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Serious The Average gf costs 168$ a month, why not just buy a 150$ hooker at that point?

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For all of you who claim escortcelling is cucked, how is it any worse from the majority of normies paying $168 a month for a foid? You could use that money and get yourself 30 minutes to an hour with a hooker. You could even split that money and get 30 minutes with two hookers. So how is an escortcel who sees 1 to 2 escorts a month any different from your average normie? One is just more straight forward and logical that’s it. Why waste your money on a whore just to get cheated on and thrown in the trash, it makes no sense.

 
You can't put a price on companionship.
 
You can't put a price on companionship.
You can't put a price on genuine companionship.*

You can buy companionship for sure, but you can't buy a real one
 
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Because a substantial number of whorecelling experiences I've had, I would not repeat for free.
 
For all of you who claim escortcelling is cucked, how is it any worse from the majority of normies paying $168 a month for a foid? You could use that money and get yourself 30 minutes to an hour with a hooker. You could even split that money and get 30 minutes with two hookers. So how is an escortcel who sees 1 to 2 escorts a month any different from your average normie? One is just more straight forward and logical that’s it. Why waste your money on a whore just to get cheated on and thrown in the trash, it makes no sense.

A normie gets more sex than 1h/month.
It's still a shitty deal, but not as shitty as the hooker-option.
 
A normie gets more sex than 1h/month.
It's still a shitty deal, but not as shitty as the hooker-option.
And in Burgerland, whores easily charge $250 per "hour." I put the hour in quotation marks because usually they kick you out after 20 minutes or so. Whorecelling is definitely vastly inferior to a relationship in terms of value.
 
chad spends -168$ , the foids spend the money on him
 
A normie gets more sex than 1h/month.
It's still a shitty deal, but not as shitty as the hooker-option.
Logically though it’s not much different, especially if we keep track of normie relationships when they’re going downhill meaning less sex. For all the ups and downs normies go through hookers are the most stable route. As for marriage a wife costs over $180 a month, at which point you might as well get three hookers a month.
 
Hell no, I'll never pay a western prostitute in my life, they're overpaid lazy cunts charging hundreds an hour. Don't don't be impulsive, save up enough money, fly out to SEA and fuck hookers there for as cheap as 30$ for the entire day. If you purchased a western whore you're making a stupid investment (especially if you're poor), make smart decisions and have patience.
You can't put a price on companionship.
:feelskek:
Tell me, do you believe sex is a human right?
 
Hell no, I'll never pay a western prostitute in my life, they're overpaid lazy cunts charging hundreds an hour. Don't don't be impulsive, save up enough money, fly out to SEA and fuck hookers there for as cheap as 30$ for the entire day. If you purchased a western whore you're making a stupid investment, make smart decisions and have patience.

:feelskek:
Tell me, do you believe sex is a human right?
Not really. Do you, oh DARK ENLIGHTENMENT?
 
chad spends -168$ , the foids spend the money on him
Well none of us are Chad, foids aren’t going to fuck us at all, but if you want to go on the journey for that unicorn, go ahead, be my guest. I’ll be watching you while I’m fucking 7/10s and up
 
Hell no, I'll never pay a western prostitute in my life, they're overpaid lazy cunts charging hundreds an hour. Don't don't be impulsive, save up enough money, fly out to SEA and fuck hookers there for as cheap as 30$ for the entire day. If you purchased a western whore you're making a stupid investment (especially if you're poor), make smart decisions and have patience.

:feelskek:
Tell me, do you believe sex is a human right?
I don’t have that type of time, I’m going to be a militarycel in a few months, I’ll look more into Thailand though
 
Hell no, I'll never pay a western prostitute in my life, they're overpaid lazy cunts charging hundreds an hour. Don't don't be impulsive, save up enough money, fly out to SEA and fuck hookers there for as cheap as 30$ for the entire day. If you purchased a western whore you're making a stupid investment (especially if you're poor), make smart decisions and have patience.

:feelskek:
Tell me, do you believe sex is a human right?
The problem is that when you take into account the cost of a trans-atlantic/trans-Pacific flight, lodging, food, and miscellaneous travel expenses, you pretty much spend the same amount of money as you would if you whorecelled in the West.
 
Yes, why don't you just do that OP?...

