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Blackpill [STUDY] Looks define your life trajectory as soon as high school - Adolescence is the turning point of life

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tl;dr Adolescence is possibly the most decisive moment of your life. Attractiveness gives you a massive advantage in every social situation which changes you life trajectory for the best. Being unattractive has the opposite effect, it leads to stigma, bullying and horrible social experiences.

Ironically enough, being looking leads to higher rates of partying, hypersexuality and drug abuse ... but good looking people STILL come out on top despite these issues

CHAD DOES EVERYTHING WRONG ON AVERAGE BUT STILL COMES OUT ON TOP

CHAD DIVES INTO HEDONISM WITH SEX, PARTYING AND DRUGS AND STILL BEATS THE HARDWORKING UGLY GUY THANKS TO SUPERIOR SOCIAL INTERACTIONS

LOOKS DEFINE YOUR LIFE TRAJECTORY AND HIGH SCHOOL IS A CRUCIAL PERIOD


"[...] good looks may directly smooth the transition to adulthood, both through the diffuse status mechanism (the better looking will find it easier to make new friends and to find a life partner, to be successful in college, and to adjust to the workplace) and the stigma mechanism (the unattractive will experience social isolation and depression). "

"For men, the disadvantage of being unattractive was greater than the advantage of being attractive. Those who were rated as less attractive earned 9% less in hourly earnings than those with average looks; those who were rated as handsome, on the other hand, earned 5% more than those considered to be average looking. For women, the penalty for being unattractive was 5%, and the advantage of being attractive was 4%. Hamermesh and Biddle (1994) "

"Findings pointing to the same general conclusion—attractiveness, or the lack thereof, has a quantifiable impact on labor market outcomes—have been reported in more recent studies (Hamermesh, 2011; Hamermesh, Meng, & Zhang, 2002; Harper, 2000; Hosoda et al., 2003), within specific occupational categories like professor, lawyer, and military officer (Biddle & Hamermesh, 1998; Hamermesh & Parker, 2005; Mueller & Mazur, 1996), and for specific features of physical appearance like height and obesity (Han, Norton, & Stearns, 2009; Loh, 1993). "

"Moreover, although these patterns are often thought to be stronger for women, especially White women, empirical evidence demonstrates that they tend to persist across broad segments of the population (Hamermesh, 2011; Han et al., 2009; Hosoda et al., 2003). "

:waitwhat: so people automatically assume that women have it the worst, especially white women, but that that isn't actually the case. Reminds me of the
missing white woman syndrom.

"As summarized by Webster and Driskell (1983, p. 141–142), attractive people are perceived to “possess almost all types of social advantages that can be measured,” and even seemingly negative attributions, such as the attractive being rated as more likely to have extramarital affairs, suggest that “attractive people are seen as being better at doing something than unattractive ones” (see also Dion, Berscheid, & Walster, 1972; Patzer, 1985). Importantly, such expectations can translate into behavior. Snyder, Tanke, and Berscheid (1977, p. 659) have interpreted such behaviors as produced by self-fulfilling prophecies: "

:feelsStudy:
This is something that has been said many times before on this forum: attractive people receive constant positive reinforcement in every area of their life. Everything they do or say is seen as good and the support they receive only increases their self esteem.

" Individuals may have different styles of interaction for those whom they perceive to be physically attractive and for those whom they consider unattractive. These differences in interaction style may in turn elicit and nurture behaviors from the target person that are in accord with the stereotype. That is, the physically attractive may actually come to behave in a friendly, likable, sociable manner—not because they necessarily possess these dispositions, but because the behavior of others elicits and maintains behaviors taken to be manifestations of such traits. "

:feelsStudy:
People are more friendly, welcoming and receptive towards good looking people. This makes the good looking person happy and positive. No wonder. Imagine how different your outlook on life would be if everyone treated you like you were Chad. The world would seem like such a better place to you and in turn you'd be delighted to interact with people.

Expecting an ugly male to be as positive and outgoing as Chad is like expecting a dog that's been beaten everyday to be friendly with humans.

" In their experiment, young men talking on the phone with a young woman after being shown a photo depicting her as attractive were rated by independent observers to be warmer and more sociable than when the caller had been depicted as unattractive. "

:feelsStudy: Even phone calls aren't immune to lookism. No wonder women ghosted you or responded to you with one word answers when you tried texting them.

