Serious Sad but true: terrorism actually works, the incel shooters put the incel question on the map

[AnonAutist]

Sad but true, if an oppressed and invisible minority with serious problems and lack of political capital (i.e. no politician can use the group to advance his own career) wants serious attention for its plight resorting to becoming troublemakers and terrorists is actually the way to get attention. Just something I thought of after May 23rd and the recent thread on the gigantic amount of bluepill lurkers on the forum. A lot of 'experts' are now watching and paying attention, but only after rare, extremely violent outward expressions of festering rage and pain induced by years of loneliness, prolonged rejection, atomization and social frustration.

From a very well written 2016 literature review paper on inceldom from the perspective of actual sociologists and sexuologists (not media and communication 'scholars' reviewing forum and social media postings through the lens of postmodern theory) admitting they were and remain mostly blind w.rt. inceldom question. Sexlessness and inceldom were previously only studied amongst the elderly, severely physically handicapped, sexless marriages and the very religious. Most academics in the past simply assumed that incels had the same opportunities as normies but simply choose to remain incel to focus on religion or on school work.

Virginity in Early Adulthood. Most of the literature on sexual delay and virginity in adolescence has documented their “positive” correlates. However, when virginity continues into early adulthood, different factors are likely to explain this delay. Since the paradigm on adolescent sexuality has shifted from a risky vision leading to abstinence-only sex education to the recognition of sexuality as a developmental task of the second decade of life, an increasing number of studies are now documenting the correlates and predictors of virginity in early adulthood. For instance, one study showed that adult virgins have higher odds of being overweight and of being perceived as physically unattractive [72]. Four additional studies reported that adult virgins have greater probabilities of never having been in a romantic relationship [47,68,73,74]. Moreover, in a qualitative study conducted among 82 involuntary celibate adults aged 18 to 64 years, Donnelly and colleagues [48] found that nearly all adult virgins never dated anyone, including in adolescence. Thus, findings converge to support the importance of romantic and sexual experiences during adolescence for ongoing romantic and sexual development in adulthood. Additionally, this study revealed that these adult virgins perceived themselves as being very shy and unable to establish social contacts, and reported body image issues, such as being overweight and perceiving their physical appearance to be an obstacle to their sexuality [48]. In summary, research on adulthood virginity, although embryonic, has started to uncover that there are several reasons for remaining a virgin in early adulthood, some relating to personal choices, and others being more egodystonic and linked to a lack of sexual opportunities.

Therefore, one of the issues for scholars focusing on virginity is the diversity among this population, and the distinction between youth who have never had dyadic erotic experiences, on the one hand, and those who abstain from coitus but engage in other partnered sexual behaviors, on the other. The latter are often referred to as “technical virgins” in the literature [75]. These individuals have partnered sexual repertoires that include various sexual experiences, like mutual touching of the genitals, oral sex, and more rarely anal sex, but refrain from engaging in penile-vaginal intercourse [75,76]. Various reasons can motivate this technical virginity, ranging from religiosity to wanting to avoid potential negative consequences of sexual activity [34], or waiting for the “right person” [75]. Sexual-minority youth who have never engaged in sexual intercourse with someone of the other-sex are also often confounded with heterosexual virgins if no questions on sexual orientation are asked [47]. Thus, technical virgins seem to be in different psychosexual developmental trajectories than those who never experienced any sexual contact with a partner because of difficulties to attract one, or of very little interest in sexual interactions [77]. Because most studies have conflated these two distinct populations, our knowledge on the prevalence and characteristics of emerging adults without any sexual experience with another person remains very limited [72].

From Sexuality (and Lack Thereof) in Adolescence and Early Adulthood: A Review of the Literature by Boislard et al. (2016).

The reality is that nobody outside of the incel sphere actually understands, or has paid much attention until now. Terror working sets a bad precedent and just shows that institutional social science and journalism are severely lacking if it takes mass shooters to draw attention to structural problems.

 

[desperatecel178]

It doesn't make them care about the problem. It just makes them hate us even more.

 

[Mainländer]

This world is the realm of satan, so it's natural that evil conducts pay off here.

 

[Speedloader]

This world is the realm of satan, so it's natural that evil conducts pay off here.

 

[Deleted member 26032]

Typical greycel low iq post trying to be meaningful.

 

[AnonAutist]

Typical greycel low iq post trying to be meaningful.

Thank you for your insight.

 

[Deleted member 23537]

They already have the solution and that is to turn you into a tranny

 

[Quarantined]

Law enforcement is having a hard time guestimating how numerous we are.

 

[Irredeemable]

Typical greycel low iq post trying to be meaningful.