I think the answer to your question is pretty obvious, even if you cut out emotional aspect (pretty important) from it all, you will get less sex per dollar with the hooker than you would with a gf.
 
The problem is that when you take into account the cost of a trans-atlantic/trans-Pacific flight, lodging, food, and miscellaneous travel expenses, you pretty much spend the same amount of money as you would if you whorecelled in the West.
Yeah that's the thing, it's also only something you can do very occasionally.
 
The problem is that when you take into account the cost of a trans-atlantic/trans-Pacific flight, lodging, food, and miscellaneous travel expenses, you pretty much spend the same amount of money as you would if you whorecelled in the West.
This is true too, this guy made a solid video explaining going to Tijuana to get laid by 10/10s and he explains how it all adds up

View: https://youtu.be/uV1a8HUcono
 
You can't put a price on companionship.

You can't put a price on genuine companionship.*

You can buy companionship for sure, but you can't buy a real one

A normie gets more sex than 1h/month.
It's still a shitty deal, but not as shitty as the hooker-option.

Whilst I agree with the above statements. As an Incel we wouldn't get Jack shit in a civvy relationship.

Therefore I'm inclined to agree with the below.

Logically though it’s not much different, especially if we keep track of normie relationships when they’re going downhill meaning less sex. For all the ups and downs normies go through hookers are the most stable route. As for marriage a wife costs over $180 a month, at which point you might as well get three hookers a month.

Ps Normies sex sessions are roughly between 5-20 minutes a session. Once a week. Perhaps. So in total max 1.5 hours.
 
Not really. Do you, oh DARK ENLIGHTENMENT?
What do you by not really? Answer the question and stop being vague.
The problem is that when you take into account the cost of a trans-atlantic/trans-Pacific flight, lodging, food, and miscellaneous travel expenses, you pretty much spend the same amount of money as you would if you whorecelled in the West.
Not really, you're only thinking about the numbers you aren't taking into account what you gain from it. The point isn't that it is cheaper rather it is smarter. Tell what's so interesting about waking up in the same boring flat, hopping on a train with the same boring people, arriving at the flat of some lazy overpaid bitchy cunt charging you hundreds of dollars (who shopped her pictures and doesn't even make the effort to look pretty) and at the end of the day worrying about stuff and having to work the next day.

Now imagine this if you will. You arrive to an exotic country, see exotic people, settle into a hotel overlooking the beautiful exotic scenery, have fun looking at different exotic sights, trying out tasty exotic food, not having to worry about stuff, not having to go to work the next day and at the end of the day you travel to the red light district and pick out a whore you like to bust a nut inside for cheap prices.

It's incomparable.
 
168 a month or 150 a night makes the 168 a month sounds much cheaper.
Both sounds terrible though.
 
What do you by not really? Answer the question and stop being vague.

Not really, you're only thinking about the numbers you aren't taking into account what you gain from it. The point isn't that it is cheaper rather it is smarter. Tell what's so interesting about waking up in the same boring flat, hopping on a train with the same boring people, arriving at the flat of some lazy overpaid bitchy cunt charging you hundreds of dollars (who shopped her pictures and doesn't even make the effort to look pretty) and at the end of the day worrying about stuff and having to work the next day.

Now imagine this if you will. You arrive to an exotic country, see exotic people, settle into a hotel overlooking the beautiful exotic scenery, have fun looking at different exotic sights, trying out tasty exotic food, not having to worry about stuff, not having to go to work the next day and at the end of the day you travel to the red light district and pick out a whore you like to bust a nut inside for cheap prices.

It's incomparable.
I don't think having sex is a universal human right. That would extend it to the disabled, criminal, mentally impaired, or other elements I don't think need/should have access to sex. There's no way to enforce it, and I see no ethical reason to state sex ought to be a universal human right. That being said, I realize that for many being deprived of sex has serious psychological ramifications that shouldn't be ignored. So while not a *right* it is something important for most every human.
tl;dr not really
Why does "companionship" need to come from a woman you're in a sexual relationship with?
Ideally, a partner would combine the roles of a fulfilling sexual and emotional relationship. One without the other isn't, to my mind, an ideal companion.
 
For all of you who claim escortcelling is cucked, how is it any worse from the majority of normies paying $168 a month for a foid?
it's not worse, just a minor version of the same thing. for a normal gf you pay a ton of time, stress and on top of that the money. it's far more expensive than an escort.
 