"Based on status characteristics theory, we thus expect that physically attractive people are viewed positively by others, that these positive attributions lead others to actually treat the good looking more positively, and that this positive treatment elicits more positive social behaviors from them. In a continuous cycle, this process elicits and reinforces socially positive behaviors. This sequence suggests that more attractive adults earn more money because such positive social interactions are rewarded with higher wages. "

:feelsStudy:
In short it goes like this: Chad's good looks make his interactions with people better => this makes Chad happy/positive => this makes his social interactions with people even better => Chad gets promoted. Loop this over years, decades or a lifetime and Chad has a natural edge

"The second theoretical perspective, stigma, contends that visible markers of low status or value pose risks to individuals that are rooted in the social nature of identity. In short, a stigmatized characteristic can have negative consequences for the life course because it creates major challenges to healthy identity construction and maintenance. It increases the real or perceived negative feedback from social situations that an individual must then either integrate into the sense of self or explain away. The stronger the stigma, the greater these challenges are—raising the likelihood of a spoiled identity, in which the stigmatized trait dominates social interactions to such an extent that it becomes an outsized force in identity development. This spoiled identity is the opposite of the enhanced identity that can arise from having more valued (and higher status) characteristics (Goffman, 1963; Link & Phelan, 2001). "

:feelsStudy: Unattractive men are not only discriminated against, they are also pushed hard into self doubt and excessive introspection. Borderline paranoia.
This reminds me of the Melvin Pill

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" The lower end of the attractiveness continuum (ugliness) is a source of stigma. Indeed, in his classic work on stigma, Goffman (1963, p. 4) highlighted “abominations of the body” that lead to negative labeling. In particular, unattractiveness is a discrediting stigma, in that it is generally visible to others and can set off expectations and evaluations as soon as someone enters into a social interaction (as opposed to a discreditable stigma that may be less obvious; Goffman, 1963). "

:feelsStudy: Lookism stigma is instantaneous. This completely destroys the whole "work on yourself, get interesting hobbies" because if you're too unattractive, people, especially women, don't even want to get to know you. It's like applying for a job when a company isn't hiring: they don't even wanna hear it. Nothing you could possibly say could convince them.

"Based on the stigma perspective, we expect that physically unattractive people may be viewed negatively by others, be less often selected for investment and rewards, be treated in such a way that their performance suffers, and, as a result of their poor performance, be frozen out of additional investment and rewards. This sequence suggests that less attractive adults earn less money because of discrimination, opportunities that are withheld from them, and poorer work performance resulting from either of these outcomes. "

"Ample evidence suggests that markers of status, value, and stigma can both enhance and disrupt the trajectories of young people through formal schooling (Crosnoe, 2011). [...] In short, this literature demonstrates that the general tendency for attractive people to be positively perceived by others on a variety of dimensions (adjustment, social skills) extends to children and to the academic domain, with better-looking elementary school-age children rated by others as having higher levels of academic competence (see the meta-analysis by Langlois et al., 2000). "


:feelsStudy: Lookism is already a thing when you're in elementary school. You can never escape lookism, not even when you're a CHILD.

"First, as just noted, physical attractiveness has been found to differentiate younger children on a variety of social and academic outcomes, suggesting that early experiences might put children on a trajectory into adolescence in which negative experiences related to looks accumulate. "

:feelsStudy: Confidence and self esteem are cultivated through life long positive experiences. You don't wake up one day and decide that you'll love or hate yourself. Looks directly impact the quality of your life experiences and those life experiences add up and effect (or even define) your psyche. You can't fake it or ignore it.

