Serious Sex As A Woman Is Not An Easy Task (Especially In This Modern Era) - Lets Be Honest

[BlkPillPres]

I'm always seeing users going on and on about "starfish sex", but that's something that certain men allow, if you aren't demanding better sex from the get go in a relationship (or from a prostitute you are paying) then its your fault if you get "starfish sex", but for the most part women have to exert a lot of effort and bare a lot of strain in the bedroom, I am not so biased and "anti-woman" that I'm going to pretend like women have to do nothing and no effort is involved

Women have to tolerate way more when it comes to sex than men, being on the giving end (man) means its all on you, true, but being on the receiving end is no picnic, and there's an extreme and growing laundry list of shit women are expected to do with their partners, and these acts are normalized which creates social pressure to do it because "everybody is doing it"

Like really think about it, anal is a norm for sex these days, its pretty much expected, so its EXPECTED that your GF or Wife does anal with you at some point

Imagine growing up as a female knowing full well that a hole in which you are used to pushing something soft out is DESTINED to be ravaged and have something rigid shoved in and out over and over lol, you have to prepare mentally and physically for that JFL. Imagine getting into a relationship knowing you are expected to offer up your asshole to be reamed JFL

Its a completely different dynamic, men have to exert most of the energy and effort in sex, that I agree with, but if I had to choose I'd always choose the giving end rather than the receiving end, and not just because I'm a man, even outside the context of being a man its objectively better, its less "shameful" of an act, you are the dominant

The most a man has to do in the bedroom is "go down on" her, oral sex, that's it, women are expected to blow you, after doing vaginal (taste her own insides JFL), deep throat your dick (but don't vomit), etc, and on and on it goes for 15 mins to an hour of sick degrading shit JFL, like come on lets be honest, clearly one side has the better deal here

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

Think of all the shit a woman is going to have to tolerate in sex

They are expected to do blow jobs so they have to get used to feeling like puking, learn to control their gag reflex, learn to make themselves salivate a lot to properly lube up your dick, etc

Just blow jobs alone are an annoying task when you think about it

Everything to do with sex for a man is about physical effort, if you have a strong core and a decent sized dick you are good to go

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SEX FOR A WOMAN IS ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH YOUR HOLES THAT AREN'T NORMAL FROM A BIOLOGICAL STANDPOINT

Nothing rigid is supposed to go up your ass, nothing rigid is supposed to be shoved in and out of your throat, you aren't supposed to be swallowing sperm and every guy wants his bitch to swallow (oh yeah, having to taste cum, that's another thing women are expected to do, I doubt it tastes good at all but I've heard from women that your diet changes the taste lol)

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Of course I've only considered a woman's perspective because I'm an escortcel and I can flashback to cumming on a bitches face and tits, and I remember thinking about how she felt in that position lol, being the "sexual submissive" (female role in the bedroom) is not a good position at all, I'd never want to be a woman

I'd recommend you read this thread to get where I'm coming from about the kind of "effort" women (especially prostitutes) have to put into sex

Thought Experiment For "Anti-Escortcels" Who Think Whores Are Simply "Being Paid To Do Be A Woman (Do Nothing/No Effort)" And Say "Sex Should Be Free"

First off sex has never and will never be free (check this thread out before or after reading this one, order doesn't matter, topics are specific so they can function independently)...

incels.is

Its not easy at all being a woman in the bedroom lol, think about it, do you enjoy taking shits?, I don't, it feels weird and even hurts a little, now imaging taking a bunch of fast and hard rigid shits in quick succession over a period of 15 mins to an hour. That's what anal sex is from the woman's perspective

From the man's perspective its just pure bliss of this tight spasming hole just sucking you in, I haven't done it yet but I know its going to be amazing (not to mention your pelvis is just pounding into a soft cushion)

Sex is definitely better as a man, without question, women get to have multiple orgasms as a tradeoff, its evolutions way of making them be able to tolerate all of the "punishment"

So I don't want to see this - "Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom" bullshit again, you have to lie to yourself to believe that shit

 

[PoodankMcGee]

idk how im supposed to feel sorry for them about this. They are willing to have all their holes painfully sodomized by chad, when all I want is normal vanilla sex. Anal sounds disgusting to me tbh idk how normies make such a big deal of it. If theyre willing to degrade their bodies like that for chad while disregarding their looksmatch. then they deserve to be ravaged.