I think he has a point. Society will nonchalantly disregard and humiliate on incels unless we make a stand.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

I’ve talked about this on my channel a few times, but shooting others is the only way your plight can be heard. Nobody knows who incel graveyard is, nobody knows who killed themself. All everyone knows is who shot others, because you need to be drastic to get anywhere as an ugly male in this society.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

It doesn't make them care about the problem. It just makes them hate us even more.

bingo. most "terrorist attacks" are false flags

 

[Maxxer]

I don't know how it will help us to gain more attention, it is and will be negative attention and nobody will give a fuck about us so why not let us be?

 

[Deleted member 21227]

I don't know how it will help us to gain more attention, it is and will be negative attention and nobody will give a fuck about us so why not let us be?

they'd hate you regardless

 

[Maxxer]

they'd hate you regardless

Can't hate you if they don't know you exist, yea they'll hate you as a virgin weirdo but not as an "incel". Etiquetes have strong power within them even if they're meaningless, society just likes to point their hate towards a weak colective.

 

[AnonAutist]

I’ve talked about this on my channel a few times, but shooting others is the only way your plight can be heard. Nobody knows who incel graveyard is, nobody knows who killed themself. All everyone knows is who shot others, because you need to be drastic to get anywhere as an ugly male in this society.

Sometimes Buddhist monks will douse themselves gasoline and light themselves on fire in public to make a point or protest injustice, or in Japan traditional religious guys will commit ritual suicide with blades (seppeku) in a public (like Mishima) to ask attention for a cause. I guess it is really necessary if you want to put an unpopular, uncomfortable issue on the map to create these bizarre public displays which force people to stop and look.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

Sometimes Buddhist monks will douse themselves gasoline and light themselves on fire in public to make a point or protest injustice, or in Japan traditional religious guys will commit ritual suicide with blades (seppeku) in a public (like Mishima) to ask attention for a cause. I guess it is really necessary if you want to put an unpopular, uncomfortable issue on the map to create these bizarre public displays which force people to stop and look.

Yes, that's why I think if an incel ropes he should make it a public affair, such as jumping off a building onto a crowded area or something.

 

[AnonAutist]

Yes, that's why I think if an incel ropes he should make it a public affair, such as jumping off a building onto a crowded area or something.

Jumping to your death in city centers where large crowds gather is often pretty hard. Bell towers and tall public buildings are hard to access and have jumper deterrence in the form of fences and nets.

 

[Koruga]

bingo. most "terrorist attacks" are false flags

Neither side has strong evidence or a "false flag" theory against incels. It is also too counterproductive to do so. Too many men are "ugly" or incels these days and these are a majority in the workforce.

 

[Deleted member 26032]

I think he has a point. Society will nonchalantly disregard and humiliate on incels unless we make a stand.

Yeah, right. Nothing says "let's address an issue" like being classified as terrorists. Maybe in 50 years things might change but the first generation is always the one to get persecuted, plowed, arrested and murdered. There is no happy outcome for us short term.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

Neither side has strong evidence or a "false flag" theory against incels. It is also too counterproductive to do so. Too many men are "ugly" or incels these days and these are a majority in the workforce.

the point is to increase censorship so the blackpill doesn't spread

 

[Deleted member 26032]

Thank you for your insight.

 

[Koruga]

Yeah, right. Nothing says "let's address an issue" like being classified as terrorists. Maybe in 50 years things might change but the first generation is always the one to get persecuted, plowed, arrested and murdered. There is no happy outcome for us short term.

it's better than doing nothing.

 

[AnonAutist]

Yeah, right. Nothing says "let's address an issue" like being classified as terrorists. Maybe in 50 years things might change but the first generation is always the one to get persecuted, plowed, arrested and murdered. There is no happy outcome for us short term.

Lots of separatist movements, leftist movements, worker movements, unions, women movements have used civil disobedience, strikes, sabotage and property damage up and until actual murder (workers and communist radicals throughout the 20th century) to advocate for their respective political causes.

You'd think liberalism would remove the need for crazy acts of desperation and would allow lowly peons to put issues on the social agenda via 'liberal democratic' ways like debate or op-eds or social media activism but the reality of liberalism is that the public discussion is carefully gatekept by bluecheck journos. MRAs have tried since the 2000s to address injustice in family courts etc. But they were demonized or ignored at every turn by the politically correct journo cartel - once divorced men start burning down the houses they were kicked out of with themselves in it and a dramatic social media manifesto like ER I can assure you people would start to care fast.

However they don't because they are not young and impulsive anymore, life has beaten them down already. Instead they suffer in silence, drink the pain away and fall asleep in front of the TV drunk off cheap alcohol and high on painkillers during normal weekdays.

 

[Irredeemable]

Lots of separatist movements, leftist movements, worker movements, unions, women movements have used civil disobedience, strikes, sabotage and property damage up and until actual murder (workers and communist radicals throughout the 20th century) to advocate for their political causes.

You'd think liberalism would remove the need for this stuff and would allow peons to put issues on the social agenda via 'liberal democratic' ways like debate or op-eds but the reality of liberalism is that the public discussion is carefully gatekept by bluecheck journos. MRAs have tried since the 2000s to address injustice in family courts etc. But they were demonized or ignored at every turn by the politically correct journo cartel.