"Possibly, adolescent experiences may largely reflect carry-over and, therefore, be less important to study than childhood for this topic. Yet, other factors suggest that adolescent experiences reflect more than carry-over. Indeed, the pubertal transition, which usually occurs by the time that high school begins, is one of the few periods in the life course in which dramatic changes in physical appearance are possible (Bogin & Varela-Silva, 2010; Cavanagh, 2004; Martin, 1996). The potential for ugly ducklings to turn into swans, and other kinds of changes, is important theoretically because it points to breaks in the cumulative process. Similarly, the start of high school is a transition period that, for many youth, serves as a turning point in which they can reinvent themselves or break with the past (Schiller, 1999). "

" Stakes rise as developmental change, including brain and identity development, increases the social orientation of young people and the importance they place on social acceptance, and as high school curricula become more structured and competitive than in earlier stages of schooling (Crosnoe & Johnson, 2011; Schneider, 2007; Steinberg, 2008). "

:feelsStudy: This is super important: Adolescence has a stronger effect on your life trajectory than childhood because of puberty AND the fact that adolescence is far more competitive. No wonder. This is when sex becomes a thing and moggers start to truly arise.

" Second, high schools are the most proximate feeder into the institutions of postsecondary education that have become increasingly crucial to future socioeconomic attainment (Schneider, 2007).
In turn, social problems in high school that interfere with academic progress (including the potential stratifying role of attractiveness) and disrupt college matriculation can have cascading ramifications well beyond the high school years (Crosnoe, 2011; Masten & Cicchetti, 2010)."

:feelsStudy: Obviously high school has an important effect on your academical trajectory. So many NEETs choose to give up on work/education because they've been mogged and bullied too much in high school, they quit life.

" Thus, in addition to the possibility that different standards of physical attractiveness could be at work across schools, the degree to which physical attractiveness is socially rewarded and the academic implications of those social rewards are likely to differ depending on the school context. Indeed, Coleman (1961) showed that physical attractiveness was only strongly linked to cheerleading in certain schools, and Crosnoe (2011) showed that obesity was only related to academic outcomes in schools in which it was heavily stigmatized. "

:feelsStudy: I find this interesting because this shows that if people don't bully you much for a certain trait then that trait won't seem to hold you back.
So bluepillers can fuck off. They always say "ooooh being [short/bald/ugly] is all in your head! Nobody cares! You're the one holding yourself back", which is complete bullshit. You don't go out of your way to become insecure, shy and a failure for no reason.
 
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The fact that we need studies to prove these things just shows how over it is for this soyciety. This is just common sense.
 
CHAD DIVES INTO HEDONISM WITH SEX, PARTYING AND DRUGS AND STILL BEATS THE HARDWORKING UGLY GUY THANKS TO SUPERIOR SOCIAL INTERACTIONS

Yeah, hard work doesn't pay at all, chads who are not retarded and have enough mental capacity to scrape by have the optimum life experience.
 
Another Tesla IQ thread from you brocel.

Mods should pin this.
 
There are no excuses anymore, this is a fucking genocide
 
Another Tesla IQ thread from you brocel.

Mods should pin this.
Thanks abi :feelsautistic: I also did some quick last minute edits, added more apu apustaja thoughts
 
I think my Iq is too low for this thread
 
It's over
It was over the moment high school deemed our genetics unworthy. Everything after high school is just us rotting till death

Tagging some users who i think will like this post @Personalityinkwell @ionlycopenow @Grothendieck @your personality

@soymonkcel special mention for you when you come on saturday :feelshehe:
 
It was over the moment high school deemed our genetics unworthy. Everything after high school is just us rotting till death

Tagging some users who i think will like this post @Personalityinkwell @ionlycopenow @Grothendieck @your personality

@soymonkcel special mention for you when you come on saturday :feelshehe:
And there's no "winning move is not to play" cope.
We lose either way.

That's what happens when society is restructured so only traits that women whimsically like are rewarded. There is no more meritocracy or guaranteed results for hard work because it's all about image and being hyper NT.
Which isn't something that all guys can do and expecting them to do that and mocking them when they fail is psychotic.
 
And there's no "winning move is not to play" cope.
We lose either way.

That's what happens when society is restructured so only traits that women whimsically like are rewarded. There is no more meritocracy or guaranteed results for hard work because it's all about image and being hyper NT.
Which isn't something that all guys can do and expecting them to do that and mocking them when they fail is psychotic.
Oh yes the meritocracy lie. The greatest false promise of all. Every guy who's nerdy, small, frail, etc is always told that the bullies, the jocks etc will become losers after high school, that high school is where they peak.

In reality high school is a launching platform for them. Most people who had a terrible high school life end up neets, outcasts, losers. The ones who make it are usually STEM loners who stay single or betabuxx a wife. At best they get tiny moldy scraps of what their high school bullies enjoyed

And it's becoming harder every year to make a good living so the guy who had a shit high school doesn't even have the pleasure of at least living comfortably and coping with whatever he wants.