I had trouble believing the normalization of anal sex so I found this article for context: https://journals.lww.com/stdjournal...x_is_more_common_than_having_a_twitter.2.aspx

More common than I expected but title makes it sound more than it is:

Lifetime male–female PAI (penile-anal intercourse) was reported by a significant minority of both women (33%) and men (38%), among whom only 21% and 30%, respectively, used a condom at last PAI.

So a pretty large minority but far from what I would consider "expected" or "destined," especially considering this is lifetime prevalence. Women have and will always have it easier in the bedroom. And whatever effort they do make is only to satisfy Chad's warped desires.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I dont support anal sex.

 

[PotatoTomato]

I dont support anal sex.

 

[BlkPillPres]

idk how im supposed to feel sorry for them about this

Thread has nothing to do with feeling sorry, it has to do with all these users I keep seeing saying that sex on a womans part requires no effort, that's clearly false just at face value of what it entails

So a pretty large minority but far from what I would consider "expected" or "destined," especially considering this is lifetime prevalence. Women have and will always have it easier in the bedroom. And whatever effort they do make is only to satisfy Chad's warped desires.

JFL if you think most people are admitting to it

 

[PoodankMcGee]

JFL if you think most people are admitting to it

If it's as normalized and accepted in the mainstream culture as you described, then whatever stigma against reporting it should be minimal

 

[BlkPillPres]

If it's as normalized and accepted in the mainstream culture as you described, then whatever stigma against reporting it should be minimal

That's not how it works, sex is always a sensitive issue, people will be open about it on social media posts and conversations with close friends so long as its in a "joking manner", but the moment its about "collecting data" now it feels "invasive", that's how it is with most things

Just like that study showing 30% of men in the US aren't having sex, its likely way higher, and that's already a sensitive issue regardless of it being "data collecting", men won't admit to that on social media or with close friends yet they got a number as high as 30%, I'd bet its really 40% or more

 

[PoodankMcGee]

That's not how it works, sex is always a sensitive issue, people will be open about it on social media posts and conversations with close friends so long as its in a "joking manner", but the moment its about "collecting data" now it feels "invasive", that's how it is with most things

Just like that study showing 30% of men in the US aren't having sex, its likely way higher, and that's already a sensitive issue regardless of it being "data collecting", men won't admit to that on social media or with close friends yet they got a number as high as 30%, I'd bet its really 40% or more

Good point. Interpreting any kind of findings about self-reported sexual experience is tricky for those reasons. I hate humans

 

[Deleted member 24256]

I dont support anal sex.

Same

 

[spongysleight]

Okay I agree with you in that sex isn't a piece of cake for women, but I also think that men have it tougher. Since sexual enjoyment is 70% on the man, the overall pressure is also on him. Learning to fuck the girl with a fluid motion and controlling your own cum is not easy and I feel requires some level of coordination and effort, more so than the woman.

One of the downsides for women is if there isn't enough foreplay to make her wet enough for sex. So the guy is wearing a condom and slaps her vag a few times (as seen in porn) and tries to insert, it would burn like hell but the guy won't feel it in the condom.

Also this is anecdotal but most couples I know don't do anal at all.

 

[Deleted member 19546]

Your perspective is definitely flawed as a male, 62% of women fantasize about being raped after all.

Of that group, 45% imagine enjoying it, while only 8% imagines it negatively, the rest has mixed feelings.

Women want and enjoy the submissive position as much as you as a male enjoy the dominant position, it’s ingrained in their feminine ego. That’s why women go after guys that are huge and muscular and make them helpless in comparison.

Then look at the media representations of sex that women enjoy, porn, books, movies, they tend feature a strong man who forces himself upon a woman. That’s simply what they enjoy. Fact. BDSM is more popular among women, Fact.

Your experience as an incel manlet with prostitutes doesn’t give true insight. Obviously they don’t find you very attractive nor very dimorphic, and you’re probably the millionth dick they took that week, they are thinking about paying their bills as this is a job for them.

Claim: “Women don’t like sex much.”

Fact Check: False, Women want to get ravaged by Chad.