High IQ post. When the establishment censors and bullies you, there is usually only one altERnative left.

 

[Deleted member 26032]

High IQ post. When the establishment censors and bullies you, there is usually only one altERnative left.

Money is the only thing that can promote significant change.

 

[AnonAutist]

Money is the only thing that can promote significant change.

True, and that is the way institutional elites advocate for, astroturf and achieve broad societal change that benefits them. Incels are often younger, badly integrated in life and thus thoroughly lacking in social, human, cultural and financial capital. Very little options remain if you lack in all 4 departments. Shitpoasting on silly forums and social media antics are all the realistic options for lawful outreach available to incels.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

It doesn't make them care about the problem. It just makes them hate us even more.

Tbh

 

[CumBoy]

It doesn't make them care about the problem. It just makes them hate us even more.

why do u care if normalscum like u

 

[watcher]

Bullying was a joke that people laughed at until Columbine happened.

Then it became serious, then it became a problem.
Most people are cattle who responds strongly only to fear. This is why every part of the world have huge governments. This is why Islam keeps expanding uncontrollably. The cattle responds really well to fear, not to reason.

 

[Deleted member 20195]

Of course terrorism works. The west didn't go into Syria because of the blowback they got from going into Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Bullying was a joke that people laughed at until Columbine happened.

Then it became serious, then it became a problem.
Most people are cattle who responds strongly only to fear. This is why every part of the world have huge governments. This is why Islam keeps expanding uncontrollably. The cattle responds really well to fear, not to reason.

Bullying has always been seen as a bad thing. Sure we didn’t have anti-bullying organizations until the early 2010s but people still always have opposed bullying. I’ve seen anti-bullying happen in movies from before columbine. Just look at back to the future

 

[Billowel]

This world is the realm of satan, so it's natural that evil conducts pay off here.

 

[frustratedhapa]

I disagree. If anything, it just makes people hate incels more and the government more wary of us. If people don't stop going ER, they're eventually going to start monitoring all incels online, putting us on some list, and eventually locking us up in mental hospitals just because of things we've said online. Or maybe they'll just genocide us.

 

[FinnCel]

As long as people won't listen, more collateral damage will happen

 

[Deleted member 22999]

I’ve talked about this on my channel a few times, but shooting others is the only way your plight can be heard. Nobody knows who incel graveyard is, nobody knows who killed themself. All everyone knows is who shot others, because you need to be drastic to get anywhere as an ugly male in this society.

Yep. There’s only one path to acknowledgement as an incel and it happens to be violence. We didn’t make it that way but thats how it is

 

[zekr]

When will these low IQ incels realize that violence is the root basis for any ideology, even Western civilization. In order for your ideology to get across, violence is inevitably required.

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun"
-Mao Zedong

 

[The Abyss]

If you're not being promoted for public awareness in a good light by some famous well liked person that is able to change opinions then the only option to get more social standing is violence, if you get them scared enough then they'll try to placate you to stop the extreme actions.

Look at the support & groups for alcoholics, returning ISIS fighters, drug addicts then look at the lack for homeless & those suffering from anxiety.

If you're not a pain in the ass & only a blight to yourself you'll get nothing.

 

[Deleted member 26180]

It doesn't make them care about the problem. It just makes them hate us even more.

Sadly, attention is not a solution, OP. It's true, only violence gets reactions, but all that tells us is that our plight is hopeless. It's over for incels.

 

[Emba]

Jumping to your death in city centers where large crowds gather is often pretty hard. Bell towers and tall public buildings are hard to access and have jumper deterrence in the form of fences and nets.

I see you've been to China lately.

If you want roof access you have to know who has it. Via, "UrbEx"

As long as people won't listen, more collateral damage will happen

It's a crime to destroy collateral. The central bank will be angery!


Eugenics is the only answer. And it's naturally happening by our lack of reproduction.

 

[Numb]

Gotta get it how you live tbh

 

[FinnCel]

Eugenics is the only answer. And it's naturally happening by our lack of reproduction.

Ugly women have ugly sons.
Therefore, incels will always exist

 

[Deleted member 10124]

 

[ThisLifeKillsMe]

It works for exposure. But does fuck all really so a few more people have heard the world incel. Most of them don't actually know what it means and try to redefine it anyway. Incels will have been hated by society regardless of this. It's not actually "worked" to do anything.

Being an incel means you're a low value male because only low value males can't get a gf.

No one cares about low value males.

They only use these attacks to push their agenda since people are so emotional about murder.


Lets say people who post on incel spaces go on killing sprees in every country and kill 100 per.

That number is tiny in face of deaths by accidents, illness, etc.

Its all about people having le scary fee fees and pushing an agenda. With going on a killing spree youre just doing western establishments a favor

 

[Deleted member 1983]

It doesn't make them care about the problem. It just makes them hate us even more.