I fucking wish this world what a meritocracy. If I could get rewarded linearly for the amount of effort I put in I wouldn't spend one more second on this forum tbh.
 
I fucking wish this world what a meritocracy. If I could get rewarded linearly for the amount of effort I put in I wouldn't spend one more second on this forum tbh.
That's part of it but imo there's been constant blackpill reminders about the disparity between most men's lives and most women's lives and how women are valued more in the last few years.

I think it became worse around the 2016 US election so roughly mid 2015 onward and then ramping up in 2017.
Before that people were way more obsessed about race and all the heated debate about the declining state of males took place on smaller manosphere sites that were at the time pretty obscure and even most media hadn't "reported" on yet.

If that could stop (and it can't because it seems people that have the advantage in this kind of world want to rub it in as much as possible) along with the constant threat of war and moral panics about online misogyny then it would be more tolerable not posting here tbh

But it's gotten so bad lately.
Mistreatment of nonchad non-NT males is out in the open with people openly making eugenecist arguments about culling them.


It's fucked up.
 
tl;dr Adolescence is possibly the most decisive moment of your life. Attractiveness gives you a massive advantage in every social situation which changes you life trajectory for the best.
well, shit
 
If anything it just seriously destroys your social skills and confidence and may even make you a neurotic, overly anxious mess.

There's a reason any male talking about anxiety online is always ugly. Always.
 
High IQ blackpilled thread. If you graduate high school as a KHHV its over
 
Oh yes the meritocracy lie. The greatest false promise of all. Every guy who's nerdy, small, frail, etc is always told that the bullies, the jocks etc will become losers after high school, that high school is where they peak.

I actually believed this lie for some time, then I looked at it objectively and realized it made absolutely no sense
 
That's part of it but imo there's been constant blackpill reminders about the disparity between most men's lives and most women's lives and how women are valued more in the last few years.

I think it became worse around the 2016 US election so roughly mid 2015 onward and then ramping up in 2017.
Before that people were way more obsessed about race and all the heated debate about the declining state of males took place on smaller manosphere sites that were at the time pretty obscure and even most media hadn't "reported" on yet.

If that could stop (and it can't because it seems people that have the advantage in this kind of world want to rub it in as much as possible) along with the constant threat of war and moral panics about online misogyny then it would be more tolerable not posting here tbh

But it's gotten so bad lately.
Mistreatment of nonchad non-NT males is out in the open with people openly making eugenecist arguments about culling them.


It's fucked up.
The male to female ratio is underrated here. I don't see it talked about enough. It directly amplifies hypergamy. Almost every place that has bad hypergamy has a large male to female ratio. And this ratio is especially worse among the key demographic like the 18-35 range.

In the west immigration has made things even worse since the majority of people coming in are males.

And of course the moment men start to import wives the government steps in jfl. Women truly can't stand female migration. Suddenly they become very right wing/anti globalist, how convenient.


That's part of it but imo there's been constant blackpill reminders about the disparity between most men's lives and most women's lives and how women are valued more in the last few years.
At every turn, in every aspect of life we're reminded all the time that female problems are a joke, it's so insignificant.

The worst one is dating though. Every time a foid complains about being lonely she just means chad doesn't commit. And every single time the foid gets bombarded with offers. Like the female forever alone sub

I just said that so I could have the first reply ngl
:feelsBox:

High IQ blackpilled thread. If you graduate high school as a KHHV its over
The only people who turn things around later are late bloomer who actually improve their looks significantly in college thanks to late genetics ... and maybe some normies who were too high inhib but had passable looks

I actually believed this lie for some time, then I looked at it objectively and realized it made absolutely no sense
The lie is extremely enticing. We really want to believe that it's true. It sounds like karmic justice. Sadly it's easier to trick people than it is to convince them that they've been tricked
 
giga IQ Thread

water is indeed wet

jokes aside , good work , should be required reading
 
IT won’t touch this
 
The male to female ratio is underrated here. I don't see it talked about enough. It directly amplifies hypergamy. Almost every place that has bad hypergamy has a large male to female ratio. And this ratio is especially worse among the key demographic like the 18-35 range.