 

[LastGerman]

They are expected to do blow jobs so they have to get used to feeling like puking, learn to control their gag reflex, learn to make themselves salivate a lot to properly lube up your dick, etc

But you pay for it. You even insisted on calling it a business and it it is fine if you really want to call it a business but then again, she is now exposed to that exact business - so she has to deal with the consequences of it. You pay a certain amount of money in order to get what you want.

Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom

So, why exactly do you care if people say that?

 

[BlkPillPres]

Okay I agree with you in that sex isn't a piece of cake for women, but I also think that men have it tougher

When you think about it, its not that men have it tougher, its that the required standard of "equipment" for men is higher, a guy with 9+ inches of dick doesn't really have to put in much effort at all to make a woman cum, whereas a 10/10 woman with big tits or a 5/10 woman with small tits both have to learn to control their gag reflex to give a blow job

With women sex is an act of "skill" and "tolerance", for men its just you pounding away with your pelvis JFL, its only tougher if you don't have the proper equipment, women regardless of their equipment endure the same pain, having a big ass doesn't make anal sex any more tolerable, a dick isn't supposed to be inside there, its going hurt whether you have a small or big ass

Also this is anecdotal but most couples I know don't do anal at all.

Why would couples admit to you that they do anal or not, most couples aren't that open about the kinky shit they do in the bedroom, everybody wants to seem "vanilla" to "save face", its not like your guy friend is going to admit to getting pegged in the ass either (if he did that) JFL

Based on what I've experienced, people are really just secretive about it, if you get a guy alone by himself you can coax it out of him, the GF/Wife has to be away though

 

[Robtical]

The most a man has to do in the bedroom is "go down on" her, oral sex, that's it, women are expected to blow you, after doing vaginal (taste her own insides JFL), deep throat your dick (but don't vomit), etc, and on and on it goes for 15 mins to an hour of sick degrading shit JFL, like come on lets be honest, clearly one side has the better deal here

Eating used foid pussy for 15 minutes should be considered work too.

escorts are bad examples coz they have to put up with multiple males a day, most of whom they feel no attraction to and even disgusted by their presence so of course they dont like it.

They would like it a lot more if they weren't spoiled with a buffet of chad dick in this cucked soyciety.

 

[BlkPillPres]

very bluepilled opinion coming from a supposely blackpilled person

female and male brains are different. most females love getting dominated.

escorts are bad examples coz they have to put up with multiple males a day, most of whom they feel no attraction to and even disgusted by their presence so of course they dont like it.

Dude I'm begging you learn to read for your own sake, nothing you said had anything to do with what I said, you skimmed through a lot

It has nothing to do with whether they like it or not, I even stated that:

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

If you aren't going to bother reading, don't bother replying either

Eating used foid pussy for 15 minutes should be considered work too

Its obviously way easier than choking on a dick, no "training" (gag reflex) or effort is required, and in this context the dick is "used" to, so bringing up the use of the woman makes no sense, were not talking about picking a wife, were talking about having sex, and the average person today (both male and female) has multiple sexual partners

 

[Robtical]

Its obviously way easier than choking on a dick, no "training" (gag reflex) or effort is required, and in this context the dick is "used" to, so bringing up the use of the woman makes no sense, were not talking about picking a wife, were talking about having sex, and the average person today (both male and female) has multiple sexual partners

Gay men suck dick all the time and I don't think they consider it work, foids should find it easier than them since that's what they're built to do.

 

[NormScum]

The thing is, a lot of women enjoy this stuff.

 

[PPEcel]

A lot of users here are under the impression that sex requires no skill on the part of the foid, and that's not true at all.

I'm not going to go into detail about specific sexual acts but I'm just going to point out that foids with better stamina, control, and movement provide a better experience for their clients, and that's knowledge that people aren't born with.

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

If the foid doesn’t want it, she says no and the Chad has to listen to her. If he disagrees, he is replaced by another who is more complacent

 

[SchrodingersDick]

Small price to pay for all they receive I return for sex. Having sex a couple times a week for a provider, security, house, food, etc is the Foid equivalent of a guy working a 40 hour/week job after years of studycelling. Just paint your face and take dick in all your holes. If I was a foid, that would seem like a 10000x better option than wageslaving.

