaging society as a whole, if that's not already started now? Thoughts of this should be the endpoint of any talk about incel or the blackpill. There will be no room for phrases like "Life isn't fair" when the discussion reaches this point. This is why incel rhetoric shouldn't focus on the personal level.
 
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If men arnt entitled to sex(most basic human need after survival), women arnt entitled to safety from non violent men. high iq
Life. Isn't. Fair.

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some of those comments in that post are so black-pilling
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Hmm, I feel sorry for people who are so boring that their analysis ends at "Life isn't fair'". Maybe it could make sense to say if the discussion is purely personal, but let's zoom out. Let's think of the historically identifiable phenomenon of low-status males and their actions as a group, and just the general antagonism between the sexes overall. What will come in the future when this antagonism deepens and female sexual selection starts damaging society as a whole, if that's not already started now? Thoughts of this should be the endpoint of any talk about incel or the blackpill. There will be no room for phrases like "Life isn't fair" when the discussion reaches this point. This is why incel rhetoric shouldn't focus on the personal level.
High IQ.
 
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If men arnt entitled to sex(most basic human need after survival), women arnt entitled to safety from non violent men. high iq

My thinking is different , if im not fucking you and your not my women, ur not intiitled to my protection,safety or resources for you or ur children.

The only thing you get is basic civility, and that i wont harm you,or your children.
 
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The most high IQ thread i've read so far,i knew i wasn't entitled to sex but seeing everyone around me saying how they enjoy and want more of it,makes me feel like a complete fucking loser,imagine not being able to fullfil a basic human need such as sex,in reality i'm able to have sex,my dick isn't broken or anything jfl...i just don't compliment certain requirements for women,which of course are mostly physical traits.
 
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High IQ thread, this should be stickied as it completely depletes the core norm of soyciety and the npcs who sheep along it.
 
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This

This is why I say guys going on about - "just sit back and do nothing, society will collapse on its own" are coping and naive


The same things that happened in the past are happening now, the difference is we have the social customs and resources to make those things non-issues, endless pacifiers to keep men relatively "in check" so no real rebellion takes place, so if we want a collapse were going to have to be active about it and ensure that it comes to fruition, because without action it won't
While I do agree that LDARing and opting out won't necessarily bring society to its knees, since the improvement in technology, globalization and robots have drastically decreased the need for workforce thus men today are more disposable than ever, how can a low status man harm society while being productive and getting a job ("respecting his end of the contract" shall we say) just in order to pay for his copes/escortcelling (I'm referring to your thread about inceldom as a blessing in disguise) while getting nothing in return (women don't respect their end of the contract anymore). What's an active way of hurting this system in your opinion?
 
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based, love seeing an actual high IQ thread every now and again
 
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1. Nobody is entitled to anything

Entitlements are a figment of imagination, they exist only in the minds of humans, and function only within societies where they are allowed to function, and are facilitated (usually through tax collection to fund said "entitlement programmes")

Pension, welfare, clean water, education, nobody is really entitled to any of it if were being objective and honest.

2. Incels don't feel entitled to sex, they simply WANT sex

I keep seeing the "entitlement" argument repeated everywhere and it is literally just a strawman argument, propping up a stance so absurd that you can't help but be right being against it, heck even I agree with being against it, because its egotistical and illogical for anyone to think they literally DESERVE anything, a normies reasoning for being against it would likely be more emotionally based though, more like - "women are people too, this is so misogynistic, its so hurtful, etc, etc".

Are there a few incels actually going around saying and believing that they "deserve" sex and are entitled to it, yes, but those men are idiots, they are outliers, any logical person knows full well nobody "deserves" anything. Most incels adhere to the "black pill philosophy", and a key "tenant" of that is basing ones life choices and interpretation of observations, on cold hard logic, so I doubt most incels (or even 5% of incels) actually believe they DESERVE sex

Incels simply just want, just like every other human on this planet that wants, to try and paint incels as this collective of egotistical males, that all think they are entitled to sex (women's bodies) is a falsehood that is often peddled by the media and society at large.

You see because its much easier to simply create a false narrative that can be argued against, than to argue against the actual thing. Paint incels as malicious and egotistical instead of frustrated and suicidal, and its much easier to demonize incels and garner support against them.