In the west immigration has made things even worse since the majority of people coming in are males.
It's a short term plan imo by economic "elites" to get enough young workers to pay into social safety nets and keep up short term economic gains because birth rates in western countries are really low.

And of course the moment men start to import wives the government steps in jfl. Women truly can't stand female migration. Suddenly they become very right wing/anti globalist, how convenient.

Yeah the government works in favor of women especially with redistributing income from single males to single mothers and their children and though initiatives to monitor and censor "hateful" content just so women don't feel insecure about what men might type about them online.
It might sound like conservative paranoia but it's true.
The government has played a large role in propping up women through affirmative action, mandatory diversity quotas and the like while the private sector and big corporations pick up the rest of the slack.

The government also benefits from uneven family court decisions along with the child support and alimony laws, court sentencing procedures favoring longer sentences for men and criminalizing aspects of male behavior more easily than female misbehavior to keep prison rates high, national security apparatus functioning on "domestic" "lone wolfs" and trying to justify budgets to spy on and control the common male citizen.

At every turn, in every aspect of life we're reminded all the time that female problems are a joke, it's so insignificant.

The worst one is dating though. Every time a foid complains about being lonely she just means chad doesn't commit. And every single time the foid gets bombarded with offers. Like the female forever alone sub
Imo it's unpopular to say here but if it was just dating I could live with that.
But it's everything and how women expect unattractive men they cast out to finance their lifestyles and the government enforcing outdated provider and protector roles like military draft and bystander/good samaritan laws when women long ago disregarded men.
That's the infuriating part I can't live with and one of the reasons I feel the need to post.


:feelsBox:


The only people who turn things around later are late bloomer who actually improve their looks significantly in college thanks to late genetics ... and maybe some normies who were too high inhib but had passable looks
Bloomers are the propaganda feel good cute animal stories the news airs to keep people from realizing how shitty things currently are.
Bloomers are actually few and more between.
Society makes a living joke out of men that fall through the cracks and the false pity it sometimes extends to men on the brink of failure disgusts me.

The lie is extremely enticing. We really want to believe that it's true. It sounds like karmic justice. Sadly it's easier to trick people than it is to convince them that they've been tricked
Unfortunately no one tells you this. You have to figure it out for yourself now that the old life script has been torn apart by women wanting to have their cake and eat it too and keeping unattractive men in default provider and protector roles while not offering anything in exchange like they at least did in the past.
 
It's a short term plan imo by economic "elites" to get enough young workers to pay into social safety nets and keep up short term economic gains because birth rates in western countries are really low.
They also want male immigrants because women don't pay taxes

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Yeah the government works in favor of women especially with redistributing income from single males to single mothers and their children and though initiatives to monitor and censor "hateful" content just so women don't feel insecure about what men might type about them online.
It might sound like conservative paranoia but it's true.
The government has played a large role in propping up women through affirmative action, mandatory diversity quotas and the like while the private sector and big corporations pick up the rest of the slack.
Reminds me of pic below. The government is more than happy to get more power and these idiots just hand in the power without realizing that the government doesn't actually care about their issues, it just wants more power, they're useful idiots.

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Imo it's unpopular to say here but if it was just dating I could live with that.
But it's everything and how women expect unattractive men they cast out to finance their lifestyles and the government enforcing outdated provider and protector roles like military draft and bystander/good samaritan laws when women long ago disregarded men.
That's the infuriating part I can't live with and one of the reasons I feel the need to post.

I know exactly what you mean. I don't know if I could live with that but it would be immensely easier to cope with our lives at least.

The most insidious part of the blackpill is that it isn't just limited to dating and sex (despite what our detractors like to say), it permeates through every aspect of life. Economical, social, leisure/hobbies. Even simple interactions with strangers like interacting with a cashier can become brutal when you're unattractive.

Being ugly and an outcast is a living nightmare on all fronts, and even when you try to avoid the "game" by LDARin/NEETmaxxing etc you're still losing in a way. Some people like to think they're dodging the consequences of the blackpill by isolating themselves from the world but really they've still lost in a way :feelsbadman:

Bloomers are the propaganda feel good cute animal stories the news airs to keep people from realizing how shitty things currently are.
Bloomers are actually few and more between.
Society makes a living joke out of men that fall through the cracks and the false pity it sometimes extends to men on the brink of failure disgusts me.