 

[Rhoadscel]

I don’t give a fuck. All women belong on top of my dick.

 

[78980n]

Sort of unrelated to the point of the post, but anal is disgusting, why the fuck do people want to do that

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Whats with the IT tier posts recently? Both genders have to put effort into sex. I dont think sucking dick is any worse than licking pussy. Degenerate faggots do it all the time and i dont see them complaining.

You said men play the dominant role in sex and i agree. Where you make the mistake is trying to judge this objectively which is simply not possible. Women are programmed to feel pleasure when dominated by a guy they deem worthy. From their point of view, its sexual pleasure.

 

[Rhoadscel]

Sort of unrelated to the point of the post, but anal is disgusting, why the fuck do people want to do that

I’d fuck a Stacy's ass tbh ngl.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Just paint your face and take dick in all your holes. If I was a foid, that would seem like a 10000x better option than wageslaving.

It is. Just give access to few of your holes once a week and in return have all your needs taken care of. Much less than the effort an average escort is expected to put in.

 

[IncelKing]

I’d fuck a Stacy's ass tbh ngl.

i'd even tongue fuck it if she's clean.

 

[Rhoadscel]

i'd even tongue fuck it if she's clean.

Me too tbh.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

absolute shit thread

 

[Deleted member 22907]

i'd even tongue fuck it if she's clean.

 

[IncelKing]

Small price to pay for all they receive I return for sex. Having sex a couple times a week for a provider, security, house, food, etc is the Foid equivalent of a guy working a 40 hour/week job after years of studycelling. Just paint your face and take dick in all your holes. If I was a foid, that would seem like a 10000x better option than wageslaving.

exactly, i usually agree with everything that blkpillpres says but this thread is one of the rare instances in which i disagree.

Men need to have resources (which requires actual work) in order to get what they want: SEX
Women need to provide sex (which requires far less "work" than actual work) in order to get what they want: RESOURCES.

When analyzing the transaction taking place between a man and a woman, The work required by men and the "work" required by women aren't even remotely comparable.

If sex really was as painful as women make it out to be, women wouldn't have sexual preferences for big cocks. Instead, Women would be chasing guys with average cocks instead of guys with big cocks, because the bigger the cock the more painful the sexual experience. So it begs the question, Are women going out of their way to experience pain? that makes no sense at all, the only logical explanation is that women seek big cocks because its PLEASURABLE.

Sex being painful for women is a lie told by women to low-tier men so that women can justify taking their resources without providing them with adequate sexual satisfaction, so that when the low-tier male asks for sex she can deny it to him using the excuse of "sex is painful for wahmenz sweaty". It enables women to receive as many benefits from the beta provider as possible, while paying as little price as possible.

Meanwhile when the beta is at work she will get fucked by a Chad, yet magically the "pain" aspect of sex disappears when Chad is involved (even if his cock is bigger than the beta's, its funny how that works).

Women dont find sex to be painful (other than in extreme cases such as when the guy has an abnormally large cock and/or she is a virgin). They just dont want to be fucked by non-Chad men.


Also this:

Your perspective is definitely flawed as a male, 62% of women fantasize about being raped after all.

Of that group, 45% imagine enjoying it, while only 8% imagines it negatively, the rest has mixed feelings.

Women want and enjoy the submissive position as much as you as a male enjoy the dominant position, it’s ingrained in their feminine ego. That’s why women go after guys that are huge and muscular and make them helpless in comparison.

Then look at the media representations of sex that women enjoy, porn, books, movies, they tend feature a strong man who forces himself upon a woman. That’s simply what they enjoy. Fact. BDSM is more popular among women, Fact.

Your experience as an incel manlet with prostitutes doesn’t give true insight. Obviously they don’t find you very attractive nor very dimorphic, and you’re probably the millionth dick they took that week, they are thinking about paying their bills as this is a job for them.

Claim: “Women don’t like sex much.”

Fact Check: False, Women want to get ravaged by Chad.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Gay men suck dick all the time and I don't think they consider it work, foids should find it easier than them since that's what they're built to do.

I dont think sucking dick is any worse than licking pussy. Degenerate faggots do it all the time and i dont see them complaining.