3. Disenfranchised Males = Self Destructive Males

There's this african proverb that I think perfectly describes whats taking place between modern society and average/below average males.

"If the young are not initiated in the tribe, they will burn down the village just to feel its warmth."

Modern society is extremely sexualized, there is no escape from sex as a man in these times, which is why it feels like you're being trolled whenever people say the all too cliche phrase "sex isn't the most important thing in life", nice strawman argument, now simply wanting sex because its being shoved down your throat at every waking moment, is equal to thinking its the most important thing in the world. Statements like that are nothing but dismissive shaming and silencing tactics.

Sex is in the news papers, magazines, tv, movies, video games, its in advertisements, bill boards, the internet, etc. People need to try and understand how "dystopian" of a reality this would all seem to a man who is unable to acquire sex due to unrealistic and unfair female standards that only exist due to various societal changes that resulted from feminism. Its like a sick joke were forced to live through. Everyone is telling us to just "get over it" while ironically enjoying sex lives themselves and boasting/talking about it at every waking moment.

Imagine if you woke up and basically everyone on the planet had an expensive sports car, all you see are people around you driving it, everyone with a sports car gets treated differently than those who don't, they have higher social status, etc. For some reason you can't get one no matter how much you adhere to the advice suggested by sports car owners. Everytime you complain about the biased system that keeps you from getting one, someone tells you - "there are more important things in life than sports cars", they then later proceed to talk with their friends about all the awesome sports cars they drove, post about the current sports car they have leased, and make instagram and other media posts about how great their sports car driving life is and how great they are at driving sports cars.

Quite obviously these people are being disingenuous, they know your complaints are legitimate, they don't actually follow their own words and they glorify sports cars and ownership of it ad nauseum, really they just want people without sports cars to STFU and deal with it, live without having a sports car and stop ruining the experience for the rest of them. Its really fucked up but that is societys mindset towards men who can't get sex, they know that argument is BS, they know they are lying and sex is of the utmost importance to every human (its not the most important thing, but its really really up there on the list, some might argue 2nd or 3rd place). They only repeat this BS because its really just about shaming and silencing men for daring to make society even feel a tad bit guilty or responsible for our current state of being disenfranchised. They really just expect incels to "STFU and take one for the team".

Sex is clearly a vital part of every humans existence, a man doesn't even "become a man" in a sense within society until he has sex, in essence a lot of men have not undergone their "right of passage" to become part of the "tribe" that is modern human civilization.

This is why all of these mass shootings are taking place, its started to branch off into other things like the "Thot Audit", more and more things like this are going to keep happening until society finally acknowledges this problem and begins to make changes.

So as it stands we now have a significant and growing pool of sexually starved men, who due to this are angry, violent, irritable and suicidal, seriously how does society expect this to play out, the most dangerous animal is the one backed into a corner with nothing to lose, when someone doesn't care if they die, worse yet they want to die just so their sad existence can end, there is no reasoning with that person, they are on a "war path", you either kill them, give that person what they want, or you get out of their way as they proceed to claim what they want.

Society expects us not to burn the village down when it won't initiate us into the tribe, that's whats truly outrageous, not the violence of disenfranchised men, but the fact that society actually expects us to just remain docile and accept this reality that has been forced upon us.

4. Women aren't entitled to safety

People don't seem to understand the danger of looking the collective male populace in they eyes, and telling them they aren't entitled to something that not too long ago they would just taking by force as a norm.

Men reformed themselves and created societies with laws and codes of conduct because it benefited the collective, especially the collective male populace, this was the function of "patriarchal societies". To manage a safe and fair distribution of resources, and that includes sexual and reproductive resources.

Virginity was a prerequisite for a woman to be "marriage material" because men wanted to be sure that when they married a woman she would be less likely to cheat, as she'd be more likely to be satisfied sexually with her partner due to lack of "sexual experience". It also ensured that your investment would be worth it as you aren't footing the bill for "used goods", that may sound cruel but men have to basically invest a lot into a woman's very being, even more so today, get divorced once and half of your wealth goes to another person, and these days the women aren't even virgins, marriage is truly a raw deal in this modern era.