I don't think having sex is a universal human right. That would extend it to the disabled, criminal, mentally impaired, or other elements I don't think need/should have access to sex. There's no way to enforce it, and I see no ethical reason to state sex ought to be a universal human right. That being said, I realize that for many being deprived of sex has serious psychological ramifications that shouldn't be ignored. So while not a *right* it is something important for most every human.
tl;dr not really

Ideally, a partner would combine the roles of a fulfilling sexual and emotional relationship. One without the other isn't, to my mind, an ideal companion.
Okay good, I was just trying to poke holes and see an opening. Anyways back to what you said.
You can't put a price on *genuine* companionship.
I don't understand why incels speak like women. Only women care about companionship, a man acting on his interests doesn't care about companionship because men will fuck as many women as he can get his hands on. When you speak of companionship, you limit your sexuality. It never made sense to me.
 
If you get beyond 2+ fucks with gf, you get more value.
 
You can't put a price on companionship.
do you think an Incel can find a real companion in a foid?
in my opinion, Incels can only be walking ATMs for foids. true companionship is impossible
 
Cope. Chads don't pay for sex. That notion is completely alien to them.

Meanwhile foids are dropping big money on clothes, shoes, makeup, etc... To attract chads.

Consider yourself lucky enough to betabuxx for some female companionship. Being allowed to betabuxx is the female telling YOU that you're lucky to be with her.

After you fuck her and leave (as you should considering how degenerate the average American foid is), that is YOUR way of saying to her that you broke even.
 
do you think an Incel can find a real companion in a foid?
in my opinion, Incels can only be walking ATMs for foids. true companionship is impossible
Okay good, I was just trying to poke holes and see an opening. Anyways back to what you said.

I don't understand why incels speak like women. Only women care about companionship, a man acting on his interests doesn't care about companionship because men will fuck as many women as he can get his hands on. When you speak of companionship, you limit your sexuality. It never made sense to me.
I don't know if we even *can* find companionship, but it doesn't stop me from wishing I could have an emotionally and psychologically fulfilling relationship with a partner.
I think, if anything, wanting genuine companionship is a masculine trait, considering that women are too psychologically shallow to feel the need for a partner beyond getting fucked and having shit bought for them. Men, being more psychogically developed, seem to have a desire to have our deeper needs met.
 
A normie gets more sex than 1h/month.
It's still a shitty deal, but not as shitty as the hooker-option.

That's true but in addition to the money, keeping a gf isn't easy. You have to spend countless hours and effort making sure you text/call/facetime her every day, make sure she stays entertained, making sure you stay interesting to her, making sure you keep your physique in shape by going to the gym and grooming, making sure you satisfy her in bed, keeping an eye out for any other man trying to hit on her... and loads more. With an escort you don't have to worry about any of that.
 
Cope. Chads don't pay for sex. That notion is completely alien to them.
And? We’re not Chad and never will be.
Consider yourself lucky enough to betabuxx for some female companionship. Being allowed to betabuxx is the female telling YOU that you're lucky to be with her.
Exactly so why would I do that? It makes 0 sense. Paying for a hooker is cheaper than being a betabux all your life and being stressed out.
That's true but in addition to the money, keeping a gf isn't easy. You have to spend countless hours and effort making sure you text/call/facetime her every day, make sure she stays entertained, making sure you stay interesting to her, making sure you keep your physique in shape by going to the gym and grooming, making sure you satisfy her in bed, keeping an eye out for any other man trying to hit on her... and loads more. With an escort you don't have to worry about any of that.
Exactly you can do all that shit with a foid and she could still be cheating on you behind your back. Why go through the pain?
 
I don't know if we even *can* find companionship, but it doesn't stop me from wishing I could have an emotionally and psychologically fulfilling relationship with a partner.
I think, if anything, wanting genuine companionship is a masculine trait, considering that women are too psychologically shallow to feel the need for a partner beyond getting fucked and having shit bought for them. Men, being more psychogically developed, seem to have a desire to have our deeper needs met.
Muh emotional and psychological fulfillment. Do you even hear yourself? You literally speak like a women. I can't blame you though, society has done a good job at spooking men, programming them with useless, basless, abstract values.