How many gay guys have you talked to, I've known two from places I've worked, I've overheard conversations, it does require effort and they even say so, of course they enjoy doing it, just like women enjoy doing it, that has nothing to do with whether it requires effort or not. You have to be a fool to think that something that triggers your gag reflex requires no effort to overcome and do it for 15+ mins straight lol

Women are programmed to feel pleasure when dominated by a guy they deem worthy. From their point of view, its sexual pleasure.

The thing is, a lot of women enjoy this stuff.

Please if you aren't going to bother reading, don't bother replying, you'll just waste your time bringing up points that are already addressed:

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

Sort of unrelated to the point of the post, but anal is disgusting, why the fuck do people want to do that

I used to think anal is disgusting too but IDK I like the way ass looks, so I want to fuck one at some point lol

What makes anal disgusting to you though - "shit comes out of that hole", guess what, blood, "discharge" (whatever the hell that is), etc comes out of a vagina and you'd have no problem sticking your dick in there, also I've never heard of an asshole getting a yeast infection yet women getting vaginal yeast infections is pretty common, all of that stuff happens to that hole you want to stick your dick in

News flash for you, sex is an inherently disgusting act, and you are a disgusting creature for wanting to do it, you'll enjoy sex more and be less uptight about it once you accept that

i'd even tongue fuck it if she's clean.

Me too tbh.

Me three lol

exactly, i usually agree with everything that blkpillpres says but this thread is one of the rare instances in which i disagree.

There's nothing to disagree with, you guys aren't reading the thread, you are arguing against strawmen

1. I never said they aren't enjoying it
2. I never said it isn't worth it or they "deserve more" or whores should be payed more or anything like that

MY ONLY POINT IS THAT SEX REQUIRES MORE EFFORT ON A WOMAN'S PART, SHE HAS TO DO MORE PHYSICALLY STRAINING SHIT THAN A MAN HAS TO

Getting fucked in the ass and choking on dick is hard mode JFL, men just need to have stamina, a strong core and a decent sized dick, and the most extreme thing they have to do is oral sex which is like eating ice cream rather than trying to swallow the damn ice cream cone (blow jobs) lol, its obvious which of the two is more difficult (that's my only point)

 

[zekr]

Hot take: BlkPillPres fell off and is bluepilled now.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Whats with the IT tier posts recently? Both genders have to put effort into sex. I dont think sucking dick is any worse than licking pussy. Degenerate faggots do it all the time and i dont see them complaining.

You said men play the dominant role in sex and i agree. Where you make the mistake is trying to judge this objectively which is simply not possible. Women are programmed to feel pleasure when dominated by a guy they deem worthy. From their point of view, its sexual pleasure.

Iv been wondering this too.. usually his posts are a good read. But this honestly is some bluepilled garbage.

Hot take: BlkPillPres fell off and is bluepilled now.

Tbh.

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Even if this was true (which its not) who the fuck cares?

IT is probably gonna make some retarded response with the title as: "Incel finally gets something right" Because its in support of women.

 

[SirIncel]

MY ONLY POINT IS THAT SEX REQUIRES MORE EFFORT ON A WOMAN'S PART, SHE HAS TO DO MORE PHYSICALLY STRAINING SHIT THAN A MAN HAS TO

Not even that. The man has to do all the movement and needs stamina. I had an escort telling me she has had 70 year old clients with more stamina than me jfl.

 

[taloh]

Didnt know you were such a cuck.
Like i knew you were an escortcel but, this is straight up reddit tier soy.
This thread should be removed.
Its male feminist level cringe tbhngl.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Not even that. The man has to do all the movement and needs stamina. I had an escort telling me she has had 70 year old clients with more stamina than me jfl.

Damn you are lazy in bed lol

Didnt know you were such a cuck.
Like i knew you were an escortcel but, this is straight up reddit tier soy.
This thread should be removed.
Its male feminist level cringe tbhngl.

JFL as if anything you have to say on this topic matters, its already been established that you are a poorcel that hates escortcels because you can't afford it, your bias is apparent, it doesn't matter what I had said, so long as its in favor of escortcelling you'd hate it

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Even if this was true (which its not)

Are you seriously saying a dick in your throat and up your ass isn't uncomfortable and disgusting?

who the fuck cares?