Bloomers are the exception to the rule. They exist but they don't discredit the rule. They're not very significant statistically.

But every fucking time there's such a type of exception men always assume that they'll be the lucky ones. Every fucking time. Everyone thinks that they'll win the lottery and go against in odds

Unfortunately no one tells you this. You have to figure it out for yourself now that the old life script has been torn apart by women wanting to have their cake and eat it too and keeping unattractive men in default provider and protector roles while not offering anything in exchange like they at least did in the past.

That's one of the most brutal blackpills and it's something that normies don't get: the boomer life is over. It's become very hard to get a loyal wife through betabuxxing. You can't be the provider like the men in the 50s and 60s. Not only is the economy shit but women have far more power and the culture has changed since then, women have 0 interest in settling for a provider. Well that is until they become old af or single mothers.

I honestly think I could cope with a looksmatched wife who was loyal to me, even if she just saw me as a provider. So long as I got some intimacy and at least some semblance of affection I think I'd have no problem going to work every day. I'd have something to look forward to when going home
 
Best thread maker on this forum ngl @Gymcelled :feelsokman:
 
plato's cave iq thread, pin worthy
 
It was over the moment high school deemed our genetics unworthy. Everything after high school is just us rotting till death

Tagging some users who i think will like this post @Personalityinkwell @ionlycopenow @Grothendieck @your personality

@soymonkcel special mention for you when you come on saturday :feelshehe:
Here I am :feelstrash:
Yet another d e l u x e quality thread from you :feelshmm:
Expecting an ugly male to be as positive and outgoing as Chad is like expecting a dog that's been beaten everyday to be friendly with humans.

:feelsStudy: Unattractive men are not only discriminated against, they are also pushed hard into self doubt and excessive introspection. Borderline paranoia.
My mind in two sentences.
And there's no "winning move is not to play" cope.
We lose either way.

That's what happens when society is restructured so only traits that women whimsically like are rewarded. There is no more meritocracy or guaranteed results for hard work because it's all about image and being hyper NT.
Which isn't something that all guys can do and expecting them to do that and mocking them when they fail is psychotic.
As I always say, I'm looking into the future... Genetic manipulation, bone plate reopening, longevity, robowaifus, fully immersive VR, neuralink (I'm suspicious of this one, but we could get transferred to a Chad body at a given time). I don't expect shit from the present tbh. I hope to cope.
If I could get rewarded linearly for the amount of effort I put in I wouldn't spend one more second on this forum tbh.
And this is why I'm a science teacher in Spain: you study, do the exam, and get accepted according to your grades and merits; they don't interview you to hire you in the public system, thus you avoid being judged by looks. Still, I think my cognitive performance would be better If I had a healthy sexual/affective life... but better than nothing, I guess.
 
The oldercels from 2017-2018 already know this stuff, good job posting it again though
 
Every second of high school was torture for me. All due to being small and ugly.

Thank god those times ended.
 
Here I am :feelstrash:
Yet another d e l u x e quality thread from you :feelshmm:



My mind in two sentences.

As I always say, I'm looking into the future... Genetic manipulation, bone plate reopening, longevity, robowaifus, fully immersive VR, neuralink (I'm suspicious of this one, but we could get transferred to a Chad body at a given time). I don't expect shit from the present tbh. I hope to cope.

And this is why I'm a science teacher in Spain: you study, do the exam, and get accepted according to your grades and merits; they don't interview you to hire you in the public system, thus you avoid being judged by looks. Still, I think my cognitive performance would be better If I had a healthy sexual/affective life... but better than nothing, I guess.

Thanks bro and yes I had that very same video in mind jfl

That teacher application sounds giga based ... sounds like the closest thing to a meritocracy i've ever heard of in the first world.
I fucking hate how lookist and nepotism prone the job market is overall

The oldercels from 2017-2018 already know this stuff, good job posting it again though
Yes none of what's in this study is really groundbreaking or new but what i liked about it is how dense it was with blackpills and how well it was all laid out. A comprehensible summary
 
@Gymcelled Man you are on a good streak of pure suicideropefuel tier threads.
 

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