Women are the ones who care about companionship because they've been biologically designed to do so. Women are weak and when they're pregnant they're especially fragile. This biological constraint makes them seek out a partner that can protect and provide for her and her offspring. A man however isn't limited by such biological constraints, it's why men produce significantly more sperm than women can produce eggs, men are biologically engineered to fuck as many women as possible. A man doesn't care for companionship, in fact it is against a man's interests to seek out companionship because it exhausts his resources and limits his sexuality, women are literally parasites that stunt a man.
 
That's true but in addition to the money, keeping a gf isn't easy. You have to spend countless hours and effort making sure you text/call/facetime her every day, make sure she stays entertained, making sure you stay interesting to her, making sure you keep your physique in shape by going to the gym and grooming, making sure you satisfy her in bed, keeping an eye out for any other man trying to hit on her... and loads more. With an escort you don't have to worry about any of that.
It's still better than being lonely tbh.
 
Muh emotional and psychological fulfillment. Do you even hear yourself? You literally speak like a women. I can't blame you though, society has done a good job at spooking men, programming them with useless, basless, abstract values.

Women are the ones who care about companionship because they've been biologically designed to do so. Women are weak and when they're pregnant they're especially fragile. This biological constraint makes them seek out a partner that can protect and provide for her and her offspring. A man however isn't limited by such biological constraints, it's why men produce significantly more sperm than women can produce eggs, men are biologically engineered to fuck as many women as possible. A man doesn't care for companionship, in fact it is against a man's interests to seek out companionship because it exhausts his resources and limits his sexuality, women are literally parasites that stunt a man.
Wow. Sorry I want a balanced psyche and the fulfillment of my long-term needs. I fail to see how seeking individuation as a rational and emotional individual is the result of femininity or psychological programming. I also seek fulfillment in other arenas: education, finance, and expression, but those are still more or less in my control.
I'm not an animal, and I feel desires of a higher order than the rote impulse to "spread my seed". I want understanding, sympathy, and an environment where I'm respected for the qualities I cultivate. These desires are part of what I believe to separate us from animals.
Saying that men don't seek companionship is reductive to those of us who are here and feel our isolation is as great of a burden to us as our virginity. And if men didn't seek companionship, and only want sex, why are there so many escortcels?
I see where you're coming from, and maybe *you* don't feel any desire for emotive reciprocity, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us shouldn't.
I'm human, and not a biological pain receptor. I'm incel, but I have thoughts, interests, activities, and pleasures that define me as an individual. We may not share these same goals, but you are ignorant to deride mine as feminine or inferior.
 
@Virginp0wers
 
Wow. Sorry I want a balanced psyche and the fulfillment of my long-term needs. I fail to see how seeking individuation as a rational and emotional individual is the result of femininity or psychological programming. I also seek fulfillment in other arenas: education, finance, and expression, but those are still more or less in my control.
Rational? How in anyway is your desire for an outcome which goes against your interests in any way rational? I assume you've been around the incelsphere and the greater manosphere, correct? So you must have come across the divorce rate statistics at least once. Someone rational seeing such statistics and disadvantages would have arrived at the logical conclusion that such an outcome is simply undesirable. You see that's the thing with guys like you, you have this idealist rose tinted view of a relationship. You don't even take into account all the downsides which come from having a relationship (which can damage you psychologically). It would be like looking at the lottery and believing you'll be rich, not taking into account your odds. You've got to be a realist pal, accept your circumstances and deal with it appropriately. You're undesirable physically, I assume you know this right? So instead of saying "alright if women don't like me physically, I'll pay to fulfill my sexual needs so I don't starve", you instead say "women don't like me physically, I don't like the idea of paying for sex because genuine companionship is priceless, so I'm just gonna starve myself and wish for something that is out of my hands". This is priceless coming from someone who stated himself that "being deprived of sex has serious psychological ramifications that shouldn't be ignored". For someone who believes such an issue shouldn't be ignored, you're alright with ignoring it yourself.
I'm not an animal, and I feel desires of a higher order than the rote impulse to "spread my seed".
You know what's also "of a higher order"? Believing in a God of lightning, God of death, God of war etc. Having a "higher order" doesn't make you superior nor complex, it's just an illusion of complexity. Realize that unless these abstract values benefit you, they're ultimately meaningless.
I want understanding, sympathy, and an environment where I'm respected for the qualities I cultivate. These desires are part of what I believe to separate us from animals.
Understanding, sympathy, empathy, morals, all abstracts, all worthless, all baseless, all ultimately meaningless. You give too much credence to such meaningless words, at least abstracts such as power are useful.
I see where you're coming from, and maybe *you* don't feel any desire for emotive reciprocity, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us shouldn't.
Nope I don't. I've overcame society and became my own creature, I own myself. I use abstracts as tools for my benefit, I don't let them possess me like they've done to most of you. It's why my life doesn't revolve around such useless abstracts like morals, love and empathy, rather actual useful abstracts such as power.
We may not share these same goals, but you are ignorant to deride mine as feminine or inferior
It is though, you share the same biological desire a women has. How's that not feminine? Just say it is no need for you to distance yourself from your femininity. It's like if a gay man who's convinced himself that he likes to suck dick says it's not feminine. What? Is sucking dick not feminine?
 