Clearly you, you read the thread title and came to post anyways

Lastly dude, don't speak as if your criticisms even matter, you aren't even a worthwhile user, you are a troll with nothing better to do than to spam images of apes as part of "le funny persona"

JFL at you acting like you can now assert any kind of "legitimacy" to make criticism, learn your place and stick to your lane, if you want to joke around and not be serious, then don't try to make criticisms afterwards, all the other spamming trolls at least stick to their script

All I want to see from you is another pointless statement or joke followed by an ape image, stick to your lane

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Are you seriously saying a dick in your throat and up your ass isn't uncomfortable and disgusting?

Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Unless they are being raped they have full control of whatever goes into whatever orifice.

Lastly dude, don't speak as if your criticisms even matter, you aren't even a worthwhile user, you are a troll with nothing better to do than to spam images of apes as part of "le funny persona"

JFL at you acting like you can now assert any kind of "legitimacy" to make criticism, learn your place and stick to your lane, if you want to joke around and not be serious, then don't try to make criticisms afterwards, all the other spamming trolls at least stick to their script

All I want to see from you is another pointless statement or joke followed by an ape image, stick to your lane

Its extremely easy to get under your skin JFL. You say you're high IQ yet you fold whenever people aren't sucking your dick or blindly agreeing with you, you fold like a piece of paper. A trait typical of most humans here. Its kind of pathetic.

There are no lanes here. This is a forum for lonely users. Until i get banned im going to give my opinion on any topic i see fit, and take a neutral response despite the user. Clearly this bothers you, and i honestly don't care. You don't pay me and you aren't my boss. Eat a dick.

The Gorilla pictures aren't for you or anyone here. They aren't to be funny and they aren't a troll either. If you don't like them then block me. If not then quit your bitching.

Learn how to take criticism. If you're trying to keep up a persona of being a High IQ user you should try acting like it. Throwing childish and petty insults does nothing and doesn't encourage discussion, it just makes you look like an ass.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Its extremely easy to get under your skin JFL

JFL at this nonsense, no matter what I said you could have said this statement, how did I respond to you any differently than I respond to anyone else?

Exactly, I always respond like this to stupidity, its just only now your turn on this end of it so it "seems personal"

The Gorilla pictures aren't for you or anyone here. They aren't to be funny and they aren't a troll either

Sure bud, these random Gorilla images are being spammed for serious reasons and educational purposes

 

[Adamhastor]

anal is a norm for sex these days

Gay thread

 

[BlkPillPres]

Gay thread

Its the truth, female co-workers are talking about doing anal for the first time and shit, its normal now, some people are secretive about it, but they are doing it

 

[Justdone]

I see ya point but anything with the butthole is a strange new thing anal used to be considered taboo like licking a butthole idk how numb ya got to be to do those things. I thought they were seen as gay or something disgusting I never had a sex talk ngl.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I see ya point but anything with the butthole is a strange new thing anal used to be considered taboo like licking a butthole idk how numb ya got to be to do those things. I thought they were seen as gay or something disgusting I never had a sex talk ngl.

Finally someone not trying to read into the specific things I said and create non-existent things to argue against lol

 

[Benj-amin]

Thread has nothing to do with feeling sorry, it has to do with all these users I keep seeing saying that sex on a womans part requires no effort, that's clearly false just at face value of what it entails



JFL if you think most people are admitting to it

None of us give a shit tbh.
About what you were saying about foids, I mean
No trucel will ever experience sex with a women. So why would we care about their "problems"?

 

[BlkPillPres]

None of us give a shit tbh

About what you were saying about foids, I mean

Nah, just the few who have decided to relegate themselves to permavirgin till death mode for reasons of pride

For the current and future escortcels, this thread is of interest and what I'm saying is obvious to them

No trucel will ever experience sex with a women

You mean trucels that refuse to pay for sex, yes they will never experience sex with a woman, that's their choice

So why would we care about their "problems"?