Marriage as an institution existed for various reasons, it was used to create familial ties, for political reasons, etc, but most importantly to give a sense of assurance to men that the children their wives gave birth do were indeed theirs (hence virginity being the key defining trait of "marriage material"), and they could pass down their name and wealth to their children.

For the same reason Female Promiscuity was shamed and led to social ostracization. Womens hypergamy had to be kept in check otherwise the relationship dynamics between men and women would fall apart and so would the "family unit" which is basically the "building block" of society.

Crimes like Rape were especially frowned upon because it made a woman unfit for marriage and ruined her entire life, it also went against the civility agreement between men who as a collective all wanted their respective women in their lives to be safe and remain "their women" and not be "tarnished" by another man.

I hope people get the point here, the purpose of these laws and societal norms were to ensure a code of conduct amongst men, so that we would as a collective agree to allow each other to pursue and court women in a safe and organized manner, unimpeded by other men in an "unfair" manner, we all had a fair chance. There was a "social contract" at play here.

In these modern times the social contract is no longer functioning, expecting men not to regress and go back to the days of rape and violence when the contract is no longer being enforced and/or adhered to, is what is truly outrageous, and not the acts themselves. Men aren't entitled to sex?, true I agree, but women aren't entitled to safety either, they never were entitled to it and they never will be, it was a "provision" offered by men to women for co-operating with men to facilitate the social contract. The safety resided within the rule set of the social contract, which is no longer at play here, so a significant and increasing number of males are seeing no reason to function as "civil" men, there's no logical reason too, why be civil when you essentially are not even part of civilization, civility its no longer to our benefit. Women's actions have thrown the entire system out of order, and the violent responses of men today are retaliatory. Society is basically trying to make average/below average males into somewhat of a "slave class" that offers their labor and utility, contributes to society, all while being barred from enjoying a basic pleasure that all the female citizens get to enjoy despite contributing less and having to risk their lives less.

Ask yourself who are really the crazy ones, the men who go out committing acts of violence or "opt out" of society, or the society that expected these men not to do this, despite significantly ruining the quality of life for the collective male populace, and having the gall to ask them to keep up their end of the social contract and be "good little boys and contribute to society as upstanding citizens" :feelskek:. Are you fucking serious, no wonder men are opting out of society, no wonder men are going out on murder rampages.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2017/03/09/american-men-are-giving-up-on-jobs/

There's no real motivation to bother trying, to be a "hard worker", to be "civilized", when your reward at the end of the day is to get married to used goods who is likely only settling for you because she's aged past her prime and has a ton of baggage, to top it off with no fault divorce laws she can easily just leave with half of your wealth, and modern society actually celebrates and endorses female promiscuity and cheating on men, so that great investment you made isn't even guaranteed to be solely yours to enjoy JFL. Men have literally no motivation to be "good people", anyone who thinks people should be "good" for the sake of "being good" is an illogical idiot that doesn't get how reality actually works.

In the bible there's heaven and hell, in human laws there are cash rewards for helping law enforcement with certain tasks, and there are fines and jail time for committing crimes or breaking minor laws.

GOOD AND EVIL CAN ONLY BE TRULY (OBJECTIVELY) DEFINED BY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE REWARDS AND PUNISHMENTS ASSOCIATED RESPECTIVELY, that is how we truly distinguish a good act from a bad one, if we rely on subjective opinion based criteria then anyone and everyone is both right and wrong, good and bad, based on their own personal reasonings and whims. If the bible said that no matter what you do everyone goes to heaven, but "please still don't sin" nobody would give a fuck about the rules, most every Christian would be sinning without any restraint or repentance, rules mean nothing without a reward and punishment system in place.

To address another cliche statement - "where have all the good men gone", I ask "by what objective criteria are you ascribing the label "good" ". Reinstate a sufficient "rewards system" for males and you'll see all those men come running back.
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An entitlement is just that, like a legal entitlement, given by a government.

So yes, I'm not entitled to a girlfriend, that's 100% correct, the state currently won't give me one.

It's a meaningless basis to argue from.
 
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Good post

Car example was funny
 
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TL;DR When a foid says you're not entitled to sex, say you agree, and then tell her she's not entitled to civilization as you bury her avatar under several blocks of adamantium in Minecraft.
 
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