why not just save your money and never spend a cent on a foid.

stop advocating escorts , biggest cope
 
Only $168?

Does that include opportunity costs? Guess not.
 
A normie gets more sex than 1h/month.
It's still a shitty deal, but not as shitty as the hooker-option.
Most hope to get this deal but end up posting on "deadbedroom" forums about still footing the bill and not getting laid in months.
 
stupid thread
170ish for a month vs 150 an hour

A hooker is a bad investment. For that low of a price (in 90% of areas) you aren't getting real sex (PIV), no kissing, no un-protected oral, no snuggling, no massages, no deep talking, no anal. I could go on and on. It's literally more like 200/hr for condom sex for 5 minutes then you leave. Oh and most importantly you gotta keep all that shit private because nobody wants to know you fuck hookers you sad piece of shit.

Vs a real relationship where you, at minimum, talk to each others parents and your parents know about your gf and are proud of you and a lot of stress is relieved off of you and you do better as a whole in life because you are winning in life if you have a gf.
 
seems like a low number when you factor in meals the man has to pay for, going to the theater/zoo/whatever, gas money for excursions, gifts, etc.
 
Don't underestimate what company gives you, a hooker is a one time thing you pop 150 on while a gf is like an investment, roll out 150 in gifts or whatever in return for the company over the period of the month. both are pay to win anyways so who cares, and thats if ur a 7+, no luck for any of us
 
So how is an escortcel who sees 1 to 2 escorts a month any different from your average normie?
Arguably the normie fucks his gf much more often than once or twice a month
 
I could go on and on. It's literally more like 200/hr for condom sex for 5 minutes then you leave.
Not around here, you have to look for the cheaper hookers, I’ve seen 80 for 30 minutes.
you aren't getting real sex (PIV), no kissing, no un-protected oral, no snuggling, no massages, no deep talking, no anal. I could go on and on.
if you’re not getting any of that why didn’t you ask the hooker to do that before you paid? I personally don’t want to cuddle a hooker but go ahead
Oh and most importantly you gotta keep all that shit private because nobody wants to know you fuck hookers you sad piece of shit.
Don’t care, I told my friends I fuck hookers right after I did it. Keep coping ya self conscious sap
Vs a real relationship where you, at minimum, talk to each others parents and your parents know about your gf and are proud of you and a lot of stress is relieved off of you and you do better as a whole in life because you are winning in life if you have a gf.
This is cope. Literally none of us are ever getting this. I made this thread to point out some of us could cope with inceldom by hookers and won’t be spending as much as normies if they buy a hooker or two a month.

Don’t get mad at me because you went ahead and bought a $200 hooker for five minutes and didnt get to cuddle her
 
You can also get a one way ticket to latin america and fuck cheap crack whores for 3 dollars.
You have to get used to living in a shithole though.
 
For all of you who claim escortcelling is cucked, how is it any worse from the majority of normies paying $168 a month for a foid? You could use that money and get yourself 30 minutes to an hour with a hooker. You could even split that money and get 30 minutes with two hookers. So how is an escortcel who sees 1 to 2 escorts a month any different from your average normie? One is just more straight forward and logical that’s it. Why waste your money on a whore just to get cheated on and thrown in the trash, it makes no sense.

Not really an accurate comparison because you're not only having sex for 30 minutes a month with a foid.
Based on that statistic as long as you're having sex at least twice it's more efficient than a hooker (and I'd bet the average couple is having sex multiple times a week)
 

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