I don't know how you can literally quote the response to your question and still ask the question:

Thread has nothing to do with feeling sorry, it has to do with all these users I keep seeing saying that sex on a womans part requires no effort, that's clearly false just at face value of what it entails

Thread has nothing to do with caring about women's problems, it has to do with addressing an obvious falsehood (that sex is "easy" for women and easier to do than what men have to)

Men clearly have the easier role in sex, its more physically taxing, but less degrading and less "punishing"

There's a difference between running a marathon and surviving waterboarding, which is basically what deep throating a dick is lol

 

[IncelKing]

There's nothing to disagree with, you guys aren't reading the thread, you are arguing against strawmen

1. I never said they aren't enjoying it
2. I never said it isn't worth it or they "deserve more" or whores should be payed more or anything like that

MY ONLY POINT IS THAT SEX REQUIRES MORE EFFORT ON A WOMAN'S PART, SHE HAS TO DO MORE PHYSICALLY STRAINING SHIT THAN A MAN HAS TO

Getting fucked in the ass and choking on dick is hard mode JFL, men just need to have stamina, a strong core and a decent sized dick, and the most extreme thing they have to do is oral sex which is like eating ice cream rather than trying to swallow the damn ice cream cone (blow jobs) lol, its obvious which of the two is more difficult (that's my only point)

fair enough, In my mind i made the false implication that you said women aren't enjoying it, after reading your thread properly this time i understand your point and now I actually agree with what you've said.

i realise that your point is: "sex is enjoyable for women BUT its not an easy task."

I was falsely conflating "not an easy task" with "being painful".

Thanks for clarifying your point and dispelling my misconception

Me three lol

 

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It sickens me that a lot of incels think OP is spittin out facts when he couldn't be farther from the truth

 

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I'm always seeing users going on and on about "starfish sex", but that's something that certain men allow, if you aren't demanding better sex from the get go in a relationship (or from a prostitute you are paying) then its your fault if you get "starfish sex", but for the most part women have to exert a lot of effort and bare a lot of strain in the bedroom, I am not so biased and "anti-woman" that I'm going to pretend like women have to do nothing and no effort is involved

Women have to tolerate way more when it comes to sex than men, being on the giving end (man) means its all on you, true, but being on the receiving end is no picnic, and there's an extreme and growing laundry list of shit women are expected to do with their partners, and these acts are normalized which creates social pressure to do it because "everybody is doing it"

Like really think about it, anal is a norm for sex these days, its pretty much expected, so its EXPECTED that your GF or Wife does anal with you at some point

Imagine growing up as a female knowing full well that a hole in which you are used to pushing something soft out is DESTINED to be ravaged and have something rigid shoved in and out over and over lol, you have to prepare mentally and physically for that JFL. Imagine getting into a relationship knowing you are expected to offer up your asshole to be reamed JFL

Its a completely different dynamic, men have to exert most of the energy and effort in sex, that I agree with, but if I had to choose I'd always choose the giving end rather than the receiving end, and not just because I'm a man, even outside the context of being a man its objectively better, its less "shameful" of an act, you are the dominant

The most a man has to do in the bedroom is "go down on" her, oral sex, that's it, women are expected to blow you, after doing vaginal (taste her own insides JFL), deep throat your dick (but don't vomit), etc, and on and on it goes for 15 mins to an hour of sick degrading shit JFL, like come on lets be honest, clearly one side has the better deal here

I'm not arguing they don't enjoy it, its not my place to say, but clearly more effort is involved in their role than the male role

Think of all the shit a woman is going to have to tolerate in sex

They are expected to do blow jobs so they have to get used to feeling like puking, learn to control their gag reflex, learn to make themselves salivate a lot to properly lube up your dick, etc

Just blow jobs alone are an annoying task when you think about it

Everything to do with sex for a man is about physical effort, if you have a strong core and a decent sized dick you are good to go

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SEX FOR A WOMAN IS ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH YOUR HOLES THAT AREN'T NORMAL FROM A BIOLOGICAL STANDPOINT

Nothing rigid is supposed to go up your ass, nothing rigid is supposed to be shoved in and out of your throat, you aren't supposed to be swallowing sperm and every guy wants his bitch to swallow (oh yeah, having to taste cum, that's another thing women are expected to do, I doubt it tastes good at all but I've heard from women that your diet changes the taste lol)

Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Of course I've only considered a woman's perspective because I'm an escortcel and I can flashback to cumming on a bitches face and tits, and I remember thinking about how she felt in that position lol, being the "sexual submissive" (female role in the bedroom) is not a good position at all, I'd never want to be a woman

I'd recommend you read this thread to get where I'm coming from about the kind of "effort" women (especially prostitutes) have to put into sex

Thought Experiment For "Anti-Escortcels" Who Think Whores Are Simply "Being Paid To Do Be A Woman (Do Nothing/No Effort)" And Say "Sex Should Be Free"

First off sex has never and will never be free (check this thread out before or after reading this one, order doesn't matter, topics are specific so they can function independently)...

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Its not easy at all being a woman in the bedroom lol, think about it, do you enjoy taking shits?, I don't, it feels weird and even hurts a little, now imaging taking a bunch of fast and hard rigid shits in quick succession over a period of 15 mins to an hour. That's what anal sex is from the woman's perspective

From the man's perspective its just pure bliss of this tight spasming hole just sucking you in, I haven't done it yet but I know its going to be amazing (not to mention your pelvis is just pounding into a soft cushion)

Sex is definitely better as a man, without question, women get to have multiple orgasms as a tradeoff, its evolutions way of making them be able to tolerate all of the "punishment"

So I don't want to see this - "Women don't have to do anything in the bedroom" bullshit again, you have to lie to yourself to believe that shit

Didn't think it was possible but you actually manage to describe how vividly grotesque the act of sex can be. The act of using all holes

Hot take: BlkPillPres fell off and is bluepilled now.

I wonder when someone is going to come out with a diss track, after all he already has an apprentice on this board.

There's a difference between running a marathon and surviving waterboarding, which is basically what deep throating a dick is lol

Women who enjoy this are coomers tbh

 

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I doubt most men are even "allowed" to have any expectations of sex from females, even their own wifes and gfs. The chads who are getting laid will expect females to do some stuff, because they could be having sex with a female who would.

Also bumping fearofeight's answer because you never responded to it.

Your perspective is definitely flawed as a male, 62% of women fantasize about being raped after all.

Of that group, 45% imagine enjoying it, while only 8% imagines it negatively, the rest has mixed feelings.

Women want and enjoy the submissive position as much as you as a male enjoy the dominant position, it’s ingrained in their feminine ego. That’s why women go after guys that are huge and muscular and make them helpless in comparison.

Then look at the media representations of sex that women enjoy, porn, books, movies, they tend feature a strong man who forces himself upon a woman. That’s simply what they enjoy. Fact. BDSM is more popular among women, Fact.

Your experience as an incel manlet with prostitutes doesn’t give true insight. Obviously they don’t find you very attractive nor very dimorphic, and you’re probably the millionth dick they took that week, they are thinking about paying their bills as this is a job for them.

Claim: “Women don’t like sex much.”

Fact Check: False, Women want to get ravaged by Chad.

 

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Lets try and be unbiased here, sex is no picnic for women, you have to tolerate a lot of uncomfortable and disgusting shit

Even if this was true (which its not) who the fuck cares?

IT is probably gonna make some retarded response with the title as: "Incel finally gets something right" Because its in support of women.

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I don’t understand the point either ngl. There’s no 2nd part. “The island nation of Kiribati has a lot of phosphorus deposits” ok. How about “the island nation of Kiribati has a lot of phosphorous deposits and as such we should all salute the Kiribati flag every morning for supplying us”

 

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Didnt know you were such a cuck.
Like i knew you were an escortcel but, this is straight up reddit tier soy.
This thread should be removed.
Its male feminist level cringe tbhngl.

Could’ve just said “Sex work is real work “ and saved himself the even bigger embarrassment of writing three text walls justifying it.

i realise that your point is: "sex is enjoyable for women BUT its not an easy task."

I was falsely conflating "not an easy task" with "being painful".

Playing videogames is not an easy task, they require effort to beat. Everything does to an extent. Eating pizza too, you have to bite and chew. That means what? Nothing. Plenty of women just lie down and take it anyway, you can’t equate the effort of an expensive prostitute you literally hired to do a specific job to that of the average woman.

Compared to the effort men make not just in sex but to lead up to it? Women pretty much just exist.

Small price to pay for all they receive I return for sex. Having sex a couple times a week for a provider, security, house, food, etc is the Foid equivalent of a guy working a 40 hour/week job after years of studycelling. Just paint your face and take dick in all your holes. If I was a foid, that would seem like a 10000x better option than wageslaving.

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